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Infiniti M35/M45 and Bluetooth

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  • I bought an M45 Sport about 3 weeks ago and then purchased an AudioVox smt500 cell phone from Cingular. The phone is not listed on the Infiniti site as an approved phone, but with the help of a salesperson at the Infiniti Dealer we got it working in about 5 minutes and it's a great phone.

    By the way, I had one of the first Treo's that came out (the 600) and ended up actually giving it away and going back to my old Palm M500 and old cell phone. The Treo was cumbersome, a lousy phone and a lousy PDA.

    Check out that Audiovox smt5600....
  • pete_l_ppete_l_p Posts: 322
    The Treo was cumbersome, a lousy phone and a lousy PDA.

    I had a treo before switching to a samsung i730, which I switched to because I wanted the fastest mobile internet access (verizon's EV-DO provides 700kbps, which I really, really like).

    Sorry to disagree, and no offense intended, but I had a completely different take on the treo. I felt and continue to feel, that it was the most convenient and best designed PDA ever. IMO it is an absolutely wonderful, elegant and useful device. Just saying.

    BTW If you had a problem with the treo 600's keyboard, note that the 650 KB is much, much easier to use.

    Pete
  • I also love my Treo 650. Just hoping it works ok with the M45 Sport I'm ordering 'cause there seem to be mixed reviews on how well Infiniti handles the pairing (I just installed the Cingular 1.17 upgrade.)
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,339
    I just installed the Cingular 1.17 upgrade

    What is this upgrade?
  • bp714bp714 Posts: 18
    My Sprint Treo 650 works great w/ my M35x. In fact, Bluetooth connectivity is one of my favorite features.

    It's my understanding that the Cingular upgrade, like the previously released Sprint upgrade, improves Blutooth functionality with various cars. It worked for me!

    Just go to the Palm site, find the upgrade for your carrier and follow the instructions.

    BTW, I agree that the CURRENT Treo, the 650, is the best phone /PDA combo available, IMHO.
  • I have not tried this with the M yet, but you might try adding a voice mail entry in the address book with your voice mail access number followed by two commas and then your voice mail password. Each comma adds a second or two pause which is just enough time. I have had success with this in other situations with Verizon.

    Example: *86,,1234

    Goog luck
  • Hi,

    I have the same problem. I am really disappointed that infinity does not make an effort to fix this problem. I am currently fighting with infinity customer service to find a solution. Keep you apprised.
    JK
  • pete_l_ppete_l_p Posts: 322
    If you're on verizon, try turning off "Voice Privacy".

    If you have it, it can be found on the settings screen or security screen on the phone itself.

    Pete
  • rrobrrob Posts: 51
    I know there have been a lot of cell phone linkage questions. I just got my new V710 (Verizon service). So far I like the phone and it is easy to link with the car. A couple of hints: it is worth it to set up a shortcut to turn the Bluetooth feature off when you don't need it: battery life is really shortened by leaving Bluetooth on all the time. It is easy to do, just select the "shortcuts" menu on the main screen (it's the arrow in a green box). The phone guide you from there. Secondly, this phone, with Verizon, does not have "voice privacy", so no need to turn it off to enhance the sound in the car.

    I've made a number of calls and the quality is very good with my set up.

    Hope this helps someone out there.

    rrob
  • kck2kck2 Posts: 1
    I have a M45 Sport with the Tech and Journey package and my wife has noticed that when I am on the phone (using Treo 650 Bluetooth enable phone), she can hear my whole conversation when I pull into the garage. Anyone else noticed this? My wife couldn't necessarily hear my side of the conversation, but the she could hear every word of the person on the other end. Luckily, it is rare for my to be talking at a stoplight when people are around, but I will now be very careful about what I say.
  • Hi, I noticed that you linked your treo 650 to your M. I have not been able to do so. Can you provide some tips? Thank you. :confuse: :blush:
  • Similar observation about sound from my M, on my first fuel-up with my M35. After filling up, I started the car and got out to take a look at the exterior. The XM radio was on at the time, and all car doors/windows closed. As I walked around the car, I was shocked at how clearly and loudly I could hear the radio FROM OUTSIDE THE CAR! Based on previous posts about road noise, I am forming the opinion that, perhaps the soundproofing materials used in the M's may be inferior or insufficient. On my previous 7 vehicles, there is no way the music would sound that loud standing outside of the car. I will now try using my RAZR to see if the conversation can be heard outside as you've experienced....very curious!

