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They stated that they weren't going to charge me a "fair market value" mark-up that many other dealers were charging. They did however add a $1,995 upcharge for a paint and dash protectant. They said they could negotiate it down a little , but this had already been added to the vehicle. How many of you have heard of this desert protection package? I think it's bs myself. I just really wanted the vehicle and they were hard to find in early June when I purchased. It's too bad that the dealers play such games! Out the door my base model (Total MSRP was 24,955)cost me 29,403.83! Taxable seling price was 27288.94 plus sales tax of 2114.89.
What you have was outlawed a few years ago, and I'm guessing you might be able to get your money back on this! Someone else on this board called it "Mop n' Glo".
I seem to remember one of the news magazines doing an expose' on this subject back in the 80's early 90's.
Basically, it's consumer fraud...
Vince.
I started my search with Al Sanchez Mazda in Gilroy, which is where I got the $800 over invoice. Yesterday, I went to Seaside's Cypress Coast which is also a Subaru dealer. Fortunately/unfortunately all of the salesmen were busy with other customers so I was able to sit in some and get a better feel for the vehicle without a salesman breathing down my neck. They had about nine in stock, most were GT models and all without the tech package. At the end, I wanted to talk to the salesman to see what he would be willing to go for.
Since I'm pretty sure that I want to go with the Mazda, I have been avoiding going to the dealership at all cost and have been using the internet sales departments to the full extent. I just sent out several more bids to other dealerships, I'll keep you posted.
It was interesting to be at a Subaru/Mazda dealership since they have the B9 Tribeca there as well. From the side profile, the cars do have a similar look, but there is a significant height/size difference between the two vehicles. I've been going back and forth between vehicles, Rav4, CX-7, and the Pilot. Just yesterday I was reading that Pilot's are going for $6,000-$7,000 under invoice. That puts a Pilot with navi under $30k.. I LOVE the technology on the CX-7 and it's looks, but I wish it were a tad larger. The Pilot on the other hand has the space but not the look. I wish BOTH offered IPOD connections. The Pilot does but you can't get it with models that come with leather..
I'll keep you posted on my efforts, would be great to bounce off dealership numbers with you TopGun.
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/07/26/016069.html
My overall test drive experience was positive,
Pros:
Look.....wow
Acceleration
Interior
Cons:
Air condition, weak, no vent for back seat.
No illuminated Vanity Mirrors ( my lady's complaint)
Just wonder about reliability since it's so new.
We wife(her CX-7) also complained about the lack of lighted Vanity Mirrors. Our A/C seems to cool fine here in hot So Cal. When we have passengers in the rear we shoot the center vent up and back to provide passengers with cool air.
There is no shortage on CX-7's here in So Cal, should have no trouble getting close to invoice.
I just contacted an internet sales representitive for his best price on their copper red awd gt with tech. Can I negotitate downwards from his price? What is the best way to do this?
I'm really new at this.
Thanks!!!
Can't speak to the MPG just yet, but it is 100 degrees F here, and I have had no complaints about the A/C at all. Although... I wish the black leather interior didn't get so hot while parked in the sun. Will definitely be looking into a sunshade for the huge windshield. Stereo is great for a OEM unit. Looking forward to finding a confirmed iPod integration kit - hopefully in time for xmas!
All in all, there are several things that are done "cheaper" than I thought they would be on the car, but there are also many things that are done so well, I wonder "why don't ALL manufacturers do this?" I was cross-shopping the RAV-4 (faster) and the RDX (more luxurious), but this is definitely the looker and the value of the bunch.
As far as the premium gas, I personally don't sweat it too much. I'll be at the pump right there with the guy in his $37,000 RDX...
Ira mazda 2900 off msrp, Quirk mazda 2400 of msrp.
During the week 128 Mazda advertised 2690 off msrp.
I know that these are just to get you in the door, but the biggest factor is that the seven dealers near me have over 250 vehicle in stock up from last week of 230.
