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It's just a joke driver,
I had forgotten about that joke. I remember I just picked up my first BMW, an X3 in 2004. While I was driving it home I heard that joke on the radio. I actually laughed pretty hard.
I do wonder though. Do most people resent BMW drivers on the road? What goes through your mind if one passes you? Do you let a guy in a BMW get into traffic or do you cut him off?
I am judgemental about some things. For example, I don't like to park next to a car with dents all over it. I prefer to park next to 4 door cars than 2 door because their doors are smaller. I don't like parking next to SUVs or trucks because I can't see around them. These are just facts though, not because I am being a snob about it.
Maybe it is reverse snobbery to make judgements about BMW drivers?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Maybe some people do but I certainly don't. As a general rule I admire folks who drive an upscale car no matter the brand don't you? And if anyone gets cut off and needs to get back into traffic I will let them in no matter what they are driving...unless they were being a real jerk.
Like you, a good radio is wasted on me. 99% of the time it is AM talk radio.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Well I think post # 61129 says a lot as well as 60751. There is the fact that you continually promote the feel of the road that BMW have and how superior it is to a smoother ride which you made the statement that people like because they have been "told thats how a car should be made".
You sort of remind me of this one BMW owner I know. Every time there is a large gathering we attend we have a pool to see how fast he mentions that he has a BMW.
Some people like a Harmon Cardon sound system...I like am radio.
I don't think they are snobs, they just get a more enjoyable experience from a good sound system.
Its not that some people like things that others may not, its the attitude they have when they start promoting how much better their choices are.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
No.
What goes through your mind if one passes you?
Nothing more or less than if it were any other make of car.
Do you let a guy in a BMW get into traffic or do you cut him off?
I treat them no different than any other driver.
Maybe it is reverse snobbery to make judgements about BMW drivers?
No it's just that I am getting tired of people thinking that I am not a car enthusiast if I don't "appreciate" the "feel of the road. Or when I am told that I prefer a smoother ride because I have been told that's how a car should ride (I prefer it because it is IMHO better on long drives).
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
We know it must bother you a fair bit cuz you invested enough time to actually go back and find a couple posts to try to support your point.
What I find interesting (in a discouraging sort of way) is that you think it's amusing to attempt to degrade a fellow motorist at a light by calling him a wimp, (why? because he wants to enjoy the stereo without whop whopping sounds of the wind - or maybe his wife was telling him something important on the Bluetooth and it wasn't for other prying, 'bored' ears to hear at a light?) for no other reason than to feebly attempt to entertain yourselves. You probably high-fived each other after to boot. :major eye roll:
I'll bet when you were a kid, you were the one going to school in a T shirt (coat and hatless) in late Nov with snow flurries about and a 30 mph northwest wind in your face, but freezing your ever loving butt off, simply because you thought it wasn't a cool look to don a coat when it's cold out even though summer had been over for months.
My point is; why resent other people having strong opinions, when you yourself impose yours on a completely unsuspecting victim? At least here, on this forum, a certain amount of banter exchange is expected. I have never once witnessed driver100 be mean to anyone with his comments. I can't say the same about you tho..
It's called a search feature and if you know the key words for a post it takes less than 30 seconds to find a post.
is that you think it's amusing to attempt to degrade a fellow motorist at a light by calling him a wimp,
Reread the post, it wasn't me.
I'll bet when you were a kid
You lose that bet. But then again I am not insecure enough that I have to belittle other drivers because they are so enlightened as to drive a stick.
My point is; why resent other people having strong opinions
No I don't resent people having strong opinions. What I do resent is people who think that those that don't hold onto the same opinion are in someway wrong or ill informed. Like you, you like manual transmissions, that is fine. But don't think you are in anyway superior because of it. Don't think people are lazy or poor drivers because they drive automatic transmissions.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My blah mobile is deff. better than your blah blah mobile and only real snobs drive blah,blah,blah mobiles....
just a little humor to make the day go by....
Amen! Case in point. I have mentioned that I have tired of the sport/jittery ride of my Genesis. I have found out through reading some early articles about it that in Korea it rides very soft and plush (think Avalon/Buick). For the US market they firmed it up so that it would be respected by the US press, etc.
