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  • porcinimanporciniman Member Posts: 23
    While I appreciate the hype....Ford, has no choice, but to produce a winner!!!
    If this vehicle does not perform head and shoulders above their competitors, I could become one of their antagonists!!!

    I will drive this vehicle far harder than anyone.
    (70,000 miles a year!)
    I will be a bell weather!
    VB

    If it fails to meet their expectations, I'll let you know!
  • blstanleblstanle Member Posts: 6
    When can we expect to see invoice pricing? I am hoping that X-Plan pricing gets me closer to where I was hoping the pricing was going to end up.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Thus far, here are the components I plan to install in my Edge and the retail prices (before sales tax):

    Pioneer AVIC-Z1 navigation head unit $1,569.99
    Pioneer GEX-P10XMT tuner for XM radio & Nav-Traffic $169.99
    Pioneer WD-BT1 Bluetooth unit for the AVIC-Z1 $134.99
    Pioneer ND-BC1 rear view camera $189.99
    PAC SWI-PS steering wheel control interface $49.99

    The total comes to $2,114.95 for a system far superior to the factory offering. Of course, I will also need speakers and maybe an amplifier(s), but have not yet decided on those. I'll post again once I have everything installed.

    I noticed that the MKX with AWD cost about $7,500 more than the Edge SEL+ with AWD, but there doesn't seem to be any additional equipment on it. The MKX does offer Homelink, something I can easily add by changing the interior mirror. The MKX also offers an optional dimming exterior mirror, so I'll surely buy one of them and install it. The MKX also offers optional cooled seats, but I'll either get those as parts, replace the leather with cloth, or add "sheep"skins. I might have just gotten an MKX, but the price difference is wwaaaayyy too high, and we don't like the Lincoln interior with the bulky console lacking handy storage places the Edge has, and the Lincoln grille would be a real nuisance to keep clean.
  • kjnormankjnorman Member Posts: 243
    I just watched Autoline Detroit tonight and while the show was primarily focused on GM design they mentioned that the reviewers had test driven the Edge and came back feeling somewhat unimpressed with the vehicle. Their comment was "its not the hit vehicle that everyone is expecting".
  • colecole Member Posts: 67
    What is A-plan pricing on this? Talked to a dealer a week or so ago (after pricing was announced), but he could only get "close" by using a similarly MSRP'd vehicle b/c he said that he didn't have pricing yet.
  • gzgtpgzgtp Member Posts: 83
    Not an accurate statement.
    I suggest anyone with an X plan to check out your particular ford vehicle for yourself.
  • porcinimanporciniman Member Posts: 23
    This could slow things down!!!

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T- ype1&c=Article&cid=1159177928585&call_pageid=968350072197&col=969048863851
  • porcinimanporciniman Member Posts: 23
    More news:

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060925/strike_ford_060925/- 20060925?hub=Canada

    http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_3816.aspx

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T- ype1&c=Article&cid=1159178569468&call_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&t=TS_- Home

    http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T- ype1&c=Article&cid=1159177928585&call_pageid=968350072197&col=969048863851
  • atlvibeatlvibe Member Posts: 109
    I watched that show Sunday. The guest had two complaints. First, the weight of the vehicle was an issue. They seemed to to think the vehicle was heavy. Secondly, not offering a third row seat was a problem. I did see my first one on the road today and the car does have a good appearance.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    The Mazda CX-9 is the alternative for those who need either a larger cargo area and/or a third row.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    Ford's own X plan website says that Ford X plan is 0.4% below dealer invoice. I've bought 3 and that's absolutely correct.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    This forum is for the exchange of information. I appreciate peoples of opinions but I would like people to at least state why they believe a certain opinion.

    If you want to pick on someone who say something that you believe is wrong, you better have facts to back it up.

    I stated that X-plan was about a $100 below invoice because I was trying to put into terms that I felt people could more easily relate to then saying it is 0.4%.

    Incidently 0.4% is $100 for every $25,000.

    Also the formula is different for Lincolns. X-plan is about .8% over invoice. Which means that on some vehicles, you still can negotiate for lower than X-plan pricing for instance say on an LS or an 06 Navigator.

