2010 Hyundai Veracruz

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  • baccus49baccus49 Member Posts: 60
    Check out the new website that has all the features in details.
    http://ad.hyundai-motor.com/catalog/veracruz/index.html
    It has some really neat features and technology.
    The black dashboard trim looks good with the blue lighting.
    This car has changed my views on Hyundai!!!

    *link is in Korean; however, you can click/hover to maneuver around the website. Also, it only seem to work in Internet Explorer.
  • player4player4 Member Posts: 362
    Thursday October 12, 10:00 AM
    Hyundai Motor Co Eyes US Market With Unveiling of New Suv
    SEOUL, Oct 12 Asia Pulse - Hyundai Motor Co. (KSE:005380), South Korea's top automaker, unveiled its new sport utility vehicle on Thursday as it hopes to compete with Japanese rivals in the key U.S. market.
    The Veracruz SUV, equipped with a 3.0-liter diesel-powered V-6 engine that produces 240 horsepower, is a longer and roomier version of the previous model, Santa Fe, with additional high-tech features.

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    "We are confident the Veracruz will be poised as a new global brand for Hyundai Motor after the Sonata and Santa Fe," Hyundai Motor Vice Chairman Kim Dong-jin said in a statement.

    The Veracruz will compete primarily with upper-midsize crossovers, including Toyota Motor Corp.'s (TSE:7203) Lexus RX 350 and Honda Motor Co.'s Pilot, the automaker said.

    The new SUV, named after a Mexican port city, is priced from 31.8 million won (US$33,000) to 41.14 million won, depending on accessories, in South Korea. Hyundai Motor spent 223 billion won and took 26 months to develop the new vehicle.

    The Veracruz will be put on sale in the North American market in December. Next year, Hyundai Motor targets sales of 85,000 Veracruz SUVs at home and abroad,

    Prudential Investment and Securities analyst Yoo Young-kwon said the new vehicle is expected to help Hyundai Motor expand its market share in the United States, unlike the automaker's predecessor SUVs such as the Terracan that were shunned by American drivers.

    However, in a research note, Yoo noted the launch of the Veracruz at home came at a bad time because the government hiked the SUV ownership tax by 17.7 per cent this year amid persistently weak private consumption.

    The new model's introduction followed a series of delays after Hyundai Motor Chairman Chung Mong-koo was arrested in April on charges of embezzlement and breach of trust in connection with a slush fund scandal.

    Chung, 68, was released from prison in late July and is now on trial.

    Hyundai Motor, along with its affiliate Kia Motors Corp. (KSE:000270), aims to become one of the world's top five automakers by 2010.

    However, annual labor strikes and opaque management practices by the Chung family, as well as higher oil prices and a stronger Korean currency, have pushed the automaker to the sidelines, some analysts say.

    (Yonhap)


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    I tried posting this on the section of the Hyundai Veracruz but either i cant or i just dont know how to because i tried clicking everywhere but it didnt let me create a thread with this info on it. If its possible, please transfer the pics and this over there
  • cxccxc Member Posts: 122
    It looks like Lexus RX350 that I had as a loaner car, especially its interior.
  • benzrulezbenzrulez Member Posts: 6
    The new Hyundai Veracruz looks 2 much like the Lexus RX350 from exterior 2 interior. Hyundai should come up with its style and stop infringing on other automakers' style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • benzrulezbenzrulez Member Posts: 6
    it looks like the RX350
  • benzrulezbenzrulez Member Posts: 6
    u r WRONG about "it should be another hyundai we'ev nvr seen b4" Actually its the RX350 for poor people!!!
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    He is correct. It is Hyundai we've never seen before, and since when do poor people buy nearly $30,000 cars. Judging by your grammer, you are one of those poor people.
  • subarufan1subarufan1 Member Posts: 85
    if your poor than i dont think you will be purchasing any new automobile. ;) but i must say this looks very nice but i am troubled by the plastic door handles. something of this price range should have chrome handles no matter what. also i must say i love the design of the seats and the cabin seems to be trimmed impecciably :)
  • subarufan1subarufan1 Member Posts: 85
    whats the tow rating and can anyone venture a guess at off road ability. i know it will be limited but perhaps it might suprise?
  • quattroporte12quattroporte12 Member Posts: 178
    1) Its a Hyundai
    2) Its ugly
    3) Its Hyundai
    4) Its Hyundai
    Who would buy this car over a CX-9 or Q7??
  • carcom2carcom2 Member Posts: 212
    LOL - judging by your spelling of grammer, when it's actually spelled grammar, you might be one of those (fill in the blank).
  • carcom2carcom2 Member Posts: 212
    You have to realize any car looks much different in person. Check out the video on the Veracruz http://veracruz.hyundai-motor.com/. Looking at the video, you have to admit the interior looks much better than the recent photos posted. Doesn't look ugly.

