What's unfortunate is that some stores will keep employees like this around (racist manager, or someone who's an a-hole to other staff) just because they're brining in the money for the store.
What's unfortunate is that some stores will keep employees like this around
Won't it catch up with them when they have a lawsuit filed? Also, won't that group of people who were offended want to shop somewhere else? These days, it is dangerous for companies to keep employees who harass or make bigoted remarks. These guys might have been big earners, but companies can't afford to have them around.
Not sure what you, roadburner and the other BMW enthusiasts will think of this, but I saw a late 80s to early 90s Ford Tempo today--itself remarkable given what a horrible car the Tempo was--that had a BMW symbol glued on the rear trunk along with the identifying Ford symbols. I found it pretty funny. I could even morally support the parents who bought junior that particular "BMW" as a first car. Talk about child abuse!
Why keep both company symbols? Maybe I should stick a Ferrari horse on my Mazda3. Think it will fool anyone?
my favorite is the Volvo yellow stickers. At a glance, looks like the yellow Ferrari prancing horse triangles, but instead of the horse, I think it features a moose.
90s Ford Tempo today--itself remarkable given what a horrible car the Tempo was--that had a BMW symbol glued on the rear trunk
Gogi, That boy will probably be a huge success. He is driving a crappy Tempo (and has somehow kept it going), but aspires or at least imagines he is driving a BMW. I'd place a bet on him becoming successful one day, opposed to the kid with the BMW M.
Reminds me of what we used to do in the summer...when only a few cars had air conditioning. I drove my mothers Corvair around on a 90 degree day, with all the windows up acting like we were nice and cool because of the air conditioner. We were sweating our butts off, but we made a big impression.
Because of our vehicles heritage - and the lodge design of our LR Centres - we used to wear cargos and outdoor clothing all the time to work. We still do on occasion, but with the Jaguar people mostly in charge our dress is more upscale these days.
I've been to that dealership a couple times in the past. The Oxmoor group of dealerships is one that seems to put profit above everything else. I'm sure this one will be all over the papers for awhile. :sick:
If the Oxmoor dealer has the ability to rile even the" Jipster",they must be a really sleazy dealership !! B`cos to take on or negotiate with Jipster--you must be a real tough cookie !! :P
I don't know about the golf club, but convertible pants are great for hiking. If you start off in the morning when it's cool, keep the legs on. As the day warms, zip them off & go with the shorts. You get the practicality of 2 pairs of pants but the weight and bulk of just one; important when you're trying to minimize what you're carrying.
I bought my first pair last year before going to Hawaii. We were going on a rain forest hike where the temp varied from morning to afternoon. It can be quite chilly when you start off.
I bought my first pair last year before going to Hawaii. We were going on a rain forest hike
That is a beautiful spot. Did you do these things?
Swim and jump (optional) into large pools under any of the falls. Rope swing from a giant banyan tree into one of the large pools. Play Tarzan on another rope swinging straight across the 40-foot falls
I agree, convertible cargo pants are an ingenius invention. I still like the extra pockets just for travelling. I don't care too much if I look like a dork if it prevents my wallet and documents getting stolen. One friend had a wallet stolen in Chile, another had his stolen in Italy. I hate when that happens...trying to replace documents.
Just to stay on topic my wife got me a great looking BMW waterproof, windproof windbreaker for my birthday. I wasn't too sure at first because it has a BMW emblem on the front, but it's pretty small, you would really have to look up close to make it out. It cost almost as much as a used car. It's really a yaughting jacket, I hope I get the yaught next year.
Do other brands offer clothing and watches etc. Jeep, Rover, Lexus, Hyundai?
Not only do all stand alone LR dealers have the rock displays (we have 2) they also have the off road track we use on demo drives to show the unique capability and safety of the vehicles. It is a great place to people watch especially when we do the 36 degree side tilt. LR, like most brands, have a gear catalog and a retail area in the dealerships.
You have shown that BMW here before. It is one of the few BMW's that I ever liked---a little boxy which I love. Though the Porsche is really sharp, I hate to see you give up that BMW. It's a beautiful car and you own such a classic. Regardless, best wishes in finding what you want.
I agree. How many vile things do you say to your best buddies in jest? If you work with someone for a long time and become familiar with them you could easily say something in jest that could make you look like a real jerk if taken out of context. You have to be very careful in the workplace these days.
. It is a great place to people watch especially when we do the 36 degree side tilt. LR, like most brands,
degree side tilt Those words got cut off on the post, so I was curious what the 36 had said. Those rocks are a great idea...that alone would bring me into the showroom. I have never seen the rocks in Canada.
So, it sounds like browsers can try the cars right on the rocks. What a great selling idea.
