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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,370
    Congrats!!!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    Thanks. hopefully soon I get over the technology culture shock, and figure out how this works.

    I have learned enough to know that I need an iphone, and I really need a fancy pants new car like this!

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Or will she sell the BMW and Audi to finance something that screams I'm available and fun like a Ferrari or Porsche?

    I know her to well and I doubt that will happen. She won't want the 535 because it is too big, she won't want a Ferrari or Porche, too small, and she'll want a 4 door. Also it has to be a manual transmission. It will have to be a European car, the size of a 335 or A4.

    Doesn't leave a lot of choice. I could see her getting a top of the line 335, she loves to have all those horses, even though she doesn't use them too much.

    I almost forgot, she has a doctorate degree and can use Dr., but thinks it is too pompous unless one is actually a medical doctor.

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    edited September 2012
    Soon I'll get over the technology culture shock...

    When you do get over the culture shock, tell me how you did it!

    Just this morning, I'm contently driving on the Tirnpike, listening to my favorite HD FM station, when the music stops and this sexy voice comes over the speakers saying, "...severe weather is close-by" accompanied by a text message and then a radar map showing the location of a storm and it's distance from me.

    Now that's something that is difficult to get over when talking about technology culture shock!

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    I almost forgot, she has a doctorate degree and can use Dr., but thinks it is too pompous unless one is actually a medical doctor

    That's probably true in some situations, but if you are a professor Dr. (Doctar) is the preferred salutation.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    That's probably true in some situations, but if you are a professor Dr. (Doctar) is the preferred salutation

    But, if you insist on being called Dr. when it is a Dr of Philosophy degree, and someone passes out at a party, people will come running to you and ask you to give medical attention.

    Also, do you really want your friends and neighbors calling you Dr _____?

    She used it professionally, when she was a family therapist, and that is helpful, and is meaningful......gives her a lot more credibility in that field.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    the music stops and this sexy voice comes over the speakers saying, "...severe weather is close-by

    What a great feature! We need a big storm so I can see if my car can do that,..on second thought...............maybe not.

    That is really something though.........the technology is so incredible, and it is so hard to keep up. Someday I'll have to read my manual (my car is almost a year old now) and try to learn a few things.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,051
    The Buick warns you only on the screen. It is a neat feature, but honestly a bit of fluff. If you are driving toward a storm, there is usually enough visual cues to show you that (dark clouds, lightning, etc.

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    That is really something though.........the technology is so incredible, and it is so hard to keep up.

    The Latest and Best in Car Tech

    Driver, you are so right; and here is a PC Magazine article (with illustrations) of how “Automakers are appealing to car buyers with new in-vehicle technology like LTE, digital rearview mirrors, useful apps, and advanced telematics systems.” At the forefront is Audi as it premieres the First Digital Rearview Mirror. Read and comment.

    http://www.pcworld.com/article/261623/the_latest_and_best_in_car_tech.html#tk.rs- s_news
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    new in-vehicle technology like LTE, digital rearview mirrors,

    Even 10 years aqo we couldn't have imagined we would have these devices!
    There are 5 or 6 new inventions mentioned that would have seemed impossible not too long ago. What about the google car too. You just put in your destination and the car gets you there. I prefer actually driving, but that's probably going to be available in the near future.

    I suppose it would be nice to program your destination, and head from Canada to Tampa, go to sleep, read a book, watch DVDs or TV, and be there 1500 miles, in 22 hours...with no Motel stops.

    Note to self; don't go into the motel business!

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    But if you insist on being called Dr.…

    I got my MA when I was 23 and my PhD when I was 25 and insisted that I not be called "Dr." because I personally believe that a title of Dr. should be reserved for physicians. But when I was a school principal/headmaster, it was very difficult to dissuade teachers, parents and students from calling me Dr. ABACOMIKE!

    In fact, there were several administrative positions I held that I would not have been hired for without a doctorate. Some Phd's prefer being called Dr. Because they are elitists. In my case, I prefer not being called Dr. Because I have no use for elitists!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,163
    I don't mind calling someone "Doctor Smith", if that's how they prefer to be addressed.... (assuming I'm not on a first name basis).

