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As an aside, the last time WHO came out with early warnings, they were criticized for prematurely tanking the economy. Can't win.
Just to cry in YOUR BREWSKI, I have read in passing that EVERY major city scored an F in emissions quality and that is with all the mass and massive transit systems in place !!!!!!
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I've been following this political football for a long time. Here's some of what I've learned. The earth has been in a general warming cycle since 1850. Lots of buffalo farting around that time. Ice core samples have always shown an increase in CO2 following, not before, a warming period. Today, that fact is ignored. The number one source of CO2 is decaying organic matter and the oceans, not smoke stacks and SUV's. Makes sense that warmer temperatures cause a faster rate of decay. The earth's atmosphere is made up of 3 to 4% CO2 and there have been periods where it has been several times that. Tropical plant and cold blooded dinosaur fossils can be found at the poles. The cause of changes in the earth's temperature is solely dependent on our only source of heat, the sun. The output of the sun varies and can't be predicted any more than the earth's temperature can be. They move in tandem. The best advice I've heard from an expert is we need to learn to adapt to any changes caused by temperature fluctuation because we can't change the weather, period. Here's some good reading. http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming.html
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"Science is an intellectual dead end, you know? It's a lot of little guys in tweed suits cutting up frogs on foundation grants." (Woody as Miles)
In real news:
Global Warming: Those Tipping Points Are Closer Than You Think (Wall St. Journal)
And from the other side of the political spectrum, this tidbit from HuffPo:
"There are roughly 1 billion vehicles in the world right now, and within just 20 years, the number will double to 2 billion, largely as a result of growth in China and India. By as early as 2040, China could have more cars on the road than America.
Considering that personal transportation accounts for 30 percent of US global warming pollution, we are looking at an astronomical jump in carbon emissions and oil dependence."
Two Billion Cars: Why We Need a Transportation Revolution Now
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I thought the same doom and gloomers claimed we would be out of oil before 2040?
Considering that personal transportation accounts for 30 percent of US global warming pollution
Didn't the IPCC report say 15% of all CO2 came from all transportation. So how could US personal transportation account for 30% GW pollution? More fuzzy math from the cult that spawned Al Gore.
All the article is doing is plugging some hacks book. Probably one of the people behind the recent CARB mandate that ran several hundred more gas stations out of business with NO real improvement to our air or quality of life. I can see how CARB will get their way by eliminating the sale of fossil fuel. Sorry we cannot afford a $million to pump gas for 10 cents a gallon profit.
You may like this new world order. I am anything but thrilled. The GW cap n trade charlatans are just one part of it.
The term turns people off, fostering images of shaggy-haired liberals, economic sacrifice and complex scientific disputes, according to extensive polling and focus group sessions conducted by ecoAmerica, a nonprofit environmental marketing and messaging firm in Washington.
Instead of grim warnings about global warming, the firm advises, talk about “our deteriorating atmosphere.” Drop discussions of carbon dioxide and bring up “moving away from the dirty fuels of the past.” Don’t confuse people with cap and trade; use terms like “cap and cash back” or “pollution reduction refund.”
The answer, Mr. Perkowitz said in his presentation at the briefing, is to reframe the issue using different language. “Energy efficiency” makes people think of shivering in the dark. Instead, it is more effective to speak of “saving money for a more prosperous future.” In fact, the group’s surveys and focus groups found, it is time to drop the term “the environment” and talk about “the air we breathe, the water our children drink.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/02/us/politics/02enviro.html?_r=1
To quote our illustrious leader. "You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a PIG".
Any way you want to describe the GW Cult. It is designed to steal our freedom of choice. By legislation and taxation. Swine Flu may be their grand plan to eliminate a few hundred million of us CO2 breathing heathens.
I think the 15% is global, and the 30% (I've read closer to 25%) is U.S. But that does not just include personal autos and such. Trains, buses, planes, ferries, and such are all included in that number.
So as I said before you can eliminate every vehicle in the world, and the amount of CO2 man creates is going to continue to rise the % CO2 in the atmosphere year after year.
Not to mention the shipping industry that has to be a sizable amount of the GHG production. Those big transports run on bunker oil. With as much as 5000 PPM sulfur. It is the major producer of smog in the LA basin all the way to the San Bernardino mountains. We could kill two birds with one stone by banning those ships from our harbors. We would effectively stop import products and clean the air. That is if anyone in Washington DC or Sacramento really is interested in reducing GHG. I don't believe they are. They are interested in pushing their control agenda and higher taxes.
If ever there was an allegory of putting a Band-Aid on the side of a pig as it runs through the mud and muck, this GW propaganda campaign is all of that and much, much more. It is so easy to read through the phony-baloney of their tripe.
OTOH, I do believe that wholesale polluting can be cut way back, and in this responsibility one needs to be vigilant, IMO.
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Another strategy right out of the old Marxist playbook. It's not prison, it's a "re-education camp".
I'm waiting for the proposals come forth to kill half of us off and call it "alternate day breathing". :mad:
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Perrier lubricating fluid does have a catchy ring to it.