I thought I was going to get another SUV when I was trading in my X3. I sat in an LR2 and I really liked the feel of it. Everything inside is very square....dash, door panels, armrests etc. And, I like the big windows and the high seating. I would have put it on my final list, then I thought I needed a more fun retirement car.
In this area we've seen several of this kind of allegation made by individuals. In some cases it's someone who didn't get a promotion they may not have been qualified for and they decide they will retaliate and hope to get what they want in a promotion or compansation. We have Wright Patternson Air Force Base here and that kind of publicity occured for them and we have some government facilities where allegations made get lots of publicity from the local lame stream media.
In many cases, the proponents were encouraged by groups that come in and threaten financial and legal support.
A Miami University event where posters negative toward blacks were placed around campus. After lots of inflamatory rhetoric, it was found a black student active with the student newsaper was the one who made and distributed the posters. I can't find an internet link to this Miami University event. But as a graduate of Miami's grad school, I found this not too plausible when it happened. Miami is rather laid back. In the 70s people doing Freedom Rides to Mississipi were based in Oxford.
The actions alleged in the auto dealership is nothing we would have tolerated at our workplace. However, sometimes things were done that were based on stereotypes of majority folks that we just as distasteful. So my position was always to wait for the "rest of the story" as the old time news commentator used to say, Paul Harvey! Sometimes both sides were bad news.
As a group all of those things except the Tarzan swing was done. Personally, we swam but declined the rope jump. I'm not a strong swimmer & my wife is both afraid of heights & has weak arm strength. The water was pretty cold and, coming straight off a fall, had a decent current to it.
The hike was more strenuous than we thought, as it included a couple of rock face climbs and wading down a creek in chest-high water. Most of the walk was on narrow paths; maybe 5% would have been wide enough to navigate a vehicle through.
The area is actually a private farm, but you'd never know it to take a look. They plant a variety of things from coffee beans & guava to bananas and bamboo. Plants are randomly placed, or at least it appeared as such, so you never saw rows of fruit trees like you would at, say, a Florida orange grove or a Michigan apple orchard. We were free to pluck ripe fruit from any tree but told to avoid anything that had fallen on the ground as it would probably be infested with fruit flies.
If anyone is venturing to Maui I'd recommend the tour group. The people are very friendly and knowledgeable and they supply most everything you need from appropriate shoes to lunch & a backpack. Prices aren't bad, either, considering the relatively small group sizes they maintain.
I was just checking my email on AOL and found this rather interesting article--Dealers killed online car buying -""Whatever Happened To Buying A New Car In Your Pajamas?"" :P
Well I don't agree with the writer at all. He probably did not hear of Ebay for new car sales... The article mentions that Ebay is only for used car sales.. Really--that is such outdated info. Cannot believe a reputed site like AOL is giving inaccurate,old info.They should be doing more research before posting.You most certainly can buy a new car online from Ebay and in your Pajamas !! Sheesh !!
And Edmunds gets a mention in the article !!
As an example I am posting this link for a new Landrover from Ebay that can be bought online -shipped to your house . LRguy and BritishRover will be happy for listing a Landrover !! :shades:
The article highlights buying cars online DIRECT from the manufacturer not negotiating a price from a retail dealer. Big difference. You can still buy a car in your jammies and save money through research and contacting several dealerships.
After roadburner posted a photo of his BMW 2002 I checked some out on eBay and I realized that the kid with the Tempo incorporating the BMW badging may be more of a fan and aficionado than I realized. He had the rear BMW badge off center and to the right, just like the 2002s on eBay. I just thought he was was making a kind of anti-establishment or anti conspicuous consumption statement.
Does anyone know whether using off center rear logos was a common practice back in the 70s and how long the practice lasted? Were there other brands that used the same practice? That asymmetry really appeals to me.
If the African America salesman's claim is true, it is a terrible thing to happen in the 21st Century. Unfortunately, there will always be a few who are prejudiced against many types of people---minorities, women, gays, religious denominations, etc.
If, on the other hand, the claim is false, then a great deal of damage has been done to the accused. I recall a school principal who was accused by a minority faculty member of being racially harassed. Knowing this principal for many years, I was deeply disappointed in him at first. As it turned out, the principal had been baited into making remarks in jest. The minority faculty member would make racial comments about the principal and laugh heartedly each time. The principal would jokingly come back with a similar remark. All was fine until the teacher received a less than superior annual evaluation. He then turned on the principal with the racial accusations. Because there had been wittnesses to some of the jesting earlier, the principal was cleared of the accusations.
