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  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    When far more power lithium ion batteries are in cars there may be even more of a electromagnetic threat.

    This article is the one article that has made me re-consider buying a hybrds just as avoiding bargain priced houses beside a high voltage utility line.


    In a statement, Toyota said: “The measured electromagnetic fields inside and outside of Toyota hybrid vehicles in the 50 to 60 hertz range are at the same low levels as conventional gasoline vehicles. Therefore there are no additional health risks to drivers, passengers or bystanders.”

    The statement adds that the measured E.M.F. in a Prius is 1/300th of the European guideline.

    The tests conducted by hybrid owners rarely approach the level of thoroughness of those run by automakers.

    Donald B. Karner, president of Electric Transportation Applications in Phoenix, who tested E.M.F. levels in battery-electric cars for the Energy Department in the 1990s, said it was hard to evaluate readings without knowing how the testing was done. He also said it was a problem to determine a danger level for low-frequency radiation, in part because dosage is determined not only by proximity to the source, but by duration of exposure. “We’re exposed to radio waves from the time we’re born, but there’s a general belief that there’s so little energy in them that they’re not dangerous,” he said.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Although there were no bargain priced houses in Key West, the ones that I looked at a number of years ago, that were near high powered lines--I rejected--just for this reason.....In a nutshell, do you , or any other posters, think this is a valid fear about hy-bred cars? For sure it is enough to make me pause...Tony PS Had some product from Canada today--fish-- It comes in a frozen container, and cost four dollars plus for two nice pieces and very tasty...
  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    It will be interesting to see the new A6 E class and 5series all will have big improvements

    The next A6, which will probably show around 2011-12, will also be based on the MLP architecture and should definitely be an improvement over the current car. I don't really like any of MB's recent styling efforts, and the next E is no exception. Ugly.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    It's not a question of only electromagentic levels but also the duration of your exposure that matters and for someone that drives a lot that just may be an issue.
    I sympathize for the majority of NYC taxi drivers that soon may be forced to drive hybrids. IMO those cabbies will be better off driving new low emissions diesels.

    Canadian fish? Yeah Pacific Wild Salmon is amazing. High Omega levels that is supposedly good for the heart and no high toxicity levels like farmed fish. Anyways I yearn for those great seafood restaurants that you have within your Floridian vicinity.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Almost as certainly, the new M3 will be compared with its competition-- the ultra-powerful Mercedes C63 AMG, the poised Audi RS4 and Lexus's new-kid-on-the-block IS-F. My expert wild-[non-permissible content removed] guess is that the rorty Bimmer will continue to reign supreme, its sophistication edging out the rough-and-tumble AMG, its road holding trouncing the capable but softer Audi and also leaving the new Lexus in its dust by dint of its more aggressive personality.

    But, truthfully, none of the aforementioned represents the M3's prime competition. Indeed, theMcar's fiercest foe may come from the company's own showroom in the form of the nearly new 335i. Marry the 335's twin-turbo six with BMW's own sport suspension package and some sticky rubber and you have a sporting car worthy of the BMW name with enough left over to buy the kids a Honda Fit for college graduation.


    As a BMW 335i owner with a sport package the above words confirms my view too! :shades:

    link title
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Here's the summary:

    For me it goes like this: I want a C63 to play with, because it makes me feel like a 17-year-old, but it'd tire me out if I drove it everyday. I want an RS4 day-to-day, but think I'd hanker after something more throttle-adjustable now and again. The M3 is the best all-rounder, but I'm not really into the M3 image and ubiquity.

    So there's the Lexus. Brilliant, exciting, slightly mad Lexus. It's flawed. It's not for the hardcore among us. But for some reason I'm drawn to it. Drawn to the technology, drawn to the fact there'll only be 150 in the UK per year. Drawn to its oddness.

    So, for once, I'll leave the choice of what to take to you. Last one back to the UK isn't trying hard enough


    You can read the whole article here
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Another IS F review from Top Gear TV's Richard "Hamster" Hammond:

    And, like a penguin reincarnated as a lion with a machine gun, at times it gets giddy with the sheer joy it and cannot contain itself any longer, screaming with euphoria Needless to say, it was an engine I fell in love with. It lurks under the huge bonnet power-bulge that is only the start of the scattering of sporty tinsel and glamour that mean the hard-edged version of the otherwise pretty boring IS is yelling at you before you’ve even fired up the V8.

    Slot the gear-lever into drive and take off. Flipping heck. Letting the V8 off the leash is like, well, doing exactly that - letting it off the leash to have a run around the park.

