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  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    Do you have a day off work on St George's Day? Us North Americans don't seem to have enough paid Holidays. My clients from Brazil claim that they have at least 22 paid Holidays in their country. This is not including paid vacation days... :surprise:
    Speaking of international food, I love the Brazilian BBQ meat buffet. The only countries that produce both good cars and foods are probably Italy and Japan.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Hola Jose

    Man after the blizzard of special days here, I for one don`t need a St Georges Day :) I think our next one is Memorial Day, which is sort of the start of Summer....I was wondering id the price of fuel goes up as our fuel does?? My understanding is that the Europens have alot of tax added, and if the tax were a constant, then it wouldn`t go up as fast.....Our country, spread out so far, and very little public transportation---is just stuck in a rough spot....Your descriptions and life in Spain, I appreciate...Thanks Tony ps Remember what you don`t know about the old bmw, you don`t want to know, and that is why you have a splendid new one :)
  • tx_buzzardtx_buzzard Member Posts: 130
    "Also. TagMan is still nowhere to be found."

    I noticed that myself. I hope it is because that 135 is more fun than he thought possible, and not something more serious! :confuse:
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Do you have a day off work on St George's Day?

    That depends on the region/province. There is a number of paid Holidays common to all provinces and others particular to each of them. All in all, they should add up to 36 days in every site, apart from 30 paid vacation days.

    Here are the EU Countries that have more and fewer number of paid Holidays, apart from paid vacations:

    EU average, 34 days

    Finland, 44 days
    France & Letva, 40
    Estonia, Austria & Malt, 38
    …
    Ireland, 29
    Romania, the Netherlands & the UK, 28.

    Thus—and extending a former Anthon's remark—some may rule :confuse: :sick: , but others enjoy… :shades: So far, so good.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    EU average, 34 days

    You are sure having a lot of free time to enjoy life.
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Hola, Toni

    Prices in Bilbao are as for today:

    Premium unleaded gas, € 1.227 per liter (US$ 7.43 per gallon)
    Diesel fuel, € 1.137 per liter (US$ 6.89 per gallon)

    And taxes are about 50% out of each price.

    Still a good idea to buy a diesel car, though taxes have increased for diesel fuel from 44% to this 50% along the last three years.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    The word came down yesterday from Auto Motor und Sport that the Volkswagen TDI hybrid Golf concept that debuted in Geneva wouldn't make the transition to production. According to the print edition of the German rag (translation courtesy of TTAC), the "forward-looking diesel-hybrid is already a thing of the past." That came as a surprise considering how well the concept was received and rumblings we heard from VW's people on the floor that the 69-mpg (European cycle) Golf was destined for the road. We shot off an email to a Volkswagen exec here in the States who responded by saying that, "It was just a concept. No plans to produce were announced." Too bad. Guess we'll have to make due with the gasoline-hybrid Golf that's due out in the next few years.

    image

    Source: Autoblog

    So the wait continues...
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    You want to retract that statement?

    No!

    Audi is growing faster but it still is not close to both MB and BMW yet in terms of global sales.

    Remember this has nothing to do with BMW and MB being better cars than Audi. I am speaking strictly in terms of sales.

    The Audi Q5 may replace my wifes 530xi Touring.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    I was trying to say that many good restaurants in Japan refuse to enter in the surveys done by occidental experts for the restaurants to be included/qualified, for instance, in the Michelin Guide or other Restaurant-quality listing.

    My misunderstanding. I just couldn't fathom in a country like Japan there would be such a thing as a racial discrimination restaurant policy .

    Thanks for clarifying since now I can stop my Sushi boycott and discontinue cooking my own fish.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Yes! Believe it or not. There is a good likelihood this may happen in just three years.

    A Canuck Alfa Romeo built in small town Ontario? Sounds even sexier than built in Milan IMO. ;)

    Wholly gripes I can just imagine the 2012 Consumer Report ratings on these cars. :lemon:
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    The form of the food on the plate, the rarity of the food itself, the subtle touches of color and texture are all important in western cuisine but do not reach the significance that they do in the East

    Whenever I eat in a fancy restaurant and spend a lot of money I end up regretting it because I feel I did not savour the food since my conversations with a dinner partner/partners distracts me from my food.

    Undistracted mindfulness and high concentration is the most important thing in enjoying any meal, fancy or non-fancy. Even a single unsalted walnut tastes fantastic if you concentrate on what you are chewing.
  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    I've been in some variety of the food business my whole working life.

    I will tell you that I third the remarks from Tony and Jose that the best meal is the one eaten under an open sky and with a minimum of fuss.
    Some of the greatest restaurants favour simplicity over complexity, I find I really have to be in the mood for 'serious' food but simple, wholesome stuff that tastes like it's original ingredients without an over-dose of garnish or dressing up is always the best!