I've said it before, there is a reason why soft riding cars such as the Toyota Camry dominate the market.
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I think that is what prevented it from returning to the front page.
That is really too bad, it has really slowed the influx of new posters...
Nowhere have I ever belittled another driver because they don't drive a manual. I have said that if they can drive a stick and drive it well, they ARE a better driver than someone who can't, and I stand by that.
And if you can't admit that some auto drivers simply couldn't drive a stick even if they were put through numerous courses (and often by their own admission) then you lead a fairly sheltered and naive life.
And whether you care to admit it or not, ANY function that can be performed manually by some people, that others could not perform the same function without some form of automatic assist, really are inferior in their abilities. That's not belittling, that is simply stating a fact. And as I have said in the past, we can't all be good at all tasks. But there are those of us who excel at some.
There are people who are not only content to not have a clue what happens under the paint of their car, they don't even want to know.
With some people technology (or varying themes on executing the same function) is completely lost on them. They use a car to get from point A to B. It is incidental that the car is carrying them, cuz they are just along for the ride. With others they can tell the difference between how a BMW feels compared to a Cavalier. It takes all kinds.
And I didn't say that you were the one who yelled wimp. But you thought it amusing enough to tell us here and it wasn't with your indicating your dismay. That is not your way.
What I resent is people urinating in my ear but attempting to sell it as rain.
edit - I went back and reread your wimp post. The first time I read it i thought the top was down, windows up. Makes no dif tho really. If that was the extent of the exchange with the other guy, then it is just promoting some unneeded or wanted stress in someone's life. Totally opposite from pulling up and asking them to roll down the window so you can tell them they have a brake light out. But if there was some jocularity after, on each other's part, then I guess it wasn't so bad. It just struck me wrong, that's all. A random case of someone trying to be funny but not really pulling it off..
Harman Kardon.
I'm a Harman on my mother's side. Unfortunately not THOSE Harmans. Heck, Harman is my middle name.
Firefighter said: My BMW is back from the shop. I'm so excited I can hardly sit still waiting to go drive it home.
Driver said; Could you explain to Richard and others who may not understand, why you miss your "BMW" so much? I think you understand, it is more than a car...it is like part of you, oryou are part of it. There are cars, and then there are BMWs.
I think most people wouldn't be offended by what I said. I was talking to Firefighter and was quite surprised to see a fellow BMW driver who understands it. He said and felt what I would if my car was in the shop for a few days. I don't think I am inhibiting the enjoyment of your car one bit. Those Chrysler convertibles are wonderful cars, you get a convertible for a descent price. I considered one myself, but if I was going that route I would probably prefer a Mustang...but that's just me...but nothing wrong with a Sebring.
In 60751
explorer said: Anyways, although it doesn't have any real vices, I just never felt I really connected with it.
IDriver said: f you want "the feel of the road", you know what you have to buy.
I liked the Fusion I rented in Florida, it was one of the better rental cars I have had. It is pretty basic, but it does everything well, and it is a nice neat package. One friend has 150,000 miles on his 4 cylinder model and it hasn't had any problems. It is a very comfortable too.
Fusions are a bit bland, but much better driving experience than a Camry, or RAV 4, and I prefer it to a Chrysler 300 I rented.
Once again, no reason to get all upset. I was having some fun with explorer who doesn't think a bmw will fill his needs, he needs an "M" BMW. I said very nice things and I think realistic things about Fusions and Camrys
You love your Sebring and other car which I keep forgetting what it was. That's great! I have never tried to talk to you about trading for a BMW. And, don't judge everyone the same way. I would never mention what kind of car I drive unless asked. Same as I wouldn't say how much I earned or what my net worth is....even if asked. Just because one neighbor talks about his car (probably because he doesn't have much else in his life to talk about) don't think everyone who drives a BMW would do that. GEEEEEESH!!!!
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Gimme, your posts are always insightful. Not only do you explain complex technical information in a clear way, so that any lay person can understand it, but you get down to the real nuts and bolts of the other issues.