The sad part was that the principal withdrew from his faculty, became untrusting, turned paranoid, and was finally non-renewed as the principal of that school. He took early retirement and now owns a used car lot. (Please, no jokes here.) I stopped by to see him about four years ago. He is so like the great guy that I remembered. He shared with me that he had found peace and happiness, though he missed the world of education. He has a good business---treats customers fairly, has an excellent mechanic, and maintains a lot filled with very nice late model cars.
What happened to the minority teacher? He was transferred to another school. The local board was afraid to pursue termination. Tenure is a tough code to crack. As we all know, life isn't fair and justice isn't always served. Still, I believe that people will answer for their transgressions in the end.
Other brands do offer an array of nice accessories. My niece just returned from design school in Italy. She loves her one and only uncle. For my birthday, she gave me a beautiful Ferrari fountain pen encased in a bright yellow case with a metal band around it. Within the case is the yellow fountain pen plus several ink cartridges and a certificate of authenticity. The fountain pen also comes in red. She knows that yellow is my favorite color.
She says that she will buy me the car to match the fountain pen when she makes her first $5 million. I told her to hurry.
The reason that direct car buying online from the manufacturer hasn't happened is because most people need to see and test drive something to see if they like it or not. You can't feel the controls, buttons, or see the blindspots if buying a car online.
And cars are not like a book or shoes that you can return, so if you make a mistake and buy a wrong car, it'll be a very costly mistake.
Yes, my bad !! Should have read it more thoroughly.. The joke is on me here ! :P
As you said , this was supposed to be from the maker directly bypassing the dealer. That I think will never ever happen. Even if you buy cars online,it would be from a dealer. Still I guess , a lot of folks like to check out a car in person-- touch it,feel it, experience it before buying+ getting their finances ready -- similar to selecting a wife -- Also you make a mistake in either case ,you are stuck and cannot return without hefty penalties or Bankruptcy !! To be taken in the fun spirit -- Many guys here have fabulous spouses !!! :shades:
new Landrover from Ebay that can be bought online -shipped to your house
How do you like the $10k paint on that car. The Autobiography is a loaded limited edition. I have one in Black (a $400 color) that lists (and will sell) for $89k. Yes it is from a dealer, not the factory.If he sells it to a customer in another dealer's territory he will suffer loss af his back end business builder. So, there is a MSRP or above car. Little or no negotiaton. Still at 0 bids.
The track has a 36 degree side tilt portion that we drive customers over. It is the most dramatic obsticle on the course and has sold a lot of vehicles.
Boom said> cars are not like a book or shoes that you can return, so if you make a mistake and buy a wrong car, it'll be a very costly mistake.
I have to ask here about the Ford "tryout" cars. The commercial says you can get a couple weeks or some time period to see if you like their car better than what you're currently driving.
How are they sold if they are rejected by the "tryout" driver?
Asymmetry (that's a new word for me but I know what you mean) appeals to me. Volvos use it on their grills and I think they still do on some models...with a bar on the diagonal. There was a Neon model with a larger engine that had the hood bumped up on one side only.
I think some Fiats had off centre badges and key holes.
I remember I was leasing a 79 car and one I was considering was a Firebird. When I looked at the trunk the factory had put the Firebird symbol on the trunk about 8 inches off centre. It made me lose confidence in the whole car...ended up with a Cutlass instead.
(P.S. That thought went through my mind too, the kid could have been making an anti-establishment statement by putting a BMW badge on a Tempo, sounds like something I would have done in my teens, but I would not be proud of it today)
You are so correct. When I trained new teachers, they always wanted to know the details of acquiring tenure. I would tell them that if they did a good job, acted professionally, and conducted themselves in a moral and ethical manner, then they wouldn't need to be concerned about tenure. In North Carolina it takes three years to acquire tenure. I used to caution the principals to keep good records and non-renew the "bad seeds" before the end of the third year. Did they follow my advice? Not very often. Why? There were too many cousins, nephews, and friends of the family to be retained. :sick: :mad:
Thanks. She knows about my love affair with cars. A black Grand Marquis pen? That IS funny!
Not related but interesting: I saw a movie yesterday entitled It Happened to You with Peter Lawford and Jack Lemmon. Lawford's character had just purchased a new 1956 Jag. Lemmon's character asked how much it set him back. Lawford's character said it was $5K. Can you imagine? Times and prices have certainly changed.
Back in the days when I was a very young manager for Sears, they had a policy that made it almost impossible to terminate anyone once they had ten years under their belt.
If they happened to be a woman or a minority it took so much effort and trouble that it might as well have been impossible.
Besides this they had a lot of benefits that kept the unions out and that's exactly what they wanted.
As a result, they had a lot of slackers that we couldn't get rid of.
Tenure is the same thing. Looking back, I had a number of "teachers" that didn't deserve the title.
