Hello, and thanks for your work on the forum! May you please share incentives and MF/RV for a 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 36/12k, 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. I know there is the City of Chicago use tax to be added after the calculation, but this would be a small business expense (otherwise leasing, and this car, would not be something I'd be willing or able to do).
Thanks!
.00145 and 58% (36/12) or 55% (42/12); no 39 month residuals $1000 incentive
Hello,
I went to see a 2019 C43 AMG (coupe, mind you). Local dealer in Chicago is offering $1,065.25 a month, $0.00 down, 36 months/12k, and $960.25 for 48 months, same terms otherwise. Mind the City of Chicago use tax of 9%. They also offered a "balloon" deal at $1011 and $891, respectively. MSRP = $66,195. Selling price = $59,800 and they are throwing in $1,800 for me to "buy out" my own current lease.
I'd love your feedback and input on that. Another local dealer was offering slightly lower prices for a lower MSRP sedan, but did not show their numbers. Thanks!
Hello, and thanks for your work on the forum! May you please share incentives and MF/RV for a 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 36/12k, 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. I know there is the City of Chicago use tax to be added after the calculation, but this would be a small business expense (otherwise leasing, and this car, would not be something I'd be willing or able to do).
Thanks!
.00145 and 58% (36/12) or 55% (42/12); no 39 month residuals $1000 incentive
Hello,
I went to see a 2019 C43 AMG (coupe, mind you). Local dealer in Chicago is offering $1,065.25 a month, $0.00 down, 36 months/12k, and $960.25 for 48 months, same terms otherwise. Mind the City of Chicago use tax of 9%. They also offered a "balloon" deal at $1011 and $891, respectively. MSRP = $66,195. Selling price = $59,800 and they are throwing in $1,800 for me to "buy out" my own current lease.
I'd love your feedback and input on that. Another local dealer was offering slightly lower prices for a lower MSRP sedan, but did not show their numbers. Thanks!
Leasing in the City of Chicago is always going to be expensive, with the combination of the state sales tax and the Chicago use tax.
36/12 on C43 Coupe - .00125 and 53%
What is the net cap cost on that quote?
So, they are giving you the money for the remaining payments, but you keep your car? If so, then you assume all the lease end risks.
Might be better to wait for the lease to be up, then start shopping.
Hello, and thanks for your work on the forum! May you please share incentives and MF/RV for a 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 36/12k, 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. I know there is the City of Chicago use tax to be added after the calculation, but this would be a small business expense (otherwise leasing, and this car, would not be something I'd be willing or able to do).
Thanks!
.00145 and 58% (36/12) or 55% (42/12); no 39 month residuals $1000 incentive
Hello,
I went to see a 2019 C43 AMG (coupe, mind you). Local dealer in Chicago is offering $1,065.25 a month, $0.00 down, 36 months/12k, and $960.25 for 48 months, same terms otherwise. Mind the City of Chicago use tax of 9%. They also offered a "balloon" deal at $1011 and $891, respectively. MSRP = $66,195. Selling price = $59,800 and they are throwing in $1,800 for me to "buy out" my own current lease.
I'd love your feedback and input on that. Another local dealer was offering slightly lower prices for a lower MSRP sedan, but did not show their numbers. Thanks!
Leasing in the City of Chicago is always going to be expensive, with the combination of the state sales tax and the Chicago use tax.
36/12 on C43 Coupe - .00125 and 53%
What is the net cap cost on that quote?
So, they are giving you the money for the remaining payments, but you keep your car? If so, then you assume all the lease end risks.
Might be better to wait for the lease to be up, then start shopping.
Net sales price is $65,916. Leasehackr has monthly payment w/ tax at $894 (without the City of Chicago use tax). Their offer doesn't seem too far off but my math may be incorrect. I should clarify that my current lease is non-MB (VW). My fiance needs a car soon and we are looking at VW/Audis for her. My car is a business vehicle, so leasing is advantageous. I'm going to stay away from their balloon loan for that reason.
