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Toyota Tundra and ABS Brakes
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I've been shopping dealers for a new Tundra and am
finding that the ABS brake option is almost
non-existent, at least in Georgia. Does anyone
know why this is? It seems that ABS would be a
very common option. Isn't is standard equipment on
most of the Big 3 trucks?
I've ordered to get the options that I want and
ABS. What a hassle. Would have prefered to bought
immediately.
Thanks for any insight.
finding that the ABS brake option is almost
non-existent, at least in Georgia. Does anyone
know why this is? It seems that ABS would be a
very common option. Isn't is standard equipment on
most of the Big 3 trucks?
I've ordered to get the options that I want and
ABS. What a hassle. Would have prefered to bought
immediately.
Thanks for any insight.
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I had one dealer tell me that they had searched all the dealerships in the SE, which I believe is about 6 or 7 states, and they could find only 7 trucks w/ABS. The dealer that I ordered through had about 40 trucks on the lot and 1 had ABS. That one was a special ordered unit that the customer had to backout on. Very strange. It is probably related to the fact that there is a Toyota distributor here in the SE that tightly controls what is sold here. ALL Toyota sales have to go through him. He is a very rich man.
Wow amazing. They talk about how safe their vehicles are and their trucks have ABS as an option. They are really ahead of the game.
My 4 wheel ABS is great i can stop on a dime.
Ryan
Ryan
What kinda truck do you have? Why did you choose that?
Ryan
I have been driving Japanese for quite some time now. Outstanding performance and value. Resale prices are excellent also. These are the main reasons for me going w/Toyota.
Resale value doesnt play in my decision i plan on keeping it for a while probably keep it even when i get a new one for the heck of it
Ryan
Ryan
Per Edmunds:
Tundra - Newly optional on Limited is a package that matches the bumpers and tailgate handle to the body color. The Offroad package is now available on Access Cabs with a V8 engine, while models equipped with a V6 receive and upgraded alternator. A note pad holder is now optional on SR5 and Limited, Base regular cab trucks lose their standard cassette player. Two new colors are available, filling three slots left vacant by old colors that have been discontinued
Ryan
Ryan
Have you made your appointment with your local Chevy dealer to get the recalled ABS looked at on your truck?
Truck is great 4000 mls so far.
Ryan
$5,555 per Kelly Blue Book
Is this the "fantastic resale value" you are referring to?
Your comment is meaningless. $5,555 compared to What??
Resale value ratings are derived from the ratio of a used car's value vs. the new cost. It is a percentage.
If the T-100 you mention sold new for $13,000 and is now 4 years old and is worth $5,555 (wholesale), this would tell you that it retained 43% of it's value after 4 years. On the otherhand, if you had a 1996 Chevy S-10, longbed, V6 with 80,000 miles on it you would see that the KBB lists it's wholesale value at $4,670. Let's do the math. If the Chevy cost $13,000 new and it is worth $4670 used, it has retained 36% of it's value. Hmmmm, which holds it resale value better?
Give me to Toyota any day. If you take the time to do the research you will see that Japanese autos consistently hold their resale value much better than American cars. No one is saying that you should like them. That is a personal choice. It is a cold, hard fact though that Japanese autos retain their resale values better. That's all.
To better understand why your comment is meaningless, read my post to quadrunner500, if you can.
I think this is more of a problem with Toyota dealers than trade in value - but it makes it harder to buy a Toy.
My point was...trucks, any brand hold up their resale value better than cars. Period.
You mentioned that you drove a Chevy and ended up with the Toyota anyway. Can you tell us why you went that way?
In Georgia, you can negotiate a price right above dealer cost for the Tundra. I ordered (not purchased off the lot) a 2001 Tundra for $500 over invoice. The lot trucks were going for invoice cost.
Kids and their Tonka Toy's, I tell ya.
BTW - my 99 Silverado has been great. I am almost to 12K miles and only one trip to dealer to have transmission programmed to eliminate a harsh 1-2 shift when in tow mode, and fix a throttle sticking problem. Work done at a normal oil change time so it was not even an extra trip.