As you said, if you don't care or comprehend the difference between driving a BMW and driving a Cavalier, then save your money...buy a Cavalier. Spend your money on things that will make you happier. I don't think too many people are going to think less of you for making that choice...and if they did, they shouldn't matter to you any way.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Thanks for sharing that piece of information. Aren't you supposed to be off until Sunday?
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
The other day I was reading in one of the Kia (I think it was) forums and a number of posters all said how terrible the optional Infinity 8 speaker (with sub woofer), sound system was.
And I was surprised. I have always been under the assumption that if you pay for that Infinity or Bose or Harman Kardon name, that you get a well thoughtout and engineered audio system suited for the car it's going in. But alas I too lead a naive life at times I guess, because the nickle counters of the...in this case... 'economy' world, (cuz Kia is trying to get a foot in with extra content for less cost) have decided that they can scrimp on using a lesser amplifier, lighter, weaker speakers, and thinner metal bezels and mounts, thinking that they can sell their hidden cost-cutting behind the name.
I have wanted to post this before but is so hard to interpret each other's view of what they constitute a great and powerful sounding car audio system. I recall my elderly Uncle's LHS, (late 90's?) loaded with all the goodies, and he was so proud of his (whatever they put in those things) extra optional sound system, and I wanted to play with the equalizer (tone and treble only, can't remember?) to try to get it to tighten up once you started to hammer it a bit. (I do listen to my music loud, unless it is backgrd eating/making love music). But I remember thinking it wasn't as capable as either an Accord or Camry's, at the time, base OEM system.
Yet my CRV's (optioned up) system, is still lacking. One of the many reasons I'm car shopping. Surely that gap can be filled without having to go aftermkt in this day and age?
I have said that if they can drive a stick and drive it well, they ARE a better driver than someone who can't, and I stand by that.
The best driver I have ever know cannot drive a stick. Yet he can drive circles around both of us.
And if you can't admit that some auto drivers simply couldn't drive a stick even if they were put through numerous courses (and often by their own admission) then you lead a fairly sheltered and naive life.
I can't admit it because with the exception of one armed or one legged drivers I truely believe that someone can learn to drive a stick if they wanted to. I have trained one or two people who have failed to learn despite several attempts to learn. It takes time and patience but it can be done.
There are people who are not only content to not have a clue what happens under the paint of their car, they don't even want to know.
Yet those people if they want to know can learn.
With some people technology (or varying themes on executing the same function) is completely lost on them.
Again that is because they simply don't want to learn or haven't had the right teacher.
And I didn't say that you were the one who yelled wimp.
"is that you think it's amusing to attempt to degrade a fellow motorist at a light by calling him a wimp," sounds like you are.
The first time I read it i thought the top was down, windows up. Makes no dif tho really. If that was the extent of the exchange with the other guy, then it is just promoting some unneeded or wanted stress in someone's life.
Maybe I should add we knew the guy now that I reread it and saw that I omitted it.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
That in and by itself no. However add it to all the other stuff talking about how "superior" the "feel of the road" is and other comments like people thinking that a soft ride is better because they have been told that and it does build up.
Just to say that it is the general tone of all of your posts do appear to lean that way. Maybe its not your intent but thats how I am seeing it. If so I am sorry.
But there is another here that really blew my stack on something. Maybe I am making it more than it is. If I am the accept my apologizes.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
When your OEM tires wear out, there are better selections which can soften the ride and eliminate a lot of the "jitters".
This time I gave you examples... last time, a lot of pain and the overwhelming feeling I was beating a dead horse, caused me to leave it.
