to remember when it first came out on tv, but I did grow up on the Incredible Hulk episode where they robbed a bunch of stock footage from "Duel", used one of the surviving trucks to stand in for new footage, found a Valiant or two that they spray-painted to match the original, and made everybody in that episode wear a blue shirt so that the old footage of Dennis Weaver would sort of match up.
THAT is one intimidating looking truck! It's so cool how the inside of the cab can't really be seen from the outside - giving it that, sinister "who's up there" feel. Great movie too. Very tense theater of the mind. Excellent stuff!
This friend of mine actually collects antique fire trucks. he has 8 or 10 that go back to the 30's. We drive several of the for the towns founders day parade
Here's some firetruck trivia for you:
The Seagrave V-12 is actually a Peirce Arrow design that was bought by Seagrave after P-A went belly up.
The American LaFrance V-12 was an designed for Auburn by Continental.
This information came from The V-12 Engine, by Karl Ludvigsen. It is a great book and I highly recommend it.
the Duel truck is still around, how about a sequel? one picture had in it a family loading up their Pilot. I am thinking a prius. they can show the power graphic as it limps uphill in fail-safe mode. it is a lot more modern that a temperature gauge. what do you think? based on what i just paid for a brake job on my explorer, i'm keeping it a while to recoup some of the expense! it does stop better, though.
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Just a minor point. "Duel" was the first movie that Steven Spielberg had directed. I believe he was 22 years old at the time. Just a prelude to the great movies he would direct.
rented Cavalier again, hopefully for the last time ever. It almost begs for me to take some parting shots at it, but I will resist temptation! Only because the Cobalt is such an improvement. But let me just say that at 37K miles, it is the highest-miled Cav I have ever had from Enterprise, and the miles do nothing good for matters!
I finally had a look inside the new Tahoe the other night - WHOA! Is that ever an improvement! They seem to have hardly changed the look at all on the outside. And glory be, my local Chevy dealer is finally stocking cars, although mostly Cobalts which I suspect is a response to the national TV ads for that model. With the early '06 price adjustment, those cars finally seem to be priced right. Would certainly seem a better deal right now than the similarly-priced Focus.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
With a .5 second gap in 0-60, a simple driver error could easily make the 'slower' car the victor. That chip on the shoulder should probably decrease in size...
Don't get ahead of yourself, you don't want to end up like some of these old guys in Vettes and Porsches etc who are so off the mark that a V6 Camcord could take them.
even the time of day, altitude, temperature, humidity, etc can make a difference in a car's acceleration time. And the effect is going to be different from car to car, so if, say, a CTS-V and M3 were tested on the same day, it's not to say that they would both perform the same way on a different day.
I'd say with a .5 second difference in 0-60 times, it's pretty much a draw. Unless they test and re-test a whole bunch of times, and consistently get those same times.
Also, while the CTS is priced about the same as a 3-series, isn't it really more apt to compare it to the 5-series? It's sized more like the 5, even if the price is more like the 3.
A 1985 Caprice priced out about the same as a 1985 Camry, but did any magazine ever pit the two head-to-head in a teardown? :P
I am not a head of myself, I know the car and know how to make it perform. Now I may not drive it all the time and I may use all that power an rare occasions, but I will still smoke that M3 if I so desired.
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If you're a mere .5 sec ahead in 0-60, you must have a long straight stretch of road capable of getting you to felony-worthy speeds to be able to see the opponent in the mirror. You won't "smoke" anything if you're half a second ahead. You might nose ahead, if everything works out.
Seems very impractical for someone who thrives on the economy of Hyundais...
I don't like SUV's as a rule, but that thing is superb. 21mpg highway, and can run on E85 85% ethanol fuel. My boss is considering one for that reason (I rode along for the test drive). Very smooth ride, all but shrugged off the fierce crosswinds we had in Wisconsin yesterday.
The new Cobalts are really nice cars, I drove a coupe and really liked it. The sedan's more useful, however, if you need to actually put people in the back seat - the cobalt coupe made my old '93 Toyota Paseo seem easy to get in the back of. If I didn't need a hatchback I would be all over the coupe...dang it's a sharp car! The optional Pioneer stereo has a spacious, open sound...much better than the Bose systems GM usually uses for premium sound, which I find tonally and dynamically constricted. They got the ergonomics right too. Lots of hard plastic, but no more so than the Focus (and higher-quality than the Focus, too). If they made the Cobalt available as a hatchback (a la the Opel Astra) the Cobalt lineup would be complete.
