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Between that and Wawa that's most of my gas.
While in theory I'm not boycotting Citgo for all practical purposes I might as well be. Any of the local Citgos became Gettys (which is Russian Lukoil) and are now Gulf.
I guess if they were to do it today, they'd be delivered in cars.
My daughter's cell number also belonged to someone. She'd get calls and deny she was the guy but they'd keep calling. She was 14 or 15 at the time. They finally called when she was with me and it took conversations with two people before I convinced them my daughter was not the clown they were looking for.
As for being half-Italian... my dad is full-blooded and my mom is German, Scotch and Irish. I have a cousin who owns a deli and he sells mugs, buttons, etc. that say "Hug me I'm half-Italian." Mine is used as a pencil holder that's sitting right next to me.
I'm adding Getty to my do-not-buy-list :shades:
I have several e-mail addresses for just that reason. One is for personal e-mail, one is more public, for companies or entering drawings or on-line conversations (like this one!) or anything like that, one is joint with my husband for family stuff, and the last one, also joint with my husband, is used for on-line bill payments from utility companies. Seems like a lot, but this way I never overlook a bill, personal stuff doesn't get combined with on-line stuff, and so forth. Works out pretty well.
Reminds me of a scene in one of my favorite movies..."Goodfellas". Ray Liotta is meeting Lorraine Bracco (sp) Mother for the first time. Bracco is Jewish and she covers up Liotta's cross around his neck.
When the Mother comes to the door and inquires about Liotta's background as being 1/2 Jewish (which he wasn't), Liotta has a great comeback....."Only the good 1/2".
I haven't watched that movie in awhile. I may have to pop that in the old DVD player, tonight.
binaca....just as a general rule of thumb (don't know if it's true or not), that if you hit the email button at the bottom of spam messages that you want to "opt out", that tells the spammer that the email address is valid, and you'll receive even more spam.
I knew you would. That's why I put it there.
I believe that's only true, sometimes, for pop-up ads and the like. If you gave your e-mail to dealers or other legitimate businesses and they added you to their lists, it is easy to unsubscribe yourself, and you won't get any more spam because of that. Their computers will just automatically take you off the general list. No problem doing that.
Some might but I’d consider an email about a follow up purchase of a car as doing something because it’s the easy way out.
When I bought the Genny from the dealer in Ohio I got a call about a week later asking about how I liked the car. The sales guy acknowledged that he knew I wasn’t about to bring it in for service at his place but said if I had any problems going to the local dealer that I should give him a call and he have the local rep in my area take care of that kind of a problem. That was at least a good gesture on his part.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Yeah, I was always jealous of another cousin who was lucky to be 100% like you.
My poor mom... we kind of ignored the other half of our heritage. Of course, growing up watching TV shows like "Combat" didn't help with the German side of things.
I can still hear my dad sitting at the head of the table saying that he was the only "pure" one there. My mom shot back that there wasn't anything pure about him. We all got a chuckle out of that.
I named my son Mario and Ferrari remains his favorite car... go figure.
I got 2 or 3 calls a month on my second line for 14 years! The collection calls petered out after 2 or 3 years. Just recently dropped that line so the calls will finally stop.
What puzzles me is this; who has somebody's phone number and doesn't have the need to call it for 14 or more years?
Yes, but when we were kids they wrapped fish and chips in old newspapers and it makes them taste much better. In England they still do it...and it is the best fish and chips around...especially if they are in real newspapers.
Peeling 500 pounds of potatoes....oh, what a job. At least they are using real potatoes which aren't always available these days. Pre-formed, diecast, potatoes just aren't the same as the real thing.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
On the topic of Ethnicity, although both my wife and I are born here, we are 100% Estonian! :shades:
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It was a mutual admiration society. Ford was known for espousing anti-semitic beliefs and saw much to admire in Hitler and [non-permissible content removed] Germany.
