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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    How is an RDX different than a CRV. They're the same size, built in the same place, looks suspiciously similar in basis.

    CRV only comes with a 4-cyl, whereas the RDX has the corporate 3.5L V6 under the hood.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    yeah, the RDX is basically a V6 luxo model CRV. Just don't tell the Acura people that, they get offended...

    there are other differences. Nicer interior, so features, etc. Plus it is much quieter and smoother. And way, way, way faster!

    better looking too, in the rear.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,252
    "...a problem for all direct injection engines..."

    Thanks for explaining that.

    Actually walnut blasting is not as wierd as it sounds. You can't sandblast aluminum because it's a soft metal. Walnuts are softer than sand so they don't pit the aluminum parts in modern engines.

    The deposit buildup may explain why Mitsubishi doesn't do direct injection in most of it's cars anymore.

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  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,130
    RB....I've heard of the 'ole walnut crumb, valve blasting service. However, there are so many detergents in today's gasolines, I really don't see why something like that is needed.

    All that being said, I still put a little bottle of Techron with a fillup every 5K miles, just to satisfy my desire for clean valves. That seems to work well. And, no $500 bill is needed.

    Michaell...congrats to your wife for starting the Master's journey. You should be prepared to spending many an evening with Chef Boyardee, alone. :P
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It’s gotta cost you guys a mint…just to breath. How are you charged for it, by the day or by the cubic foot?

    lol..........yes, it is expensive living up here. I forget how much it is to put air in your tires now, 25, 50 cents or a $1 coin. It's been awhile, but the days of free air at the gas station are pretty well gone.

    Don't your stations charge for air...we didn't get air when we went to FL?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    CRV only comes with a 4-cyl, whereas the RDX has the corporate 3.5L V6 under the hood.

    But, if his wife is considering a 4 cyl Santa Fe, and is willing to get an SUV the size of an Acura RDX, why not consider a CRV?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    See the above post...inquiring minds want to know.

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  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Charge for air? Some do some don't. I go to the ones that don't. The tire shop I use fills with nitrogen at no charge. As long as the price is right.

    Was off line all afternoon but not for lack of trying. Apparently all Comcast's South Jersey service area was down - Internet and cable.
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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    >Charge for air? Some do some don't. I go to the ones that don't. The tire shop I use fills with nitrogen at no charge.

    The stations around here have allowed the independent companies to put up the 75 Cent/3 minute pumps. But for at least some of those, the people inside can cycle the machine for free air for their customers. I use the quick market where I get morning coffee for free air.

    I put in the 78% nitrogen form. It's freely available and doesn't leak out any faster than the 90% stuff they try to sell using some cursory device to try to enrich the nitrogen in the normal atmosphere. Try googling nitrogen profit machine and you'll get lots of stuff like this: "Do the math and you will see how the GWR Nitrogen Filling Station (tm) creates a 400% greater profit margin with 1/4 the labor time." The machines don't get to 100% nitrogen when you read the details.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    The stations around here have allowed the Independent companies…

    I put the nitrofil in my tires because my dealer doesn't charge for the service so long as you purchased your car from them. There is very, very little difference between air and nitrofil. The only thing I noticed down here in the heat is that my tires are at 31 psi when I start off in the morning and go to 34 psi on the highway at 65 mph and 95 degrees F. When I had the Mercedes, it would start at 32 psi and jump to 38 psi on the highway. So, as you can see, not too much difference.

    The major usefulness of higher percentages of nitrogen is less oxidation. But it is impossible to put 100% nitrogen in your tires unless it is done in a vacuum so no oxygen or hydrogen can get in the tires.

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    edited August 2012
    The difference in temperature delta for the two cars will depend on the type of tire and size, the belt structure, the loading on the tire relative to its load design.

    The idea of nitrogen originally came from truck tires where the tires carcasses are recapped and run 100s of thousands of miles. The reduction in oxygen with REAL nitrogen reduced aging of the rubber of the interior of the tire.