    Seldom do I get the chance to really sit back in the driving seat and give in to genuine surprise. But here, at the wheel of a car from a manufacturer known best for durability and discreet reliability, I was flabbergasted as the IS-F took off and headed for the horizon.


    The whole article is here

    Looks like the Brits are digging the new Lexus super sedan.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    Greetings! Just back from a road trip/family vacation to Washingmachine, DC. TL was flawless, packed to the gills with the four of us and detritus, encountering several traffic jams and some local driving, drove 1124 miles and averaged 49mph and 27 mpg.

    I'm sure y'all have been, but if not, I most highly recommend a trip to our Nation's Capitol. If nothing else, it reminded/reinforced that the idea, conception, governmental model and ideals of this country are just so right. I'll leave the execution of our ideals throughout history to your discussion. Where is George Washington when we need him? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you...

    Toured the Capitol Building, sat in the House Gallery and was entertained by a Representative from the Great State of South Carolina. Thank you, Rep. Barrett for a fun, enlightening time. Watched a resolution presented and objected to regarding The Delta Queen. Kids were getting fidgety, so had to leave before all the yeas and nays were tallied, it was a close race. Fabulous tour guide, Albert Caswell the "unofficial Poet Laureate" of the Capitol.

    Also, rode to the top of the Washington Monument, toured the Bureau of Engraving and Printing ("The buck starts here!") several Smithsonian Museums, showed the kids the White House.

    I had two very emotional moments, chilling, prideful, patriotic, depressing, scary...:

    First was at the National Air and Space Museum at Dulles Airport. Go, do not miss this museum! One section of the museum was dominated by a large, familiar looking, shiny metal aircraft. As I drew closer, I noted the name: THE Enola Gay. Stopped me in my tracks, as a cold shudder engulfed my body. A show-stopper for me...

    The Second was the Vietnam Memorial. Crowded, beautiful, chilling, depressing, stunning, reverant. I would imagine any Baby-Boomer would have such feelings. I looked through the index for the name of my summer camp counselor who, if memory servers, received a draft number in the 30s that summer oh so long ago. To this day, I remember his name, the look on his face when he received his number. Much to my relief, his name was not on the wall. "Tin soldiers and Nixon coming, we're finally on our own..."

    Also visited the WWII and Korean monuments which were also sobering, but Vietnam was, unfortunately, "my war." Stopped in front of the IRS building and booed rather loudly.

    Stayed in Landover, MD. Took the T, I mean Metro, into the city daily. A relatively clean, efficient subway system. One funny note: Each day the Metro would go by RFK stadium just before going underground. ONe day it appeared that there was a tractor-trailer school training future 18-wheel drivers in the parking lot of RFK. The next day, one of the very tall light towers was on the ground in that same parking lot, no sign of the tractor-trailer folks!

    Great vacation, so much to see and do. Almost all free, but you do need tickets for the Washington Monument tour, Capitol and Bureau of Engraving. All worth it.

    Go, even if you've gone before.

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Thanks for the great re-cap. I have been there and done that but I would like to go again.

    As for the Enola Gay, that airship saved many American and Japanese lives in the long run. That is the way I look at it.

    And yes, the Viet Nam Memorial is bleak and stunning. All those names. All those heroes....

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    Hi, Houdini: I pass no judgment on the men or machine, I would hope to agree that what had to be done at the time was done. The reaction was simply an ongoing and never ending wonder at what man can do to man... With my children by my side, it was simply a bit overwhelming knowing what the plane represented. As is true with any war, or even any given day here on earth, good innocent people perished at the hand of their fellow man, including children.

    Sorry, just in a mood. I sincerely hope there is no "Planet of the Apes" ending in store for our tiny little planet...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • lexusguylexusguy Member Posts: 6,419
    As for the Enola Gay, that airship saved many American and Japanese lives in the long run. That is the way I look at it.

    In an interview, one of the Enola Gay pilots said that he is often thanked by WWII vets, who "knew" that they wouldn't be coming back from Japan. He said the whole thing makes him a bit uncomfortable. Curiously, Bockscar has largely been forgotten. It's the Buzz Aldrin of nuclear bombers.
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    You don't have to explain anything. I understand perfectly. :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • clemboclembo Member Posts: 253
    Welcome back, nice summary of your trip. Some of the symbols that you mentioned are too often forgotten in our day to day lives.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    A very fine write up...Thanks...I lived in Washington for a few years , right about the time my friend had a Parsche--which I described in an earlier post---around sixteen or so years old....I have always really enjoyed the city, and it`s many splendid things....I hope someday to return, and do just what you did---again...I bet it has all changed , and probably for the better....I did walk to the top of the Washington Monument, and I think everything was free--except the streetcar--- Tony
  • esfesf Member Posts: 1,020
    A 335xi sedan with the M bodykit and a proper chip is looking more attractive by the day :)

    '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
  • esfesf Member Posts: 1,020
    They seem to like Lexus more than any other European country. Brits are always looking for something "different," if I'm correct.