    Comparing it to an Audi Q7 that starts at $39,900 - seems like a fair comparison to you? The top of the line Audi starts at $59,900. How do you like the 91 octane used for the Audi or the gas mileage? The Veracruz mileage is probably better.

    Check this out on the Audi - Fuel consumption:

    Fuel grade Premium unleaded 91 RON / 95 RON recommended for maximum performance

    Urban 16 mpg l/100 km

    Extra urban 20 mpg l/100 km

    Total 17 mpg l/100 km
  • carcom2carcom2 Member Posts: 212
    I have a '97 Grand Caravan with over 100K on it, and it has needed very little work done other than some minor things that most cars need done. It's been very reliable. Still has original engine and transmission and runs fine. They did seem to have a problem with the belt tensioner that needed to be replaced -but no big deal - and the belt tensioner that an independent mechanic put on it, has a lifetime free replacement including labor for installing it,if needed. And has a great paint job too, still has the original shine like when it was new and no rust.

    I own other Chryslers and have had much better luck with them than any Fords/Mercury.

    I would not hesitate to buy another Chrysler basing that on actual experience. What yrs. were the Caravans with the "horror stories" you mentioned?

    I wish the 2008 Town and Country or Caravan where already available to check out.

    Now back to the main discussion please.
  • ykangykang Member Posts: 88
    You need a serious eye examination. And brain too? :P
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    You are very lucky with your Grand Caravan. My father-in-law's business had them as company vehicles, and I think they drove their own cars more often because these things were always in the shop. These were about the same year as your Grand Caravan. I've had pretty good luck with my 2000 Dodge Intrepid ES (3.2L).

    I'm sorry for offending the spelling police, but my "grammar" was correct. :)
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    You could nearly buy two base models of these for a Q7. Hyundai topped Mazda and Audi in initial quality and dependability studies. Ugly is your opinion. With only about 5-10 less hp than the base Q7 and weighing in at nearly 1000lbs less, performance will be much better in the Hyundai, unless you put another mortgage on your house to get the 4.2L V8.
  • loachloach Member Posts: 246
    I have a '97 Grand Caravan too. It's been a good car with only one major problem - the transmission went out at 80K, despite being maintained properly with regular fluid/filter changes. My last 3 new cars have been Chrysler products, with 2 of them experiencing premature transmission failure. My next car will not be a Chrysler product - I'm not hostile to Chrysler, but they'll have to demonstrate better tranny quality before they bring me back into the fold.

    As for the Veracruz, it's a nice looking vehicle, but it's too small to be on my short list to replace the Gr. Caravan. It looks like it will come down to the Acadia/Outlook or CX-9 for me. Most likely the Acadia.
  • hivemanhiveman Member Posts: 10
    I read somewhere that the Veracruz will require premium fuel-any truth to this? That would be a big drawback.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    91 octane unleaded premium gas for best performance
    87 octane unleaded permissible

    This is what is listed for the Azera. What it usually means is that the engine makes a higher peak horsepower rating with premium fuel. So in the Azera's case, it might make 258 or 260hp on regular instead of 263.
  • danny_rhodanny_rho Member Posts: 10
    Veracruz in Korean market are ranging from roughly
    29k to 40k USD.

    In Hyundai's another SUV Santa Fe's case, Korean
    Santa fe was about 4-5k cheaper then North American
    one. This is usually due to bigger engine in North
    American versions. (Probobly bunch of other reasons
    involved... different country, so there should be
    whole list of reasons why pricing is different)

    If this happens with Veracurz as well,
    the Veracruz could start from around 30k which
    probobly prompts some people to say ..

    " WTF? starting 30K for Hyundai ? "

    So, conventionally Hyundai tries to provide very
    low price due to public's bad perceived image/reputation.
    (There are still LARGE number of people who wouldn't even
    consider buying Hyundai, They won't even look at 'em. )

    On thoughts on options available on Veracruz North American
    version..

    Again, conventionally, Hyundai cars released in North
    America have a lot less option compared to Korean market.
    This is again due to public's perceived bad image for Hyundai. So they remove some options and lower the price.
    For example, in Santa Fe's case, following options
    are available in Korean ones but not with American ones.

    -Navigation.(with car maintance system with DVD.
    tells you when to change oil on nice and big LCD
    display.Really brings the luxury to the vehicle)
    -Bluetooth hands free.
    -Beverage Cooler inside of arm
    console.(damn this is sweet.)
    -Self-levelizer.(if the back of car is pushed down
    due to the heavy load, the vehicle's computer detects
    it and levelize the vehicle accordilngly automatically
    )
    -Few better interior touch such as
    fancy Sata fe logo metal door panel instead of
    cheap plastic one.
    -Better stereo system. 10 speaker with name brand
    audio system.
    -Rain sensing wiper
    -Memory seat(must have options if more then 2 divers)
    -brake and accel. padel are electronically adjustable

    and the list goes on.