Didn't even haggle - they offered invoice, and I took it.
Very nice car buying experience. Pretty soon the CX-7 will take up a place in the garage next to my '93 Miata.
The fiance fell in love w/ the CX-7, and I wasn't going to argue!
The CX-7 is a very good vehicle that brings alot to the table for a very fair price....the word will get out and if gas prices level off a bit the CX will sell fine. Build a great vehicle and people will come.
Vehicle Information:
Mazda CX-7 GT FWD with the Tech Package and Preferred Product package.
Galaxy Gray with Black leather interior.
Gross Cap Cost: 30732.50
Capitalized Cost Reduction(ie down payment/trade in): 0
Residual Value: 17689.95 (57%)
Depreciation: 13042.55
Rent Charge: 4671.61
Total of base monthly payments: 17714.16
36 month lease
15k miles per year
Lease payments 492.06 plus 34.44 taxes
Base monthly payment 526.50
Due at signing 1247.66
I only paid 650 which included first months payment and "app fees". The dealer "absorbed" the rest of the cost of the amount due at signing. Thus bring the actual price of the vehicle to 29688.
Hope this helps everyone in negotiating their leases! I love the car so far. Zoom Zoom!
Forestor XT - the BOMB at ~27k, great view from inside the car, you feel like you r sitting in a art gallery. Great power plus the car like feel - you don't feel like you might topple over when pushed hard. great AWD system. I purposely parked the car with 2 wheels on the road and 2 off and floored the gas - no sign of wheel spin -
CX-7 obviously much better lookin - wifey digs - personally not a big fan of the high azz lines;
PROS- looks
CONS - high center of gravity, I can't handle that feeling of the car lungin when you want to dig into a turn
power - k compared to the forestor
Matrix - totally diffrent league but we want somethin with room inthe back so we can atleast fit 4 or 5 large size suitcases. It would do the trick obviously very very poor in power but great gas upto 35mpg highway.
I am going to look into this Honda pilot thing I heard 5 - 6 k off MSRP..sounds attractive, a bit larger SYV though but if the CX-7 is only going to give 15-16mpg it might not be such a bad option plus you get the open view form the inside as well.
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Vince.
Got the preferred Equipment Package + Digital Compass.
Paid $25400 out the Door from the dealer + Tax + Title.
This is my first car with Xenon lights -- whoo hoo!
-c92
About the regular gas, you need to show the dealer mechanic your owner's manual: He's wrong. Regular gas will kill your mileage, sap your power, and it ain't good for your engine over the long haul. Good luck with your A/C; hope it gets fixed for good.
-c92
Manufacturers can program an engine's computer to get the most out of higher octane gas. With higher octane gas, you can have a higher compression ratio and do things with the spark timing that get more power. When used with lower-octane gas, these compression and timing tweaks can cause detonation (or knock) which is bad for your engine if prolonged. Many (most?) engines have knock sensors these days that can lessen the chance of damage, but the bottom line is Mazda says use premium. I can't remember the exact wording, but again - look at your owner's manual.
"Regular" gas isn't "bad," but your car isn't made for it. That is not uncommon these days.
-c92
Also, thanks to edmunds for the process, I still came in a lot cheaper than TMV.
Thanks
A F
Even with there discounts of around $1,100 on each one, I paid about the same, everything else being equal. So, I think I did OK.
Treated very fairly. Salesman was ill with strep throat but really kept at it. Walked in pretty much knowing what we wanted. Car has AWD, Tech Pack. no remote start or garage signal, no Sirus radio, but nearly all other options.
Very pleased so far, paid an even $31K plus tax.
Salesman keeps checking back every few days to see if all is ok. BTW, to our surprise, when we picked up the car, it had a full tank of gas!!!
when I first got in the biz you got enouogh gas to make it to the nearest gas stations...assuming you didn't turn on the A/C and the gas station was down hill..
4 gallons fuel.... ... $4.00
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