    Unfortunately, here in the US, Lexus is anything but "different."

    '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
  • esfesf Member Posts: 1,020
    Sounds like a fantastic, very worthwhile trip. I appreciate your write-up, and I definitely feel the same way about the Vietnam memorial... spooky, to say the least.

    '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
  • esfesf Member Posts: 1,020
    Cadillac never seems to learn that cheap car rebadging doesn't work for them.

    Oh, they know. Believe me, they do. They just have to get on their feet in Europe before they can develop specific products there.

    '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
  • esfesf Member Posts: 1,020
    Don't worry, the next Audi RS4 will probably still use an n/a 4.2 with ~450hp to save the day.

    Isn't it funny how this works? Five years ago, they needed twin-turbochargers to make that power.

    '08 BMW X5 4.8i • '06 Audi A3 2.0T DSG • '05 Audi S4 Cabriolet
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Ditto for me!

    Regards,
    OW
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Hi Dada, welcome back! My country 'tis of thee...last time I was in DC it was to bury my lost uncle who's remains were finally found in 2002. He died in WWII in the Philippines in a plane crash. The remains were in a dense jungle mountain setting protected for years by treacherous terrain.

    It took 2 years to get the burial set but it was good for my family to know closure.

    Arlington says it all regarding all wars. Your chills were my chills.

    BTW, excellent MPG on the TL loaded! I assume EW had you in Chauffeur Mode!

    Regards,
    OW
  • getgtpdgetgtpd Member Posts: 3
    If everyone is so afraid of the electromagnetic fields, why does everyone wear those little magnetic bracelets to help with pain and joint discomfort? even some doctors are behind this science. Don't you think that we should worry about bigger problems than a possible electromagnetic field in a car? Maybe we won't have sore joints anymore!!! LOL
  • bmlexusbmlexus Member Posts: 755
    Could the new RX be the concept lexus LF-XH if not will they be making this concept vehicle?

    When will be the new RX available another 16months?
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    I'll say that it's very possible that the next RX would be based on the LF-Xh but tone down a bit for the production model. I would expect to see it unveiling in the Detroit, Chicago or New York (the latest) autoshow next year and arriving in dealers late 2009 as a 2010 model.

    Another possibility is that Lexus will unveil it in this year's LA autoshow and put it on sale in spring next year as an early '10.
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    They seem to like Lexus more than any other European country. Brits are always looking for something "different," if I'm correct.

    That probably means the Brits have good taste... ;)
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    The new Highlander has been out for a while now. I guess Lexus is not simply rebadging th HL to make the new RX.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Brits are always looking for something "different," if I'm correct.

    I know just look at the statement below:

    It's flawed. It's not for the hardcore among us. But for some reason I'm drawn to it. Drawn to the technology, drawn to the fact there'll only be 150 in the UK per year. Drawn to its oddness

    The author is drawn to the IS-f for 3 reasons and the two reasons are because it is odd and there are only 150 of them. Different indeed!

    Also note the author recognizes how flawed the IS-F is since it is a car that is suppose to serve the hardcore among us like the BMW M3 and Audi RS4 does and in that regard it fails. No wonder there are only 150 of these odd and flawed cars selling in the UK. In fact I am even surprised that they are able to sell 150 of them.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    Would you buy a car from this boat?

    image

    It all started about two years ago, when a ship carrying 4,703 shiny new Mazdas nearly sank in the Pacific. The freighter, the Cougar Ace, spent weeks bobbing on the high seas, listing at a severe 60-degree angle, before finally being righted.

    The mishap created a dilemma: What to do with the cars? They had remained safely strapped down throughout the ordeal -- but no one knew for sure what damage, if any, might be caused by dangling cars at such a steep angle for so long. Might corrosive fluids seep into chambers where they don't belong? Was the Cougar Ace now full of lemons?


    So it decided to destroy approximately $100 million worth of factory-new automobiles. "We couldn't run the risk of damaging the brand name that Mazda worked so hard over the years to develop," says Jeremy Barnes, the company's corporate-affairs director for North America.

    Wall Street Journal
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    Not hard core enough huh? Let's see...