I don't like SUV's as a rule, but that thing is superb. 21mpg highway, and can run on E85 85% ethanol fuel.
I would stay away from the E85 unless its a lot less than gas. With E85 you will most likely lose about 25% or more of your mileage. So your 21 MPG will drop to something like 15 MPG.
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I'd say with a .5 second difference in 0-60 times, it's pretty much a draw. Unless they test and re-test a whole bunch of times, and consistently get those same times.
sorry but .5 seconds is not a draw in fact .5 seconds is a lot in a 0-60 sprint if we were talking about a 3hr race then no .5 is not a big deal but in a race that only lasts between 4-5 sec it is huge
Also, while the CTS is priced about the same as a 3-series, isn't it really more apt to compare it to the 5-series? It's sized more like the 5, even if the price is more like the 3.
yeah id compare it to the 5 as well... if it were priced with the 5 but its not and im sure there were probly lots of comparisons between 85 caprice and camry done by the consumers, if they were the same price, which is kind of the same comparison being done here between the caddy and the m3, when im shopping for veichles i know how much i want to spend and i look at veichles in that price then i dont go and compare them to veichles that cost 30% more
Toyota in the next year or two will exceed car sales of GM according to recent reports. Their market share is increasing because they have cars that are very reliable although some are lacking in the styling department.
Toyota is the manufacturer of choice for today and into the next decade.
Toyota is the manufacturer of choice for today and into the next decade.
That may be, however they are not starting off 2006 with a bang. If it were not for truck sales they would be lagging 2005 sales numbers. Their cars and SUVs are flat to negative sales figures.
2-week down-time in production of Camry while they retool from the old model to the new? ;-)
"Toyota is the manufacturer of choice for the next decade"?
Hehe, sounds like a sound bite from a press release. Toyota is the manufacturer with the best business plan and the most money right now, might be what I'd say.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Is that why they only had 6500 Prii available to the buying public in Feb? They may have a good plan, but pride cometh before a fall. The American public is getting fed up with imported goods from everywhere. Makes no difference if it is assembled here. It is still parts from somewhere else. The tables could turn at a moments notice. The name most recognized could be the target of our frustration with all imported goods. Call it fickled and you are correct. The American buyer is fickled, and upset....
None of them offer a decent midsize wagon (NOT SUV, not "crossover" - wagon) or hatchback, manual transmission is a long unfullfilled dream with V6, their handling is usually so-so.
For now My first choice : Subaru - almost all I want at a very reasonable price; a few irritating idiosincracies and issues as it is a small company and cannot offer all the stuff I want My second choice: Audi - all stuff I want, just too expensive to both purchase and maintain and reliability at best spotty My third choice: BMW - see Audi My forth choice: Mazda - good handling, great price, but recent IIHS tests show they have work to do on their lineup. My fifth choice: Saab - very nice looks, nice features, but FWD does not make me lust them and of course reliability is an issue. My sixth choice: Volvo - see Saab, except AWD is available, but it is not the kind I would want (not a Haldex fan).
Sources like Consumer Reports for New Cars and Used Vehicles pretty much shows the reliability of the Toyota-Lexus line has been and continues to be the benchmark. Not sure how much the price difference is between the Tacoma and the Colorado, but the Toyota on an average will last longer with less repair expense than the GM product, and when the wheels are ready to fall off and it is time for trade in there will be more value in the Toyota.
The Subaru line should show some changes in the future. Toyota just bought over 8% of GM's shares of Subaru, and announced yesterday they will begin to assemble Camrys in the Indiana Subaru plant. Toyota buys into Subaru as GM drops its share. You may also want to look at the Mazda 5 Multipurpose Vehicle. Doesn't have a 6 cyl, but has a lot of flexibility. Or the new Toyota Rav 4 that does have the largest 6 cyl in class.
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TOKYO - Toyota has agreed to buy 8.7 percent of the shares General Motors holds in Japanese automaker Fuji Heavy Industries, Toyota and Fuji officials said Wednesday.
The purchase by Toyota Motor Corp. will make it the top shareholder in Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd., said Toyota Executive Vice President Mitsuo Kinoshita and Fuji Heavy President Kyoji Takenaka at a joint news conference.
Toyota will spend $310.5 million.
General Motors Corp. will sell its remaining 11.4 percent of Fuji, which makes Subaru cars, in the market.