    But, if you correct me, while I'm addressing you, you'll just get a big eyeroll, and we'll all snicker about you, later...

    (as noted, M.Ds seem like a different matter..)

    I do remember the ministers we had when I was younger were often addressed as "Doctor", if they had D.D. degree...

    Although, I would personally be proud of having earned that distinction, whether I used the title, or not.. (not that I would know..lol)

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    > if you correct me, while I'm addressing you, you'll just get a big eyeroll, and we'll all snicker about you, later...

    The ones who have it and are competent and confident, don't need to hear the title; the ones who aren't, need to hear the title.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    Only if you are lost in space though, right? (Dr. Smith)

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Only if you are lost in space…

    Right you are Dr. Seuss, Dr. Zhivago, Dr. No, Dr. Detroit, Dr. Strangelove, Dr. D, Right you are!

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Right you are Dr. Seuss, Dr. Zhivago, Dr. No, Dr. Detroit, Dr. Strangelove, Dr. D, Right you are!

    Don't forget Dr. Demento!

    And yeah, if my wife were to get her doctorate, I doubt that she'd want people calling her "Dr.". She's been Ms. _____ at work pretty much her whole career - early childhood.
  • gogiboygogiboy Member Posts: 732
    "The ones who have it and are competent and confident, don't need to hear the title; the ones who aren't, need to hear the title."

    Right you are. My wife , who has an MA, has definitely been frozen out by a few of her so-called friends who have gone on and gotten the PhDs. Those same individuals insist on being called doctor at least by students, perhaps by colleagues as well--I hope not.

    My department is divided between the practioners (studio people with MFAs) and historians with PhDs. You had better believe that the historians hold themselves on a higher plateau than the rest of us even though not one of them has gained tenure.

    I do have the occasional student call me doctor, but I always insist that they call me either by my first name or professor Gogi. It's pretty informal in my world with three-hour classes and lots of one-on-one time. Plus I figure what earns their respect is not my credentials (hell, most of them have no idea what degrees I have or where they are from), but rather respect for my work as an artist and mentor, which is earned by them seeing (hopefully appreciating) my work in the faculty show and elsewhere and through mentoring which can include actually seeing me struggle with my own problems in the studio. My studio is next door to where they work. The added benefit is that I can easily assist them outside of class too, if they need it and they frequently do.

    But Mike is right, lack of PhD will really hold you back in academia, especially if you want administrative work.

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited September 2012
    Plus I figure what earns their respect is not my credentials...

    Believe it or not students do put a premium on the doctorate. When it's time to apply for graduate study at a big name University they invariable go first to a faculty member with the PhD for a recommendation as they believe it will improve their chances of getting in.

    Look, the PhD is the equivalent of the union card in academe. Try applying for a grant or submit a paper to an academic journal and see what happens? Not much! As you would expect it is unlikely that you would receive a substantial grant nor would your paper be accepted for publication without the doctorate. There are exceptions of course but those examples are rare.

    In the final analysis, those with academic PhDs flaunt it (Dr) and those with professional doctorates tend to deemphasize it (Call me Tom.)
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,252
    "...no use for elitists..."

    A professor friend of mind use to wear a button on his lapel that said "yes, I have a PhD but I'm not stupid".

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  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    Believe it or not students do put a premium on the doctorate

    Remember, there is something to be said for the type of doctorate one vies for. In my particular case, I had a choice of pursuing an EdD or a PhD, and I chose the PhD route because of the stigma attached to the EdD by the world of academia.

    The same was true when I pursued my masters degree - go for the MAT, MS or MA, and I chose the MA for the same reasons. One would think that it is easier to acquire an MAT or an EdD, which may be accurate - many MAT programs did not require a thesis and many EdD programs do not require the full dissertation or oral boards like MA's and PhD's do. At least that was the case back in YHE '60's and '70's.

    My degree programs required a full thesis with orals and my doctorate required a full dissertation with reviews and my orals.