Hello, and thanks for your work on the forum! May you please share incentives and MF/RV for a 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 36/12k, 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. I know there is the City of Chicago use tax to be added after the calculation, but this would be a small business expense (otherwise leasing, and this car, would not be something I'd be willing or able to do).
Thanks!
.00145 and 58% (36/12) or 55% (42/12); no 39 month residuals $1000 incentive
Hello,
I went to see a 2019 C43 AMG (coupe, mind you). Local dealer in Chicago is offering $1,065.25 a month, $0.00 down, 36 months/12k, and $960.25 for 48 months, same terms otherwise. Mind the City of Chicago use tax of 9%. They also offered a "balloon" deal at $1011 and $891, respectively. MSRP = $66,195. Selling price = $59,800 and they are throwing in $1,800 for me to "buy out" my own current lease.
I'd love your feedback and input on that. Another local dealer was offering slightly lower prices for a lower MSRP sedan, but did not show their numbers. Thanks!
Leasing in the City of Chicago is always going to be expensive, with the combination of the state sales tax and the Chicago use tax.
36/12 on C43 Coupe - .00125 and 53%
What is the net cap cost on that quote?
So, they are giving you the money for the remaining payments, but you keep your car? If so, then you assume all the lease end risks.
Might be better to wait for the lease to be up, then start shopping.
Net sales price is $65,916. Leasehackr has monthly payment w/ tax at $894 (without the City of Chicago use tax). Their offer doesn't seem too far off but my math may be incorrect. I should clarify that my current lease is non-MB (VW). My fiance needs a car soon and we are looking at VW/Audis for her. My car is a business vehicle, so leasing is advantageous. I'm going to stay away from their balloon loan for that reason.
With the prices supplied, I get $983/mo. What has been added to the $59,800 selling price to get to the $65,916 number?
$795 acquisition fee (often marked up to $1095) Dealer doc fee? IL State tax? Anything else?
The numbers available to me:
- MSRP $66,195
- Sales Price $59,800
- Fees $400.81
- Sales Tax $5,715.46
- Net Sales Price $65,916.27
2 dr/coupe, 2019
The tax amount is wrong - IL taxes the sum of the payments, not the entire selling price.
Looks like they are giving you a purchase quote, not a lease quote. If they can't, or won't, accommodate you, move on to another dealer.
Gotta be plenty in the greater Chicago area.
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Is it safe to say the monthly payment will be quite a bit lower, all things considered equal, on the sedan versus the coupe?
The numbers available to me: - MSRP $66,195 - Sales Price $59,800 - Fees $400.81 - Sales Tax $5,715.46 - Net Sales Price $65,916.27
2 dr/coupe, 2019
The tax amount is wrong - IL taxes the sum of the payments, not the entire selling price.
Looks like they are giving you a purchase quote, not a lease quote. If they can't, or won't, accommodate you, move on to another dealer.
Gotta be plenty in the greater Chicago area.
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Is it safe to say the monthly payment will be quite a bit lower, all things considered equal, on the sedan versus the coupe?
Yes, with similar MSRPs and discounts, the sedan will have a much lower payment.
Two options after some back and forth, with one more likely to come back tomorrow. All are 42 months, 12k/yr., sedan, $0 deposit in 60614. These are out-the-door with the 9% city use tax included:
- MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $887 per month - MSRP $70,720, sale price $63,648, giving me $2,000 up front, $988/month
The first one ticks nearly all of my boxes, whereas the second is near-fully loaded and outside of my budget. Do these look like ok deals? Thanks!
Two options after some back and forth, with one more likely to come back tomorrow. All are 42 months, 12k/yr., sedan, $0 deposit in 60614. These are out-the-door with the 9% city use tax included:
- MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $887 per month - MSRP $70,720, sale price $63,648, giving me $2,000 up front, $988/month
The first one ticks nearly all of my boxes, whereas the second is near-fully loaded and outside of my budget. Do these look like ok deals? Thanks!
42/12 .00106 MF and 48% residual
First deal: On a 42 month lease, at the base MF, there would have to be around $5000 in extra charges to get that payment. Is it just first payment Due at Signing?