I've never been in that position. I have always had to produce and I was taught at an early age.." Yesterday's hits won't win today's ballgames"
>they wouldn't need to be concerned about tenure. In
I am not certain of how tenure helps protect teachers in North Carolina, but I am aware in Ohio. Without tenure, the teachers would be replaced to make room for relatives, friends, coaches, that the district wished to employ. After all, coaching is the most important job a school district has; the athletics are more important than the academics. What do some people think the buildings are there for? Educating people or getting athletic scholarships?
The school boards and administration in the district would even more rapidly fill the jobs with their buds.
Let me give a recent example from our Ohio district. To cut costs due to state funding decreases, the district decided to cut some positions. They are including any teacher who was retired and then rehired. HOWEVER, the superintendent wanted to do away with the 80% of administration who is a retiree who has been rehired within the district. The school board overruled the young superintendent, who is very effective.
Example, one of the top administrators retired years ago and continued working at their position. The students never saw the person even though it was a student contact position because most effort went into athletics, including lots of contact with the Columbus office. This person had a Tiger Woods type indiscretion which many were aware might be happening in his office. I heard from a previous school employee who actually observed one of the events during school hours. Divorce followed. That person is now in an even higher office within the district at an even higher pay while collecting the excessive retirement pay since he was an administrator the last years while paying in.
Once he became an administrator he was no longer on tenure, but he wasn't dismissed. Is tenure the problem? Or is it school management? Oh, for those saying it was just an indiscretion, it was another school employee, who is now a superintendent in a distant district.
Tenure is not the problem. Proper management by administration and school boards is the problem.
Tenure is not the problem. Proper management by administration and school boards is the problem.
Sorry, Keith, but I disagree. (As I've said elsewhere, I'm married to a retired public school teacher.)
Tenure only makes management's job more difficult. If I had my way, most public employees (including, but not limited to, teachers) would work under 3 to 5 year contracts. When the contract ran out, the employing agency could simply exercise its lawful option not to renew.
I would reserve lifetime tenure exclusively for people who do controversial but necessary work -- top-level appeals court judges, for example.
Incidentally, I enjoyed lifetime tenure myself as a Federal employee back in the 1970s. Most of my colleagues were hard workers, but one was simply horrendous: lazy, incompetent, rude -- you name it. One manager spent so much time trying without success to fire "Arnie" that he - the manager - took a hit on his own performance review.
After that, senior management resorted to encouraging "Arnie" to volunteer for jury duty as often as he wanted to. (Ironically, I once found myself in the same jury pool as "Arnie" in the late 1980s. The judge excused me after I told him that I would punch "Arnie's" lights out if I had to serve with him.)
>As I've said elsewhere, I'm married to a retired public school teacher.)
Yup, same here. That's how I'm so conversant about the ins and outs of the schools in Ohio. Your experience may vary.
I'm on the side that management will use the available jobs for their own MCI Friends and Family job source. Also as the teachers gain experience in this state, the salary scale, negotiated, increases their pay with that expertise increase. Replacing a 20 year teacher with a young friend or relative just graduated from college and having trouble finding an elementary teaching job saves some cash for the district. More money to spend on the upper management six-digit pay rates.
Or they can replace a quality experienced teacher with a coach for the basketball team.
Most of the hatred toward tenure among people comes from the treatment of same in the media. They will poll that tenure is bad for all those other schools around the state in general. But when asked about particular schools in their district, such as where their children went to school, they feel the teachers are fine. It's the media halo effect.
So tenure is often bad in the instances where it hits the media, such as a case of sexual contact between a teacher and student; seldom is tenure mentioned as to how the administration (see my previous example) wanted to put a coach candidate into a job as a perk. Did I mention that the athletics-oriented administrator put two high-profile athletic people into jobs just because he knew of them and they were "important." Two of them have embarrassed the district with high profile exposed cases of sexual shenanigans in the past few years. The media coverage dragged out for months. But they were important because they had college sports reputations, and people thought that meant our team in the same sport would be better because of their coaching.
Tenure is still necessary to protect people from unfair dismissal, changes in job positions, and other ways administrations can try to open a position for no professional reason.
Tenure is still necessary to protect people from unfair dismissal, changes in job positions, and other ways administrations can try to open a position for no professional reason.
In the private sector you can be dismissed pretty much any time at your employers discretion. The at will employment rule.
It has gotten so that when you turn 50 you might as well pack your bags, especially if you have been successful and have a well paying job. There should be a happy medium somewhere there between the two extremes.
Richard -- of course if there was a good teacher up for tenure in a job that the schoolboard members daughter wanted -- adios amigo. The tenure laws were based on the need to protect teachers from school boards who would get rid of older unconnected teachers irrespective of competency. Keeping your job was based on politics not teaching prowess. Put the problems with tenure where it belongs -- on the ELECTED school board and nepotism.
