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Yes, I used the word "hour," specifically identifying the hour hand. It was the angle between it and the minute hand that I was asking for.
Therefore, it would seem logical to suppose that the hour hand is sitting on 12.
Nope - completely non sequitur.
judge would have decided in my favor just to get rid of me.
LoL! You're not going to get out of this one that easily.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Richard
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Oh, yes I am. You've already tripped up. You just said that you specifically mentioned the hour hand. Since you did that, the hour hand had to be 12. If it wasn't sitting on 12, then you mislead us. You also just said that you were asking for the angle between the hour hand and the minute hand. Since the minute hand was on 12:30, the hour hand must have to be assumed to be at 12. In addition, if you want an angle between two points, then you need to specify the possibilities of degrees available with the concept of angles. You didn't clarify that data.
Your serve...
Richard
I still could not come up with the angle though !! Alas, another psychology major.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Richard
Well! Going over to the side of management are you? Your 10% is now reduced to 5%. We'll also have to raise your union dues. You have to admit that my "excuses" would be something that would drive a host crazy.
Richard
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Richard
That was still goal number 2.
Number 1 was getting Mrs. Richard the vehicle she wanted.
Yeah, I agree with you richard. The ole tidester pulled a fast one. He tricked us just like I said. That's conduct unbecoming a host. We'll let it slide since he let's us talk about watches, 401k's, Fred Flintstone smoking and assorted other topics lightly tied into sales stories. (winky eye)
And I thought I had won the award for never giving in. :mad:
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Richard
Now, as for Houdini joining up with management, we'll let him slide this time---but he is on probation with a dues increase. (Wink)
Richard
Richard
By any chance, are you related to Rod Serling? I can't seem to shake the Twilight Zone theme music out of my head after reading what you wrote.
How else could I possibly ask for the angle between the hour hand and minute hand without mentioning the hour hand? :confuse:
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I’d say you’re both dead even on that.
Frankly, I’m a little surprised that an ex-teacher would go on and on and on and like he has on this. All I can remember is that the more I tried to make my point with a teacher/instructor/professor, the less likely I was to get partial credit. Maybe he’s been out of that biz too long. (confused goes here)
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Frankly, every once in awhile, I take a little drive through where I grew up. While I don't remember it being a "bad" part of town growing up, I do remember my Mother telling me not to stray to far from our street. I understood why later in life as there are literally prostitutes and what I'll assume are drug dealers on the streets there now, (and thinking back, then too).
Status? Not in the least.....not coming from that neighborhood.
BTW....you did good on your SRX deal. How they got to the numbers doesn't really matter. Why they sold it for your number could be because of a number of reasons. It was a lease return, right? Considering what GM (and GMAC, who was probably the lessor) has been through in the last couple of years, it could very well be that it went back to the dealership at well under the residual value agreed to at the inception of the lease. Ergo, you got a great deal as the 2nd owner because of all the GM/GMAC upheaval.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Is that AM or PM?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
I’d say you’re both dead even on that.
Frankly, I’m a little surprised that an ex-teacher would go on and on and on
I got another reply. Some watches are very asymetrical in shape, therefore the angle could be completely different. Something like this.
It is just that Richard and I are very creative thinkers, and we think outside the box :P
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Is that AM or PM?
But does AM or PM affect the angle? :confuse:
I think the angles will be different on this watch too.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Question should have said "if the clock is symmetrical".
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
OMG.... Richard is human and does he have fault..... he smokes cigarettes... There may have been a few other things in the 60's also :surprise:
Richard
Richard
That is the truth.... A good deal is only what the buyer thinks is a good deal..... to the seller.... a sale is sale and that is all that matters.... My thoughts are they over allowed for your trade but might have made a $2000 profit for the store which can be considered reasonable...
Either way it sounded like you have done what you have been taught here and for that I am proud of you!!!!
One question? Was it a GM certified Pre-Owned... if it was I would say good deal... Looking at how many replies you recieved I would imagine somebody asked that already.... and I won't be surprised if someone else said you could have recieved a better deal ...... And by the way no matter how much money I make or loose on a deal I would never treat customer different. A customer is a customer no matter what the profit is!
It's a always a pleaure to visit these boards....
GP
I am going to have to take a break from Facebook and see what is happening around here more now that I have some down time every once in a while....
Naturally, you couldn't. The point is whether or not you wanted the generally expected response or a more specific response. That wasn't indicated. You should have ended your question with a statement such as: "Be specific" or "Be exact." It's all in the interpretation or perspective as seen by others. BTW, how many of your students came up with the answer that you wanted? If more than 25% failed, then you need to reteach the lesson. Well, that used to be the rule of thumb. Today, it's just "socially promote", "Guard their self-esteem." and move forward.
