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Then, why are you here? To call them all liars?
Tell us what you paid for your GL.
regards,
kyfdx
Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!
Edmunds Moderator
To answer your first question... No! I am not here to call people liars. I paid $1,500 over invoice for the hottest SUV on the planet. I felt the selling dealer was entitled to make a measly $1,500 profit on a $60K investment that he made. I just got back from my selling dealer and showed him this thread. We work GLFAN's deal backwards TOGETHER on his computer based of a $66,000 MSRP car they had in stock. With $4,100 total drive-offs, the payment was $835.xx with tax. Backing it up to $680 plus tax was a $4,300 UNDER invoice deal.
That deal my friend, like a lot of other deals on this board NEVER HAPPENED. They are nothing more than figments of peoples imaginations.
Also, I am looking my MB contract as I type this. The acqusition fee cannot be altered upward or downward. He said they tried to charge him $1,195? LOL! The bank fee is already IMPRINTED on the contract.
I'll do you one better Mr. Host. Email GLFAN, tell him I live 30-minutes from where he bought his car. I bought my car in Buena Park. And I know Edmunds is in So Cal also. Let's all meet at Edmunds with GLFAN's contract. Before I see his contract I will hand you $2,500 in cash. If GLFAN's numbers hold water to what he previously posted, the money is yours and his. If his numbers do not, I get my money back and you, as the HOST, post a thread here that says: "Not at deals posted in these Forums are true and accurate deals." How about that? I'll be WAITING for a response.
Mr. Host, I know that'll never happen. Guess what I notice while I am browsing on Edmunds.com. On the right side of your pages? And on the left side of your pages? Yah, you guessed it. NEW CAR DEALER advertisments. YUP!!!!! Without them, this site is nothing. Zilch! Nada! People should be aware that what goes on in these forums are not always what truly happens. Coincidentally, someone who actually get a REAL good deal, doesn't need to boast about in these rarely read forums. I would assume that MB has delivered 30-40,000 GL's by now. This thread has under 60-posts, mainly by 3-4 boners who either never bought a GL or have a want or need to brag about how their selling dealer LOST $4,000 +++...
also, your point is well taken that many of the deals boasted on these boards could be misinformation.
Therefore, I am picking up your gauntlet and asking you to offer a similar wager as the one you so demonstrably waived at GLFAN and the host. I bought my GL with cash and have the pink slip. If you prove that my deal was false you can have my car.
If I have been accurate and truthful on this forum then you owe me the pink slip for your car.
Personally, this forum has been very helpful to me, and I have tried to provide useful information to others looking for a GL. I didn't boast about screwing the dealer, but sent them additional business for being low cost, but HONEST.
Hopefully your brain isn't as big as your mouth, and I'll own two GLs soon.
I get your point... you don't think that anyone could have possibly achieved a better deal than you did.. and your dealer agrees with you!!
I guess that proves it... case closed..
Turn out the lights when you leave.. I guess there is no further need for this particular discussion.
regards,
kyfdx
Did you get a good deal? Be sure to come back and share!
Edmunds Moderator
Did you buy your GL for $4,300 UNDER dealer cost? According to your numbers you didn't. That is why I never disputed your posts as nonsense.
I love how certain hosts here bash new car dealers from time to time and they are the ones who indirectly write their paychecks. Seems funny to me.
I am not saying I got the best deal on a GL in the world. Let's define deal:
Deal: a bargain or arrangement for mutual advantage
See, I got the best luxury SUV in the world. And they made $1,500. That's a deal. A REAL obtainable deal. Not some BS $4,300 UNDER invoice nonsense deal that never happened.
Now the case is CLOSED!
That's the problem. Legit deals are hard to figure out on these boards. Every says they got there car for free. Carsdirect just gives you the run around. Go ahead and try them. LMK what happens. Didn't work out for me. 4-months to deliver a truck with no locked in price. I just went to the dealer, worked a deal, and am driving my truck. Very happy to say the least. Real simple. LOL
I suspect you are a disappointed car salesman trying to survive in the internet age. Get with the program, please !
Naw, just tired of people fibbing. Nothing else my friend.
MOST people are here in good faith re: helping others and are not jealous re: if someone gets a better deal. We are all here to help each other.
To add to your comments. Most of us who read these forums are smart enough to know that this is just one of the many tools available to do one's research and I don't make all my auto decisions only based on what is posted on these forums.
But I have to say that I have found a lot of useful information on this forum.
On a separate note, Mercedes is offering low apr financing on the "Hottest SUV on the Planet". Makes you wonder why?
I have never actually purchased from carsdirect but I do use them as leverage in negociations. I usually use carsdirect, a few direct emails to dealers, Costco Auto Buying service, and sites like this. Costco works really good for my new Suburban every few years and carsdirect saved me about $1,000 on on 04 Cayenne because the CarsDirect dealer was low balling to move them and thus helped me with the Newport Beach dealer. Nearly $6,000 off MSRP on a GL450 is below "invoice" so I'm not quite sure if there is a dealer holdback. I know that it pays to shop until a few dealers tell you no.
I don't care about what other people say.
I know I got a good deal, last day to fit in 4.9% financing too.
Consider this.
1. There is a shortage of GL320
2. Color requirements from my wife.
3. Options requirements from ny wife.
4. Look at BLUE BOOK value from KBB, it is over the MSRP.
Good luck all the GL hunter, get away all the bull shiter
gls69,hi so since u own the gl its good rite?how comfortable is it,is it fun to drive?i think the cayenne is not a reliable car all through i am not sure,
guys i dont know but i think the toyotas lexus and mercedes are the most reliable car, i used to like the bmw x5 as well but since i read a message about a guy saying that he bought a brand new x5 and within the next 10 days he had 10 different problems since i changed my mind about bmw.