    I also believe that a lot has to do with the universities granting the degrees. A PhD from the University of Chicago or Harvard means much more to academia than one from Florida Atlantic University or Roosevelt University.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    In my case, I prefer not being called Dr. Because I have no use for elitists!

    I agree with what you said completely, and I understand why you would use the "Dr." title in an academic setting.

    I guess if you were an elitist your Edmunds title would say Dr abacomike.

    Personally, I like the fact you are a regular person when yuou are in a regular, that is non-academic setting.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    well, why are MDs so special that they need to have a hoity toity prefix?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    well, why are MDs so special that they need to have a hoity toity prefix?

    I think a person with a M.D. degree should be referred to as an M.D., unless you are talking to them in a social setting.

    It is impotant to know who is an M.D....not only because of the training and work in getting the designation, but, because it is important to know who is a real doctor, in case of a medical emergency.

    If someone is having a heart attack there isn't much use in trying to get a person with a doctorate in history to try to help out!

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,777
    Lots of exposure to BMW's yesterday and today.
    A friend of mine had his car in for a repair, and it was ready earlier than expected.
    He asked me to go with him to pick up the car.
    We spent some time walking the lot and in the show room.
    I found out one way to get a sales person's attention was to inspect an M6 Convertible (126k+) ;).
    Today, my wife and I went to Lime Rock race track for a car show.
    BMW is a major supporter of the track.
    My daughter is working at the BMW display this weekend.
    There was an original M3, which had a 4 cyl turbo engine.
    When I pointed it out, she understood what I meant about BMW going back to their roots with the new 3/5 series having a 4 cyl turbo engine.
    Yesterday, my friend looked at the X1 in the show room and liked it.
    Today, my wife looked the X1 at in the track display area and liked it.
    I think it will be a good vehicle for BMW.
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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    Today, my wife looked the X1 at in the track display area and liked it.

    We went for a 300 mile trip in the A4 today, and I drove it. Although the BMW 3 series would probably win in reviews, by a nose, I can think of more advantages the A4 has; Better seating position, nicer interiro, better steering, nicer ride, softer but still communicates the road, nicer interior, nicer steering wheel, lane change warning and regular tires.

    Advantage 328.....Probably a little more power, new i-system is clearer and easier to use.

    I thought the A4 performed beautifully on the highway. I think it makes an ideal car for most situations. My larger 535 is still more comfortable and has more features that make it more suitable for a long trip.

    Nothing wrong with the 328, it's a fine car, my wife and I prefer the A4 just for those little advantages.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    edited September 2012
    Stick, I do want to congratulate you on your new purchase. I really enjoyed reading the step by step posts. It brought back great memories of our beloved Mac. Going out of town for the purchase was a one time event and it produced positive results. I did the same for our SRX and am glad that I did. It appears to me that if you left any money on the table that it was very little. As Mike says, the important thing is that you and the wife are happy owners. May you have many miles of driving pleasure.

    Richard
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    thank you kind sir.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "You don't have to pay benefits to a consultant..."

    Six months after I left in 2005, they wanted me back. I wasn't perfect, but I did work my [non-permissible content removed] off for them. Most of my days in HR were 12 hours, sometimes 14 to 18. On top of having 3,000 employees, I did all of the social event planning for our 43 schools. Three of us took care of HR and I had one assistant for the event planning. As I've said before, my secretary was my right arm.

    They only wanted me back for the following reasons:
    1. Against my advice, the board hired an idiot who had political connections.
    2. I left with 40 years of knowledge and experience in the business.
    3. I took all of my planning and recruitment folders with me, plus my data base of contacts from around the country. After all, I built my own program.
    4. They wouldn't have to pay any benefits---just write a straight check once a month.

    Why didn't I return? They thought that my consulting fee was too high; the college and industry contacts didn't think so. Believe me. It's not because they love you; they just want cheap labor.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "Richard never mentioned how his return to the warm embrace of mother academia has gone..."

    I wouldn't call it "warm" exactly. I'm pretty fed up with the college just now. They wanted 40 young teachers to pay me $150 each for a 30 hour course that they could take on-line for $45. I told the college to scratch my course from the roster. These teachers could use the $105 difference in these hard economic times. I felt that the college was ripping them off. It burns me up because I know that the college just received a $9 million federal grant for just such courses. Someone is messing with the funds. We'll see what the future holds. With the challenges of our new house, I'm just as happy to stay at home.

