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Wonder why Ford isn't running anything like this in the states?
"Patience. Patience."
I guess the thought is to get people to know Lincoln first.
I hate letter names though.
Mark
At least they're keeping the two, Zephyr and MKZ, separated by not displaying any of the latter while the former are still around. I can't imagine the confusion that would generate.
I know Lincoln really wanted to get into promoting the Lincoln brand in the spirit of BMW, Lexus, etc, who all use alphanumerics, but one key point is that your alphemumerics have to mean something. In BMW land, the higher the number, the more upscale the vehicle is. Lincoln's naming scheme means nothing, so it's confusing.
This is a bit off topic, but am I the only one who thinks Lincoln blew it big time with the front end of the MKX? There's something "old Chrysler minivan" going on there. I think the Edge is far better looking. It's too bad too; otherwise I'd be in the market for the Lincoln.
And did you see sales stickers on them?
He said he still does not have any info on them but will keep me informed. Maybe I will call him back and ask him if it shows up with a window sticker and fuel etc.
I doubt it though. I think he mentioned it was some kind of touring car and the only reason they're even getting it is because of their Grand opening of their new Lincoln Mercury and Mazda showroom.
The Dealer is Towne in Orchard Park, NY. on Southwestern Blvd. for anyone local.
By the way, I want Bluetooth (a must) and would really like to have XM Nav-Traffic. However, had Ford offered Bluetooth, I would almost surely have done without the Nav-Traffic and just ordered the Edge with the Navation and sound system option. It is difficult to understand why the omitted the Bluetooth option, but it might turn out to be fun installing my own navigation and sound system. The lat time I installaed a sound system in one of my cars was 1983.
Thoughts??
If they're selling well and in short supply you may not be able to find a dealer willing to accept A or X plan on one right now.
"...WE GOT BOTH UNITS COMING OFF THE LINE. THE ONES WE'RE BUILDING NOW ARE ARE TO FILL UP THE SYSTEM. JOB 1 IS SCHEDULED FOR OCT 17 2006. DELIVERY IS MID NOVEMBER. HOPE YOU ENJOY THEM THEY ARE THE BEST BUILT VECHILE I'VE SEEN FROM FORD."
Sounds great to me! :shades:
the forum addy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here's the Link:
2007 Lincoln MKZ (formerly Zephyr) with the new 3.5 V6 and 6-speed automatic
FWD 3,410 pounds, EPA ratings 19 / 27
AWD weight not given, EPA ratings 18 / 26
The FWD Edge is 663 pounds heavier than the MKZ, so I think that it will be rated 2 MPG less than the MKZ:
2007 Ford Edge with the new 3.5 V6 and 6-speed automatic:
FWD 4,073 pounds, my estimate of EPA ratings 17 / 25
AWD 4,282 pounds, my estimate of EPA ratings 16 / 24
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=5420854&nav=S6aK
Also, anyone know why this forum isn't listed under the Ford link, but, if you search the forums, you can find it?
2007 MKZ (formerly Zephyr) Overall Gear Ratios (transmission x final drive)
1st 14.4
2nd 8.2
3rd 5.4
4th 4.0
5th 3.0
6th 2.4
FWD 3,410 pounds, EPA ratings 19 / 27
AWD weight not given, EPA ratings 18 / 26
2007 Edge FWD Overall Gear Ratios (transmission x final drive) :
1st 12.4
2nd 8.0
3rd 5.1
4th 3.9
5th 2.8
6th 2.1
2007 Edge AWD Overall Gear Ratios (transmission x final drive) :
1st 14.2
2nd 9.1
3rd 5.8
4th 4.5
5th 3.2
6th 2.3
Perhaps it is enough of a difference to raise my estimates for the Edge to:
FWD 4,073 pounds, my estimate of EPA ratings 18 / 26
AWD 4,282 pounds, my estimate of EPA ratings 16 / 25
The ratios also make it clear that the AWD Edge will be noticably faster than the FWD Edge, since it only weighs 209 pounds (5%) more than the FWD version, but has 14% more torque multiplication over most of the gear range, tapering down to 9% more in 6th gear.
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An AWD SEL+ with Pan Roof, Audiophile System, 18" Premium Chrome-clad Wheels, Reverse Sensing & Trailer Towing Package lists out at $34,520 with $675 destination charge for my area. That's around $1,500 less than given previously.