We went to see The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo at the show last night. The movie was made in Sweden and has sub-titles, but the story, the acting, and the whole movie are ingenius.
Before the show started there were 10 second commercials, one with hotdogs running down the street, one with two adults in bed when the husband comes home, one with two guys in a Smart Car and the driver starts punching the passenger in the head. After each commercial it said go to smartclass.com.
So when I got home I did. Go to Canada - English.
Pan the sidewalk scene and press the orange buttons to get these scenes.
It is wierd, but I guess that is the new advertising. smart-class.com
I just don't believe in worthless people being protected by tenure or because they happen to belong to a union
I am with you isell. I have seen it in the school system and in a union at work. The union situation was ironical, the brothers and sisters would go to the union meeting together. But, when the outside workers (truck drivers) go on strike the inside workers (mostly women) are crying because they need their pay.
And even more ironical, management has to fill in so the company can stay in business. :mad:
To our friends, posters, and lurkers in the Nashville area:
Our thoughts and prayers are with you. After trying all morning, we finally reached our good friends in Nashville. Water is now flowing under their house but hasn't yet reached the front porch. It is still pouring rain but is expected to end tonight. So many people have been hard hit. Let's remember one of our regulars here---Joel.
To all of you who posted comments about tenure: Each of you made wise and valid points.
Tenure is a problem---becoming lazy because they can hide behind a law.
Management is a problem---hiring friends instead of talent
School boards are a problem---building stadiums instead of classrooms.
The public is a problem---for allowing any of it to happen.
Equitable salary scales are a problem---paying teachers much less than administrators. After 28 years in the classroom, I finally made it to $60K with a graduate degree and bonuses for having high student test scores. When I walked into my new office at the board of education, my salary jumped to $75K in the first two years. When I left twelve years later, my salary was at $95K. My immediate boss, who had me do his job, made $120K. His boss made $150K. The big boss, my superintendent, was right at $200K. Though I worked long hours and never slacked off, I don't think that I earned $95K compared to my years in the classroom. Why did I leave the classroom? I had to consider my pension and my Social Security. Those last 12 years meant so much to our financial security.
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http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100429/NEWS01/4290348/1008/Salesman+sue- s+Oxmoor+Toyota+for+harassment
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And as convertibles, just like some cars
Wow! Very nice. Richard will be the fashion guru at the golf club!
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Won't it catch up with them when they have a lawsuit filed? Also, won't that group of people who were offended want to shop somewhere else? These days, it is dangerous for companies to keep employees who harass or make bigoted remarks.
These guys might have been big earners, but companies can't afford to have them around.
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Not sure what you, roadburner and the other BMW enthusiasts will think of this, but I saw a late 80s to early 90s Ford Tempo today--itself remarkable given what a horrible car the Tempo was--that had a BMW symbol glued on the rear trunk along with the identifying Ford symbols. I found it pretty funny. I could even morally support the parents who bought junior that particular "BMW" as a first car. Talk about child abuse!
Why keep both company symbols? Maybe I should stick a Ferrari horse on my Mazda3. Think it will fool anyone?
Gogiboy
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Gogi, That boy will probably be a huge success. He is driving a crappy Tempo (and has somehow kept it going), but aspires or at least imagines he is driving a BMW. I'd place a bet on him becoming successful one day, opposed to the kid with the BMW M.
Reminds me of what we used to do in the summer...when only a few cars had air conditioning. I drove my mothers Corvair around on a 90 degree day, with all the windows up acting like we were nice and cool because of the air conditioner. We were sweating our butts off, but we made a big impression.
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group of dealerships is one that seems to put profit above everything
else. I'm sure this one will be all over the papers for awhile. :sick:
B`cos to take on or negotiate with Jipster--you must be a real tough cookie !! :P
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I remember seeing a Rover dealer in Portland Maine and they had some Rovers parked on big rocks next to the showroom. Looked great. Did you have that?
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I bought my first pair last year before going to Hawaii. We were going on a rain forest hike where the temp varied from morning to afternoon. It can be quite chilly when you start off.
That is a beautiful spot. Did you do these things?
Swim and jump (optional) into large pools under any of the falls.
Rope swing from a giant banyan tree into one of the large pools.
Play Tarzan on another rope swinging straight across the 40-foot falls
I agree, convertible cargo pants are an ingenius invention. I still like the extra pockets just for travelling. I don't care too much if I look like a dork if it prevents my wallet and documents getting stolen. One friend had a wallet stolen in Chile, another had his stolen in Italy. I hate when that happens...trying to replace documents.