    As for PhD's, some are credible and some are not. I've know hundreds of "professionals" who have held PhD's. Many of those titled educators earned their degrees at reputable universities in academically strong departments. Others earned theirs through paper mills and on-line fly by night "universities". The sad part is that they all received "equal pay for equal work". In addition, I've seen many "professionals" sit at their work desks and prepare their course work instead of doing their jobs. I'm afraid that work ethics and professional standards do not always coincide with individual pay checks.

    Richard
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    They wanted 40 young teachers to pay me $150 each for a 30 hour course that they could take on-line for $45.

    On this topic, I recently read an article in the newspaper (yes, some of us still get our news that way) that said the university set up will be changing. Why do we need to spend so much money for a big campus and all these instructors when we can do it all online. This way, you can study from home (not go to a huge costly campus), the instructors will be chosen from the very best (You could even have Stephen Hakings for example), tests and exams will be pretty standard across the board.

    I think it could make sense, what say you scholars?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I was wondering...if your car came with Sirius radio was it all hooked up and ready to go?

    When I picked up my bmw last November I had to call Sirius radio on my cell phone, and I had to drive to a spot away from the building, and I had to look through some papers to find a code number, to get my free one year subscription started.

    I was driving the Audi yesterday, and I had remembered we were supposed to get a 3 month subscription for free. I thought they forgot about it, and I wasn't too concerned because it is my wife's car and she just listens to one AM radio station that has news on 24 hours a day. Personally, I like to listen to that station for 5 or 10 minutes at a time to get either the top stories, the weather, or the stock market reports. But, I can't listen any longer because it is the same news, every 10 minutes, all day long - in fact, that should be their motto.

    So, I was surprised when I checked and Sirius was installed and all ready to go. Nice feature,
    I don't know if Sirius got smarter or the Audi dealer was more meticulous.

    btw...Sirius radio expires on the 535 in November, how do you get a good price again, and how much should I pay?

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    I have a neighbor a few houses down who loves cars. He had an E-Class, then he got a giant Lexus (about 3 years ago), now he has a giant Audi, I think an A8.

    I talked to him briefly and he said the Audi was solid like a tank, made of stainless steel, so should last forever. He asked me which car I thought had the smoothest ride. I said probably the E-Class...it seemed to be the longest and most refined of the 3 cars.

    He said it was the Lexus by far, it drove so smooth and quiet.

    I said, that wouldn't appeal to me as much as the Audi or his Mercedes, smooth and quiet isn't what what I am interested in. It reminded me though, how smooth and quiet were the benchmarks of the best cars. They used to drive a Ford with a glass on water balanced and show it didn't slosh over the edge. Or a Ford could be as quiet as a Rolls Royce.

    So, now I understand why some people place such an importance on a soft smooth ride. They think that is the benchmark of a good car. It is for some, but not for others.

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  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    It's not because they love you; they just want cheap labor

    Are you saying that's another reason they called JMonroe back to his engineering job?

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,777
    Driver,
    You reminded me that I wanted to post regarding SIRIUS radio.
    They have a sort of 'win you back' campaign on now, not sure when it started.
    60 channels available even if your subscription has expired.
    I found a classical music channel for my mother, even though her original subscription lapsed.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,474
    I think he meant the Audi is made out of Aluminum, but maybe that is what you call it north of the border? :blush:

    and for Sirius, or new car came with XM (90 days free) and it was all set up already. It was actually live on the car we test drove too, so I think they all just come that way, and as part of the sales process, the dealer tells XM when to let it run until.

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  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited September 2012
    My HP desktop computer died three days ago, fried power supply, according to BestBuy. I looked for my old receipt and found that I had purchased it two years ago. The original manufacturers warranty was for one year and I did not buy an extended warranty. Too bad I thought.