    From the R&T comparo and just on the performance specs alone:

    0 - 60 mph
    RS4: 4.5 sec
    M3: 4.6 sec
    IS F: 4.2 sec
    C63: 4.1 sec

    1/4-mile time
    RS4: 13 sec
    M3: 13 sec
    IS F: 12.6 sec
    C63: 12.5 sec

    Slalom
    RS4: 70 mph
    M3: 72.9 mph
    IS F: 70.9 mph
    C63: 69.3 mph

    Skidpad
    RS4: 0.94 G
    M3: 0.95 G
    IS F: 0.93 G
    C63: 0.93 G

    Braking, 60 - 0 mph
    RS4: 118 ft
    M3: 113 ft
    IS F: 116 ft
    C63: 113 ft

    Braking, 80 - 0 mph
    RS4: 204 ft
    M3: 195 ft
    IS F: 201 ft
    C63: 201 ft

    Source: Road and Track
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    And the VERDICT PLEASE?

    Wasn't that from the R & T review in which the BMW M3 was ranked Numero UNO among all of them.

    And by the way wasn't the IS-F ranked among the lowest ?

    I dont have the riveting details of that article since I speed read all my auto mags at a grocery check out counter.
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    From Edmunds Auto Observer:

    Imagine a Toyota Prius, but faster, cleaner and greener. Such a car is coming soon and will launch at the Detroit auto show in January 2009.

    ...

    Sources suggest that the next Prius will be some three to four inches longer and about an inch wider, but crucially will not be significantly heavier.

    ...

    One, Toyota will re-engineer the Prius' unique gas engine/electric motor/battery powertrain to make it more efficient, more tightly packaged and to extend the driving range using battery the electric motor.

    Two, Toyota will install a bigger 1797 cc four cylinder gas engine to cope with the bigger body and counter criticism in some quarters of the weedy performance of the current 1.5.

    With the new 1.8, output's expected to shift from today's 75 bhp to a more rousing
    100 bhp. This together with a next generation electric motor should lift combined system output from the current 110 bhp to some 160 bhp, sources predict.

    As such, the next Prius will be significantly faster, especially off the line and in low to mid range. But advances with the motor, battery and recharging inside Toyota's trick Hybrid Synergy Drive means economy won't be adversely affected.

    ...

    Different markets around the world have their own take on exactly how green and frugal the Prius actually is. America, for instance, rates the 2008 Prius at a far more real world-like 48 mpg/45 mpg/46 mpg for city/highway/combined.

    Japan's 10.15 mode, nevertheless, while not perfect, does give an idea of the kind of efficiency improvements we can expect with the next Prius (ie some 10 per cent-plus) and suggests, perhaps, that America's Combined rating for the 2010 Prius will lift up to the 50-55 mpg mark.

    ...

    Toyota meantime is also working on Plug-in versions of the next Prius, of course. The idea of being able to recharge the Prius' battery pack from a standard domestic socket to extend the vehicle's driving range in electric mode is the next step along way to lifting the Prius into yet another eco stratosphere.

    Tests are now under way on European, American and Japanese roads with a fleet of prototypes and Toyota has already announced that it plans to launch sales of Plug In Hybrids (fitted with state-of-the-art lithium-ion batteries) to fleet buyers in the US and elsewhere by 2010.

    However, plug-in won't come at launch in 2009 and as widely reported, Toyota has also put back the planned intro of state-of-the-art lithium-ion batteries for the standard Prius due to worries over reliability, pricing, supply and other factors.

    Lightweight and high power, Li-Io is the definitely future, however, and Toyota has also said that it is actively now looking into mass production of the batteries in Japan together with Panasonic.

    So to start with, the Mk 3 Prius will kick off with nickel-metal hydride batteries, as now. But the battery pack and indeed the whole system will be more efficient and tightly packaged.
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    No, that's the review that has the C63 ranked first. IS F came out last only when the subjective scores are factored in, with performance scores only, IS F is a close third right behind the M3 (193.2 vs 193.5, C63 is 195.6 and RS4 is 192).
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    Wow, those are very close results. I think the small production numbers will make the IS-F even more appealing to prospective buyers.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    There is a TopGear vid less the Lexus that has the M-3 as the winner. It's the one with the Apple Apex Test!

    As usual, M3 is the scalpel of the bunch!

    Regards,
    OW
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    As usual, M3 is the scalpel of the bunch!