GM and Fuji agreed to dissolve their alliance and capital relationship, the two officials said.
Toyota and Fuji are setting up a steering committee to try to reach an agreement on future collaboration as soon as possible, the companies said.
Toyota has been on a roll lately, boosting sales in North America, Europe and other parts of Asia and recording booming profits. GM, based in Detroit, has been in trouble, losing $1.1 billion in the first quarter.
GM and Toyota have a long-standing partnership to share environmental technology, and they run a car assembly plant in California together, although the ties do not involve holding stakes in each other.
Toyota Chairman Hiroshi Okuda has expressed worries lately about a possible political backlash from U.S. automakers because of Toyota's bright results at a time when GM and Ford are faltering.
He even suggested Toyota raise the price of car models in the United States. Toyota raised prices soon after, but denied the move was to placate U.S. automakers.
Toyota, based in central Japan's Toyota city, holds stakes in two Japanese automakers, Daihatsu Motor Co., which makes small cars, and Hino Motors, which makes trucks.
GM is in trouble - Bankruptcy is a possibility, but I hope they survive. They are needed in the marketplace. They have a large amount of short term cash and cash equivalent, that if they manage wisely can help them survive. Short term sale increases can evaporate very quickly. They seem to have a better line up of current and future cars than Ford. They are dragged down financially by a huge amount of expenses related to pensions and healthcare. If auto work unions continue to insist on the pay levels for their workers in the future, Ford, Chrysler, and GM all three are in for some rocky times.
Not sure how much the price difference is between the Tacoma and the Colorado,
You can buy a fullsize Silverado for less than a Tacoma comparably equipped. My experience with 5 GM fullsize trucks is much more positive than the one 1994 Toyota PU truck I owned. Plus gas mileage is almost identical. Why Toyota cannot build a high mileage PU is beyond me. I have always had great resale with my Silverados.
I thought the newest Tacomas were pretty economical, because I took a quick look at the fuel economy ratings and saw that the V-6 is rated 21/26 with an automatic. Then I went back and looked again and saw that's 21/26 with a 2.7 V-6. With the 4.0 it drops down to 18/22.
In contrast, the Silverado 4.3/auto is 16/21, and even the 4.8 V-8 is 16/21! I think my old '85 Silverado 3.5/3-speed automatic is something like 14/16. I only WISH it did that well these days! :sick:
will open up like a tin can if you hit them just right with a '68 Dart. :P Although when you figure how thin they roll sheetmetal these days, just about anything would, I guess!
Traditionally, GM trucks, at least the bigger ones, usually got very good fuel economy. The construction company my uncle works for would usually buy GMs because they got the best economy, and tended to be the most durable for their needs. When it came to smaller trucks they'd go with Toyota. I think one reason there though is that Toyota was the only maker to offer a small truck in the 1-ton series.
In real world driving a GM small block V8 will get 13-15 MPG. The 4C MT Toyota PU I had was lucky to get 15-17 MPG. Not enough difference for the problems I had with that engine. The reason I bought it was for gas mileage. It was rated 22/27 MPG. It never hit 20 MPG on the highway. Maybe some place where you drive 45 MPH tops it would get good mileage. Not on So. CA freeways.
I could actually get my '85 Silverado (well back then it was Granddad's) to break 20 mpg on the highway. I thought that was pretty good for something that didn't have an overdrive tranny. Nowadays though, it gets around 10 mpg around town. It hasn't been on a long trip in ages, but I think the best I've been able to do in the 3 1/2 years I've had it is 14.
The 4C MT Toyota PU I had was lucky to get 15-17 MPG.
Wow, you did get the worst truck Toyota ever built. Something was seriously wrong with that one, unless you were riding around in 3rd gear hauling a bed full of gravel in it every day.
anythngbutgm wrote: "Ugh, Maytag's aren't what they used to be... "
I would concur. One could also make the argument that some Japanese car brands aren't what they used to be as well. But, this could also be said of a number of marques. Every company eventually tends to rest somewhat on their laurels.
If that's your opinion great, I respect that. My experience with asian brands (And MB)has been extremely positive, nothing short of what I expected. My experience with Maytags... not so good :lemon: They were supposedly the most reliable on the market and I found that to be a crock o' dung.
Toyo is to Maytag as Buick is to youthful buyers :P
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Here's some firetruck trivia for you:
The Seagrave V-12 is actually a Peirce Arrow design that was bought by Seagrave after P-A went belly up.
The American LaFrance V-12 was an designed for Auburn by Continental.