Two options after some back and forth, with one more likely to come back tomorrow. All are 42 months, 12k/yr., sedan, $0 deposit in 60614. These are out-the-door with the 9% city use tax included:
- MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $887 per month
- MSRP $70,720, sale price $63,648, giving me $2,000 up front, $988/month
The first one ticks nearly all of my boxes, whereas the second is near-fully loaded and outside of my budget. Do these look like ok deals? Thanks!
42/12
.00106 MF and 48% residual
First deal: On a 42 month lease, at the base MF, there would have to be around $5000 in extra charges to get that payment. Is it just first payment Due at Signing?
$795 acquisition fee
$2400 sales tax (est)
$400 IL DMV/dealer doc fee
That leaves us about $1400 short ... Makes me think they've marked up the acquisition fee and the money factor.
The second deal looks a lot worse, even accounting for the extra options. Just say no to that one.
Just first payment due at signing on the first. Taxes rolled in. Finally, one more dealer is now offering 42 months/12k first monthly payment due @ $916 a month and $2k dealer check issued to me. MSRP on that vehicle is $65,295. They wouldn’t give me the sales price. I’ve ruled out the $70k MSRP vehicle. Thanks for your feedback!
Looking for current residual and mf for 2019 sedan 19465. Received a quote for 2020 order (I realize values will change when announced and delivered) but quote was based on current values to give me an idea
msrp 63850 purchase 57465 12k - 3 year At 5k out of pocket , i am at 714 month
is that reflective of base mf? .00157 is what I was given
Looking for current residual and mf for 2019 sedan 19465. Received a quote for 2020 order (I realize values will change when announced and delivered) but quote was based on current values to give me an idea
msrp 63850 purchase 57465 12k - 3 year At 5k out of pocket , i am at 714 month
is that reflective of base mf? .00157 is what I was given
thanks
2019 36/12 .00128 MF and 57% residual
You can't extrapolate 2020 model numbers from the 2019 program.
Looking for current residual and mf for 2019 sedan 19465. Received a quote for 2020 order (I realize values will change when announced and delivered) but quote was based on current values to give me an idea
msrp 63850 purchase 57465 12k - 3 year At 5k out of pocket , i am at 714 month
is that reflective of base mf? .00157 is what I was given
thanks
2019
36/12
.00128 MF and 57% residual
You can't extrapolate 2020 model numbers from the 2019 program.
Thanks - so they are indeed marking up mf
totally understand can’t extrapolate - trying to get commitment on discount and not marking up mf
Hello. I'm back looking for May 2019 updated figures. 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. Two dealers made offers at the high end of my budget at the end of April for 42 months, 12k/yr., sedan, $0 deposit in 60614, with the 9% city of Chicago use tax included, first months payment due then drive off: - MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $1,800 dealer cash up front, $930 per month - MSRP $65,295, sale price not disclosed, $2,000 dealer cash up front, $916/month
Hello. I'm back looking for May 2019 updated figures. 2019 C 43 AMG Sedan: 39/12k, and 42/12k? Zip = 60614. Two dealers made offers at the high end of my budget at the end of April for 42 months, 12k/yr., sedan, $0 deposit in 60614, with the 9% city of Chicago use tax included, first months payment due then drive off: - MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $1,800 dealer cash up front, $930 per month - MSRP $65,295, sale price not disclosed, $2,000 dealer cash up front, $916/month
Sure. 42/12k, city of Chicago, $66,650 MSRP, sales price $60,050, ended up paying $915 a month zero out of pocket with $2300 cash back up front. The sales price was a little high for me but the cash back upfront sold me. The monthly payment works quite well with my business’s budget. It’s a high payment but such is life leasing in Chicago and it makes sense leasing as a small business owner. Thanks again for your info.
Sure. 42/12k, city of Chicago, $66,650 MSRP, sales price $60,050, ended up paying $915 a month zero out of pocket with $2300 cash back up front. The sales price was a little high for me but the cash back upfront sold me. The monthly payment works quite well with my business’s budget. It’s a high payment but such is life leasing in Chicago and it makes sense leasing as a small business owner. Thanks again for your info.
Thanks for the report. Those Chicago lease taxes are a killer.
