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The leather in our TL doesn't feel as soft...and... doesn't wear as well.
I have to agree on that one - I was surprised at how my seats are wearing.
The dash also is not of uniform color. I have to constantly apply NXT to keep it looking nice, becuase otherwise, it looks like it's fading at different rates across the dash.
Weird, I experienced this issue in 2005 - I applied a turtle wax product that's probably very similar to your NXT product. I applied 2 coats and the problem has not returned in more than a year. If your NXT product doesn't contain UV protection, try something that does.
I like the Bird's Eye view, because it lets you see ahead better, and better anticipate turns and such.
This is opinion, of course, but I've driven with birds eye view navs and hate 'em - I lose the sense of where I'm going and the scale. Guess it's nice to have an option, but I don't like it.
Points of interest database and the G having more than the TL. Were your nav discs or downloads or whatever done at the same time? What I mean is, if your TL nav dvd was made in 2002 and the G was made in 2004, that might explain a lot of the differences.
touch screen in the TL...locks up too easily
Do you mean it takes too long to retrieve info? If I ask for a list of restaurants, it may hesitate while it gathers the info, but it doesn't "lock up"
Had a TL previously and loved it. I drive 55k per year and get a new car evry 3 years.My experience with the car and the dealership have convinced me to NEVER buy another Infiniti. Th Acura dealer was great-we also own an MDX.
Will go with Acura or Lexus next time.
What kind of noises? What were the other issues?
I went through the G35,TL, 335i, IS350, Audi A4/A6/A8(used) but in the end it boiled down to the G35 because I was looking for a fully loaded performance vehicle and Luxury was second. And to me... price did matter.
there are some g35driver forums that will go into more details, but the list of "wish it had" is small and non on their own, or even rolled up really deter most from buying.
for instance, Sirius isn't available with the Nav unit, only XM, Some have complained of pitting on the grille from road thrashing, otehrs say theirs had a noise coming from the Dash, but Infiniti released a TSB to fix it, others had an issue with a rubber gasket on the sunroof which Infiniti already released a TSB to resolve. The scrolling feature is disabled on the navigation unit while the car is in motion which is not that big a deal, basically if your nav's points of interest are 20 for the area, it will only show you the closest 5, if you pass two then refresh and you'll see the next closest 5, but when the car's stopped you can see all 20. Other complaints are that the CD changer is in the trunk on Navi units, but I could care less, with a CF card and CD player up front, I really havn't used the CD changer once. if your overweight I think the sport seats can be slightly uncomfortable due to the Bolsters, and by overweight we're talking 250+ or over pant size 42, if that's the case go with the Journey or a TL which has flatter seats. And the latest is the Tire Pressure monitoring system doesn't show the exact tire pressure, it ONLY alerts you when it goes below 26... to me all of this stuff is a joke because if these are they type of things that come up, it means there's nothing wrong with the car, and there are a lot of people (including myself) that have put thousands of miles on the car already.
So that's it off the top of my head, all feedback from people that own them are trivial things like I mentioned above, I'm sure those who own the other cars have their list of trivals as well, I know Audi people probably have the most (from personal experience)
So to sum up, the car's amazing and I can not hold back my smile every time I walk toward the vehicle. If you havn't test driven one yet, get out and do it, it will seal the deal.
The touch screen is fantastic, very bright, very sensitive and responsive, and it never shows any finger prints which surprised me.
To be honest, I don't give specific things much thought when it comes to repair costs because you never know what your going to have a problem with and it's basically just a simple computer, so pricing on it is probably less then $1000 installed if you needed out of warranty service, but hey 6 years down the road I'm sure there will be used ones or the price might drop... so it's never a thought for me. I just had to replace the computer in my Nissan Altima and that was $825. And I doubt the prices on the Acura or Lexus are any cheaper, and the BMW certainly isn't, just had a co worker get a $4500 bill on the BMW 3 series which is 6 years old, and they baby it.
Thanks
None to worry, the dash is not fading, but the chemicals used in it's construction break down over time and leave a haze on the dash. This can be cleaned, but can be difficult if left without cleaning for too long.
As for your seats...
use a solution of 6 parts water/1 part Woolite.
Once the seats are cleaned and dry, you can use your choice of conditioner.
People complain about the Honda/Acura seats.
I've kept the wife's 00 Accord seats clean, and they look brand new after 180,000 miles.