    The machines I saw advertised when I carefully read specs a couple years back that were being peddled to stores for "nitrogen" fills were little more than kiddie machines. If a store has a heavy pure nitrogen tank like used at hospitals and welding shops for oxygen and on then I'll think about a benefit from nitrogen in truck tires.

    But for auto tires, the most important factor is the moisture. Many of the air compressors have driers to remove moisture from the air going into the tire. Smaller setups don't. The moisture may help deteriorate the metal some on the rim at the bead--or maybe it doesn't.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    Don't your stations charge for air...we didn't get air when we went to FL?

    Sure they do but before they did, years ago back in the mid 70’s, I bought a 12 volt cheapy pump at K-Mart. It had a light that could serve as a flash light of sorts if you wanted to peak under the hood if something went wrong while you were on the road. It also had a flashing amber light for safety that you could turn on at night when you wanted to blow up a tire. Fortunately, I never needed it for myself on the road but I did help a few others that needed help over the years. It made a heck of a racket when it was turned on but it lasted until just last summer when the cheap rocker switch stopped working. I should have wire nutted the wires and just plugged it into the 12 volt outlet in the car but I bought a new one. Still kicking myself about doing that. No telling how long that thing could have lasted like that. Must have had a senior moment that day. :(

    You gotta get a 12 volt pump just be safe when you’re on the road. They are pretty inexpensive for the piece of mind they provide and more than that I don’t want to drive somewhere and pay to put air in my tires. I’ve seen too many people put in their payment and only get 3 tires filled and had to drop in another nickel or whatever it is today to get the last one. It rather do it at my convenience in my garage. Of course when I’m at home I use one of my larger compressors because it is quicker with them. So the 12 volt gizmo is just for emergencies and usually not mine. I think I’ve helped at least a half dozen people over the years because when they took their spare out of the trunk it was flat. Hey guys, remember to check your spare too, especially before going on vacation.

    Another use for the 12 volt job is when we go to the beach and the grandkids take their water inflatable thingies. You don’t think I’m going to huff and puff up those things do you? :sick:

    I forgot to mention another freebee we get here in the States. It’s “gravity”…heaven forbid we float away and they can’t tax us. There may be others, but for sure, that one ain’t going away.

    jmonroe

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    But for auto tires, the most important factor is the moisture.

    I agree. And that moisture tends to negatively affect the TPMS in most modern cars resulting in malfunctions or faulty readings. The nitrogen is not a panacea for that problem but it certainly helps to keep the tire dry(er). Furthermore, I believe most airline tires are filled with nitrogen because it tends to dissipate the tremendous heat from landing and braking.

    By the way, at no extra charge, Costco fills all replacement tires with nitrogen with free lifetime refills.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    had to drop in another nickel or whatever it is today to get the last one

    It must cost more than a nickel for air...you can't buy anything for a nickel.
    On March 30 next year we are eliminating the penny in Canada. It costs more to make a penny than what it is actually worth.

    This will save taxpayers about C$11 million ($11 million) annually and forcing retailers to round prices to the nearest nickel.

    I think the air pump down the street costs 50 cents. I like the idea of a 12 volt pump.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    The moisture may help deteriorate the metal some on the rim at the bead--or maybe it doesn't.

    And that may be the most important reason why I do it myself. I know my compressors put out dry air. They haven't failed me yet. No telling how much moisture you're getting with the air you're buying. One time when my card didn't work at the pump and I had to go inside, I heard a guy asked the girl at the register about how often they check their compressors for moisture. She looked at him like he had two heads.

    That was another time I helped someone that needed air.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    edited August 2012
    ...and unearthed a base engine (no turbo) AWD. figured that was the heaviest and slowest. But, seemed plenty peppy. So the wife did not see a need to spend extra on forced induction. Nice!