    I don't think anyone would disagree with that.
  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    Yes, but the IS-F got this on the first try. BMW should be worry a lot...
    In any case, I am not interested in any of these cars in the near future. Only some thing like a GT-R would get my money for a sport car.
  • reality2reality2 Member Posts: 303
    I may agree with you on the A4 3.2 V6, but something tells me Audi will continue with a mild mannered V6 and a high performance V6 (S4) version in the next A4 range. One cannot forget the other attributes of Audi S models vs. their plebain cousins. It's about the badge. However, I must completely disagree with you regarding your point on the S6. The S6 is a finely tuned package. It may not be the fasted (though it is by no means slow), but overall it is one the best high performance sedans in the segment as proven by reviews. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Finely built and elegantly executed, it serves its purpose as a grand tourer perfectly. If you want to be a total bad [non-permissible content removed], then the RS6 gets you there fast. If you want to be seen as somewhat reserved, but have a wild streak inside the S6 is does the trick.
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    This is how can Audi make me eat my own words:

    The next S4...

    - 350+hp supercharged V6
    - 0-60 mph within 5 seconds
    - $45k starting MSRP

    I'll become an Audi owner when that happens.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    In the not too distant past, if I had a nail in the tire, and the tire had not gone flat, I caried it to the Leus dealer, and they took care of the problem even though it might mean they took the car to a tire place..

    I got a nail in the tire yesterday, and the tire place was packed with people, so I decided to take it to the Audi dealer where I purchased it....They said they didn`t fix tires, and made no more effort to help out...other than suggest the tire place....It may sound meaningless, but for me not....I guess the coming up suv will either be a Lexus or a bmw.....Audi has made some good strides building their dealership base, but they still have a ways to go, at least here...The product is a good one, so again I suggest anyone buying any new car, to check the dealership out thoroughly before buying....A good dealership makes all the difference...Furthermore this isn`t to suggest the Lexus dealer hasn`t changed --for the worse--as I haven`t been there for a couple of years, but I`l find out pretty soon Tony
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,208
    Sorry for your family's loss and years of uncertainty, of course, but lovely to have the closure. Still, man's inhumanity to man...

    Didn't make it to Arlington (or the Zoo...) but will next time. I've been to Arlington in my youth, I remember my mother crying at JFK's grave, watching the changing of the guards... Again, the ideals of this great land are just ideal...

    No, the EW, being a morning person (Unlike yours truly) drove both first legs. In her RX, she drives like a little old soccer mommy. But in the TL, she does me a bit more proud (actually exceeds the posted limit!). I wonder why? ;)

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Hi Getgtpd

    I haven`t seen your name before, so welcome .....I guess what I am trying to do is not have a bigger problem---such as a dreaded disease-- :) and if for some reason this concern were to be right ( I don`t think so) the value would plunge.....My wife almost got the hy bred lexus rx when it came out a few years ago, and at that time I really got involved testing the mpg...I found that the stop light --sitting and waiting-- was what hurt the mpg the most....She got the bmw sportwagon instead and as she drives a bit slower than me , she regularly gets better than thirty mpg on trips...All in all agood decision as the bmw is so much more fun....Tony
  • louisweilouiswei Member Posts: 3,715
    But in the TL, she does me a bit more proud (actually exceeds the posted limit!). I wonder why?

    Because technically, it's not "her" car?

    I do that all the time. When I drive dad's 4Runner, mom's Camry or sister's Accord (my old one) I have tendency to drive them harder than my IS350...
  • rockshocka1rockshocka1 Member Posts: 310
    Did McD's really tell you to go to Gerald's?
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    YEP :( spend eighty plus, and are promised service....Luckily I am not disabled, but still?? I always try and look at things from a different angle, so now I`l not persue another Audi for my daughter....Gerald`s sure is doing well--just packed.....I got it fixed at another place on Savannah Hwy... All in all a pain , and the Firestone place was no help at all---hardly any customers also Tony
  • rockshocka1rockshocka1 Member Posts: 310
    My mobile doesn't show a reply button (Pat?), sorry have to retitle mssgs. Tony, Gerald's is very good 4 cars out of warrantee, or those you've gotten over ding fear. I'm on the Mt. P side & it's always packed & I'm scared to park there. Especially on a 80+ vehicle. I appreciate your comments on local Audi dealer, as well as others in Chas area.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Thanks
  • bmlexusbmlexus Member Posts: 755
    I'll say that it's very possible that the next RX would be based on the LF-Xh but tone down a bit for the production model

    Probably be near to the concept.

    Any plans lexus might add another new SUV ?

    I guess probably not for another 4years :blush:
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    There is some speculation that Lexus might finally get into the small SUV market. Don't know if it would be some sort of fancy Rav 4 or a whole different vehicle. Should know for sure soon.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • 2001gs4302001gs430 Member Posts: 767
    That was bad customer service. I would be mad as well.
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