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7). Transmission - Most of the time, the 5-speed automatic shifted smoothly, but forget using the cruise control in hilly or mountainous terrain. While going up a fairly miminal grade in Ohio, the cruise control shifted down at least two gears, as the RPM went from 1,900RPM to 5,000RPM in a blink of an eye. On a level terrain it was perfectly fine, but I ended up not using the cruise most of the time, especially while in NY and PA. I think Toyota has a firmware issue here. Otherwise, I did not experience any of the spiking problems noted in this forum, and the drive-by-wire system felt quite natural.
Again, please refer to my entire post for contexual information, as this was an observation of our experience with a rental of a 2007 Camry SE 4-cylinder 5-speed automatic for a 1,500 mile trip to a family reunion in southwest NY last week.
I certainly observed the cruise control anomalies; surely, Toyota and the dealers know of the problem; if not, the manufacturer didn't conduct too much real world testing!
We have about 1800 miles on the car and it runs great.
Have a great day;
You do need to buy a $17 Ground Loop isolator from Radio Shack to eliminate the electrical ground loop however if you use the aux input (1/8" jack). Otherwise you get buzzing/hissing noise.
The built in FM transmitter works well too but found much interference in So. Calif. with all the stations.
I have gone to the dealer. They found the back tire out of alignment slightly, but this did not fix the problem.
Is this just the way Camrys ride? Does anyone else feel this way? I bought it for safefy, but cannot let go of the wheel for a second as I don't know were the car will go. I feel very unsafe driving this car. I have owned 3 cars and non had this problem.
It covers the diagnosis of whether it is tires or alignment and procedures to fix. Seems pretty straight forward analysis.
For some reason, I've seen a couple of 2007's on the road that have the right rear noticeably out of alignment (camber). Don't know if that is the problem that you had or not.
Anybody else have this issue?
Wrong!!!
Mine is fine as I'm guessing the majority are.
and no rattles, squeaks, groans or other assorted noises. Reasonable gas mileage also.
But let's go to the general Camry discussion for posting pics and for questions about performance parts and such. We'll leave this one for reporting and discussing problems.
Have fun with CarSpace - it's very cool!
190,000 miles on it, all I have ever done is change the oil and put tires on it. I purchased an 07 XLE 6 weeks ago, the transmission went out within 3 days. I was caught up in the problematic transmission saga. Toyota is building me a new one. Cant wait.
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comus,
Was your XLE a V6 or a 4 cylinder? If it was a V6 did you have the snap ring problem?? Can you share with us what specifically you mean "the transmission "went out" "? What exactly were the symptoms? And how is it that they ordered a new car for you immediately? It sounds like the car was totally undriveable.
I've been having RPM flaring (spiking) problems with mine for two months now and I'm still in arbitration with Toyota.
So I guess i got one on toyota. IF they would fix the problem i wouldnt be bitter.
What to do? :mad:
See my post #158 (put that number in the box above).
When you get a case number assigned Toyota should send you information for filing an arbitration case with the National Center for Dispute Settlement. FILE IT!! and go through the arbitration. Just keep a log of everything you've done and go to the arbitration in person...not over the phone. We are in the process of that right now.
You shouldn't have to put up with a "that's the way it works" answer.
For those of you still having problems like I was, the service manager told me that Toyota quit using the original manufacturer of the transmissions, and now has a new one - which is what I now have in my car. So, now we all know that THEY know there is a problem.
Hopefully, my car will continue driving the way it's driving. If any of you need any more information - respond to this message and I'll see if I can't get what you need.
That's funny that the service manager would tell you that. Toyota has always built their own automobile automatic transmissions. (Truck transmissions and 4-wheel drive transfer cases have been farmed out to Aisin when appropriate.) This from a press release in late 2005 about a completed expansion of Toyota's Georgetown, KY plant:
"By 2006, Toyota will have the annual capacity to build 1.66 million cars and trucks, 1.44 million engines, and 600,000 automatic transmissions [emphasis mine] in North America."
Of course Toyota builds automatic transmissions in Japan, too, so maybe your original tranny was replaced with a Japan-built unit. Even these replacements have gone sour according to previous posts, so be ready to take the issue up with your dealer again if necessary.
I seriously doubt that Toyota simply switched manufacturers of their transmissions. The U.S. site for building those is in Buffalo NY. They just set up that site a year ago as cited in an article in a W. Virginia newspaper last year.
It would take about a year to move manufacturing of a system like a transmission from one site to another with all of the tooling, test equipment, training, facilities requirements, Supply chain issues etc.
In other words, I don't believe your service manager if he actually said that.
Having said that, it is entirely possible that there is another site, maybe in Japan, that is ALREADY manufacturing transmissions and they are getting them from there. But "corton" had the RPM flaring issue with his Japan-built Camry XLE V6 so I don't think it matters where the tranny comes from. Also, four people have had their trannys replaced only to experience the problem again!
I believe Toyota is still "shooting in the dark" with fixes. I hope your transmission continues to work well after the 500 mile period that this problem seems to kick in at.
I was a Toyota technician, service advisor, service manager from 1982 to 1999, and my wife has been a Toyota CR and office manager for more than two decades. The complaints on here do not represent the masses; you’ll never please 100% of the people 100% of the time – no matter what you do. Toyota does better than most. In a recent post, when the customer didn’t want to hear that the I4 automatic Camry was operating as designed, Toyota replaced the transmission, and guess what, the car behaved exactly the same, and the customer still trashes Toyota; know what you’re buying! If you don’t want the shifting, buy a vehicle with a higher torque to weight ratio, or get a vehicle with a CVT!