    It might not be as nice as YOU would like. Go talk to ‘mayko1a’. He dumped his small engine stang for a V8 after only two months. I don’t want to be an “I told you so” BUT I seem to remember asking him about questioning himself a couple of times about whether he should get a 6 or an 8. If you’re thinking you ain’t satisfied. :sick:

    ‘mayko1a’…How many whacks at the chisel is it going to take to get that V8 smile off your face? Big V8 congrats fella; from a fellow V8er.

    jmonroe

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    well, the santa fe is pretty powerful for what it is, and relatively light. No slouch. And my wife does not hot rod much. But of course, more power is nice to have, when you want it. as is putting less gas in.

    Driver, I tried to sell the CRV using that logic. It really did not have to do with the engine. It was a combination of the styling, plainer interior, and that it was another Honda (too much like her Odyssey in her mind). So yes, there is some badge snobbery going on, but also from the standpoint of wanting something more luxurious. and different.

    hey, she's a woman. They make up their minds on stuff like this for their own reasons.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    had a dealer pull the old "puppy dog close" on us tonight. Twist my arm!

    for those not familiar with it, the PD close is when they put you in a car to take home overnight to try is out, see how it fits in the garage, etc. But mostly so that, like the puppy that follows you home, you fall in love and don't want to give it back!

    oh, and so the neighbors all see your spiffy new car, and you are too embarrassed to give it back.

    the car is a new Acura RDX AWD. My wife really likes it, so the debate about the Hyundai base engine being powerful enough may be irrelevant (to us at least!).

    gotta admit, it is a nice driving car. Not quite as roomy as the hyundai, but probably big enough. But there is an abundance of power from the V6, and it is very smooth. worth trading a few MPG for that I think!

    will be interesting to see what happens when I have to bring it back tomorrow (as to what my wife wants to do).

    bigger dilemma might be the color. they only had a red with parchment interior, but it is not the color she wants. And the saleslady is real eager to move another unit in August. But, they have a FWD in the color SWMBO likes, and for the price differential, I am fine with that (we really don't need AWD with all the electronic stuff they have these days, and the AWD on this car is pretty basic anyway.)

    so, the saga could be coming to an end by Friday!

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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    FWD in the color SWMBO likes We all live in a world of acronyms and I like figuring them out at times, but SWMBO has me stumped. Please clarify.

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    hopefully you got the FWD on your own...

    SWMBO = she who must be obeyed.

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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    Big V8 congrats fella; from a fellow V8er. My best friend in the burgh has an incurable cancer for about a year now (3 surgeries and he still has it) so I plan on visiting more often. Next trip should be around the end of Sept. Don't be surprised if you hear a 5.0 revving in your driveway around that time.

    2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,252
    "...mayko1a..."

    Who's that?

    Mako1a might be lucky he got that V8 before they're all gone:

    http://www.autonews.com/article/20120829/VIDEO/308299787/autonews-now-muscle-car- s-doom

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    they said muscle cars and convertibles were dead in 1974 too.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Mako1a might be lucky he got that V8 before they're all gone:

    Interesting video. 54 mpg seems hard to believe. I think he has a few years left to enjoy his V8 though.

    I found those booklets on the best Dealerships to work for interesting. Who would have thought...............

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    the car is a new Acura RDX AWD. My wife really likes it, so the debate about the Hyundai base engine being powerful enough may be irrelevant

    I think the "Puppy Dog Close" theory is very true. Even going for a test drive is a big step towards a sale.

    You know that saying You will Never be Sorry You Spent Extra to Buy Quality.

    Well, I would change it to You will Never be Sorry You Spent Extra to Buy Horsepower.

    I will say though, the right engine can be just as much fun with less horsepower. My wife's 335 had 300, the A4 has 220, but I find the A4 shifts better, and the engine has a nice sound and good surge with the turbo. I may miss the extra horses when I try to enter the freeway.

    It sounds like this Puppy might have found a new home.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,370
    Using a Top Tier gasoline in a non DI engine will pretty much eliminate the need for any sor of intake cleaning regimen. As for those of us with DI engines, we just keep our fingers crossed...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    So I should put a + in the RDX column then? Lower MPG, but cleaner valves down the road?

