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Does anyone know what the difference is between the 2006 and 2007 RRSports? any mechanical differences that people should be aware of? I'm assuming that the 2007s will be better just because they had a year to fix glitches with the 06. I know the body style is the same.
I have an 06' Range Rover Sport and live in California. It seems that the only phone that will fit in the Dealer supplied is the Nokia 6230i. Land Rover customer service recommended I call a company called "Wireless Solutions". They were selling the phone for $399.99 and guaranteed it to work upon installation.
My problem is that the phone is very outdated and more expensive than it's original cost.
Who can be contacted to see what Land Rover is doing about this situation?
The only thing you lose is address book uploading to the car and recharge off the cradle.
Are there any contacts at Land Rover that would have information on new developments?
That is the largest Range Rover forum on the web. There are a lot of owners on there along with a couple of land rover techs. One of them might hear something before the average person.
The car is Range Rover Sport Supercharged with optional Stormer 20" wheels, MSRP $72,000.
The money factor is .00325 and residual 68%
The X plan sells the car for 4% over invoice or about 68k.
Most dealers here in Phila are quoting 1400 plus a month- I was able to get these numbers from a dealer in Michigan and now of course the phila dealers are willing to make it work.
Do you think 1250 is a solid deal for 24 months?
Other dealers had agreed to grant me X-plan pricing but amazingly no one was calling me back. Misiion Viejo's internet manager was prepared to work over the phone before I came in then she did an awesome job helping me into the vehicle.
MV is not really convenient for me so getting there is a pain. They have a brand new facility though and were given a good allocation of cars because of their investment. Im sincerely very happy with them.
anyway, if anyone knows about the 2008 RRSports, post some links, because I've never heard of them and it would seem weird to release a new model for 3 successive years in a row.
Has anyone had luck in TX getting payments in the high 800's and low $ 900'S?
No one is going to get into the 800-900 dollar range on a 2007 Sport without a lot of money down. Wait till the middle of next week when the new lease programs come out. The payments will be slightly better but probably not in the 800-900 range.
1. What is going on with ridiculous lease prices I have seen? A zero down lease on a $70K car should not cost over $1K. Why are LR dealers charging these insane prices? Is it due to poor residuals? Demand? Does anyone have an idea?
2. Can any existing owners comment on reliability? In addition to LR having the absolute worst ranking in the 2006 JD Power & Associates survey, I have seen a huge number of posts on various web forums with people having a tremendous amount of problems with their Land Rovers. My existing vehicle is an Infiniti FX and I had two minor problems with it in the 38 months of the lease. I know that Land Rover reliability cannot compare to Japanese cars, but constant problems with Rover would simply ruin my life and my family's life, so I am wondering if there have been any quality improvements recently.
I have seen several posts about 08 MY models coming out in June. Does anyone know if any changes were made to 2008 RRS?
Can anyone comment on their experience with level of service in the dealerships of NYC area (or tri-state area). While looking for a best price, I exchanged emails with a dealer in MD, who acted very snobby (as if he was selling me a one of a kind vintage Ferrari). He gave me the "if you have to ask how much is a Rolls Royce, you probably cant afford it" type of speech, which really pissed me off.
Thanks in advance for any info you provide.
Eugene
2007 BMW 745LI (MSRP $82,675) - $1120/mo
2007 MB ML 500 (MSRP $66,670) - $999/mo
2007 Audi Q7 4.8 Premium (MSRP $63,940) - $930/mo
2007 MB G500 (MSRP $86,000) - $1300/mo
...now compare that to...
2007 Range Rover Sport (MSRP $66,950) - $1295/mo
2007 Range Rover Sport Supercharged (MSRP $71,250) - $1395/mo
Notice anything strange? I mean - what is the deal? What gives? Poor residuals? Dealer greed? All of this for a vehicle that was placed LAST in the 2006 JD Power initial quality survey. Someone please explain to me what is going on?