I've been searching for a G35x with Prem/Nav/Tech packages and the wood trim.
Very elusive... they are already sold when they come in and there is a 6 week wait for orders.
Also, they are so popular that they cannot be had for anything under MSRP.
I just talked my salesguy into meeting me right in the middle between Invoice and MSRP.
Dropped a deposit and it'll be here in 2 weeks.
Deciding Factor:
I dropped the MDX off yesterday for some minor warranty stuff and they hooked me up with a new 07 Type-S.
It was a ton of fun to drive, but I think I'm looking for a little more on the refinement side, so I'm going with the G.
The Type-S was fun though.
I picked the wife up at lunch and we tore up the streets.
Felt like we were 18 again.
You are not going to soak the perf seats with a water/woolite solution.
Spray it on and wipe, or wet (dampen) a microfiber cloth and then wipe them down.
I keep a spray bottle for this.
Works on everything in the interior.
Just keep your seats clean... and conditioned!
I haven't had to. When my '04 TL dash got "faded" I had to apply 2 coats of an armor all-like product (I don't remember the name). That took care of the fade and since then, I'm redo it once or twice a year, and not beceause it started to fade again. It's never faded again on me.
I'd suggest picking a plsatic-cleaning/preserving product with UV protection and make sure it doesn't contain alcohol.
All I'm saying is that the Water/Woolite mixture is perfect for maintenance type cleaning and a heck of a lot cheaper.
Keep the Zaino on hand for those horrible times when you need deep cleaning, and their conditioner is great as well.
As for the dash... it doesn't happen to everyone and I honestly don't hear of it as much as I used to.
Acura does have a cleaner that corrects the problem, but if the dash is not done with it's 'breaking down' process, it will haze again.
Acura has been really good of taking care of the problem, for those who do experience it.
Those black plastic panels are a pain with the amount of scuff marks they pick up.
Try the Wooilte first.
If they don't come out, you can move on to phase 2...
Plastic-Vinyl cleaner
For really bad marks that refuse to come out, use a Mr Clean Magic Eraser, but be very light and gentle with those, as they are abrasive.
She will be replacing the TL soon with the 2007 G-35x or an FX-35.
And if you think the TL drives like an ES than you've clearly never driven the ES. It's much softer, less communicative, and more isolated from the road than the TL. Then again Lexus never designed it for taut and agile handling of any sort.
OUCH!! That was like a kick to the groin! Boy, you really know how to hurt a guy... :P
The Stone may show less in the dept of scuffs, but will be much more difficult in trying to keep that "Like New" look.
Black, when properly maintained, will look awesome for a long time.
She'll be here in 2 weeks.... can't wait!
I also think the G has a more refined feel on the inside, especially with the Rosewood trim.
The G also offers more in terms of toys and technology.
I had the luxury of taking the Type-S for an entire day.
It was fun, but it just wasn't for me.
http://www.car-videos.net/performance/view.asp?ID1=319&ID2=320
The 3.7 in the 2008 G coupe, IMO, owns the twin-turbo 335.
I was inches away from the IS.
The IS handles like a trolley when compared to the new 07 G.
You are correct though, the interior is beautiful.
All depends on what you want more.
Good luck.
I called yesterday and the car is still not in.
They'll need time to prep the car and install the 3M kit, so I'm starting to lose faith in this weekend.
Being 70 miles away, I can only really get there on a weekend.
There's a good chance that it may be another week, unless some miracle happens.
(Although, I may just take a day off if it magically appears during the week)
The salesman seems very confident that it will be in tomorrow, but he really has no idea.
Fact is, with such a large dealership and cars coming in all the time, the car could actually be there right now and they don't even know it.
They know I'm dying to get the car and I'm bummed about the unknown delivery date, so they have even offered to deliver the car to my house.
I decided not to accept the offer though. I have a trade-in that they have yet to see.
I have no idea how they planned on properly reviewing my trade.... in my driveway :confuse:
Maybe they forgot that point.
For the trade in, they use the Galves book, which is basically a book for dealers to price a car with intent to dump the car at an auction, it's heavily weighted toward the dealer and usually is thousands, or hundreds below NADA or Kelly's BB. Google Galves and there are some free calculators, they will give you a range for you car, like 6600-7500, accept nothing less then the top number, because the 7500 is usually below NADA/KBB's lowest figure. Of course I'm assuming your trade in is fully working with no major damage.