On the other hand, my father attended an elementary school during the depression that received funding through Henry Ford. I think it was called something like the Greenfield Academy and there were dozens of schools like it spread out across southeastern MI. I guess in this day and age it would be called a "charter school", but some wealthy industrialists just picked up the slack where taxes no longer met public educational needs.
Gogiboy
Holy cow!! What a disaster. The do not call list has been a godsend here.
Where in NJ are you? When I was in college I was dating an Estonian woman for the better part of two years. At the time there were a ton of Estonians in Lakewood and Seabrook. She was one of the Seabrook ones. Lots of them had first names I'd never heard before. Hers was Kai. Had a sister Epp.
To keep on topic, when in negotiations for the price of the car, my wife and I will the offer in Estonian to each other. In fact, during a repeat purchase from a particular saleman, he mentioned, "I'd excuse myself to let you talk about this, but you know I won't understand a word you're saying".
This girl's dad didn't particularly like me and when I'd be down there if they started arguing they went right into Estonian. It might as well have been Martians talking!
Don't know about you but her folks were refugees from WWII and he wanted a place with fellow Estonians and Seabrook was one of those places. Worked in the frozen food factory.
I'm down at the shore. My brother is up in your current neck of the woods. He's in Denville.
Soon, you might be able to buy good old Canadian oil.........better be nice to us JM
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2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Well I know why, you weren't Estonian.
Yes, My parents fell into the same classification. In fact about 99% of the Estonians that migrated during that period were WWII refugees. My parents actually met at a DP camp in Germany and got married just before getting their visas to come here. Seabrook Farms Frozen Foods assembled a majority of their labor force this way. There were also the displaced Japanese Americans as well as other groups so Seabrook was small melting pot after WWII.
Speaking of talking in Martian, not too many of these groups spoke English very well at first and one of my favorite stories was that of my Grandmother yelling at a Japanese worker in German! There are tons more my parents have told me over the years.
Before moving from there, my father had worked his way up to a Managerial Position and my mother was a Forelady. Her picture was even in Life magazine in a spread they did about the Company. After my father became a Manager, he bought his first New car, a 1959 Pontiac Star Chief.
He told her he didn't like me because I was Jewish which I'm not though I told her if he wanted to dislike me for that it was fine with me.
Yeah, her parents met as they were fleeing with the Germans coming in one way and the Russians the other. Her mother had to watch without reacting as the Russians shipped her brother out to Siberia. Had she reacted she'd have been put on the same train. Her mother's father was executed by the Russians. Not pretty stories.
When I knew her you could go to church in Seabrook in any of three languages none of which was English. The Lutheran church had services in Estonian and German and the Buddhist temple in Japanese.
That whole company town seems to have been sold off and the ethnic mix is completely different.
Things ended ugly with that girl but I learned tons in the process. She was a Bridgeton High School grad.
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2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
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Yeh, it is so cool.......I had Verginie tell me in French "You are oh so hot and I am going to buy you a new Porche"
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
I thought I would be getting the next new car, as my 1999 Buick Regal LS has a little over 100,000 miles on it. Am I being "Jipped"? :sick:
Was she going to buy you a Porsche or a porch?
I am not sure, I made her say it in French! Maybe I'll try German! Yes, I did, I tried it with Karla in German and it was definitely Porshe as in Porsha!
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2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
If so, you must have a guy who works for 5.00 per hour!
If so, you must have a guy who works for 5.00 per hour!
Close... this guy worked for free. :shades: I put the idle air control valve and fan control module in myself. On the MPV they are fairly simple DIY'ers. The sway bar links are priced thru the dealership including labor. I believe the links are only about $25 a piece on the MPV. So, on that I get to pay the normal $120 an hour for labor. :sick:
I don't know how the ole "switch er roo" worked. Only seemed a few months ago we were talking about a new(er) car for me. We could swing two cars at the same time financially, but as everyone knows, I'm too cheap for that.