"The best driver I have ever know cannot drive a stick. Yet he can drive circles around both of us. "
You have said this before and I didn't reply to it because it was so ridiculous. Aside from many reasons I could cite for you, you have no idea on this green earth how capable or not, I am behind the wheel. If you are even a bit curious tho, I can drive pretty damn competently. I have raced on 2 wheels and 4. Managed to navigate a big truck in downtown Manhattan for years without even being in an accident let alone the cause of one, I can operate heavy equipment and I once moved a backhoe (under its own power) through the bush with no wheels on it. When I was a teen one of my first jobs on night shift (one of two at the same time, as I worked day and night during that period) was driving a (manual) propane-powered forklift down hot, dark, steamy, foggy tunnels where racks of freshly formed cement blocks are placed to cure. Much to my frustration in trying to tell the owners that the poor forklift's tranny and clutch is getting abused terribly, they never fixed the brakes. It had NO brakes. Slowing was done by crunching the poor thing into reverse (it had no syncros in forward gears let alone reverse) and gently (because any sudden jar the blocks would crumble and waste) nurse the clutch to use it as a brake. And you had to be ready cuz the headlights didn't pick up much clue when you were approaching the last rack just placed in there, due to the steam and fog. In order to get as many in there as you could they wanted them in up tight to each other. And if you 'braked/clutched' too soon then you had to put it back into forward gear, but not leaving you much room to stop it again by nursing the clutch in reverse again. So you had to try to gage it just right and all without jarring the load. And when I say NO brakes I mean NO brakes. None, zilch, notta.
So please, don't be questioning my driving abilities....on or off the race track. I will admit though; that now, because of my eye-sight and slowing reflexes due to age, I'm not as fast as I used to be. But I could still do that forklift job with no brakes and I could still move that backhoe without wheels. Could I re and re your heart during a surgery? Nope, nor could I style someone's hair or write a new program for your PC.
"Maybe I should add we knew the guy now that I reread it and saw that I omitted it."
Yup, that was quite the omission...lol
Peace...just don't interpret it as weakness..
Bol--
I once shared a studio space with a true contrarian. He was 25 years my senior, suffered from circulatory problems in his legs caused by type 1 diabetes and smoked Camel no-filters like he was in a foxhole on western front.
He always insisted that the department and grocery stores should put the handicapped parking as far from the front door as possible as it was the only way you could force the slackers to exercise their feeble legs. Likewise, he wanted the checkout baggers to add bricks to the bags of the "blue haired brigade" to strengthen those withered old arms.
In retrospect it was a kind of defensive gallows humor and I remember that he got to a point where he was attempting to walk through a small indoor mall to prepare for a spring break trip. He couldn't do it and had to ask a colleague to guide the trip instead.
I went with him when he bought a new car. There was no haggling, no test drive and his only request was that the salesman drive the Tempo (yucch) in reverse. so he could be certain that it didn't sound like a rubber band. He also examined the wheels to make sure they were large enough that it didn't look like a lawnmower. Using the vernacular I learned on this website, "he was clubbed like a baby seal".
Later, his Tempo was t-boned and totaled by a blue-haired woman in some huge piece of Detroit iron. The driver had her brigade (posse) in tow. Poetic justice?
Gogiboy
No it's not ridiculous, unless it disproves a bias of yours.
I can drive pretty damn competently.
And so can I. To bad none of what you said disproves my claim.
So please, don't be questioning my driving abilities
For one who complains about others putting words in their mouth you don't have a problem putting words in others mouths. I never questioned your driving ability. I just stated that the best driver I know by far cannot drive a stick. Now if you believe you have better driving abilities than anyone who cannot drive a stick then it's your fault that you inferred that I questioned your driving abilities. But that is something I did not do.
But I could still do that forklift job with no brakes and I could still move that backhoe without wheels.
Give me a chance and I could probably do that too, so what?
It still doesn't change the fact that this guy could drive circles around either you or me.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
my original quote..
"With some people technology (or varying themes on executing the same function) is completely lost on them."
and you said:
"Again that is because they simply don't want to learn or haven't had the right teacher. "
To be honest you missed totally what I was getting at. To be honest, as I typed that I was picturing how BMW or MBenz mounts their suspension components to subframes of a car's chassis, compared to how Chev did it with their Cavilier.
There really are 'reasons' why some cars feel and cost more than others you know. You may be one of those A to B people, but that isn't a crime. Everyone has their own strengths.