    And remember- Veracruz is supposed to be more upscale
    model then Santa fe, so if above options are Santa Fe's
    , you can imagine what Veracruz could potentially have.

    But my concerns is, as Hyundai has done so far,
    are they trying to make less-options-american version
    of Veracruz?

    Veracruz is Hyundai's first vehicle to move their
    main target consumer to entry luxury vehicle sector
    of the market, so they might try to include some
    fency features this time.

    Personally, I'm getting new Santa fe, and I sooooo
    regret that I sat in one of my friends Korean Santa Fe
    before I check out North American version Santa fe.

    HID, cooler in the arm console, Navigation...
    Don't have any of these in my Santa fe.
    And still 5k more expensive.

    Darn...
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    As far as Hyundai moving upward, I think everyone would agree the Grandeur/Azera was the first, in the global market. Veracruz should be second in line, and to be followed by the BH RWD luxury sedan. The Santa Fe and the upcoming halo Tib can be considered moving upmarket to a lesser degree as compared to the Grandeur/Azera, Veracruz and BH.

    I really like the Veracruz - striking exterior, exceptional/elegant/luxurious interior creates a great balance. Praising to Hyundai for stitching the Veracruz word into the seats :)
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
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  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    My guess is that pricing will start at about $26-27k. The will put it right in line with the new Saturn Outlook. It is smaller than the outlook, but it still should be pretty roomy, easier to handle and park, and have better performance numbers. I guessing gas mileage will around 18-19/25-26 based on numbers from the Entourage minivan.
  • grutzagrutza Member Posts: 52
    Tidester, are you going to keep the general discussions open for new models, like the Veracruz, until they are released? A month after?

    Thanks for your help
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    That's a very good suggestion! We'll start with the really huge discussions and work our way down.

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  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    It looks great! For those of you who have doubts about it being a "Hyundai" let me assure you that every vehicle that they have recently presented to the public has been a winner. I come from a long line of Acura TL's (6) and in the past 6 months have purchased a 2006 Sonata LX and a 2006 Azera Limited and these cars are nothing short of "awesome". The quality and performance together with incredible pricing and warranty makes Hyundai a winner. Go for it without hesitation. :)
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    The new vehicles have certainly impressed me. For my wife, the Veracruz is a pretty nice package. For myself, I'm waiting for the BH sedan (upcoming RWD sedan with atleast 270hp 3.8L V6, possibly a 4.5L V8 ~330hp. 116" wheelbase!)
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Ditto.

    Minor correction - the V8 is the new 4.6L (the 4.5L is very much dated and borrowed from Mitsu), which debuted in several key concepts. Look for the V8 as an optional engine on the BH - right now rumored 340+hp
  • jd14jd14 Member Posts: 128
    Hyundai sedan with 116 inch wheelbase and 4.6L V8 with 340+hp? Suddenly, the price of this sedan is moving quite far out of Hyundai territory. I'm glad that they are moving up into the luxury market though. The Veracruz and the BH seem to be great vehicles to get into the game with. Also, isn't the BH supposed to be the US version of the Dynasty, with a US version of the Equus, the greatest Hyundai of them all, later to come? Then their lineup would go Elantra, Sonata, Azera, BH, US version of Equus.

    :confuse:
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    It is rumored that with the future introduction of these new "upscale" cars Hyundai may go the way of the other manufacturers ie Honda>Acura, Toyota>Lexus, Nissan>Infiniti and create a separate division. Pretty hard to have a dealership selling low end Elantras and a car approaching $40,000. Even now there is a bit of a "stretch" in the dealers selling the Azera and the lower priced cars. How do they configure their showrooms, and are the right salespeople in place to deal with a clientele that is spending "bigger bucks" and expects to be treated as such? I read in Motor Trend that Hyundai is indeed considering this upscale approach.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I believe the BH is the Equus. I could be wrong. I don't see how they could really squeeze a car into the slot between the BH and Azera.
  • hivemanhiveman Member Posts: 10
    Why do so many suvs/crossovers [Veracruz included] have a wide dark strip around the perimeter of the tailgate window thus further reducing visability thru what is already a small window?
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    BH does not equal Equus; neither does it equal Dynasty.

    The BH will be brand new, on its own new platform too. It will be much different than the Dynasty and the Equus for one obvious reason, BH will be RWD, and Dynasty and Equus are FWD.