This information came from The V-12 Engine, by Karl Ludvigsen. It is a great book and I highly recommend it.
Turboshadow
I am thinking a prius. they can show the power graphic as it limps uphill in fail-safe mode. it is a lot more modern that a temperature gauge.
what do you think?
based on what i just paid for a brake job on my explorer, i'm keeping it a while to recoup some of the expense!
it does stop better, though.
i don't know how he keeps himself out of trouble.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
A good start for 2006: better yet for GM if it keeps up.
http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_files/IROL/84/84530/sales_production/Deliver- ies_0306.xls
M3 333 HP
CTS-V 400 HP
M3 262 lbs torque
CTS-V 395 lbs torque
M3 0-60 around 5 seconds
CTS-V 0-60 around 4.5 seconds
See you and your M3 in my rear view mirror.
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I finally had a look inside the new Tahoe the other night - WHOA! Is that ever an improvement! They seem to have hardly changed the look at all on the outside. And glory be, my local Chevy dealer is finally stocking cars, although mostly Cobalts which I suspect is a response to the national TV ads for that model. With the early '06 price adjustment, those cars finally seem to be priced right. Would certainly seem a better deal right now than the similarly-priced Focus.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
It has been a while since GM started a year on the upswing. I had missed it.
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I'd say with a .5 second difference in 0-60 times, it's pretty much a draw. Unless they test and re-test a whole bunch of times, and consistently get those same times.
Also, while the CTS is priced about the same as a 3-series, isn't it really more apt to compare it to the 5-series? It's sized more like the 5, even if the price is more like the 3.
A 1985 Caprice priced out about the same as a 1985 Camry, but did any magazine ever pit the two head-to-head in a teardown? :P
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
That's on a straight road. How about the M3 over the Caddy in the twisties?
Seems very impractical for someone who thrives on the economy of Hyundais...
I enjoy the luxury of a luxury car when the wife and I go out on the town, to a party, wedding or the like.
I got the high performance simply because it was a steal.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
The new Cobalts are really nice cars, I drove a coupe and really liked it. The sedan's more useful, however, if you need to actually put people in the back seat - the cobalt coupe made my old '93 Toyota Paseo seem easy to get in the back of. If I didn't need a hatchback I would be all over the coupe...dang it's a sharp car! The optional Pioneer stereo has a spacious, open sound...much better than the Bose systems GM usually uses for premium sound, which I find tonally and dynamically constricted. They got the ergonomics right too. Lots of hard plastic, but no more so than the Focus (and higher-quality than the Focus, too). If they made the Cobalt available as a hatchback (a la the Opel Astra) the Cobalt lineup would be complete.
I would stay away from the E85 unless its a lot less than gas. With E85 you will most likely lose about 25% or more of your mileage. So your 21 MPG will drop to something like 15 MPG.
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sorry but .5 seconds is not a draw in fact .5 seconds is a lot in a 0-60 sprint if we were talking about a 3hr race then no .5 is not a big deal but in a race that only lasts between 4-5 sec it is huge
Also, while the CTS is priced about the same as a 3-series, isn't it really more apt to compare it to the 5-series? It's sized more like the 5, even if the price is more like the 3.
yeah id compare it to the 5 as well... if it were priced with the 5 but its not and im sure there were probly lots of comparisons between 85 caprice and camry done by the consumers, if they were the same price, which is kind of the same comparison being done here between the caddy and the m3, when im shopping for veichles i know how much i want to spend and i look at veichles in that price then i dont go and compare them to veichles that cost 30% more
Toyota is the manufacturer of choice for today and into the next decade.
M
That may be, however they are not starting off 2006 with a bang. If it were not for truck sales they would be lagging 2005 sales numbers. Their cars and SUVs are flat to negative sales figures.
"Toyota is the manufacturer of choice for the next decade"?
Hehe, sounds like a sound bite from a press release. Toyota is the manufacturer with the best business plan and the most money right now, might be what I'd say.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
For now
My first choice : Subaru - almost all I want at a very reasonable price; a few irritating idiosincracies and issues as it is a small company and cannot offer all the stuff I want
My second choice: Audi - all stuff I want, just too expensive to both purchase and maintain and reliability at best spotty
My third choice: BMW - see Audi
My forth choice: Mazda - good handling, great price, but recent IIHS tests show they have work to do on their lineup.
My fifth choice: Saab - very nice looks, nice features, but FWD does not make me lust them and of course reliability is an issue.