The consumer has gotten addicted to these highly subvened leasing programs. Using real residuals and real money factors that is what a 60,000-70,000 dollar car leases for.
No luxury vehicle has a 70 plus percent residual over 24 months like BMW normally puts on their leasing programs. The current Prime Rate in the US is 8.25 so real money factors will be at or around that rate.
The residuals for the Range Sport are fairly strong, it did win an award for best residual value in its class, but the money factors are very, very high. They are prime plus whatever Land Rover decides to tack on and will stay that way as long as the Sports keep moving off the lots. Land Rover hasn't had any problem selling them even with the high lease payments.
https://www.alg.com/awards.aspx
As long as ground stock stays low then the lease payments will stay high. Why stack incentives on a vehicle that does not need them?
RRS HSE X-Plan MSRP
base $54,168.00 $57,235.00
lux pckg $ 2,840.00 $ 3,000.00
rear diff lck $ 474.00 $ 500.00
destination $ 714.00 $ 714.00
total $58,196.00 $61,449.00
You can't fit rims smaller then 19 inch on the Supercharged Sport because of the huge brakes. You can fit 18 inch rims on the HSE Sport if you want as I have seen a couple of people do it.
Sometimes you can do better then X-Plan sometimes you can't. It depends on the car you are looking at and the region you are shopping in. In our store you could do better then X-Plan, although only by a tiny amount, on LR3s but we won't honor X-plan pricing on Range Rovers.
DEALER 1. (April 2007)
MSRP - $71,250.00
15,000 miles
39 month lease
Residual - $37,050.00
Money factor - 0.0033
Money down - $5,000.00
Monthly payment - $1,299.00
DEALER 2. (December 2006)
MSRP - $73,550.00
Discount from MSRP - $4,000.00
15,000 miles
39 month lease
Residual - $47,807.00
Money factor - 0.00462
Money down - $5,000.00
Monthly payment - $1,072.00
LOCAL LEASING COMPANY. (December 2006)
MSRP - $73,550.00
Discount from MSRP - $4,000.00
15,000 miles
39 month lease
Residual - $34,800.00
Money factor – 0.00234
Money down - $5,000.00
Monthly payment - $1,117.00
What is a reasonable or fair residual for this car after (39) months and what is a reasonable money factor? First year depreciation must be about 20%, then 10% each year thereafter?
The entire marketplace has gotten crazy with incentives in the past few years and Land Rover has ZERO incentives on their vehicles with the exeption of left over 2006 MY LR3s.
I was just at the launch for the new land rover and one of the things we talked about was lease incentives. They had charts for the various makes and how much their average incentive was. BMW, Audi and Mercedes are averaging nearly 8,000 dollars a car in incentives. With the exeption of the LR3 Land Rover has only a few hundred dollars of incentives per car.
If you want the Land Rover you have to PAY for it. That is the way it has always been. The company is much too small with too low volume to offer the huge incentives the other makes do.
When the 2008 MY vehicles start arriving there will probably be some marketing support but I doubt anything will happen till then.
The dealership quoted me approximatley $1,000 for hooking up and providing me with a trailer hitch and wireing harness. They quoted me $498 for a roof rack plus labor. Well the labor it turns out will be about 4 hrs at $85 an hour; hence, my question on the pre-drilled holes in my earlier post. Mud-flaps will cost me around $250.
it's $325 for the removable hitch. That has to be one of the silliest inventions in quite a while. it sits do dang low that I had to buy an $80 adapter to raise it up to use my bike/ski rack. Plus, most after market hitch locks will not fit because the thing is about 1/4" too wide. They need to factory install a permanent one like the big Rover.
Link to news clip about the refreshed interiors. Pictures are of the LR3 but it mentions Land Rover's announcement at the Geneva Auto Show.
The RRS is going to get new wood choices and double stiched door panels.
X-Plan Pricing with base MF on a lease.
The one I want is in another state and the dealer states he needs $1100 to get it here.
Is this right? Just seems like too much money given it came from the UK for less than $800.