For instance an ID.4 Pro S with $47,524 sales price returns a lease of $675 a month in CA, no downpayment, just the first month and DMV title and fees, despite the $7500 federal incentive. This was 36/7.5k.
For comparison, I just completed a BMW X3 lease, sales price around the same, but I paid $580 a month for 36/10 with no down.
I guess the MF and residual are not that competitive, though on the main vw.com site, they advertise a $459/mo. lease with $3437 drive off.
BMW also covers all scheduled maintenance during the lease. Not sure VW does?
For instance an ID.4 Pro S with $47,524 sales price returns a lease of $675 a month in CA, no downpayment, just the first month and DMV title and fees, despite the $7500 federal incentive. This was 36/7.5k.
For comparison, I just completed a BMW X3 lease, sales price around the same, but I paid $580 a month for 36/10 with no down.
I guess the MF and residual are not that competitive, though on the main vw.com site, they advertise a $459/mo. lease with $3437 drive off.
BMW also covers all scheduled maintenance during the lease. Not sure VW does?
I don't think VW includes maintenance. If they do, it's minimal (couple of oil changes)
VW includes 2 years of maintenance on the ID.4 regardless of how it’s financed. But it’s a BEV, so maintenance shouldn’t really amount to much, regardless.
For instance an ID.4 Pro S with $47,524 sales price returns a lease of $675 a month in CA, no downpayment, just the first month and DMV title and fees, despite the $7500 federal incentive. This was 36/7.5k.
For comparison, I just completed a BMW X3 lease, sales price around the same, but I paid $580 a month for 36/10 with no down.
I guess the MF and residual are not that competitive, though on the main vw.com site, they advertise a $459/mo. lease with $3437 drive off.
BMW also covers all scheduled maintenance during the lease. Not sure VW does?
For instance an ID.4 Pro S with $47,524 sales price returns a lease of $675 a month in CA, no downpayment, just the first month and DMV title and fees, despite the $7500 federal incentive. This was 36/7.5k.
For comparison, I just completed a BMW X3 lease, sales price around the same, but I paid $580 a month for 36/10 with no down.
I guess the MF and residual are not that competitive, though on the main vw.com site, they advertise a $459/mo. lease with $3437 drive off.
BMW also covers all scheduled maintenance during the lease. Not sure VW does?
First of all, thank you for posting some price numbers, people in this thread only ask for MF , Residuals but never post what deals they could get, which is not helpful at all.
You are right , VW ID4 lease is not cheap if you compare with similar Non-EV leases. But if you want to switch to EV and an SUV then that’s the only option with free charging for 3 years and somewhat better pricing. If you account for gas price savings then that does make it a good lease for 3 years.
Since EV SUV market is still in early days for now, and with limited cars in market, dealers are taking advantage of the situation. They are quoting higher MF and more on MSRP than listed on VW site. One dealer wanted $7000 above MSRP in the Bay Area , when I declined they said what’s your best offer. So I simply declined to deal with them.
If you are not in rush then perhaps waiting out on EV SUV is wise.
Hope to hear more deals that people are able to get.
Can you please provide the lease numbers for ID.4 Pro RWD. Zip 92020, 36/12. Do you foresee any changes in the lease incentive ($7500 off) with the passing of the all the legislation recently? Or does that not take effect until 2022?
Can you please provide the lease numbers for ID.4 Pro RWD. Zip 92020, 36/12. Do you foresee any changes in the lease incentive ($7500 off) with the passing of the all the legislation recently? Or does that not take effect until 2022?
Any new numbers in Dec for MF and % for an ID.4 Pro S AWD at 36/7.5 in 90066? Or still at .00143 and 50% ?
Cali has a $750 state incentive (California Clean Fuel Reward) that the dealer can apply. Federal Tax Credit for Plug-in Electric Vehicles and California Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) go to the buyer.
By the way: dealer is asking .00243 MF, the MSRP is not the same as on my order and he does not want to do MSD. A shame that the chip shortage hit during the 13 months I waited for delivery. VW USA does not want to help - I guess I'll walk and ride out the chip shortage.
Any new numbers in Dec for MF and % for an ID.4 Pro S AWD at 36/7.5 in 90066? Or still at .00143 and 50% ?
Cali has a $750 state incentive (California Clean Fuel Reward) that the dealer can apply. Federal Tax Credit for Plug-in Electric Vehicles and California Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) go to the buyer.
By the way: dealer is asking .00243 MF, the MSRP is not the same as on my order and he does not want to do MSD. A shame that the chip shortage hit during the 13 months I waited for delivery. VW USA does not want to help - I guess I'll walk and ride out the chip shortage.