Just to stay on topic my wife got me a great looking BMW waterproof, windproof windbreaker for my birthday. I wasn't too sure at first because it has a BMW emblem on the front, but it's pretty small, you would really have to look up close to make it out. It cost almost as much as a used car. It's really a yaughting jacket, I hope I get the yaught next year.
Do other brands offer clothing and watches etc. Jeep, Rover, Lexus, Hyundai?
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Richard
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degree side tilt Those words got cut off on the post, so I was curious what the 36 had said. Those rocks are a great idea...that alone would bring me into the showroom. I have never seen the rocks in Canada.
So, it sounds like browsers can try the cars right on the rocks. What a great selling idea.
I thought I was going to get another SUV when I was trading in my X3. I sat in an LR2 and I really liked the feel of it. Everything inside is very square....dash, door panels, armrests etc. And, I like the big windows and the high seating. I would have put it on my final list, then I thought I needed a more fun retirement car.
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In many cases, the proponents were encouraged by groups that come in and threaten financial and legal support.
A Miami University event where posters negative toward blacks were placed around campus. After lots of inflamatory rhetoric, it was found a black student active with the student newsaper was the one who made and distributed the posters. I can't find an internet link to this Miami University event. But as a graduate of Miami's grad school, I found this not too plausible when it happened. Miami is rather laid back. In the 70s people doing Freedom Rides to Mississipi were based in Oxford.
The actions alleged in the auto dealership is nothing we would have tolerated at our workplace. However, sometimes things were done that were based on stereotypes of majority folks that we just as distasteful. So my position was always to wait for the "rest of the story" as the old time news commentator used to say, Paul Harvey! Sometimes both sides were bad news.
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The hike was more strenuous than we thought, as it included a couple of rock face climbs and wading down a creek in chest-high water. Most of the walk was on narrow paths; maybe 5% would have been wide enough to navigate a vehicle through.
The area is actually a private farm, but you'd never know it to take a look. They plant a variety of things from coffee beans & guava to bananas and bamboo. Plants are randomly placed, or at least it appeared as such, so you never saw rows of fruit trees like you would at, say, a Florida orange grove or a Michigan apple orchard. We were free to pluck ripe fruit from any tree but told to avoid anything that had fallen on the ground as it would probably be infested with fruit flies.
If anyone is venturing to Maui I'd recommend the tour group. The people are very friendly and knowledgeable and they supply most everything you need from appropriate shoes to lunch & a backpack. Prices aren't bad, either, considering the relatively small group sizes they maintain.
http://autos.aol.com/article/online-car-shopping-decline/
Well I don't agree with the writer at all. He probably did not hear of Ebay for new car sales... The article mentions that Ebay is only for used car sales.. Really--that is such outdated info. Cannot believe a reputed site like AOL is giving inaccurate,old info.They should be doing more research before posting.You most certainly can buy a new car online from Ebay and in your Pajamas !! Sheesh !!
And Edmunds gets a mention in the article !!
As an example I am posting this link for a new Landrover from Ebay that can be bought online -shipped to your house . LRguy and BritishRover will be happy for listing a Landrover !! :shades:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2010-RANGE-ROVER-AUTOBIOGRAPHY-YELLOW-FACTORY-PAI- NT-/120563167512?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1c121ff118
Well, any sale is at least 18 months out; who knows?
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After roadburner posted a photo of his BMW 2002 I checked some out on eBay and I realized that the kid with the Tempo incorporating the BMW badging may be more of a fan and aficionado than I realized. He had the rear BMW badge off center and to the right, just like the 2002s on eBay. I just thought he was was making a kind of anti-establishment or anti conspicuous consumption statement.
Does anyone know whether using off center rear logos was a common practice back in the 70s and how long the practice lasted? Were there other brands that used the same practice? That asymmetry really appeals to me.
Gogiboy
Be careful what you hope for. If your household is like mine the cost of that will be taken from your allowance. :sick:
Do other brands offer clothing and watches etc. Jeep, Rover, Lexus, Hyundai?
Probably but who the HELL would wear a Hyundai shirt? :surprise: I'm sure you're on your way to Google right now. :P
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Richard
If, on the other hand, the claim is false, then a great deal of damage has been done to the accused. I recall a school principal who was accused by a minority faculty member of being racially harassed. Knowing this principal for many years, I was deeply disappointed in him at first. As it turned out, the principal had been baited into making remarks in jest. The minority faculty member would make racial comments about the principal and laugh heartedly each time. The principal would jokingly come back with a similar remark. All was fine until the teacher received a less than superior annual evaluation. He then turned on the principal with the racial accusations. Because there had been wittnesses to some of the jesting earlier, the principal was cleared of the accusations.