    I think the intriguing facet of Eastern food and the complexity of the rituals around it is that the truly signify something. In alot of high western cuisine, the additional pizazz usually just signifies a desire to be noticed by a NY Times restaurant critic.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    I absolutely love a high end restaurant and consider myself quite a connoiseur of food and beverage. ;) But this really isn't the place for an extended discussion on the subject.

    I invite anyone interested in continuing this very interesting thread to fire up a new discussion on the topic over on the Off-Topic Chatter board. That's the perfect place.

    But here, let's come on back to the subject of cars, okay? :-)
  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    I always drive to the restaurant... :)

    Point taken.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,620
    It's a lot like herding cats, but a lot of fun to watch.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    OK Pat,

    I checked out that Edmunds site. It's called "Diet and Nutrition" and it consists of one single post:

    Do you consciously diet or try to follow the pyramid to maintain a healthy weight?

    Sounds like a site for retired burnt out connoiseurs who have given up on all fine restaurants after a doctor's appointment. ;)

    Anyways back to fine cars versus fine foods.
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Member Posts: 1,150
    ESF, while I am prepared to agree with everything you say, your post illustrates my post: Infiniti doesn't have a well defined niche in its corner of the market. If you can't define yourself, you are doomed to fail IMHO.
  • blckislandguyblckislandguy Member Posts: 1,150
    Ah, interesting question. I'll take the bait. A poser car is probably one that advertizes what it can't deliver. Certain Korean cars could be called poser cars because they are clearly lux car knockoffs. But, I don't think that there are many poser cars anymore as much as poser owners. OK , then what is a poser owner?

    Maybe the best definition is subjective: A poser is someone who drives a car, usually leased, for social-psychological reasons unrelated to objective criteria such as performance, handling, ground clearance, cabin noise, etc. etc.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Um, I said nothing about the particular topic that you mention, I invited anyone interested to make their own about restaurants and fine dining. I think it could be very interesting if those of you who have been so enthusiastic about the topic here would participate. ;)
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    You stated that the G35 was rated above the GS. However, the GS hybrid is the #1 rated vehicle in this class and, of course, is rated above the G35. The G35 is also rated below the IS in this category.

    And you're cherry picking with the GS hybrid. I stated that the G35 is more reliable than the ES, which it is, and comparable to the IS, which it is. I also said the M is more reliable than the GS, which it is. The GS hybrid is "nearly hand built" in a special factory, which is why there's such a huge quality discrepancy between it and the regular GS.
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    IMHO the brand lacks the acceptance that Lexus has achieved. Nothing stands out: certainly not the reliability, customer service, cache, etc. I've never,ever seen even a post comparing it to MB.

    Where does all that money go when you buy a MB? Is a Mercedes the fastest? Nope. Best handling? Nu-uh. Most luxurious? Not really. Most reliable? Absolutely not. Does it offer the best electronics? You've got to be kidding.

    The stars of the Infiniti stable are the G and M. You get about 90% of the performance of a 3 or 5, with stellar reliability and electronics far superior to iDrive. Also, only Infiniti offers a Japanese alternative to the Cayenne or X6 type of V8 SUV hotrod. Lexus and Acura have absolutely nothing that can compete with the FX50.

    Considering Infiniti has really only been a credible luxury brand since 2003, (all the earlier cars with the exception of the short lived M30 convertible, J30, and Q45 were transparent Nissan rebadges) I think they are doing pretty well. I think we're going to be seeing a lot more from them in the next 10 years.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    What is your pleasure concerning the ultimate drive to a five-star establishment?

    Regards,
    OW
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Where does all that money go when you buy a MB?


    Some of it goes to those off-shining front/tail lamps!! :confuse:

    Regards,
    OW
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Here is a statement from Autospies regarding 335 v. 135:

    Which Is The Better Car? 2008 BMW 135i vs. 335i Review

    After testing BMW 135i and 335i coupes back-to-back, I can reveal that there are only two good reasons to purchase the smaller, cheaper car.

    Either you need a track day machine or you're an idiot. Otherwise, spend the extra bucks and buy the 335i coupe. The 335i coupe is more attractive, more enjoyable to drive, holds its value better and offers far more real road usability than the 135i.