    Mark.
  • w8tg4edgew8tg4edge Member Posts: 25
    If I wanted a vehicle that had a third row truly useful for only those who are extremely vertically challenged, I would keep my Mountaineer! That's not what I'm in the market for and I don't think that's the target market that Ford is aiming for.

    I don't think those wonks have a clue about the market...besides they were spouting glowing babble about GM having a "styling renaissance". At least the host of the show said that he wanted to test drive the Edge so he could make up his own mind about it.
  • fastball25fastball25 Member Posts: 3
    When does the media embargo end on the Edge?
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    october 1st i hope.

    Mark.
  • w8tg4edgew8tg4edge Member Posts: 25
    Even though my decision is already made and my Edge is in the production queue, I'm past being ready for seeing how Ford is going to launch the Edge in the media - TV, Internet, Print, etc.

    I know that timing is crucial when you are trying to capture and maintain the target market's attention, but I think it's time to hit the afterburner and fly baby fly!
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    It's not Ford's fault per se. All the major monthly car magazines want these embargos so they have time to get their stories on the magazine stands at the same time and not get scooped by a month or two by a paper or weekly magazine.
  • ANT14ANT14 Member Posts: 2,687
    And as a hint, automakers are aware of who is releasing, what, where and when. So purposely they'll try and delay a media embargo, so their vehicle receives total attention on that months cover over another automaker who might just be doing a simple reskinning...
  • pnewbypnewby Member Posts: 277
    Yep, Loaded Explorer EB was $60 under invoice on X-Plan, Bought it yesterday. A plan was about $1,550 under invoice, but Ford will subsidize that I believe, so you really have to be eligible to get it. Dealer gave me the sheet with MSRP, Invoice, A, Z, D and X Plan prices at bottom.
  • samminsammin Member Posts: 39
    Does anyone know if factory Remote Start will be offered on the Edge? Seems like a natural. If not, should I have the dealer install one at time of purchase, or get it done aftermarket somewhere else?

    Thanks
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    Ford gives the dealer a "spiff" check (commission) for each A, X, D or Z plan vehicle they sell. That's how the dealers make money on them. My dealership gives the employees the spiff check when they buy vehicles on D plan so they probably pay even less than A plan.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Ford does not yet do factory remote start.

    The system you want to get is from Code Alarm and is Ford OEM. If you get it from the dealer, they will try to stick to you big time for the price.

    Do not pay over $400 installed. Remember, everything is negotiable. Just don't mention that you want remote start until after you settled on the selling price of the car.

    Mark
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Dang, I want that pay plan. At my dealership I only got paid the usual commission from Net Net on the car.

    Mark
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    There are several dealers selling ford parts on the Internet. I have found the Ford remote start system for the Explorer for $277.36, and the one for the Edge should be the same or very similar, and at the same or very similar price.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Exactly so, not sure if it can be self installed.

    Also, you have to buy a seperate modual to integrate the Securloc anti-theft device.

    When you buy a car, dealers will usually ask upwards of $600.

    Mark.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Here are two of the sellers of Ford Accessories I found. Both have the Ford remote start system at far under list price. As mschmal pointed out, the adapter to connect to the security system is a separate part. Installing it should be easy.

    http://www.fordaccessories.com/

    http://www.fordaccessoriesstore.com/fas/b2c/home.asp
  • beerme1beerme1 Member Posts: 67
    My dealer gave me a copy of a draft with invoice pricing and told me X plan should be just under that. He also said it was a draft but it was dated 9/20
    If this is it, then this vehicle will be too rich for me.
    All my options I'm looking at 34K +. I previously said I didn't think the Edge was worth 7K more than my 05 loaded AWD Mariner Premier. I am positive I am not paying 10K plus for an equally loaded Edge. Taking off the nav and it's still over 8K more. If that's the deal I will be waiting it out a while.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    beerme1 - you are apparently assigning a value of zero to the differences between the Edge and the Escape/Mariner/Tribute, especially the new 3.5 V6 and 6-speed automatic, the very good handling reported by ANT14, more interior space (the E/M/T are really narrow inside), and the very quiet ride Ford claims to have engineered. Perhaps none of those things matter to you, or perhaps you will drive an Edge(s) and assign a value significantly above zero to the differences.
  • beerme1beerme1 Member Posts: 67
    Al, you should have mail. If you didn't get it let me know.
    Willy
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Al may have mail and lots of spam by now too. :sick:

    Please don't post your email address in the forum - use your Profile for that or set up your CarSpace email. Otherwise the spam harvester bots will grab it. (I removed your post with your email address Al).
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Member Posts: 877
    Just get a CX-9????? A Freestyle is a great choice instead of an Edge or CX-9. Freestyle has a 3rd-row seat, and will have the larger 3.5L V6 in a year. I have a Freestyle now and love it with the mature 3.0L Duratec V6, and get 27 MPG averaged over 3,000 miles, with about 75% highway driving, and you can't beat a CVT. Freestyle all the way. With a Volvo XC90-derived unit body and crisp handling, its the way to go. Remember the Edge is based on the Fusion sedan, and the CX-9 is based on the Mazda6 sedan, not as good as Freestyle's DNA in my opinion. Any choice wouldn't be bad, but only the Freestyle has the smoothe CVT.
  • baggs32baggs32 Member Posts: 3,229
    Any choice wouldn't be bad, but only the Freestyle has the smoothe CVT.

    Not when it gets the Duratec35 next year (as an '08). I don't know why but the 35 will only be paired with the new GM/Ford developed 6-speed ATX. Same goes for the Five Hundred.
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    It's likely the CVT won't handle the extra torque - and it's more expensive.
  • baggs32baggs32 Member Posts: 3,229
    It's likely the CVT won't handle the extra torque - and it's more expensive.

    I've heard the former but don't know how true it is as Nissan makes it work and the latter doesn't seem right either. I'd guess that the new 6-speed is being used because they paid a good bit of money to co-develop it and want to use it in all the vehicles they can to recoup the costs.
  • coldcrankercoldcranker Member Posts: 877
    Yes, the Freestyle only has the CVT in '05, '06, and '07 models, not '08 models. The 6-speed has so many gears that it approximates a CVT anyway, and will get great gas mileage, keeping the engine in its best spot. I'd like to see what happens to MPG when the larger 3.5L gets into the Freestyle, and what MPG the Edge and CX-7/9 will have with the 3.5L as well.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    The Batavia tranny plant where the CVT is built is scheduled to be idled. Don't expect Ford to shift CVT production elsewhere.

    The problem with the CVT is that it is too expensive to build. Possibly because the chain comes from LUK of Europe and they didn't buget enough for currency shifts.

    Notwithstanding same, Ford sales people fail to present the CVT to customers correctly and as such, people don't know to floor the gas to get passing power. People end up with the false oppinion that the CVT vehicles are way underpowered.

    Mark.
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    We went to the auto show in Anaheim, CA yesterday. They have an Edge on a rotating platform, so people may only look from outside the platform. How frustrating! They also have an MKX on a stationary platform. After measuring the cargo compartment, we were really frustrated, because the big bulges on both sides make it too small for us. We like the passenger compartment. However, my wife happened to see an Explorer XLT without the 3rd row, rear HVAC system, and Audiophile system (rear speaker and amplifier), and it will be ideal for us. Somehow, I had never seen one without all three options. I also though the Explorer leather seats were the best of any I tried yesterday. Every time I drive her C230 I am reminded how much I like rear wheel drive. Therefore, we will buy an Explorer with the V8 and the base sound system, and I will add the navigation / NavTraffic/Bluetooth system and upgrade the speakers as required. Yes, it will probably use about $50 a month more gasoline than an Edge, but to me that seems like a bargain for the better fit with our needs, the V8 and rear wheel drive. It will also cost over $1,000 less than the AWD Edge.

    The production Edge and MKX look quite nice, and the auto show runs through Sunday 10/8/2006.
  • samminsammin Member Posts: 39
    Don't you guys think it is time for Ford to bring these vehicles down from their lofty rotating platforms and get them into showrooms? These things previewed at the Spring 06 Auto shows and are such old news, I am ready to wait it out and see what the 08 Fairlane looks like. :mad:
  • la4meadla4mead Member Posts: 347
    It would be great if they would get them off the rotating platforms down onto the floor where people could actually see them and sit in them, but as for showrooms, I think there are far too many examples when it would be better for them to introduce a product ready for the market, with as many "bugs" worked out as possible.