As far as value the Toyota dealers in Houston have been advertising discounts of $4,000 the last few weeks on Tundras. Today on the radio Mike Calvert Toyota was selling all access cab Tundras for $5,000 off MSRP. I guess this would be great if you were buying one now - but the resale value of the 2000 Tundra just took a major hit. It is not normal for Toyota to discount this much on a new model. Anyone know why the deep discounts? If Toyota would have been willing to discount the Tundra this much last year when I was shopping I might have bought one. But when I was buying they were talking MSRP (Some were MSRP+) they also offered me $1,400 for my 86.5 Nissan 4x4 King cab, GM gave me $3,200. Net including tax would have been about $3.5k more for the Tundra - Plus I got leather, a locking differential, autotrac and all the other GM goodies.
Ryan
I know they had to jump start my truck with the other next to it on display. It's the same battery and it starts like new. It should because it is new! I hope! The battery I mean.
They guy loves it!
I ran it again for your truck...don't know how it's equipped...pasted result below:
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1996 Toyota T100 SR5 Xtra Cab
Engine: V6 3.4 Liter
Trans: 5 Speed Manual
Drive: 4 Wheel Drive
Mileage: 80,000
Local Dealer Price - Used Car
Local Dealer Price - New Car
List Your Car For Sale Online
Online Financing Quote
Online Insurance Quote
Payment Calculator
Another Report
Equipment Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
AM/FM Stereo
Consumer Rated Condition:Excellent "Excellent" condition means that the vehicle looks great, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. It should pass a smog inspection. The engine compartment should be clean, with no fluid leaks. The paint is glossy and the body and interior are free of any wear or visible defects. There is no rust. The tires are the proper size and match and are new or nearly new. A clean title history is assumed. This is an exceptional vehicle.
Trade-In Value$11,660
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1997 Toyota T100 SR5 Xtra Cab
Engine: V6 3.4 Liter
Trans: Automatic
Drive: 4 Wheel Drive
Mileage: 40,000
Equipment
Air Conditioning
Power Steering
Power Windows
Power Door Locks
Tilt Wheel
Cruise Control
AM/FM Stereo
Cassette
Sliding Rear Window
Consumer Rated Condition: Excellent
"Excellent" condition means that the vehicle looks great, is in excellent mechanical condition and needs no reconditioning. It should pass a smog inspection. The engine compartment should be clean, with no fluid leaks. The paint is glossy and the body and interior are free of any wear or visible defects. There is no rust. The tires are the proper size and match and are new or nearly new. A clean title history is assumed. This is an exceptional vehicle.
Trade-In Value $17,055
Trade-in value represents what you might expect to receive from a dealer for this consumer owned vehicle. Keep in mind that the dealer must then absorb the cost of making the vehicle ready for sale, advertising, sales commissions, arranging financing and insurance and standing behind the vehicle for any mechanical or safety problems.
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But that raises a burning question about why you would sell your T100 with only 29,000 miles if it is so great, and you were so happy with it. How many times have you guys stated that the reason you buy these Toyotas is because you want to keep them 10+ years, 200,000 miles etc? All so much bull, obviously.
I also recall that the original poster wanted to compare resale for T100 against S10. Isn't T100 billed as a full size truck?
I'm quite sure if the purchaser of your trade paid $20,000 for a used T100, he's choking now.
As far as all Toyota owners owning their vehicles for 10 yr. who ever said that? I would say that if he only lost at most $2K over 3 yr. why shouldn't he trade it in on a better truck? The Tundra is cheaper and has a Lexus derived V8. I would say that he is a very savvy buyer.
As far as your troubles with your Silverado, I wish you the best of luck. It doesn't seem to jive with one of your previous posts where you said you had 27K trouble free miles. Maybe you stretched the truth a little?
I should have left it alone, the poster made the correct point for me when he stated 80,000 miles is a big deduct on ANY vehicle. My original point was ANY truck has a better than average resale value, but you, with your infinite 15,000 mile per year personal use wisdom couldn't stand for that. Perhaps your false assumptions about superior resale value for Toyota trucks are because you compare 15K/yr personal use trucks to 20K/yr work trucks? I can assure you, a Silverado, F150, Ram with only 15K/yr has excellent resale comparable to any Toyota. The original poster tried to draw a comparison of T100 to S10. Of course T100, like Tundra has a full size price.
The poster took exception to the trade value I came up for his truck because I didn't know to include his running boards, bedliner, premium wheels etc. However, I doubt those items were included for the purchase price he stated to be 21,250 in July '96. And the arbitrary comparisons we used up to that point were for TRADE IN, not sale to private parties.
Good Luck.