They really are. Effectively a Chicago car lease is taxed at nearly 20%. 9% city of Chicago plus 9.5% for the county. Manufacturers will offer “balloon loans” with a fancy name to help provide a lease like option that circumvents the 9% use tax. Nonetheless, a traditional lease was the only route to go for me for the reasons I discussed before.
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I went to see a 2019 C43 AMG (coupe, mind you). Local dealer in Chicago is offering $1,065.25 a month, $0.00 down, 36 months/12k, and $960.25 for 48 months, same terms otherwise. Mind the City of Chicago use tax of 9%. They also offered a "balloon" deal at $1011 and $891, respectively. MSRP = $66,195. Selling price = $59,800 and they are throwing in $1,800 for me to "buy out" my own current lease.
I'd love your feedback and input on that. Another local dealer was offering slightly lower prices for a lower MSRP sedan, but did not show their numbers. Thanks!
36/12 on C43 Coupe - .00125 and 53%
What is the net cap cost on that quote?
So, they are giving you the money for the remaining payments, but you keep your car? If so, then you assume all the lease end risks.
Might be better to wait for the lease to be up, then start shopping.
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$795 acquisition fee (often marked up to $1095)
Dealer doc fee?
IL State tax?
Anything else?
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- MSRP $66,195
- Sales Price $59,800
- Fees $400.81
- Sales Tax $5,715.46
- Net Sales Price $65,916.27
2 dr/coupe, 2019
Looks like they are giving you a purchase quote, not a lease quote. If they can't, or won't, accommodate you, move on to another dealer.
Gotta be plenty in the greater Chicago area.
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Yes, with similar MSRPs and discounts, the sedan will have a much lower payment.
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Can I get the MF and RV for C43 2019 sedan 36/10 and 36/12 for 95054 May? Thanks in advance.
.00128 and 57%
$1000 incentive
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- MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $887 per month
- MSRP $70,720, sale price $63,648, giving me $2,000 up front, $988/month
The first one ticks nearly all of my boxes, whereas the second is near-fully loaded and outside of my budget. Do these look like ok deals? Thanks!
.00106 MF and 48% residual
First deal: On a 42 month lease, at the base MF, there would have to be around $5000 in extra charges to get that payment. Is it just first payment Due at Signing?
$795 acquisition fee
$2400 sales tax (est)
$400 IL DMV/dealer doc fee
That leaves us about $1400 short ... Makes me think they've marked up the acquisition fee and the money factor.
The second deal looks a lot worse, even accounting for the extra options. Just say no to that one.
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msrp 63850
purchase 57465
12k - 3 year
At 5k out of pocket , i am at 714 month
is that reflective of base mf? .00157 is what I was given
thanks
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You can't extrapolate 2020 model numbers from the 2019 program.
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totally understand can’t extrapolate - trying to get commitment on discount and not marking up mf
thanks!
RV
MF
Incentives
33901
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2019 Sedan - 48/10
2019 Coupe - 48/10
Coupe: .00106 MF and 45% residual
$1000 incentive on either model
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- MSRP $66,160, sale price $59,650, $1,800 dealer cash up front, $930 per month
- MSRP $65,295, sale price not disclosed, $2,000 dealer cash up front, $916/month
Would love to get some feedback. Thanks!
42/12 - .00128 and 54%
$1000 incentive
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1) 2019 C43 Coupe RWD 36/10k
2) 2019 C300 Coupe RWD 36/10k
I live in CA
C43: .00106 MF and 53% residual. $500 incentive
C300: .00107 MF and 55% residual. $500 incentive
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Sedan: .00128 MF and 58% residual. $1000 incentive
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Thanks in advance!
Recently leased a 2019 C43 sedan at 36months/15k in Southern California.
MSRP: $64,415
selling price: $54,603 (15.23% off)
MF: 0.00128
Prepaid maintanence: $1,645 ($300 discount)
Paid all taxes and fees at signing including a $1,095 acquisition fee which they were unwilling to discount
Monthly payment $742.15
53%/49% residual
$1000 incentive
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24/10k
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MF
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33901
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