    Also, Dynasty and Equus are current sold only in limited markets (its home market to my knowledge), but look for the BH to be a global car.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I thought that the BH was a replacement for the Equus overseas.
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    Some preliminary specs:

    Max. Horsepower, international/metric HP @ RPM (3.8): 260/264 @ 6000
    Max. Torque, lb.-ft. @ RPM (3.8): 257 @ 4500

    Height, with/without roof rack (in.): 71.1/68.9
    Overhang, front/rear (in.): 38.0/42.1
    Wheelbase (in.): 110.4
    Overall Length (in.): 190.6
    Width (in.): 77.6
    Track, front/rear (in.): 65.7/65.7
    Curb Weight, 3.8 2WD/4WD (lbs.): 4162/NL
    Turning Diameter (ft.): 36.7
    Drag Coefficient (cd): 0.35

    Ground Clearance (in.): 8.1
    Approach Angle (degrees): 24.8
    Departure Angle (degrees): 22.7
    Ramp Breakover Angle (degrees): 17.9

    SAE Cargo Volume, 2nd row seats up/folded (cu.ft): 40.0/86.8

    Mike
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    It's a bit smaller than the competition, but with that horsepower, lower weight, and smaller turning circle, it should handle pretty well. I really wish they would release some specs on gas mileage and US options.
  • 07xle07xle Member Posts: 177
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    Well, on paper it looks good, but steering behavior, transmission responsiveness, suspension tuning, and tire grip each weigh heavily in making or breaking a vehicle in the handling department. We'll see....

    The 0.35 c-d rating combined with power and weight restraints seem to indicate that fuel economy was indeed a priority for Hyundai in designing the vehicle. I don't have any numbers yet, but I think we can expect very competitive EPA fuel economy estimates. I'm predicting that a lot of would-be Santa Fe owners may have to rethink things once this rolls out in December.

    Mike
  • easy2t2easy2t2 Member Posts: 31
    I certainly believe if the Veracruz gets the diesel in the USA, it would set itself apart from the competition, even if it's only a 45-state engine, for now. Diesel is the way to go, and MB, BMW, Jeep, Nissan and Honda know this and are getting ready (if not already) to introduce diesel models in 2008. Just watch the news. Once the US public see modern diesel models on the market, current [mostly] negative percention will change.
    If this vehicle would come in diesel, if is almost a sure buy for me. I like the style, specially the interior.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    Everything will certainly depend on more information and a test drive, but Mike is right. On paper, this thing looks pretty darn good.

    The low sulfur diesel fuel needs to become a little bit more prevelent for diesels to become more popular. I think people in the US still have the preconception that diesels are stinky, noisy, and harsh, but manufacturers have made great strides recently to change those perceptions by lowering NVH numbers and pushing for low sulfur diesel like Europe has.
  • solowalkersolowalker Member Posts: 118
    I owned a diesel VW when I lived in Holland 25 years ago...It required more frequent oil changes and frequent injector cleaning.

    She was high maintenance...

    :(
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    Diesel engines have come a long way over the last 25 years. The main things that help a diesel engine last much longer is making sure the fuel is properly warmed in cold weather (you have to get up 5 minutes earlier) and ensuring the quality of the fuel. Up until the recent release of higher grade, low sulfur diesel, which Europe has had for years, diesel fuel was pretty nasty stuff. It smelled awful and didn't do much for the motor either.
  • jasonj734jasonj734 Member Posts: 35
    FWIW - Low sulfur diesel is the only diesel fuel you can buy as of Oct 15th 2006.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    Good! Maybe it will smell a little better being behind a semi. (Then again... Maybe not. :) )
  • jd14jd14 Member Posts: 128
    - Hyundai will release a rwd sports coupe in 2010 (insiders are calling it the Tuscani) as they enter F1 and Korea hosts the Grand Prix. This is big news.

    - A truck is in the product pipeline and will use existing Veracruz/Santa Fe/Entourage platforms. Truck trend has published an article on it this month.

    - The BH rwd 'poor mans Bimmer' is no secret.

    - A version above the BH to rival a 7-series and Lexus LS

    These were all backed by various links, so I'd say there somewhat credible. Looks good. Also, poor man's or smart man's? ;)
  • jd14jd14 Member Posts: 128
    Also a six seater that looks almost identical to the MB R-Class in shape.
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  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    If Hyundai would bring that level of interior and exterior design (except maybe the upside-down Camry grille) to their other models, they would sell TONS of vehicles in the U.S.
  • astorastor Member Posts: 30
    Not to worry, Hyundai already sells a ton of vehicles in North America. I'm willing to bet the Veracruz will be a big hit in the USA/Canada. Honda should be very worried!!!!! I can't imagine the next generation Pilot looking half as good as the Veracruz. Anyone seen the 2007 RDX, MDX and the CRV....all complete styling disasters IMHO.
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