Well after a few phone calls and several hours they find my bike on the store floor for sale. :surprise:
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
It's girl magic. Very closely related to girl math, like when she makes a brown bag lunch for you to take to work, so you jointly can save enough money for her to stop at Starbucks for coffee.
Powerful stuff, that girl magic. Do not mess with it. :shades:
Just be very careful if you ever call on someone to paint your porch. You may end up with a coat of Dutch Boy on your precious Porsche! (sorry - I couldn't resist!)
tidester, host
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That's basic math. The magic comes in when you parlay the brown bag lunch for a new wardrobe or a complete set of new furniture. Don't ask me how I know.
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Before you can use the Jipst method for buying a new car......you need to write a book on the Jipst Method for "Getting the wife, to Let Me Buy a New Car". That could be tougher than grinding it out with the salesman. Actually, that might make a good topic here. Other related topics include, "How to Get a New Car without having to Buy a Ton of Furniture".
Personally, I think 100000 miles trumps 75000 miles. My wife and I bought our cars at the same time, but I try to use mine a little more, so next time, I can get a new one first.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
It is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.
A close corallary: Divorce is expensive.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The caller, a grandmother, was planning to buy her grandson, who had just turned 16, a brand new car. Her new car price ceiling was $25K. She was calling the Cartalk boys because every car she recommended was met with a disdainful response from the grandson that it was a "chick car". The one car mentioned was a Mini Cooper S.
I can appreciate that the grandmother wants to do something nice for her grandson, but a $25K new car for a kid who has just received his license? A 3-6 year old used sedan, with reasonably up-to-date safety features would probably better survive the barrage of parking lot kisses, backed into signs and fender benders incurred while texting or chatting with friends.
The grandson sounds like a total ingrate--and not deserving on any car, let alone a brand new one. Who looks a $25K gift horse in the mouth?
I know that I sound like a middle-aged curmudgeon and that we've looked at this same issue from a slightly different perspective in earlier posts, but it begs the question, who is the bigger idiot here?
Choice A: Grannie-- who has more money than sense.
Choice B: Grandson, who isn't able to grasp that getting a new car at 16 is not an inalienable right.
Choice C: Grandma & Grandson are equally misguided and both need a reality check.
Gogiboy
ps. Click and Clack did not take Grannie to task, instead they recommended a Honda Element as a less chick-like alternative to the Cooper S.
pps. Why does the Edmunds forums spell-check dictionary want me to replace "curmudgeon" with "carmudgeon". Is that what we become when we vent through our forum posts?
The kid doesn't know any better, because he has grannie for an example... who is willing to drop $25K for a 16-yr-old's car.. I don't see holding him up to an adult standard that isn't being modeled for him. I'd also blame Mom or Dad.. but, of course, maybe they live with a sense of entitlement from grannie, as well...
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2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
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I'll have hard working parents bring their little darlings on the lot with, say, a 10,000 budget. I'll try to steerr them toward simething sensible but my choices rarely please.
They won't like the color or the way the tailights look or something.
I did hear one dad tell his little Prima Donna..." When you mmake the payments, you can buy whatever you like!"
She pouted but they bought the used Civic instead of the trouble prome VW Beetle whe really wanted.
I can see the light is beginning to dawn for you.
Not that she asked me - but I'd vote that it makes more sense to let him drive the family car for a couple years. Remind the kid that it's a privilege, not a right. Grades have to be kept up, he needs to chip in for gas and the increased cost of insurance to add him as driver, etc., etc. If he shows responsibility with that, then consider giving him a sensible car when he goes to college, maybe.
Better yet, when he graduates from college.
I'm in the old curmudgeon camp myself, apparently.
I'm happy to say that most of the people on Edmunds whose opinions I respect think kids should work for what they get. If granny were willing to match (or even give him 2 for 1) his own contribution to the car, I'd be a whole lot more supportive.
In the C & C broadcast (I listened to it yesterday blasting south from Montreal to Boston) it came out that she'd just dropped $80K or so or some Mercedes or other -- she's clearly got money to burn.