When I said: " (or varying themes on executing the same function)" picture how, years ago, the resistance to adopt hydraulic brake systems in a car by ol' Henry. Ford carried on for a number of years with his mechanical/ cable systems, before relenting that...while a bit more expensive to mfg, admitting that hydraulics were a superior way of getting the binders to grab.
I think there are some things you just can't learn. I love music, but I can't sing or play an instrument. Notes and keys mean nothing to me. Teachers have tried, and always failed. When I was in schools they had the Robins, Blue Jays, and I would be in the listeners group. I wasn't allowed to sing, I could only listen.
The best driver I have ever know cannot drive a stick. Yet he can drive circles around both of us.
I am not sure what that means, but just as an opinion, I think the most competent driver in the world would have to know how to drive a stick. You just couldn't go around corners or have as much control if you aren't doing the gears yourself. Most people think they are much better drivers than they are. 80% of the population thinks they are above average drivers (that's a Yogiism). I see drivers who think they are good and they travel too fast in fog or snow....they think they are good, but they are going faster than they can see. Sometimes a slow cautious driver is really the better driver. Too much confidence is not a good thing (by the way I did teach drivers ed if that means anything).
You're apalogy is accepted, but I have no idea why any of these comments about BMW should be upsetting. Nothing here, that I say is that serious. Sometimes I say stuff just to get some comments going. My wife's BMW has a warning light that just came on...I checked the manual and it seems to be an emission control problem that should be looked at. It could be as simple as a gas cap not on tight enough - and she did just get gas. Her car was just in 2 weeks ago because the low oil warning light was coming on. Even BMWs aren't perfect. But, they do have HCC (handling, control and cornering) ability.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
He said the end of the week. The week happened to end on Friday night.....
You probably need a week to rest up to recover from your vacation.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Oh no, more grammar police! We're surrounded! :surprise:
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Once you're away from the coast, any of the summer months can be great, and I try to get as close to the solstice as I can, to experience as much of the "midnight sun" as possible. Even when I lived in Edmonton the sun didn't go down until after 10 at night, and it's later in Alaska. Try to stay long enough that if the weather's bad part of the time you have enough time for it to change for the better.
Enjoy.
In a similar vein, after 5+ decades of observing people who act offensively, their height becomes a consideration. I don't go into it noticing their height. I only do so after their behaviour makes me.
I guess my circle of social gatherings differ from your experiences, as I have not found this to be the case. Disproportionate fractions or not.
Contrarily, I have been to a couple of social gatherings of which I don't frequent anymore, since asserting that the woman in my life at the time and I, had less in common with her social network than what was first thought. At those brown bottled parties, there were Chev Caprices, and very beat to death pickup trucks in the parking lot with duct tape holding many parts of the car together that otherwise were just waiting to take out the next guy on a bike foolish enough to follow their POS cage too closely. Money was spent on beer instead of adding 2.5 quarts of oil to a sump that would have been much happier had it been able to circulate its usual 3.8 quart capacity. Some vehicles had to be accessed (the driver's side behind the wheel) from the passenger's side....after untying the rope first of course..
But on a positive note, there wasn't one in the bunch that had a 2x8 slab of rear spoiler on the trunk lid. :thumb up:
And there wasn't a BMW anywhere to be found.
Interesting observation. I don't think it has much scientific value. We have one set of neighbors who have a BMW. The wife drives the BMW and he drives a Buick. They are nice down to earth people who worked hard and saved their money.
If you don't count us (my wife and I), that means 100% of the BMW drivers on the street are nice down to earth people. If you count us it is 3 out 3 or 100% who are nice down to earth people.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Exactly. BMW drivers aren't necessarily anything.
The question has to do with how many of them participate in aggressive driving and/or ostentatious behavior in social settings.
Look at the bad behavior, then look at who's doing it, not the other way around.
I may be the very one to whom you are referring. Of all posters here, I know the least about the mechanics of a car. As I have said here many times, my father knew a great deal about cars. He tried to teach me, but it just wouldn't stick with me. I simply couldn't see patterns, connections, and how the overall engine depended on its parts. He did teach me how to drive a stick, and I caught on very quickly. It was fun. I also achieved the ability to detail a car and to change tires. As you say, the rest was lost on me. Knowing that he failed in the mechanical area of teaching, he did instill in me the desire to have my car maintained, to react to unusual noises, and to appreciate the value of an automobile. I always loved car design and color. That has been my real interest.