The sad part was that the principal withdrew from his faculty, became untrusting, turned paranoid, and was finally non-renewed as the principal of that school. He took early retirement and now owns a used car lot. (Please, no jokes here.) I stopped by to see him about four years ago. He is so like the great guy that I remembered. He shared with me that he had found peace and happiness, though he missed the world of education. He has a good business---treats customers fairly, has an excellent mechanic, and maintains a lot filled with very nice late model cars.
What happened to the minority teacher? He was transferred to another school. The local board was afraid to pursue termination. Tenure is a tough code to crack. As we all know, life isn't fair and justice isn't always served. Still, I believe that people will answer for their transgressions in the end.
Richard
She says that she will buy me the car to match the fountain pen when she makes her first $5 million. I told her to hurry.
Richard
And cars are not like a book or shoes that you can return, so if you make a mistake and buy a wrong car, it'll be a very costly mistake.
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As you said , this was supposed to be from the maker directly bypassing the dealer. That I think will never ever happen. Even if you buy cars online,it would be from a dealer. Still I guess , a lot of folks like to check out a car in person-- touch it,feel it, experience it before buying+ getting their finances ready -- similar to selecting a wife -- Also you make a mistake in either case ,you are stuck and cannot return without hefty penalties or Bankruptcy !!
How do you like the $10k paint on that car. The Autobiography is a loaded limited edition. I have one in Black (a $400 color) that lists (and will sell) for $89k. Yes it is from a dealer, not the factory.If he sells it to a customer in another dealer's territory he will suffer loss af his back end business builder. So, there is a MSRP or above car. Little or no negotiaton. Still at 0 bids.
I have to ask here about the Ford "tryout" cars. The commercial says you can get a couple weeks or some time period to see if you like their car better than what you're currently driving.
How are they sold if they are rejected by the "tryout" driver?
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Yes, it is and that's why it should go away.
Asymmetry (that's a new word for me but I know what you mean) appeals to me. Volvos use it on their grills and I think they still do on some models...with a bar on the diagonal. There was a Neon model with a larger engine that had the hood bumped up on one side only.
I think some Fiats had off centre badges and key holes.
I remember I was leasing a 79 car and one I was considering was a Firebird. When I looked at the trunk the factory had put the Firebird symbol on the trunk about 8 inches off centre. It made me lose confidence in the whole car...ended up with a Cutlass instead.
(P.S. That thought went through my mind too, the kid could have been making an anti-establishment statement by putting a BMW badge on a Tempo, sounds like something I would have done in my teens, but I would not be proud of it today)
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She sounds very creative to thought of such a unique gift. I was going to get you a black Grand Marquis pen....if available.
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Richard
Not related but interesting: I saw a movie yesterday entitled It Happened to You with Peter Lawford and Jack Lemmon. Lawford's character had just purchased a new 1956 Jag. Lemmon's character asked how much it set him back. Lawford's character said it was $5K. Can you imagine? Times and prices have certainly changed.
Richard
If they happened to be a woman or a minority it took so much effort and trouble that it might as well have been impossible.
Besides this they had a lot of benefits that kept the unions out and that's exactly what they wanted.
As a result, they had a lot of slackers that we couldn't get rid of.
Tenure is the same thing. Looking back, I had a number of "teachers" that didn't deserve the title.
I've never been in that position. I have always had to produce and I was taught at an early age.." Yesterday's hits won't win today's ballgames"
I am not certain of how tenure helps protect teachers in North Carolina, but I am aware in Ohio. Without tenure, the teachers would be replaced to make room for relatives, friends, coaches, that the district wished to employ. After all, coaching is the most important job a school district has; the athletics are more important than the academics. What do some people think the buildings are there for? Educating people or getting athletic scholarships?
The school boards and administration in the district would even more rapidly fill the jobs with their buds.
Let me give a recent example from our Ohio district. To cut costs due to state funding decreases, the district decided to cut some positions. They are including any teacher who was retired and then rehired. HOWEVER, the superintendent wanted to do away with the 80% of administration who is a retiree who has been rehired within the district. The school board overruled the young superintendent, who is very effective.
Example, one of the top administrators retired years ago and continued working at their position. The students never saw the person even though it was a student contact position because most effort went into athletics, including lots of contact with the Columbus office. This person had a Tiger Woods type indiscretion which many were aware might be happening in his office. I heard from a previous school employee who actually observed one of the events during school hours. Divorce followed. That person is now in an even higher office within the district at an even higher pay while collecting the excessive retirement pay since he was an administrator the last years while paying in.
Once he became an administrator he was no longer on tenure, but he wasn't dismissed. Is tenure the problem? Or is it school management? Oh, for those saying it was just an indiscretion, it was another school employee, who is now a superintendent in a distant district.