    Ford needs these "Bold" new cars, but it needs to get them right... without a lot of problems. Something I'm wary of!
  • sssfegysssfegy Member Posts: 132
    There is a HUGE difference in performance between both vehicles, the Freestyle is made to give a little more stable ride than Pacifica. The CX9 is designed like all Mazda where you would look forward to driving the car and its performance without sacrificing practicality and Reliability. Please no offense but the Freestyle will come WAY behind the Mazda if you compare both side to side.
  • markanmarkan Member Posts: 48
    My wife and I are seriously looking at the Edge for our next vehicle. One of our needs is dual temp controls. Is anyone else disappointed that the only way to get dual controls is with the Premium Package in the SEL? Will some of the individual items in the package be available as stand alone options? Thanks for the input.
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    NO.

    This vehicle will still be far less expensive than a Nissan Murano.

    Mark
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Also, Don't expect to see many SELs with Cloth and probably no one is ordering an SEL with Premium packaging but not the Flex Seating package.

    The Seat Package is 950,
    The Premium Package is 1,550
    Both together though is only $1,755.

    Mark
  • markanmarkan Member Posts: 48
    Need a little help here. Pewter looks like a blueish-grey with more grey than blue. Is that accurate and has anyone seen this color?
  • mschmalmschmal Member Posts: 1,757
    Pewter is a dark grey color with hint of blue. Its very nice looking. Was availabe for 06 on Expeditions.

    Not purply like Tungsten.

    Mark.
  • redundantredundant Member Posts: 15
    I have been following this sight for months. When are they going to release this car for review? It was supposed to be out by now when it was announced. People claim they have seen them. The Mazda CX-9 is based on it, same engine, and it has been reviewed. It is really frustrating and surprising.

    Just my rant. Now I feel better.

    Jim
  • akirbyakirby Member Posts: 8,062
    They don't hit the dealers until November so they're timing all the media coverage and reviews accordingly. They're also avoiding all of the other introductions that happened in September and October. Look for lots of articles and reviews in the next issue of all the car mags.
  • rafael2rafael2 Member Posts: 20
    WHY should I buy the Ford Edge and not a [non-permissible content removed] made one????

    Reliable, Dependable, Solid Build and the like are not some of the qualities associated with FORD. I have viewed many pictures of the Ford Edge and I like the look so far but it's all cosmetic how about the things that make or break a brand. I just traveled close to 2,800 miles in 10 days from Boston, MA to Columbia, SC and other cities in between in my 2001 Honda Odyssey EX with 2 kids with NO PROBLEMS. Nada,zip, not even a flat. Just gas, 2 oil changes and go.

    I mean Ford makes vehicles to last 150k miles top on average and thats with many expense$ and problems? Its 150k miles good enough in a society that its easy to commute 80 miles a day plus traffic, rush hours and jams? I had 2 Ford vehicles my favorite a 1994 T-bird LX (die after many repairs, replacement parts at 156k miles w/ good care). I like that car but very problematic.
    I even got booed and ugly faces made at me few times because I was driving a Ford by other Ford drivers with dead vehicles on the side of the road. Ohmmm bad memories with this car. When i got my Hondas, a Odyssey and a Civic I got complements even from my father. I put 172k miles before selling it, I got it at about 68k and replace only the stereo w/ speakers, tires, a battery besides the regular PM expenses. Happy. :)

    Im not promoting other automakers here nor i intend to bash Ford. Im just sharing my experiences and others with you all. Two of my neighbor just got a Ford Explorers one couple just had a baby and saw us buy the Odessy and all the room we got in there.
    Ford just got a recall of 145k viecles including the NEW Fusion on witch the Edge share part with. Ohhmmm. so what should I think of Ford now, empty promises AGAIN! and AGAIN and AGAIN.
    I would like to buy the EDGE but my wife is right. We both had too many dissapointment with Ford and NOT AGAIN! :D

    Hope you all get good experiences from your ford buys!
    Rafael
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    edge is a different vehicle than an odyssey. not a vehicle you would be interested in, but others may be.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • w8tg4edgew8tg4edge Member Posts: 25
    The Edge's official media launch is tommorrow (Monday, 10/16) at 1:00 EDT. You can catch it live on media.ford.com

    I would even venture to guess that you just might see a commercial during Monday Night Football.
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