    And Driver, in theory HP is nice if you ever need more than you have, but paying more every week to fill it up is real!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    "...mayko1a..."

    Who's that?


    Yeah, I noticed that after I read the post. It was getting late and my fingers get cranky at about that time so I decided to let it slide and see if some nitpicker got all uppity about it. Someone did, huh? :(

    School started around here and I’m sure it has where you are too. So, get in that big powerful yellow taxi and get the brats off to their classes. :shades:

    About the big engines going away; maybe in the short term they will but with new technology, in a few years, the manufactures will be able to eke out a few more MPG. It won’t be cheap to own these beasts but for those that still want the 400 plus HP V8s and can afford them, they will gladly pay the gas guzzler tax to get them. Although I doubt that the run of the mill so called sport sedan will be going away because of this, at least I hope not. It was all I could do as it was to convince Mrs. j that she had to have a V8, but a guzzler tax will do her me in. :cry:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    edited August 2012
    Mom, I and Sheldon (owner of the Model A) got a nice ride and a lot of Aoogahs.

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Michaell...congrats to your wife for starting the Master's journey. You should be prepared to spending many an evening with Chef Boyardee, alone.

    gg .. thanks. She just finished her Bachelor's program in July, so I'm already used to the evenings and weekends alone.

    Fortunately, I do most of the cooking, so I can take care of myself while she's busy doing homework.

    Hopefully the MEd (Masters in Education, emphasis on Adult Learning) will provide us with some options to move out of Colorado and somewhere warmer.

    Since I work from home, I can live anywhere so long as I have a phone line and an internet connection.
  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    I previously thought it was a 31. My mistake, it's a 29 Model A

    Mom said that was the BEST Birthday she could have. Aoogah!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It was getting late and my fingers get cranky at about that time

    "At about that time"?

    Don't you mean always :P

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    And Driver, in theory HP is nice if you ever need more than you have, but paying more every week to fill it up is real!

    I agree. My wife says she misses having 300 hp, but I don't miss it. The Audi is more fun to drive. The fact is, she isn't a slow driver, but she really doesn't need those 80 extra horses for the driving she does. I don't need them myself, I like to have them though because I do more highway driving and for the big trip to Florida...but, it isn't great having to feed those extra horses all the time....especially, the premium food.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Since I work from home, I can live anywhere so long as I have a phone line and an internet connection.

    The working world has changed so much. It is amazing how productive you can be at home. Yesterday, the tree planting truck came and put in 5 trees.
    Those machines are incredible. The big blades cut out a plug from our property. He takes that to the tree farm. Pulls out a tree with a plug, and fits in in the hole he made........repeat 5 times.

    What an incredible piece of machinery, all works with hydraulics.
    So, I stayed at home to help a bit with the deliveries (holding the flag or signalling when to stop, but I accomplished way more work at home than I would have going in to work. Kind of miss the social stuff though - that's the downside.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,252
    "...the tree planting truck came..."

    That looks like a unit made by Vemeer.

    BTW, is that your factory and water tower in the background? I knew you were a captain of industry but I didn't know you lived at the factory. :confuse:

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    >I like to have them though because I do more highway driving and for the big trip to Florida

    But..., you can only go so fast through Tennessee! Those extra horses aren't going to do anything but eat hay, I mean gasoline.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    BTW, is that your factory and water tower in the background?

    Not sure if you were serious or not. I just used a picture I found, but the truck looks about the same.

    It seems they buy a Ford truck and have all the tree moving gear added to the back. Most of the controls are at the back. The guy doing it works like a surgeon, slicing the earth and making sure the trees are in the best way and are straight.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    But..., you can only go so fast through Tennessee!

    Some people have memories like elephants.....I was trying to forget about that.