Tenure is not the problem. Proper management by administration and school boards is the problem.
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Is this what you had in mind?
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Sorry, Keith, but I disagree. (As I've said elsewhere, I'm married to a retired public school teacher.)
Tenure only makes management's job more difficult. If I had my way, most public employees (including, but not limited to, teachers) would work under 3 to 5 year contracts. When the contract ran out, the employing agency could simply exercise its lawful option not to renew.
I would reserve lifetime tenure exclusively for people who do controversial but necessary work -- top-level appeals court judges, for example.
Incidentally, I enjoyed lifetime tenure myself as a Federal employee back in the 1970s. Most of my colleagues were hard workers, but one was simply horrendous: lazy, incompetent, rude -- you name it. One manager spent so much time trying without success to fire "Arnie" that he - the manager - took a hit on his own performance review.
After that, senior management resorted to encouraging "Arnie" to volunteer for jury duty as often as he wanted to. (Ironically, I once found myself in the same jury pool as "Arnie" in the late 1980s. The judge excused me after I told him that I would punch "Arnie's" lights out if I had to serve with him.)
Yup, same here. That's how I'm so conversant about the ins and outs of the schools in Ohio. Your experience may vary.
I'm on the side that management will use the available jobs for their own MCI Friends and Family job source. Also as the teachers gain experience in this state, the salary scale, negotiated, increases their pay with that expertise increase. Replacing a 20 year teacher with a young friend or relative just graduated from college and having trouble finding an elementary teaching job saves some cash for the district. More money to spend on the upper management six-digit pay rates.
Or they can replace a quality experienced teacher with a coach for the basketball team.
Most of the hatred toward tenure among people comes from the treatment of same in the media. They will poll that tenure is bad for all those other schools around the state in general. But when asked about particular schools in their district, such as where their children went to school, they feel the teachers are fine. It's the media halo effect.
So tenure is often bad in the instances where it hits the media, such as a case of sexual contact between a teacher and student; seldom is tenure mentioned as to how the administration (see my previous example) wanted to put a coach candidate into a job as a perk. Did I mention that the athletics-oriented administrator put two high-profile athletic people into jobs just because he knew of them and they were "important." Two of them have embarrassed the district with high profile exposed cases of sexual shenanigans in the past few years. The media coverage dragged out for months. But they were important because they had college sports reputations, and people thought that meant our team in the same sport would be better because of their coaching.
Tenure is still necessary to protect people from unfair dismissal, changes in job positions, and other ways administrations can try to open a position for no professional reason.
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In the private sector you can be dismissed pretty much any time at your employers discretion. The at will employment rule.
It has gotten so that when you turn 50 you might as well pack your bags, especially if you have been successful and have a well paying job. There should be a happy medium somewhere there between the two extremes.
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Before the show started there were 10 second commercials, one with hotdogs running down the street, one with two adults in bed when the husband comes home, one with two guys in a Smart Car and the driver starts punching the passenger in the head. After each commercial it said go to smartclass.com.
So when I got home I did. Go to Canada - English.
Pan the sidewalk scene and press the orange buttons to get these scenes.
It is wierd, but I guess that is the new advertising.
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MAybe it's because I have see abuse at it worst.
I am with you isell. I have seen it in the school system and in a union at work. The union situation was ironical, the brothers and sisters would go to the union meeting together. But, when the outside workers (truck drivers) go on strike the inside workers (mostly women) are crying because they need their pay.
And even more ironical, management has to fill in so the company can stay in business.
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Our thoughts and prayers are with you. After trying all morning, we finally reached our good friends in Nashville. Water is now flowing under their house but hasn't yet reached the front porch. It is still pouring rain but is expected to end tonight. So many people have been hard hit. Let's remember one of our regulars here---Joel.
Richard
Tenure is a problem---becoming lazy because they can hide behind a law.
Management is a problem---hiring friends instead of talent
School boards are a problem---building stadiums instead of classrooms.
The public is a problem---for allowing any of it to happen.
Equitable salary scales are a problem---paying teachers much less than administrators. After 28 years in the classroom, I finally made it to $60K with a graduate degree and bonuses for having high student test scores. When I walked into my new office at the board of education, my salary jumped to $75K in the first two years. When I left twelve years later, my salary was at $95K. My immediate boss, who had me do his job, made $120K. His boss made $150K. The big boss, my superintendent, was right at $200K. Though I worked long hours and never slacked off, I don't think that I earned $95K compared to my years in the classroom. Why did I leave the classroom? I had to consider my pension and my Social Security. Those last 12 years meant so much to our financial security.
Richard