One of the hospitals I did my clinical work in as a student had some Respiratory Therapists play a joke on everyone over the PA system one day.
Paging Al Buterol, Mr. Al Buterol, you're wanted in the front lobby.
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Here are some more current examples:
1. Card Check rule, not doing away with Union private ballots.
2. Enhanced government revenue, not tax increases.
3. Cap and Trade, not tax increases.
4. Climate change, not global warming.
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"By the time the idea of global cooling reached the public press in the mid-1970s temperatures had stopped falling, and there was concern in the climatological community about carbon dioxide's warming effects. In response to such reports, the World Meteorological Organization issued a warning in June 1976 that a very significant warming of global climate was probable."
Carl Sagan then came out with Cosmos in 1980 where he warned of global cooling, followed in '82 by the nuclear winter study (leading Reagan to propose Star Wars). Sagan came around to global warming at some point (comparing it to the development of Venus's atmosphere), but no date is given in the stuff I skimmed.
Meanwhile Al Gore held his first congressional hearing on climate change in '76 and co-sponsored hearings on global warming that same year.
So, the global cooling theory mostly dropped off the map in less than a decade while Al's been going strong for 30 years. Makes you wonder what the next generation or two will bring.
I remember when the nuclear winter theory hit the popular press but don't remember anything back in the 70's about global cooling or warming. Although I had been to Alaska by '73 and people were talking about the glaciers receding even then.
I remember reading a book by Time-Life Press in the 60's about the earth and it's many active processes. One set of photos I distinctly remember was of a glacier in Switzerland taken at about ten year intervals from the 1890's to the 1960's. They showed a steady retreat of the ice over time. I think the book ascribed this to natural climate fluctuations.
It would be interesting to see that glacier today.
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You may have to lift up a corner of the tarp to see it - several glaciers in the Alps keep getting partially covered in the summer months to try to keep them from shrinking. Germany's Largest Glacier Keeps Melting Despite "Sun Screen" (DW-World)
My point exactly. If these glaciers were retreating 110 years ago who do you blame, coal-fired SUVs or mother nature?
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EPA: ethanol crops displaces climate-friendly ones (AP)
Backers Say It Is Time For BioButanol To Take Its Place in Energy Lineup (Green Car Advisor)
BioButanol sounds like something you'd refill a lighter with. Not that anyone remembers when you actually reused lighters instead of tossing them into the landfill. Zipcars could come out with a Zippo model.
You are quite the jokester, given how vilified the other alternative fuels such as diesel and bio diesel have been. I think farmers are going to go back to being persecuted...... :sick: :lemon:
So Obama knows more than the EPA or is he just a slow learner? I vote for the latter.
Meanwhile, President Barack Obama issued a directive to find ways to get automakers to make more cars that can run on ethanol and to make ethanol more widely available at fueling stations.
So a little corn ethanol is bad for the environment. Let's produce more till it is good. :sick:
What do the hucksters pushing global warming have to say about this:
"We must continue to decrease our use of fossil fuels because all this cooling will "mask" the warming effect of increased CO2 in our atmosphere. Once the cooling cycle is over we will be in even worse shape".
So, while they admit that the sun can cause the temperature to decrease, apparently it has zero effect on warming. That is only caused by man.
If this was not so transparently pathetic it would be laughable....instead, it is just plain scary.
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Solar storms ahead: Is Earth prepared? (Christian Science Monitor)
Or maybe it's not:
"because the state of the sun is so chaotic, predictions are speculative, and things could change in a month or so."
What the latest lull in sunspots means for our weather (citizen.com)
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/environment/2009-05-06-climate-change-wildf- ires_N.htm
It's fine to do studies and propose and publish articles in magazines for debate. But please let's get the facts before we start pushing public policies based on unsubstantiated theories.
I don't think I want to remove my catalytic converter based on one article either.
"However, Easterling and Wehner write, the reality of the climate system is that, due to natural climate variability, it is entirely possible, even likely, to have a period as long as a decade or two of “cooling” superimposed on the longer-term warming trend. The problem with citing such short-term cooling trends is that it can mislead decision-makers into thinking that climate change does not warrant immediate action."
I understand that China is still selling a record number of cars - so much for immediate action.
A decade or two long cooling trend might be enough to convince some decision-makers to jettison GW initiatives. Wait another decade or two and bang, all kinds of interesting things could happen. People are not very good at looking long term.
"Learning is not compulsory but neither is SURVIVAL."
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The Roman Empire lasted what? 1000 years?
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Whether the Earth is warming or cooling, does not surprise me. What surprises me is how science can tell and show you things such as: how the Grand Canyon was formed, how the Himalayas are forming, how there were Ice Ages, and then sit here and think that for some reason this natural change all of a sudden should have stopped in the 20th century, and the coastlines and climate need to be maintained as is for eternity.
Anyway you bring up a good point about China. People will prefer to drive and use carbon fuels, compared to doing things manually, even if it did cause slight climate-change. I certainly will not change my lifestyle, if the only consequence is a few degrees temperature increase. As I said many times here before the Earth is too cold in most areas and could use a little warming.