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2007 Ford Edge
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At least it will still be better than the Rav 4, which not only has no flip-up glass but also a tailgate that *swings* open...the wrong way.
Not anymore. The 2007 model has a traditional hatch. Not sure about the flip up glass.
Oh really? Believe it or not that was the main reason I didn't buy a Rav 4 and was waiting to look at the Edge. So now it's a tie in that department for 2007. I'm really looking forward to comparing these two vehicles for myself now.
I don't care about the weight but the less than stellar mileage does bother me.
What would you consider ideal weight and better than mediocre mileage, then?
I dunno, how did we ever get along before seat belts? Deadly, one may remember. I guess it never rains or snows where you live. Or sand never blows across the road. Or you never hit any washboard or gravel while cornering. Where do you drive, the Autobahn at Disneyland in Anaheim?
AWD is a blessing over heavy, full-featured four-wheel drive systems which were the only choice (besides Quattro) not even a generation ago. Sure, my old front wheel drive Accord was manageable if very, very careful when driving over Donner Pass, but everybody in the car is much happier today doing the same in an AWD Volvo S60.
Would the future be a bad place if all vehicles had some form of AWD? Now if we could just get rid of those pesky air bags -- I can't find the switch to turn them on...
I don't think it's perfect but I think it's good enough to sell 150K/yr.
Again what does weight matter if the vehicle is faster and handles just as good as its competition. Also remember car mags take the vehicles through the slalom at the maximum. NO ONE drives like this in normal life. I own a Mazda6 and though its handling is superb, I haven't taken the car to its limits of handling even with my brisk driving nature. Who the heck takes a CUV or SUV to it's handling max?
Observations:
The Ford engine has more horse. The Edge runs faster to 60 and handles much like the Murano. Styling? I don't like the Murano styling. I think the Edge and CX-7 are much better. Many Highlander, Sante Fe, CR-V, Tribeca, etc. owners may also agree. That is why styling is subjective.
Ford -- Living on the Edge? (Karl on Cars)
I'd have to say that Karl had some major beefs with the Edge. Yes, it will sell, but we'll be seeing major rebates, I'd be willing to bet. Isn't a new Highlander supposed to be coming out next year? The Edge isn't as good as the current Highlander, from what I'm reading.
"Driving dynamics should be considered a strong point for the Edge. It has standard Ford steering, meaning accurate and communicative, and the ride/handling balance is about perfect for the target customer (I'd personally prefer a bit stiffer suspension settings, but most buyers will like the tuning). Acceleration is also strong, if not class leading. We need a comparison test to confirm how it stacks up in the segment, but I don't see anyone complaining about power in this vehicle, and overall engine refinement is not an issue."
"Ultimately I see the Edge being a successful product for Ford. It looks good, it drives well and it has a comfortable, roomy and attractive (if somewhat chintzy) interior. Ford is hoping for well over 100,000 in annual sales, and I think it will get them. "
No mention of rebates.
Or that his opinions are out of touch with buyers. Ford has over 20,000 orders in hand and over 50,000 web requests for information - as of last month.
You don't think 20,000 people would order an Edge without even seeing one, much less test driving it? A few hundred, sure, but not 20,000.
http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordEdge/
Brings to mind the Ford Focus. All that hype about utility and fuel economy. Well, who likes the Focus now? Plague with problems and defects not to mention that a 2003 Focus LX looks like a 1995 Honda Civic if that.
Time will tell BUT, LOOK at the pictures posted at Familycar.com and will see a bunch of miss alignment in the interior . http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/FordEdge/Images2007/Console.jpg
look at the outer plastic of the console as it comes down to the floor. Ohmmmm, this is just one. The Lincoln also has mis-alingments too. OHhmmm.
I think of it as a lease or rental, best to barrow it drive it for a day and let someone else pay the bill.
Another thing, it seems that FoMoCo workers are in the forums defending their jobs.
Nice guys
Someone has to do the fight for FoMoCo.
FoMoCo gives a lot of clues in their video episodes. In the introduction video he says
"... America loves the truth and loves an underdog and that us." WOW.
Also, if you listen all they do is make promises and talk about the good looks of the Edge (have you look at 2007Mazda CX-9, or a cheaper better 2007 Honda CRV?) and then they shift blame of the past in engeneering and design. The is 2 guys saying they need to count on people to bring their design to standards as to say "not my foult the company dont give me what I ask for". LOser culture.
And YES I'm mad a bit about the whole thing.
I need another car I would like it to be American made with American name BUT, I think HONDA and Toyota are just MORE American than Ford.
And that will have to do.
Did he mention QUALITY built and durability by any chance??
Indeed the Edge looks that kills lol.
Ford already stated that the dash material on was going to be changed for Job #1 because it was causing glare. Often, many final details and are decided and production kinks worked out just before Job #1.
Mark.
So they're going to use duller cheap plastic?
Amazing that a company that has been building cars for over 100 years can't predict what materials might cause glare before they spend a ton of money building them that way.
Also, you'd think a company that has lost it's [non-permissible content removed] on lawsuits would NOT release a pair of new vehicles whose brakes aren't much better than draggin your feet out the door, but they did.
Finally, you'd think that a vehicle as important as this one is to a company about to go the way of Studebaker would be overdesigned and overbuilt just to be sure. But nooooooo. In the current Motor Trend, 22 'new' SUVs are tested for their SUVOTY trophy, including the Edge and the Emm Kay Exx. Where do they finish? Why dead last of course. Behind the Hyundai and even the Suzuki. Good thing Vespa and Tonka aren't in this market yet, eh?
For those who don't know, I own 2 Lincolns and 2 Fords and would like to see the company succeed. But I'm not going to carry water for fools who can't do it for themselves.
Horrible brakes? Unforgiveable.
Cheap interior? And we thought that was a thing of the past, especially on the Lincoln.
The 'D-L' shifter? Unbelieveable. Are they TRYING to doom this platform to blue hairs and 'passengers with keys' as another poster put it?
To finish, here's a couple of quotes from Motor Trend:
"After driving (the Edge) we're not optimistic about Ford's future." (Go ahead, read that again to get the full effect.) ANd of the Lincoln:
"... a Lincoln should represent more than just an option package above a Ford."
These vehicles aren't meant for enthusiasts. Read the familycar.org review - that's more typical of what the average buyer will think.
But I do agree - these vehicles are not for enthusiasts. Hey, there's an idea for a new Ford ad campaing:
"Drivers NOT wanted."
Oh, I did see a Consumer Reports review of the Fusion. Not bad. Finished ninth.
The Fusion is more reliable than Camry or Accord V6 models according to CR.