    -Dirk
  • hyekhyek Posts: 1
    I just purchased an M35x and would like to take advantage of the bluetooth capability. My cell phone provider is Verizon and they offer a couple of the Motorola phones. Which phone should I purchase?
  • docnukemdocnukem Posts: 485
    I have the V710 from Motorola and it works okay (is does sound like a speakerphone on the other end). The 815 (or something like that) is the successor to the 710, so it probably works as well or better.

    Verizon is now offering the RAZR, too. See if they will let you try them out. They do have a 15 day return policy.
  • smosessmoses Posts: 4
    My M35 is the best ride I have ever experienced. Fantastic car. My ONLY complaint is the Bluetooth mike sound quality. In other words the people I'm talking to experience poor sound quality (bowl or tunnel sound) when I'm driving freeway speeds. No problem with reception on my Blackberry 7520... I'm in the cellular business. I'm trying to determine the cause... I suspect the M has a noise canceling feature and such causes the tunnel sound. Any Infinity or Bluetooth techs out there, any remedies? Does anyone have better luck, like with the Treo 650? Do any of you use the built in Bluetooth for day to day business conversations?
  • pete_l_ppete_l_p Posts: 322
    I don't know if you're using verizon, or if this can be done with the blackberry, however, what you're describing is a common problem with verizon that can be easily handled with some of their phones.

    Many verizon phones have a setting for "voice privacy" which is the default setting, and tends to reduce sound quality. If you're using verizon, if you can find a voice privacy setting on the blackberry, perhaps in the phone settings dialogs, and if you can turn it off, you'll probably handle your sound problems.

    That totally handled my problem with my samsung i730, and helped several other verizon users, with other phones.

    Pete
  • Pete,
    Thanks for the tip. I too have had microphone probs. Just switched privacy on my
    LG Verizon phone from enhanced to standard setting. Hope it improves reception on other end.
  • smosessmoses Posts: 4
    Thanks Pete. Actually using a Nextel Blackberry. The speakerphone on the device actually sounds better than the Bluetooth in the car. I tried the Treo 650, Sprint version, and it sounded about the same. Better at low speeds, smooth roadway, less wind. Funny... had the Treo in the trunk and it still worked through Bluetooth.

    I'm a salesman so I want my callers to hear me loud and clear without the distractions associated with a speakerphone. Next to the phone itself, nothing beats the sound quality of a wired headset. A Bluetooth headset comes in a close second though.

    I will use the Bluetooth for casual talk, but for business... it will be the headset.

    BTW... For those looking to make a purchase. Please don't read into my comments above that the M's road noise is loud. It's a very solid luxury sports sedan and the sound proofing fits the car. It's actually not bad at all.
  • varixvarix Posts: 72
    I successfully coupled my new Cingular Treo 650 (and of course the 700W comes out 2 days later! Arrrgghhh!) with my M35x without problems last week. Yesterday I loaded the Treo program VoiceDialit (for dialing numbers by speaking them into the phone) and noted that the phone would couple with the car OK but it would not dial out unless I dialed from the handset. Once I removed VoiceDialit all was well. Just a warning if you decide to download this program and run it on your M35/45 coupled Treo, you might also get problems.
  • jimlipjimlip Posts: 4
    Greetings,
    Just found this forum while searching for info on the M45. I'm looking at the same group of cars that everyone does and have narrowed search to M45 and a couple of others. I just have a couple of questions for whoever has the answers/time/inclination to help out:

    1. Having driven the M35x and M45 i found the 45 to be a much sweeter ride and my wife has a 4 wheel drive that i take when it's slippery out (i drive a LS430 now - looking for something 'sportier'). So i'm mostly interested in the best drive in good conditions and would rather spend more if it takes it to get that. Has anyone driven both and found the AWD to give a better ride on dry pavement (cornering etc)?