    Then I remembered the complimentary American Express double warranty program on appliances and electronics. If you charged the purchase to your American Express card they would double your manufacturers' warranty. So I called Amex and gave them the spiel. They took my information and said in order to collect on the claim I must present the original receipt. Fair enough, but they also wanted an estimate of how much it would cost to repair the computer.

    I went back to BestBuy to get an estimate but unfortunately they cannot do such diagnostics in-house. If I wished to proceed further they could send the computer to Texas to their repair facilities and that would cost me $85.00.

    To make a long story short when I called back American Express they said they could not honor the claim anyway since I had purchased the computer 2 years and 2 months ago. Thus, it was beyond the warranty coverage period by two months and there’s nothing else they can do for me.

    I know it is difficult to collect on a warranty claim but two strikes is tough to take. But then again that’s what you get for something that is free—nothing! Anyway, I purchased a new computer with my Amex card and hope it lasts longer than two years.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    edited September 2012
    >They wanted 40 young teachers to pay me $150 each for a 30 hour course that they could take on-line for $45. I told the college to scratch my course from the roster. These teachers could use the $105 difference in these hard economic times. I felt that the college was ripping them off. It burns me up because I know that the college just received a $9 million federal grant for just such courses. Someone is messing with the funds.

    Congratulations on showing integrity and character. Mirrors what we saw last week. Congratulations.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "...that said the university set up will be changing."

    It has changed here quite a bit. There are many majors that you can now do entirely online. Still, there are students (and instructors) who desire a physical presence and a greater sense of interaction with one another. I'm one of those. I taught an online class and found it more time consuming (answering questions and giving instructions) and much more boring than had I done it in person. Also, I like to see faces and body language as a clue to how successfully I'm coming across. Times have certainly changed in the field of education---some for the better and some not.

    Richard
  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "So, now I understand why some people place such an importance on a soft smooth ride. They think that is the benchmark of a good car."

    Congratulations! I've waited for years for you to figure this out. :P Seriously, it is a benchmark for some of us---along with performance and power. In my experiences, some cars are smoother than others. My Jeep was like a buckboard; the Explorer was only average; the Miata was like an earthquake, etc. Still, I enjoyed those cars for other reasons. The Lincoln, Cadillac, Grand Marquis, Buick, and others all provided an unusually smooth ride. The smoothest of all rides was the Lincoln. When it comes to a suspension system, they have the market on that. It was difficult to believe how soft and smooth the ride could be on rough pavement and dirt roads. It never ceased to amaze me. The Lincoln was truly my favorite car---plenty of horsepower, excellent handling, great performance, and the added luxury of a superbly smooth ride. It's all in what an individual owner desires---just like purchasing clothes, houses, appliances, etc. Each of us has preferences.

    Richard
  • abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,388
    It has changed here quite a bit...

    When I taught a graduate course in Educational Administration (held at 7:00 PM on campus, 2 days a week for 2 hours), it was essential that the class be held live because of the need for "teaming" by the students. Spontaneity was essential and immediate student interaction necessary in order to achieve curricular goals and concepts. This could not and cannot be accomplished online.

    The real world situations that these students would be coming into contact with as school administrators could not be experienced online either. The course's stated objective was to instill within each student the logical, sequential skills needed to create team building and team decision-making in the face of stresses in the work place - the school, the office, the management structure, the central office (district offices) and the community.

    So, in conclusion, there are certain courses that cannot be held online due to the need for teaming and spontaneity.

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    "Are you saying that's another reason they called JMonroe back to his engineering job?"

    You're crazy if you think that I'm taking that bait. JMonroe is one of my original poster buddies. We've only had one clash in seven years. I don't intend to cause another one. :blush: :shades:

    Richard
  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    "happy wife, happy life." Boy, isn't that the truth.

    I say that is over stated and old school.

    Do it the jmonroe way…when the male is happy the marriage won’t go stale. :)

    jmonroe

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  • sterlingdogsterlingdog Member Posts: 6,984
    edited September 2012
    Mike, you're so on the money with that post. My classes in teacher education required the interchange that only physical presence could provide. My young teachers needed the support, experiences, and camaraderie of one another. You just can't provide that online.