Rod Sterling? He, Alfred Hitchcock, and I were separated at the hip. (Grin)
Richard
HAHAHA..... just when you think you know everything they go ahead and put you in service..... Truth be told! It was a very excellent experience and one I would not ever trade.... I learned more about vehicles and how the dealership works which I can use to my advantage everday now. I negotiate trades to my advantage cause I can talk about what there vehicle actually needs to validate our reasons for a trade value :surprise: But more importantly I have gained a huge respect for the service side and made great relationships with the mechanics..... in other words I can get my vehicles taken care quickly cause I can first recognise who is slow by looking at what kind of work they are doing... by recognising who is available they will usually drop what they are doing and assist me
I would reccomend a warranty to anyone considering buying a car....!!!!!!! Only if it is a warranty from the manufacturer..... 3rd party warranties sound cheaper up front.... but they don't cover all costs and a dealer doesn't have to accept them.... 3rd party warranties are considered a cash transaction where the consumer is responsible for the differences in the bill which can be $500 ..... and usually that is the difference they saved.... As a service writer it was usually eaiser to keep the customer happy if they had a factory warranty cause you could determine quickly how long the process of correcting the vehicle would be and you could provide them with a rental.... which meant they could be happy getting around while their vehicle was being fixed, and when a customer was in a rental that would give me the writer extra time to service them..... one extra day could make everything easier
SO GET THE FACTORY WARRANTY.... OR CERTIFIED PRE OWNED WARRANTY !!!!!
GP
LoL! I think we'll switch over to another type of analog watch. One without hands - say something like a sundial?
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
They you negotiated your wife's vehicle was strong like bull.... with that strength you should live another 50 years no problem..... The New England Patriots are looking for a wide reciever, you might be able to fill that void :P
GP
Richard
Exactly 100% get it when I follow up with the question "Where is the hour hand at 12:30?" But it's now a moot point as we're switching over to sundials which have no hands and you can fudge all you want with a judicious choice of latitude and longitude.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I bet the pay is better than teaching. (Grin)
Richard
Finally, you figured it out. (Joke) That's my kind of math....a reasonable answer with extended boundaries. (Grin) You're a Master at allowing both of us to win. That's what makes you such a wonderful teacher. It's also why they hired you as a Host.
Richard
Tidester--
Forget the sundial, how am I supposed to measure the angle on my Casio digital watch? It doesn't matter what time it is, the numbers are always in alignment and I can't find any hands. What's wrong with all you folks still stuck in the analog age? The next thing you'll say is that you're still listening to music on vinyl or tape. :P In 1971 I remember seeing the first Pulsar LED watches. Over $300--a fortune to a kid in junior high. I remember thinking that I would never be rich enough to own one.
By the way, I have an analog wall clock in the printmaking studio that has the face numbers reversed. The electric motor runs backwards (unless the power is cut off) and it keeps decent time. Printmaking students need to learn to think in reverse (mirror image). The clock drives them crazy.
Gogiboy
That's funny, Richard.
Greenpea, I was a child of the sixties. My math goes like this> 1 Kilo=2.2 lbs. and there are 28 grams to the oz. I also remember when digital watches were new.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
I thought that about the calculator when they first came out. I was convinced that I would have to carry a slide-rule around for life. Now I have 3 of them. Not sure where the slide-rule is hiding.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
Ah, yes. the little red number specials.
I remember calculators coming out and selling for $90 and being bigger than a couple of packs of cigarettes. Now you get one that does more, is the size of a credit card and they are giving it to you free for stopping by someplace - and you're throwing it out because you can do all that on your cell phone.
You're forgetting the Richard Rule -- "When Richard says or does it, it's okay." Don't believe your lyin' eyes, or ears, or grammar rule books, or much else.
Some would say it's the Dick rule, but I'm not among them.
Richard
Did he go into car sales? :P
My dad had what we called a Superette in the day. Grocery store maybe the size of a small 7-11. I used to sell cigarettes at the register when I was like 5 years old! 26 cents.
What is that old saying, "Nothing sucks as bad as that point in an argument when you realize you are wrong". (and some still won't admit it). Grin.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
She worked but lived at home and my dad thought she was spending herself into oblivion what with the radio alone costing $75 and driving a car he couldn't (or wouldn't) afford. Circa 1957 or so. Bikinis hadn't hit the scene yet or he would have had another fit.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
I always suggest folks buy an Ext warr for their cars irrespective of how reliable a make is. Heck, I own Toyota and Lexus and still buy an ext war.. Folks say,keep that $100 that you pay for an ext warr in a savings account and use it as needed. 1000 for today`s cars is peanuts. A single Check engine light that is a very minor repair can cost hundreds especially as dealer labor rates are 100 an hr. $1k for an ext warr over a period of 8 yrs is peanuts compared to the cost of a car and it`s buying price. :shades:
And yes, I will generalize and say that all 3rd party warr are worthless - doesnt matter who backs it- even if my mom backs it I am not buying a 3rd party aftermarket warr.
The main purpose of a warr is like insurance-- You pay for car or home insurance -- but hope to never use it.. Just dont understand why an ext warr's worth is not realized. Especially as cars today are so complex, computerized and electronic-- the local shade tree indy mechanic cant repair these computers on wheels as the diagnostic equipment cost and technical know how is getting prohibitively expensive.. :confuse:
My dad brought home a used Zenith he bought somewhere. It was bigger than I wanted but it had (still has) seven transistors. I still have it. One of the few things I have from my father who was killed in a tugboat accident when I was eleven.
I remember watching a guy put down the top on his 1957 Ford Skyliner. I was fascinated!