    2. I'm at the point of getting a new cell phone and would rather wait and get one that i know interfaces well w/ the M. Has there been any sort of consensus of which phone(s) work easiest and sound ok with these cars? id' rather not get a phone and then get the car and have to struggle to get it working.

    3. Has anyone who got a black M regretted getting black? I think black looks the best when it's clean, and i know it's tough to keep clean...but my neighbor has a black accord and going through the car wash seems to have left tiny scratches all over it and it doesn't even look so great in the sun anymore. I figure some cars have better paint or perhaps the paint protection film makes a difference. Just thought someone out there might have some input.

    Thanks in advance to anyone who helps out.

    Jim
  • Jim,

    Can't answer with regard to the 4WD, but I got the black on black M45. My first Infinit was a B on B G20 which I loved. My second was an UGLY silver I30. I hated the color from the momemt I drove it off the lot.

    I garage park my cars, so keeping the Black clean is pretty easy. I also added a 3M "clear bra" to my M45 to protect the paint. Looks beautiful and 100% invisible at most angles.

    Any car shop can get out the swirls for about $75. Just be careful where you take it for a wash.

    As for Bluetooth, Infiniti shows only a few models that are tested compatible, but ANY Bluetooth phone should work. I had a RAZR for a couple of weeks, and thought the sound was fine (people on the other end thought it was OK too). One warning about Bluetooth - it is murder on battery life. That's why you usually have to turn Bluetooth on every time you power up your phone. Leaving it on all the time will make your charge last a couple of hours - even in standby - if you're lucky. You could always leave the phone connected to a charger in the car but Infiniti doesn't have a 12V outlet in the center console box, so there's really no out-of-the-way place to hide the phone. If you store the phone in the box, it does have a channel that allows you to run the charging cord out of the box to the back set outlet. Of course, if your car has the DVD player in the console box, you'll have room for little more than a cell phone (thanks, Infiniti)... Even so, you have to turn Bluetooth on (on your phone) every time you enter your car, which is a hassle (at least on Motorola).

    If you can find a phone with a battery that lasts at least 8 hours in standby with Bluetooth ALWAYS enabled, let me know - I'd buy it.

    My mileage has been lower than I expected: pegged at 17.1. I drive 60% freeway and 40% surface streets. Not very good for a premium car. My wife's little Lexus SC430 convertible is getting 20.0 MPG (also on premium gas), and she is in rush hour traffic every day. That car has a V8 also, and only weighs about 400 pounds less.

    Every Infiniti I have owned has had disappointing mileage.
  • jimlipjimlip Posts: 4
    Brian
    Thanks for taking the time. I want black most and i'm thinking it's worth cleaning it a little more often and i'd gladly pay to have the swirls out.
    I have the razr and the battery is already suspect (i've had it a year, so maybe time to get a new battery). i figured turning it on would be a hassle, and i don't use my phone all that much, but if i know i'm going to i'd liek to be able to activate it and use it w/ no hassle getting it to link up.
    I'm zeroing in on the B on B 45 like you have (drove the gs430, RL and A6 over the weekend). I'm glad to hear you reccommend the "clear bra" b/c i was wondering about that but i haven't heard many people talk about that.
    I'm not too concerned about the gas mileage at this point. my company pays for fuel.
    Thanks again for chiming in.
  • nycdudenycdude Posts: 33
    Regarding the Bluetooth phone, I have a Verizon Motorola E815 and the standby time is not bad at all with Bluetooth always enabled. I last charged it 2 days ago, have had it on all day today, made a couple of calls yesterday, one today, and it still shows a full 6 bars on the meter.

    The phone has a few drawbacks, but that's not one of them.

    Mileage-wise, I've got almost 3k miles on a 35x(took delivery late October)and am getting just about 20. Although I live in NYC, most of my driving is highway.