    I've done quite a bit of industry training in team building and adjusting to change. I could never do that training online. The various management levels have to be there in person in order to interact and begin to understand all of the cogs in the company wheel.

    Richard
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    edited September 2012
    A replacement power supply is $25 to $75 depending on the wattage of the original. It can be installed by someone like myself at home with a basic understanding of static electricity.

    Computers from about 2008 have some defective capacitors that were bought by many manufacturers. I diagnosed one for friends that ended up having that problem, which mimicked a defective power supply or mother board problems. Replaced with an on sale HP computer from Staples and they live happily ever after.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    JMonroe is one of my original poster buddies. We've only had one clash in seven years. I don't intend to cause another one.

    Don’t worry about that happening. I can take it.

    I don’t think I’m underpaid since I’m the one that said what it would take for me to come back. It could be argued that I left money on the table, “but it couldn’t have been much”. I never again mentioned compensation. That was also something I said going in and they have not forgotten what I said. When I’ve gotten it they’re the ones that took the initiative and I’m still satisfied. Twice it was less than a year. Like I’ve said before, they were never like this when I was a regular.

    I’d say it’s better now than ever.

    jmonroe

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  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,689
    edited September 2012
    >I like to see faces and body language as a clue to how successfully I'm coming across. Times have certainly changed in the field of education---some for the better and some not.

    Then that means you're not in favor of the elementary and high school charter schools who use online teaching only... They "give" the folks a "free" computer and minor other equipment to have their student "learn" at home.

    The for profit charter school competition for the "free" money supplied by the state of Ohio has gotten to where they advertise against the other online schools, there seem to be 3 or 4 competing.

    They fit into the same class as the ads from the for profit colleges advertising about filling those high demand jobs if you only come there and get government grants and loans and they'll train you. Ohio has been working to put one in this area out-of-business for a couple of years. They misrepresent the availability as well as misrepresent their level of training.

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  • jmonroejmonroe Member Posts: 8,989
    A replacement power supply is $25 to $75 depending on the wattage of the original. It can be installed by someone like myself at home with a basic understanding of static electricity.

    Let’s knock off the computer repair stuff, OK?

    It’s bad enough that I’ve been thinking about mine that was purchased in January of 2004. I don’t need any more talk about this subject. :cry:

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited September 2012
    Why do we need to spend so much money for a big campus and all these instructors when we can do it all online.

    That's a common debate around college campuses. The traditional liberal arts colleges are steadfastly holding on to the brick and mortar model but even them are beginning to concede that both traditional and online instructional models can coexist--and they are.

    A quick anecdote. When Deloitte (a large accounting firm) was considering launching Deloitte University it analyzed the pros and cons of providing instruction only in an online format. After much discussion and analyses the partners agreed to a brick and mortar university. You would think accounting is a discipline that would work well in an online format but the partners believed face-to-face interaction was extremely important to the training of their staff.

    Personally, I am not sure how I feel about it. But right now I prefer a blend of online and in-class instructional formats. My provost strongly believes in online education and has spent a ton of money training faculty. But, the initiative was met with trepidation as mostly the younger faculty have taken him up on the challenge since this will count heavily in promotion and tenure decisions.

    By the way, the same debate is going on about libraries. In an age when most books, documents and papers are found online why build or allocate so much physical space to the library?
  • bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    I don’t need any more talk about this subject.

    It seems as though it's time to upgrade my friend. PCs are reasonbly cheap these and by buying now you would be playing your part in bringing the economy back, not to mention padding HPs bottom line as well.
  • driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,594
    They have a sort of 'win you back' campaign on now, not sure when it started

    Thanks Explorer. Mine doesn't expire until November, but if i don't get a good price I may let it lapse, and then get in on a deal like that.

    I have to check out Canada and U.S. prices, with the Florida address I can probably buy in the US and get a better price.

    I wonder about 60 channels though, I need 50s, 60s the Blend, Love (just because they are nice soft songs), and Howard Stern 100 and 101. Wich you could just buy the 10 channels I could really use.

    2017 MB E400 , 2015 MB GLK350, 2014 MB C250

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