As Driver mentioned about his inability to sing and play an instrument, I do believe that some people just can't do well at certain things. My father also enjoyed cooking. He was proud of me in that area, and I took to it like a duck to water. My mother taught me the value of fine furniture and how to recognize genuine antiques. I carried both of those areas into my adult life. I do take good care of my cars, but I am not the one who does the work. I do depend on good mechanics. Just because they do the work doesn't mean that I don't care.
As for those who drive a stick being better drivers, I'm not so sure. My recent Miata was a stick, but I'm not an excellent driver. I have a depth perception problem which causes me to follow cars too closely at times. I also used to drive too fast. I've been much better at slowing down during the last year and a half---thanks to the posters here who encouraged me to do it. I think that people know how well they drive. If they aren't an excellent driver, they need to practice more caution. I am especially aware of that fact now that I am older.
Richard
It varies from make to make and model to model. For example, the H-K upgrade in the E36 BMWs was pretty disappointing. The Bose system in my MS3 is borderline pathetic, but then so is almost everything else that wears the Bose nameplate.
"No highs, no lows- it must be Bose"
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Today's banter was a little heated, but both guys apologized while still maintaining their views. Someone mentioned that our site was once shut down due to a heated argument. I was here and I witnessed it late that evening. The brutal attacker, who was not like the rest of us, was banished forever. The regular poster who lost his cool, with justification, has passed away. Nothing will last forever. If this thread disappears, it won't be because of us. The posters here are mature, respectful, and have values. Considering the various personalities, we do extremely well in communicating and enjoying one another.
Richard
1. Good taste (though you know that I only like the four seater convertible)
2. Money (Not how much money they have, just how much they spent on the car)
3. Small car (as compared to something like my SRX)
That's about it. If they need to move into my lane, I'll certainly allow it. Just don't blow the horn at me. That is the one thing that will piss me off big time.
For some strange reason, people around here love to blow their horns at you if you don't take off immediatley from a light or stop sign. When they do that, I give a friendly wave in the rear view mirror as if they are a long lost friend. I then move VERY slowly out into the road. I am not about to get killed just because you are in a hurry and want me to move out of your way.
Richard
I agree. Our SRX has a Bose sound system. I was surprised the first time that I really used it. I don't find it exceptional at all. The richness and tone quality that I expected is simply missing. I've had better sound systems in less expensive cars. My Sebring convertible's sound system seems better to me.
Richard
Richard
The ALCAN 5000 Winter Rally is a fun way to see Alaska. I ran it in 2000 and I hope to run it again -this time with my son- in 2012.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Richard
LOL. I was wondering where I would find my next vehicle. Can you tell me the address?
Seriously though, If you define yourself by the kind of car you drive I'd suggest you invest in therapy rather than cars. I drive a range of vehicles and I'm just as proud of my hoopties as I am of my sports car--just for different reasons. I buy what I do to please me and no one else. If someone chooses to look down on me when I'm driving the junker or hates me because I drive a nice car is of no concern to me.
If I had $50K I might buy a BMW but I don't think any more or less of someone who does own one. If the BMW driver looks down on everyone else because they "don't get it" then it's his problem .
Now, let's talk price on that Chev Caprice. I'll bring the 2.5 qts. of oil if you knock a few bucks off the price.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Look at the bad behavior, then look at who's doing it, not the other way around.
Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that. I have been thinking about obnoxious BMW owners and I can think of 2 that come to mind. One was a poster on another topic, and he was totally obnoxious (far worse than me), really over the top. If you didn't have a BMW like his then you weren't worth talking to.
The other guy was at a high school reunion about 5 years ago. He was a quiet shy guy in high school but he married a wealthy lady. He was going on about his huge fancy house and his BMW. We were at a table with about 10 people and we were eating dinner. His wife just wanted to get away from this group and go back to where they lived....she didn't want to be with us common folk.
