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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Could I get the MF & Residual for a 2019 E450C - 12K/36Month Southern California?
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.00063 and 52%
No lease incentives
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I was curious, I was offered a dealer incentive in the month of December that says it expired on the 31st of December.
Is it common for Dealerships to extend their dealer incentive offer time or is it truly unique?
The dealer incentive was a "Preferred Customer Bonus" sent by mail as my lease on my E400 is ending in a few months.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
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My point is that your "offer" didn't really mean anything to start with, because you don't know what sort of discount they were offering on the vehicle.
But, on the positive side, there has been no changes to actual Mercedes incentives from December to January. So, any deal you could have made last month, should still be able to be made, this month.
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10K / 36 months.
Zip code 19342 (PA).
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$1000 incentive
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.00210 and 59% / 55% / 51%
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
I have been to about 8 dealerships in So Cal for this car and it is a nightmare to understand how each and everyone of them change their pricing so dramatically.
I want to give you two scenarios and hear your thoughts;
Dealership 1:
E450C 2019
MSRP: $70,445.00
Sale Price: $63,460 (At first they told me $59,990 but said that included Cap Cost Reduction)
MF: .00063 (Now agreed to this after they initially said .00212 with the $59,990 price above)
Residual: 52%
Terms: 12/36
Acq. fee: $795
Registration: $717 (every dealership gives this a different number)
Down Payment: $5000
Total Drive Off: $7114
Payment W/ Tax $784
Dealership 2:
E450C 2019
MSRP: $65,215
Selling Price: $58,700
MF: .00063
Residual: 52%
Terms: 12/36
Acq Fee: $1095
Registration: $619
Doc Fee: $85
Flat Ad/County Fee: $11
Tire Fee: $8.50
Electronic Filing Fee: $30.00
Smog Abatement Fee: $20.00
1st Month Payment: $730.47
Fees & Insurance: $773.75
Upfront Tax: $379.06
Cap Reduction (Cash): $3,905
Total Drive Off: $5,788.28
Payment Monthly W/ Tax: $730.47
I am so confused by both offers so any help would be appreciated.
On another note, I found another one and can you tell me if these numbers make sense;
MSRP: $69,405
Sale Price: $61,000 (12% off MSRP - I believe this is doable?)
Cap Cost Reduction: $5000 (down payment)
MF: .00063
Doc: $80
Acq. Fee: $795
Terms: 12/36
Residual: 52%
Registration: $717
Tax: 7.75%
Total Drive: $6884
Monthly W/ Tax: $690
What is realistic as this is such a nightmare!
I truly appreciate this site as I have a lot more confidence going into these negotiations, but still get so confused as to how they do their numbers.
Thanks,
36 month lease, 10K miles a year.
In general, they add up to about 1.1% of MSRP
CA dealer doc fee is restricted to $80 max
MBFS acquisition fee is $795. Dealers are permitted to mark it up to $1095, for extra profit.
I'm not sure why you are confused. All of those deals are fairly similar, and mostly vary due to the difference in MSRP. Dealers are independent and prices are agreed to by negotiation. I wouldn't expect them to all be the same.
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The money factor markup is adding $53/mo. to the payment
Selling price is just 5.3% off MSRP. That's not amazing, and certainly shouldn't come with a money factor bump.
None of the other numbers look out of line.
It's weird that the money factor they used goes out to 6 digits. I've never seen that before.
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I got the number not at 12% above, but the internet sales guy (have not walked in yet) took the car down 11% ($61,753)
Considering All Numbers above stay the same (residual and MF) and I put down $5000
Can I realistically expect a $680-700$ month payment a month?
Please offer some advice of how I can walk in and just close this deal.
Many thanks
$5000 CAP reduction
$800 DMV/doc
$387 upfront tax on CAP reduction
$706/mo. 1st payment (including tax)
$6893 due at signing.
$655/mo,+tax = $706/mo.
You are assuming a very large discount from MSRP. If that's lower than a dealer will go, instead of telling you that, they agree to it, but then markup the money factor. (most likely).
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I got the number not at 12% above, but the internet sales guy (have not walked in yet) took the car down 11% ($61,753)
Considering All Numbers above stay the same (residual and MF) and I put down $5000
Can I realistically expect a $680-700$ month payment a month?
Please offer some advice of how I can walk in and just close this deal.
Many thanks
Depending on the year, model and location of the deal, the discount varies...I got my 2019 E300 4Matic at a 15% off discount when I signed my lease last week, and I'm pretty sure I could do more if I was willing to wait for another week or two. So don't be afraid to ask for more discount...unless you absolutely need a specific color or package that is rare, or you need the car right now, which would probably put you in a less favored position.
Also be confident with your calculation online or on your own spreadsheet. Dealers would try to hide things from you especially when it comes to MF so don't buy what they say if the payment is not what you would expect. Ask for their manager and sit down with them so you can go through every little detail on their software.
7.5K & 10K 24 months
7.5K & 10K / 36 months
7.5K & 10K / 42 months
7.5K & 10K / 48 months.
Zip code 90048.
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Standard MF and 62% / 55% / 51% / 48%
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Can you please provide MF and RV 12Kmils/36months for E450 Coupe (NY/NJ area)
Thanks in advance
.00056 MF and 52% residual
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What's the incentive $1000? could you elaborate on that? no dealer has mentioned an incentive to me in my search this week.
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7,500 miles a year, 36 months, $0 down.
The dealer is quoting me a MF of 0.0008 or so. I have read earlier that the MF should be closer to 0.0056.
They claim that the lower MF is only for returning leasers with MB.
Any truth to that? What should I counter with?
.00056 MF for AWD
Those are the base rates for any lessee with top tier credit.
MBFS might have loyalty incentives, but they don't have anything to do with the money factor.
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Standard MF and 54%
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BMWs have never had holdback. But, they have other factory-to-dealer incentives that make up for that.
Trying to calculate the dealer's cost is wasted time. You want the lowest price you can get, regardless of their profit or loss. Get competitive quotes from more than one dealer.
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MSRP: 73,600
Selling: 68,405 (7.7% off MSRP)
MF: .00056 Residual: 52% 36 months
Monthly: $895
Above is the deal on the table, however, my final ask target selling price of $66,905 (10% off MSRP) will get me to $853 monthly
Once we agree on the base numbers (hopefully 10%off MSRP) , I 'm planning to roll in the Acq $795 + Tax into the deal.
Comments and thoughts on this deal are very much appreciated.
Let us know how it goes. Good luck!
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Can I get the MF, residual for a 2019 E300 RWD 10k/24mo zip 94010? Thank you.
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Can you please provide MF and RV 12K/36M & 12K/42M NY area
or any good deal on it.
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54%/50% residual for 36/42 mo
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MSRP: 73,655
Sell Price: $67,027 (9% off MSRP)
MF: .00056 and 52% RV (thank for info on this forum)
Monthly before tax $856
Tax is $2200,
Monthly including tax $917
Part of "final deal" is 3 yr Svc maintenance that added $13/mo or $468 (IMO worth it because Svc B alone in my area is $600-800.
FINAL Monthly is $930
Acq 795, Doc fee 499, First month 930, Titles $630 (total due at sign: $2800). Note that intially Acq is $1095, I noted its marked up and quite surprised how easily they knocked it back down to $795
Finally, I have a coupon of $500 from USAA they say they will accept, I may apply to due at sign to lower it.
Also, this is an early return lease with 4 payments to go ($500/mohth). 3 will be waived off and will pay one out of pocket.
Thoughts on the deal?
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