    No quality issues to report.
    :)
  • I've had my black M35 for 4 mos. Bluetooth on MotV330 phone works perfect and I have not experienced any excessive drain on my battery. I keep it on all the time. As others stated, it should work on any new phone with bluetooth capability. Seat heater/cooler works fine for me, but cold in Arizona is not the same cold in northeast. I "dusted" my car every day the first few weeks. Now down to once a week. The dirt shows...but the look of the car in black is worth it.
    No problems. Love the car.
  • rrobrrob Posts: 51
    1) I have an M45, and have driven an M35x several times. The 45 is noticeably faster, both cars handle very well. No dry pavement advantage for the 35x that I can tell. I know 4wd is used in some performance cars (like Porsche) to handle the HP, but the 35x doesn't have that much HP.

    2) I have a Verizon Motorola E815, and agree with the other posters. Good, but not great sound, no real battery problems, easily holds charge 2 days, during which time I make 10-15 calls, total ~60mins talk time, and drive for about 3 hours total. Its easy to turn Bluetooth on and off with this phone, but I usually forget and leave Bluetooth on all the time.

    3) My car is black/black and still looks great seven months since purchase. I have mine washed every 2-3 weeks at a place that hand washes and 'details' cars for $20, no other special care.

    good luck, rrob
  • I have a black on black M35 and am very happy with it; picked it up 4 days ago. This is my second black car. The M35 replaced an black Acura. With only a little extra care, black cars look great.

    I have a Motorola V60 phone and the bluetooth works great. I leave it on all the time and usually charge it each night and haven't noticed any excess battery drain. The sound from my end is good and most people on the other end say it sounds like I am on a speakerphone, but are OK with it (I am, after all).
  • johnhwjohnhw Posts: 111
    I can respond to the Black M question. I own an M45 sport which has black exterior and stone interior. I love the black exterior and do not regret it at all. The stone interior is striking with the sport package interior features such as the aluminum dash accent. I love this car and color it rocks as one write said. Mileage is about what I expect. Overall I get 18 and up to 22 on the highway at 80 mph.

    Get the black M45, you wont regret it
  • guedoguedo Posts: 32
    With regard to Bluetooth and phone selection, it is a crap shoot. Your Bluetooth will either work great or not at all. I have been through 10 phones over as many months, and I have not found one that works sufficiently.

    I bought a Black on Black M35 and IT LOOKS AWESOME!!!! I do not regret getting the black at all - even after 11 months of ownership (purchsed: 2/28/05). I tinted all windows including the windshield and it cuts down on heat (I live in Palm Springs, CA - 120* during summer). I also put some 18" chrome wheels to complete the car. I would recommend having a mobile detailing company come to your home/office and clean it weekly. I have no swirl marks and it is NO more expensive than a car wash! I also have a complete detail done every 3-4 months. Black does require a bit more work, but it's worth it when you factor in all of the admiring stares as you pass through an intersection!
  • guedoguedo Posts: 32
    Although the sound quality on my M35 (via bluetooth) is atrocious - the LG XV8100 has an outstanding battery life. I use my phone about 4000-5000 minutes per month, and 75% of the time I am in my car - with bluetooth enabled at all times. I can count on one hand (with fingers to spare) the times that I have not made it through a full day/night. I always leave my phone on (literally 24 hours/day) and I charge it while I sleep, then I am good to go for 12 hours of chatting and standby (again with bluetooth enabled). I would recommend the phone - but not in conjunction with the car! Well, to be honest from my experiences - I wouldn't recommend the car at all :shades: .
  • jimlipjimlip Posts: 4
    Thanks All for the replies. I'm sold on blk on blk. I'm just about sold on the M45 too. Here's the thing tho. car payment is my company's, not mine.

    I drove a MB CLS500 and it was nice. But it'd be pretty stripped to be even comparable to a loaded M45. I know it's not a fair question. Loaded+ M for a little less M than a MB CLS500C w/ just heat/cooled seats and a couple other things for more $. Anyone driven the two? I ruled out the RL (weak) and the GS430 (small/nothing exceptional) and any american cars and the E500 (blah) and am left w/ M vs. CLS. I know...apples to oranges.... I see it as: flashy and slick vs. blander and loaded. Anyone have any input?

    but it'll be blk on blk either way...and thanks for the feedback...i appreciate it.

    jimlip
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