The thing is, I have seen just as many obnoxious people who drive other kinds of cars. I guess if an obnoxious person drives a BMW they will use that as their tool to be obnoxious, if they have a boat, they'll use that, if they have a condo in Sarasota or Monte Carlo, they will use that, if they win big at gambling - they will use that...if a person is obnoxious..they will find a way to bring it out.
I try not to be around these people, or chronic complainers, or people who will only talk about their medical condition or their medications. Life is too short and there are so many good things to do and talk about(places to go, books to read, DVDs to rent, dogs to walk).........who needs to be brought down to that level.
(By the way, I know many posters here have real medical problems but I have the highest regard for you guys...you have let us known about your problems...which is fair, part of normal communication..........but you don't dwell on it, and you live as positively as possible, and you are a positive influence on others around you - making the world a better place).
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
Roadburner.....generally speaking, getting the premium sound systems as an option for most cars is quite costly. How Bose cornered the market with the automotive manufacturers is something I don't quite get given that they're probably the worst of all of the premium car stereos. That said, I would imagine that the car companies send car stereo development out for bid. Probably more often than not, Bose is the lowest bidder, which is apparent whenever I hear one.
mako.....I've really changed my in car listening habits the last year or so. I have an iPhone. Since my car has bluetooth, I download podcasts to listen to....usually I scour the ones I like on Sunday (today), download them. Then, I listen to them in the car the rest of the week. Some of them just download automatically. And, all the ones I listen to are free, and commercial free. No more putting up with 20 minutes of commercials for every 30 minutes of programming.
oldfarmer.....seems I keep seeing Mitsus everywhere on the road these days. Every time I do, I think of you....especially the Eclipses I see on the road.
I agree. Before my 1st BMW I owned 2 Jeeps(2000 &1995), a Cavalier(1992), and a Corsica(1986)....how low can you go. I liked all those cars a lot. In fact, I probably liked the Cavalier the most, because I could barely afford it at the time. It was like my baby, I made a lot of sacrifices to drive a new car. The Corsica was used and they were very minimal in quality...when it started to go it really fell apart.
I bought the Cavalier because I had to be at work on time and every day or I would have lost my job, so I thought it would be worth it to get a reliable car.
At that time I would probably not had much of an opinion about BMW drivers. I guess my thought would have been, why spend that much on a car that doesn't really look like a real expensive car. I would probably have thought...if I had that much money I would buy a Mercedes, Caddie, or Lincoln, at least they look luxurious. Part of me would have thought, I will get an Accord and pocket the balance..it will still get me from point A to B in comfort, and more bucks in the bank always feels good.
A few things changed. We had a good year in business and I was going to get another Jeep. I tried a few cars, but my wife said just for fun, lets look at BMWs. One test drive and I had entered another world. I won't go on again about why as it will aggravate some people. What I will say is people should keep an open mind, if you ever get the chance, even to try a used BMW, MB, or Audi, do it, it will be one of life's experiences that you should try.
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250
With all due respect but musical theory is a lot more complicated than shifting a manual transmission. Playing an instrument is a lot more difficult than shifting gears. Singing is a product of the voice you have. I an't sing either, but thats not because I don't have the ability to learn, its because I just don't have a voice.
As for the most competent driver in the world needing to know how to drive a stick. Thats only if they have to drive a manual transmission.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I'll send you a pdf. of the article I wrote about the 2000 Alcan. My editor likes to send me on "adventures". The last one left me stranded in Arizona desert for several hours...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Wow. That is the most condescending post I have read in a long time. :sick:
I didn't see anything in the the newspaper/tv about it. I agree with you, it's a wonderful thing to get this opportunity before they pass.
If you want to watch the best Driver in the World....watch this! Note, he has a stick and he is wearing seat belts (If I remember correctly, you don't believe in seat belts). Watch to the end and you will see what a tremendous athlete this guy has to be.
If you love driving...you have to watch this...it is amazing (and you couldn't do this with an automatic)
The Best Driver in the World
2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250