My sixth choice: Volvo - see Saab, except AWD is available, but it is not the kind I would want (not a Haldex fan).
2018 430i Gran Coupe
Sources like Consumer Reports for New Cars and Used Vehicles pretty much shows the reliability of the Toyota-Lexus line has been and continues to be the benchmark.
Not sure how much the price difference is between the Tacoma and the Colorado, but the Toyota on an average will last longer with less repair expense than the GM product, and when the wheels are ready to fall off and it is time for trade in there will be more value in the Toyota.
Toyota buys into Subaru as GM drops its share.
You may also want to look at the Mazda 5 Multipurpose
Vehicle. Doesn't have a 6 cyl, but has a lot of flexibility. Or the new Toyota Rav 4 that does have
the largest 6 cyl in class.
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TOKYO - Toyota has agreed to buy 8.7 percent of the shares General Motors holds in Japanese automaker Fuji Heavy Industries, Toyota and Fuji officials said Wednesday.
The purchase by Toyota Motor Corp. will make it the top shareholder in Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd., said Toyota Executive Vice President Mitsuo Kinoshita and Fuji Heavy President Kyoji Takenaka at a joint news conference.
Toyota will spend $310.5 million.
General Motors Corp. will sell its remaining 11.4 percent of Fuji, which makes Subaru cars, in the market.
GM and Fuji agreed to dissolve their alliance and capital relationship, the two officials said.
Toyota and Fuji are setting up a steering committee to try to reach an agreement on future collaboration as soon as possible, the companies said.
Toyota has been on a roll lately, boosting sales in North America, Europe and other parts of Asia and recording booming profits. GM, based in Detroit, has been in trouble, losing $1.1 billion in the first quarter.
GM and Toyota have a long-standing partnership to share environmental technology, and they run a car assembly plant in California together, although the ties do not involve holding stakes in each other.
Toyota Chairman Hiroshi Okuda has expressed worries lately about a possible political backlash from U.S. automakers because of Toyota's bright results at a time when GM and Ford are faltering.
He even suggested Toyota raise the price of car models in the United States. Toyota raised prices soon after, but denied the move was to placate U.S. automakers.
Toyota, based in central Japan's Toyota city, holds stakes in two Japanese automakers, Daihatsu Motor Co., which makes small cars, and Hino Motors, which makes trucks.
they survive. They are needed in the marketplace.
They have a large amount of short term cash and cash equivalent, that if they manage wisely can help them survive. Short term sale increases can evaporate very quickly.
They seem to have a better line up of current and future cars than Ford.
They are dragged down financially by a huge amount of expenses related to pensions and healthcare.
If auto work unions continue to insist on the pay levels for their workers in the future, Ford, Chrysler, and GM all three are in for some rocky times.
You can buy a fullsize Silverado for less than a Tacoma comparably equipped. My experience with 5 GM fullsize trucks is much more positive than the one 1994 Toyota PU truck I owned. Plus gas mileage is almost identical. Why Toyota cannot build a high mileage PU is beyond me. I have always had great resale with my Silverados.
In contrast, the Silverado 4.3/auto is 16/21, and even the 4.8 V-8 is 16/21! I think my old '85 Silverado 3.5/3-speed automatic is something like 14/16. I only WISH it did that well these days! :sick:
Identical? Either you had the very best trucks GM ever built or you had the very worst truck Toyota ever built.
Traditionally, GM trucks, at least the bigger ones, usually got very good fuel economy. The construction company my uncle works for would usually buy GMs because they got the best economy, and tended to be the most durable for their needs. When it came to smaller trucks they'd go with Toyota. I think one reason there though is that Toyota was the only maker to offer a small truck in the 1-ton series.
Toyota, Ford, GM and D/C are the current big 4. Competition is wonderful: it is unbelievable how much cars have improved in the last 10 years.
Toyota has kept the bar moving and the other companies now have very competitive vehicles to offer.
One dark horse in this race is Hyundai/Kia. They could be one of the big players within 5 years.
Wow, you did get the worst truck Toyota ever built. Something was seriously wrong with that one, unless you were riding around in 3rd gear hauling a bed full of gravel in it every day.
Yeah, back to cars...
I would concur. One could also make the argument that some Japanese car brands aren't what they used to be as well. But, this could also be said of a number of marques. Every company eventually tends to rest somewhat on their laurels.
Toyo is to Maytag as Buick is to youthful buyers :P