    The fine here is $150 for getting caught by a camera if you go through a red light. I think it is the same for using a cell phone while driving. So, I figure I got pretty good value for my money, $200 for going 96 in a 70 zone.

    I still like horsepower for merging into traffic, and that's not necessarily speeding. I think hp can be a safety feature when used wisely.

    I never was that much of a speeder, that ticket from Tennessee was the first one in 18 years (you probably remember that too imid), but I don't really speed much any more...I basically keep up with traffic. I like to use bad experiences to learn something, and I learned, speeding just isn't worth it, but I still like a certain amount of hp for certain situations.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,051
    I have my first DI engine and while I'm just learning about the valves gumming up, I've noticed that even with only 8k miles on the engine (1 oil change) the oil is much dirtier than any car I've owned recently.

    Is this common among DI engines?

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited August 2012
    Some people have memories like elephants

    You mentioned that you just like to keep up with traffic, *driver. In order to keep up with traffic down here on the interstates or the Turnpike, you would have to drive 10 mph over the speed limit.

    Just this morning, driving south on I-75 near Weston, I was doing 75 mph (5 over the limit) and had trucks passing me on the right doing 80 mph and cars flashing their lights while I was in the right lane because I was holding them up. If you do the speed limit today on most of these roads, you can get killed!

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,370
    I have my first DI engine and while I'm just learning about the valves gumming up, I've noticed that even with only 8k miles on the engine (1 oil change) the oil is much dirtier than any car I've owned recently.

    Is this common among DI engines?


    I have heard several horror stories about fuel diluting the oil in DI motors, particularly in the case of the BMW turbo sixes(both N54 and N55). In my case oil analysis has not borne that out; in 107,000 miles and 18 oil changes only three samples showed even a trace of fuel in the oil.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    . If you do the speed limit today on most of these roads, you can get killed!

    I agree, and a ticket for going 26 miles over the limit in a 70 mph zone was ridiculous, because everyone else is going at least 80! How are you supposed to get around a truck that is swerving around and has loose stuff on the back? At most, I should have had a ticket for 16 mph over the limit.

    I should be able to plead guilty, I was going 96, but, there were extenuating circumstances. Then again, all jurisdictions need the cash.

    It's impossible to drive at the limit on any highway today, you would be a menace and cause more accidents then you prevent.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I have heard several horror stories about fuel diluting the oil in DI motors,

    I know I missed something and I am too lazy today to go back and find it, but what is a DI engine?

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  • mako1amako1a Member Posts: 1,855
    Direct Injection (fuel into cylinder)

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Direct Injection (fuel into cylinder)

    Thanks. So, is DI only used for extra fast engines, or would it be in most engines?

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    it is largely in smaller engines so far. Just another way of getting more HP out of the same displacement, with better MPG.

    I believe a big reason is it allows the engine to run a higher compression ratio, still on regular gas.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,252
    "...I was doing 75..."

    I love the 70mph limit in Florida but no one seems to do it. On a trip from Tampa to Orlando on I-4 I thought 70 would be all I'd ever need. Within an hour I was doing 80 like everyone else. :)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    >I never was that much of a speeder, that ticket from Tennessee was the first one in 18 years (you probably remember that too imid),

    There, but by the grace of God, go I. :blush: I remember the old days.

    If I had to make a longer trip, I might need to speed to get there, but my travels into TN as usually to Sevierville (Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg) or Nashville. So 75 is just fine for me since I'm almost there!

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    You in a domestic automobile? I'm glad to have a review of the MKS from your perspective. It's good to hear that it is a car of quality and a good choice for those of us who like domestics. I've actually been considering the MKS as a replacement for the convertible.

    Driver: I don't think that I have offered congratulations to you on your recent purchase. You're buying so many new cars that I can't keep up with you. :D At any rate I hope that you will enjoy them both. It's too bad that at least one of them couldn't have been a domestic. Not to worry---I still have hope for your future. :P

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "Six footers pay more than 5 footers or what?"

    LOL! That was a good one!

    Richard
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