    I will only know after first-hand drive but it's interesting some of the irregularities put forth regarding the 1'er. Can this really be the case?...only TagMan can help here!

    http://www.autospies.com/news/Which-Is-The-Better-Car-2008-BMW-135i-vs-335i-Revi- ew-28867/

    Regards,
    OW
  • tx_buzzardtx_buzzard Member Posts: 130
    Premium unleaded gas, € 1.227 per liter (US$ 7.43 per gallon)
    Diesel fuel, € 1.137 per liter (US$ 6.89 per gallon)


    Good old taxes. Premium unleaded here in Houston is $3.46/gal. which is about $0.10 below the national average. God bless America, and thank God for Houston. :shades:
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Yes, but you used your cherry picked example of the G35 to conclude that the entire Infiniti brand had surpassed Lexus in reliability! I was merely pointing out how ridiculous that is. You could just as easily use the example of the Q 56 to conclude that Infiniti has worse reliability than Mercedes.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    Nice re-direct!

    Here goes:
    Napa/ Sonoma Valley- 1961 Chevy Apache pick-up truck. Classic, farm vehicle, gets the retro-organic-refit witth bio-diesel nod.
    Manhattan- Is there really anything other than a black MB S-Class?
    Paris- Citroen DS 21. With a Gitane in hand.
    London- Aston Martin DBS. Absolutely.
    English Gourmet Country pub- Land Rover Defender, diesel.
    Barcelona- Jose's 335D! (I know you're not in Barca Jose, it's just the only part of Spain I have actually eaten in)

    And that about sums them up for me.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    A poser is someone who drives a car, usually leased, for social-psychological reasons unrelated to objective criteria such as performance, handling, ground clearance, cabin noise, etc. etc

    I would say that describes 95 percent of all luxury car buyers. The other 5 percent attends Edmunds forums, reads car mags and is very conversant in automotive specs.

    In fact I can argue that very same point for most luxury goods and services.

    Higher prices are an indicator of "superior quality and performance" and so people who want better things just pay a higher price without actually knowing why. Not many people have the time to research all the attributes of their purchases.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Where does all that money go when you buy a MB? Is a Mercedes the fastest? Nope. Best handling? Nu-uh. Most luxurious? Not really. Most reliable? Absolutely not. Does it offer the best electronics? You've got to be kidding.

    Based on the criteria above it is so easy to shoot down any brand. Substitute MB with BMW, Lexus, Jaguar and Infiniti (as was done before), even Lambo and it will be easy to conclude that all luxury brands are inferior.
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    A poser is someone who drives a car, usually leased

    That's at least 50% of the BMW owners to ya...

    social-psychological reasons

    That pretty much covers 95% of the MB and Lexus crowd...

    IMO, a poser is someone who bought the car for a purpose that's different than the car's mission. For example, a person who bought a 3er for its luxury and the badge on the hood is a poser to me.
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Barcelona- Jose's 335D! (I know you're not in Barca Jose…

    Oh, never mind. My daughter is in Barça. 700 miles of happy all-round 335d driving! And in addition to this driving and the pleasure to stay with her, I use to enjoy there theater/music plays and nice meals!

    Regards,
    Jose
  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    Is it possible that a poser buys something that makes a statement to others regarding wealth/ status/ image?
    In that definition the Prius driver who buys it because it makes their buddies think they are cool is as much a poser as the guy that buys the AMG C-Class.

    In the final analysis there is very little that any of buy that we buy with no thought to how it informs others opinions of us. In effect, while none of us are average, we are all posers. And should be proud of the fact!
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    I have just read (Spring issue of BMW Magazine over here) that BMW is launching Advanced Diesel with BluePerformance in the USA next Fall. Reportedly they will sell 335d sedans and X5's. On BMW Magazine on-line there is already some promotional video. Interested posters may have a look at:

    link title

    Regards,
    Jose
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    I invite anyone interested in continuing this very interesting thread to fire up a new discussion on the topic over on the Off-Topic Chatter board. That's the perfect place.

    Hi Pat, on my part, I feel you may transfer the fine food/restaurants posts recently posted here to start a new thread on the Off-Topic Chatter. Then we will see if these posts attract others on the subject. :shades: The other poster fellows on the subject should agree to this suggestion, nevertheless. What do you think?

    Regards,
    Jose
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Emerging reports suggest that the next Audi S4 will ditch the current model's V8 and open up the gap a little with the top-of-the-line RS4 with a new supercharged V6. Bearing the 3.0T or TFSI badge, the 2010 S4 could benefit from "twin-charging" with the possible inclusion of a turbo in addition to the supercharger.

    With a potential unveiling at the LA Auto Show in November, the supercharged S4 is also tipped to feature a Magna-sourced "sport differential" like the ZF unit featured in the BMW X6, bringing the fight to the turbocharged BMW 335i, while the RS4 takes on the M3. While power will likely remain similar to the current 339-hp 4.2-liter V8 and weight only marginally reduced by 100 lbs or less, the purpose in switching to forced induction would be to improve fuel economy while returning comparable performance. The S4 is also expected to be developed outside Quattro GmbH, while the RS4 would be created by the Audi performance division, giving the former a more restrained look compared to the all-out bulging bodywork of the latter. The forced-induction V6 is also tipped to replace the 3.2-liter V6 in the base Audi A6 Quattro.