I'm a relative newbie to these forums, and have been following the Edge quite closely. I'm eager to see it hit Ontario - the Edge is on our short list along with a couple of other SUV's.
Here's my concern - I know that Ford is determined to make the Edge the best vehicle that they've released from a feature and quality perspective. Where I start to get nervous is in comparing that objective to their goals around cost cutting via staff reductions. Can anyone who is far more knowledgeable comment on this? I wouldn't expect Ford to directly impact the Edge production line, but cuts could impact other areas that could easily be observed by a customer such as myself. Thanks! Ant.
Has anyone seen the invoice prices?
I'm not paying more than 30 for this car so I hope they are still tinkering with this site.
Funny thing is for me that's about what it priced out as when I didn't include the side air bags and roll stability. So no change for me but the bags and RSC are no longer options and the future options screen is gone too.
I seem to remember they had a remote start on that. Maybe that was on the Acadia. I don't know anything anymore but my head is hurting.
Ford does offer remote start as an accessory. It is easy to install yourself, or have the dealer do it.
The GMC-Acadia/Saturn ??/ and Buick Enclave triplets are far larger and heavier than the Edge, so I think it will be impossible for them to handle as well, accelerate as well, stop as well, and achieve good real-world fuel mileage.
But, (ah yes but) the remote start I had the dealer install on my 05 Mariner is not good enough for what I paid them and it took away the emergency feature. Factory built and this would not happen.
I do realize the Acadia will be heavier, bigger and probably more money too.
I do not expect to pay what the web site says assuming it is showing sticker price. I paid sticker once a long time ago when I was younger and got taken by a shady dodge dealer. But my point is I would expect it to be cheaper.
As for MSRP, I imagine like most cars, you can get it for under, but don't expect thousnads of dollars off like on an Explorer. For what I can gather, the Edge was priced closer to it's true value in an attempt to stop using discounts as a sales gimmick.
The key is supply and demand. Shelby GT500 mustangs are very short in supply and very high in demand, so the first ones are selling for $20K over MSRP. A v6 mustang can be had for close to invoice minus a small rebate.
Since the Edge/MKX are likely to be very popular and in high demand initially don't expect big rebates or big dealer discounts.
also, I can't help but wonder why everyone one the planet know that Fords new triplets are based on the mazda 6, yet not too many are willing to mention this...
Also, on the Mazda it says VVT, but i read someware that says fords 3.5 does not use it, or uses a modified version of it. I know they could tune the engine to mazda specs, but its still the same thing.
Am i wrong? Thanks.
The Ford 3.5L does use it on the intake valves, like most implementations.
Mark.
Oh, well, enjoy it. If they want people like myself to buy a Ford they need to lower the price. I owned one Ford in the past and it had a lot of problems compared to any other car I have bought.
I would try them one more time if the price was worth the risk but this price is not. In order to get people to switch back to them from toyota/honda, they have to set the prices low to get them in and then surprise them with quality.
You will immediately notice Edge has a strong pricing plan that closer aligns MSRPs to expected transaction prices. Edge pricing provides your dealership with an aggressive base Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $25,995 which includes destination and delivery. This base price positions Edge as the best consumer value among modern styled crossover vehicles with V6 powertrains.
Edge FWD Edge AWD
SE $25,995 $27,645
SEL $27,990 $29,640
SEL 'Plus' $29,745 $31,395
And the value continues with well-equipped packages! We also offer SE and SEL equipment value packages that provide increased vehicle content with more value for the consumer:
Series/Array MSRP
SE Convenience Package $295
SEL Seating Flexibility Pagckage $985
SEL Premium Package $1,555
SEL 'Plus' (Seating Flex + Premium Packages) $1,755
This is more than a RAV4 or CR-V but both those vehicles compete more directly with Escape. Escape is less than a comparably equipped RAV4.
Edge competes against the Murano and the Highlander...And do give me the Highlander has a 3rd row quip because if you call that a real seat, you obviously never sat there.
Edge will be thousands less than a Murano or a Highlander.
Incidently Highlander only gets the 3.3L engine also.
Mark.
I was wondering if you could give a discount percentage figure on the "A" plan pricing??????
From what I've gleaned, "X" plan pricing seems to be 4% above "A" plan (pricing that appears in the lower right hand corner of the dealer invoice) plus $150.
How does one see the dealer invoice price with the "A" plan??
Thanks, VB