I remember when Camry came out in 1983, with the little 13” wheels, and the hunting transmission and cruise that wouldn’t hold speed – there were lots of those complaints. I remember what Toyota suggested as a response: “Isn’t great though when you fill up your tank and you realize how far you’ve gone on so little gas? Your car does this shifting because it’s trying to always be in the most fuel efficient gear – that’s how you get X mpg”. A similar explanation was given for the cruise losing speed on hills; they lose speed on hills because of lack of torque in a small engine, but the transmissions weren’t as busy as today’s. That said - comparing vehicles from year to year is apples to oranges by the way - the same basic situation exists. The 2007’s CD. Of .28 is far better than previous models, but you’re still trying to move 3300+ lbs. with 2.4 liters, on 87 octane, and get the best performance/gas mileage possible, a very TALL order. The engine must always be at what the engineers have determined optimal rpm’s, given the conditions, to get the best mpg = busy shifting. The “conditions” are determined on the fly via software, which explains why perceived “problems” vary with different driving situations. With every movement of the gas pedal, input from road speed, engine temp. ambient temp. air flow meter sensor, present gear/lock up convertor, and probably more that I’m forgetting, are considered before your car reacts. These cars aren’t responsive, but they’re performing the way they were designed. I didn’t experience the flare or spike some describe when I drove it. Can a software upgrade be done? Quite possibly, but with 9.8 to 1 compression, any real performance changes could require a bump in required fuel octane. Remember, this slight delayed response is in part the fuel system giving the engine fuel in a slightly more gradual way, rather than the immediate and wasteful blast of fuel like older less sophisticated systems did; this reduces emissions (carbon dioxide), something we should all be very concerned about, and it increases mpg.
We have driven the I4 camry and my wife plans to get one soon. We’re aware of the performance issues, we may accept them, or we may get the 5 spd manual.
Of all the I4 automatic camrys sold, Toyota has had very few transmission performance complaints, and there are no new manufacturers as was previously stated. Other carmakers are hearing complaints about drive-by-wire electronic transmissions too, maybe that’s why CVTs are growing in popularity give me a manual anyday.
Lastly, remember, unlike most manufacturers, Toyota tries to look for, investigate, understand, and resolve problems before the NHTSA even gets involved. I’m not “pro” Toyota, but they are poised to take over the number one auto manufacturer spot, and it’s not by accident. We own a 2001 Tacoma S-Runner and 3 BMWs.
Either you didn't research your car, or you got one that really has problems; I would bet that it's the former.
Lastly, 4 cylinder Camrys are literally flying off the lot at our local dealer, if you hate yours so, SELL IT! Life is too short to hate what you drive, and there are people in line waiting to buy your car.
some of the posters had no issue and then thousands of miles into ownership their situation became evident.
i don't believe for a moment these vehicles are performing as designed.
Well, I am going to add my 2 cents CDN to this discussion. I agree, that when buying a new car, take the time to drive it and remember how it drives and try to take away the "excitement" of the new car buying experience. We have a 2007 Camry V6SE and it shifts exactly like all other "drive by wire" automobiles that I own. I posted earlier that we got 37 miles to the gallon on a recent weekend trip and the car only has 2000 miles on it! If I want perforamce, I slap the shifter into manual mode and forget about 5th and 6th gears!
I don't know what else to say, we have owned Hondas(not as good as Nissan and Toyota) and this car is great! I never would buy a 4 cylinder Camry as what was stated is true, not enough of anything in the motor to make the drive enjoyable and as I have stated, the mileage on our V6 is as good.
Actually, we traded in a 2003 Corolla and this Camry, gets better gas mileage.
If the car doesn't perform like you think it should, SELL IT! It's a Toyota, and you will get a very good price for it and you can then buy something that you think suits your driving style.
Anyway, have a great day and don't loose any sleep over an automobile.
You state:
"Of all the I4 automatic Camrys sold, Toyota has had very few transmission performance complaints..."
How would you know this? Can you validate this assertion with proof? What would qualify as "very few"? Have you done a random survey of Toyota dealerships? Are there actual figures available from Toyota to confirm this? If so, that would be very helpful to those of us considering a purchase of a new Camry.
The car is not perfect; every engineering decision carries a compromise/trade-off. If you're interested in a car, go in knowing more than the salesman. Garner ALL the information you can from road test articles, consumer reports, road test one extensively, and make your own informed decision; anything less and you're setting yourself up for disappointments - like many of those describe in this forum.
see the link in this post:
gws, "Engine Hesitation (All makes/models)" #2277, 25 Nov 2005 1:35 pm
to my knowlege on Toyota vehicles, hesitation has been reported by owners of these toyota/lexus models:
Camry
Highlander
Avalon
(Sienna - I've seen a few postings...but not many)
Lexus ES-series
For others:
Toureg and Passat I believe I've seen a few, also a few Honda, but you just don't see the frequency of posts (from owners) for these manufacturer's models.
This suggests some differences in DBW over direct-linkage, but what the owners report for the toyota/lexus vehicles is no hesitation to hesitation from barely noticeable to significant.
Did you get gas mileage from your SE V6 on down hill road or jacked up the car spinning the wheels ?? :confuse:
No, it wasn't "jacked" up! From my previous post #941:
"I just returned from a 200 mile weekend trip with my 2007 SE V6 and the cruise control was flawless! On a steep grade, the car down shifted to fifth gear ONLY and this was not a hill but about a 30 degree rise. Also, we got about 37 miles to the gallon(CDN) driving at about 65-70 miles per hour with the cruise on all the time. "
Also, a couple of times I had the Camry up to about 100 miles an hour, doing some 2 lane passing.
Again, our 2003 Corolla didn't get as good gas mileage at those speeds!
Have a great day!