    Source: Autoblog

    Now Audi is talking my kind of car! If this is indeed true then I'll have to seriously consider it as the replacement of my current ride. :surprise: :surprise: :surprise:
  • bristol2bristol2 Member Posts: 736
    Great idea!
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    IMO, a poser is someone who bought the car for a purpose that's different than the car's mission. For example, a person who bought a 3er for its luxury and the badge on the hood is a poser to me.

    So I am real, after all! I could care less if they took the badge off and half the options. Gotta love the bluetooth, though...but the drive is where the money talks, IMHO.

    Regards,
    OW
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,582
    Poser = a puzzling or baffling question

    I think what you all mean is poseur.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Carnaught all this post of yours for naught

    Definition of a poser is one who poses. Another equivalent word for poser is poseur

    link title
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    In the final analysis there is very little that any of buy that we buy with no thought to how it informs others opinions of us. In effect, while none of us are average, we are all posers. And should be proud of the fact!

    True! As you said a poseur/poser is someone who has a very high self esteem and who thinks he or she deserves the best in which most cases the "best" is based upon the opinions of others.

    Just call me a proud poseur. ;)
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Good idea!

    Though I dont think we will end up having those brutal Lexus versus BMW type of exhanges that we have here, unless someone in that new forum says that McDonalds coffee(based on Consumers Report) is better than Starbuck's French pressed Sumatra blend then look out!!
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Dear Pat

    I sort of feel like all the people on this channel are sort of friends, in an interesting way, with a moderator who keeps things on track...Therefore what ever anyone says takes on a meaning, where as on the other channels--not all--I don`t feel as though I know any of them...I guess it`s sort of like `caring`....As for yourself, did you pick up the other hour of sleep this Spring-with the change on DST ? Tony
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Heh, Tony are you asking me if I have recovered from losing that hour of sleep when the time changed a while back? Does it seem like I haven't?? :P

    This is a unique discussion and one I enjoy very much, largely because of what you say. But honestly, I think you all do yourselves a disservice by not looking outside of here every now and then. We really an awful lot to offer. You don't have to check it all out, but an occasional check outside the window is not a bad thing.

    Some of your mates here already know of what I speak!

    Jose, last night I decided I would do just what you suggest, start a discussion and move those posts there. It's going to take me some time to get it done. If I can do it tonight, I will. Thanks for the prod!

    And thanks to all of you for being a great group of people who have fascinating conversations. This discussion is often the highlight of my rounds on the Sedans board. :shades:
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    This particular forum should be required reading for every debating class in the country! :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Agree!

    The Lexus vs. BMW debate should be the standard case study for all debating classes. ;)
  • reality2reality2 Member Posts: 303
    Agreed blckilandguy with your definitions for the most part. However, I would tweek your defining characteristics of Audi a bit as follows:

    AWD Luxury Performance/Design/Progressive/Nonconformist

    Where BMW, MB, and Lexus owners zig, Audi owners like to zag as the saying goes. We're very proud of that.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Where BMW, MB, and Lexus owners zig, Audi owners like to zag as the saying goes. We're very proud of that.

    That zig zag slogan was used for Cadillac Catera in the 90s.. Unfortunately that slogan did not attract as many non-conformists to a Catera as GM had expected.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,620
    ". . .someone who has a very high self esteem. . ."

    Interesting. I've always thought that people who need symbols to show others have lower, rather than higher, self-esteem.

    People with high self-esteem often drive old cars, wear clothing they like and may very well use a Timex watch. They don't feel the need to impress anyone.

    I've had this conversation before on Edmunds on other boards, and several are quick to point out that in certain business situations you "are what you wear/drive/etc." That Rolex you wear tells the person you're shaking hands with that you're worthy.

    Include me out.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    Based on the criteria above it is so easy to shoot down any brand. Substitute MB with BMW, Lexus, Jaguar and Infiniti (as was done before), even Lambo and it will be easy to conclude that all luxury brands are inferior.

    The point I was trying to make is that a MB is often the most expensive vehicle in a class, and yet doesn't seem to have much to show for it. For a buyer interested in more than just 3-pointed star badge prestige, Infiniti could be a credible alternative.
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    Now Audi is talking my kind of car!

    Same here. I am very interested to see what Audi decides to do with the replacement for the V6 A4 and A6. If the A6 3.0T becomes the base car and yet packs 340hp+, what happens to the A6 4.2?
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