The confusion you are experiencing is common since individual stories vary widely. The analogy in medicine is trying to extrapolate the validity of a single "case report" vs a double-blind, controlled study with a large sample size. I would suggest you read past posts regarding reliability of Mercedes (bearing in mind that people that do post are usually at either end of the bell shaped curve, i.e. people with "average" experiences are not strongly motivated to post).
With that caveat, my personal experience with Mercedes is mixed. I bought a 1986 420 SEL and it ran for 300K miles with little or no problems. I still have my 1991 500SL which is one of the best cars I have ever owned. In contrast I bought a 1993 190 2.6L and the fit & finish were poor.
Mercedes quality fell off about 10 years ago, and most people will agree that they have been fighting hard to re-establish their reputation for reliability. With that in mind I still bought the GL 450 because it is quiet, handles well, looks good, and can hold both my dogs. I cross my fingers on reliability, but hedged my bets by buying the 6 year, 100K mile warranty. I intend to keep it for a long time if it holds up like my first two Mercedes.
PS I have only owned ONE BMW, a 1998 740iL. However, with
that limited experience, I was terribly disappointed in
what was supposed to be their "flagship" car. I had
numerous problems with it and it didn't help that the
dealer thought I was just "lucky to be a BMW person".
Actually, I dumped the car and bought a Dodge Magnum
and have been happier with it than the BMW.
PPS I apologize to any loyal BMW fans out there before you
start writing in to disagree. That was just MY
experience(n=1).
How many miles on your GL and what do you like and dislike about it at this point?
Haven't driven the new S-class, but wouldn't even try to compare the two. Kind of like trying to compare steak to lobster.
I've never owned a MB. On lux side, I've owned a Landcruiser, Porsche, tricked out Z71 suburban, and some very nice VWs. I've researched like crazy; considered the following:
Acura MDX (not crazy about new body style)
Chrysler Aspen (too boxy,thirsty and expensive for what it is)
Lexus GX (no fold flat and it's a smaller version of my LandCruiser)
Acadia and Outlook (too pricey for what you get), and have decided to go with a GL 320CDI. It fits my needs best; family cruiser, awd, decent MPG with diesel for a suv, nice, lux, and I'm willing to pay for quality. I want to keep my next suv for a long time. So...
I'm about to buy a GL 320CDI w/options (whatever I want) for invoice plus $1200.00. I tested a 450 and a 320CDI R-Class. I liked the torque of the diesel and I'm wanting a highway cruiser with ability to pull a boat and 3 kids.
I will order it and it'll take about 3 months. I can have it brought here to dealer or I can pick it up at the Alabama factory.
My questions are:
1) is this a reasonable deal?
2) should I take delivery at factory or at dealer? (Factory is about 350 miles away)
3) Should I get the DVD kids back-seat system? (one installed at factory)
4)What's reasonable deposit?
5)any other helpful info?
Tom Johnson
However, after owning the GL for four months and 5,000 miles, including many trips to the sierras, I have to say it is the sweetest SUV I have ever driven. It is worth the money, no question.
1)There is a big difference between the R and GL. The GL feels wonderful. It is smooth, responsive and feels much smaller than it is. The R feels like a heavy, big van in comparison.
2) If you are only on suburban streets and have a few kids, the R is probably more practical on a daily basis, since it's easy to get to the back row. On the GL, it's a bit harder to put people in the third row, especially if you have car seats in row 2. On the R, you can scoot down the middle aisle all the way to the back, but you have to pull the car seat and flip the second row seat on the GL.
3) If you are hauling things around, the GL is GREAT. It has a ton of room and can haul a lot of stuff. I recently took 1,000 pounds of flooring in the GL, and it handled fine.
4) If you are going in the snow, get a GL. The air suspension is very slick; I drove through 2 foot snow drifts getting to our cabin, with no skid, or trouble of any sort.
5) The MDX doesn't really compare to either. The third row is similar to the GL's - you have to flip up row two. However, the MDX is a lot smaller inside and nowhere near as plush as the GL. They are simply in a different class.
6) We got the twin DVD screens and they are a godsend on long drives. There are two drawbacks. First, the menu system for the DVD is horrible. It takes a while to figure out how to manage it without accidentally going into the DVD system setup. Second, if you get the DVD, you can't get the ipod dock, which is a really cool accessory. But hey, it's better to have the kids not yelling
7) Finally, it's harder to find a deal on the GL than the MDX or R. Out here they are really pushing the R with discounts and deals. The GLs don't stay on the lot a day. In fact, I had one sold out from under me at the remote dealer when my local dealer arranged a trade. My folks were able to a decent deal ($1k over invoice) on the MDX once they opted for black instead of the black cherry metallic color.
My take: If you can afford the GL, get it. You will love it and won't be sorry. As soon as the diesel is available in California, I will probably trade in my E and get a second GL.
One cost $1200 a month to lease. The other costs $750.
Check out the one in Union, NJ.
I wonder if the GL would compete well against its twin (the Toyota Rav 4)
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Its 1 of the best luxury suv out there,,,Better then all suv
if u go for a mid size suv then there r a lot the 3 best mid size in my opinion r cayenne ML and 3rd x5,