My dealer (zip 33062) is claiming that the MF for December is 0.00243. I've told him that I consider Edmunds very reliable and it seems you've already stated that the December MF is unchanged from prior months, so 0.00143. Would you kindly confirm this, so I can have confidence in my negotiations? This dealership, like so many others right now, seem more interested in taking advantage of a potential new VW customer like me, just to make a few extra bucks, rather than building a long-term relationship. I'm getting close to filing a complaint with VW America.
Thanks in advance. And thanks for all the great information you provide!
My dealer (zip 33062) is claiming that the MF for December is 0.00243. I've told him that I consider Edmunds very reliable and it seems you've already stated that the December MF is unchanged from prior months, so 0.00143. Would you kindly confirm this, so I can have confidence in my negotiations? This dealership, like so many others right now, seem more interested in taking advantage of a potential new VW customer like me, just to make a few extra bucks, rather than building a long-term relationship. I'm getting close to filing a complaint with VW America.
Thanks in advance. And thanks for all the great information you provide!
.00143 is correct.
Dealer, however, is free to mark up the MF for extra profit. Given current market conditions, can't say I blame them.
Dealer, however, is free to mark up the MF for extra profit. Given current market conditions, can't say I blame them.
You are free to shop around, of course.
Thanks so much for replying. This is just general conversation now, but the issues I have with this dealer marking up the MF are (1) they are not acknowledging the markup, but instead claiming that .00243 is in fact the official VW credit MF for December - so they're lying to me; and (2) they are risking a long-term customer relationship for a few hundred extra bucks. If they sour me on this deal, I will (1) badmouth them at every chance I get to other potential customers - and I know several other people interested in the ID.4; (2) never step foot in their dealership again; and (3) probably never buy a VW either. From what I've read, VW America isn't doing much to help people like me (who ordered their ID.4s months or even a year ago and expect some small degree of appreciation for their patience). VW has already made a few other missteps with the ID.4 (such as no software updates yet in the USA). During a time when VW is trying to transform its image in America, it's mind boggling to me that they don't demand that their dealers emphasize good customer relationships above everything else.
Dealer, however, is free to mark up the MF for extra profit. Given current market conditions, can't say I blame them.
You are free to shop around, of course.
Thanks so much for replying. This is just general conversation now, but the issues I have with this dealer marking up the MF are (1) they are not acknowledging the markup, but instead claiming that .00243 is in fact the official VW credit MF for December - so they're lying to me; and (2) they are risking a long-term customer relationship for a few hundred extra bucks. If they sour me on this deal, I will (1) badmouth them at every chance I get to other potential customers - and I know several other people interested in the ID.4; (2) never step foot in their dealership again; and (3) probably never buy a VW either. From what I've read, VW America isn't doing much to help people like me (who ordered their ID.4s months or even a year ago and expect some small degree of appreciation for their patience). VW has already made a few other missteps with the ID.4 (such as no software updates yet in the USA). During a time when VW is trying to transform its image in America, it's mind boggling to me that they don't demand that their dealers emphasize good customer relationships above everything else.
Anyway, thanks again! Happy holidays!
Them: 1) Typical 2) .00100 markup is a LOT of money. $2500-$3000.
Happy holidays moderators. Can I get numbers for awd s with gradient package for 12k miles for 48 months? Other than 7500 any other incentives? Zip code 20148
Happy holidays moderators. Can I get numbers for awd s with gradient package for 12k miles for 48 months? Other than 7500 any other incentives? Zip code 20148
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For instance an ID.4 Pro S with $47,524 sales price returns a lease of $675 a month in CA, no downpayment, just the first month and DMV title and fees, despite the $7500 federal incentive. This was 36/7.5k.
For comparison, I just completed a BMW X3 lease, sales price around the same, but I paid $580 a month for 36/10 with no down.
I guess the MF and residual are not that competitive, though on the main vw.com site, they advertise a $459/mo. lease with $3437 drive off.
BMW also covers all scheduled maintenance during the lease. Not sure VW does?
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VW includes 2 years of maintenance on the ID.4 regardless of how it’s financed. But it’s a BEV, so maintenance shouldn’t really amount to much, regardless.
First of all, thank you for posting some price numbers, people in this thread only ask for MF , Residuals but never post what deals they could get, which is not helpful at all.
You are right , VW ID4 lease is not cheap if you compare with similar Non-EV leases. But if you want to switch to EV and an SUV then that’s the only option with free charging for 3 years and somewhat better pricing. If you account for gas price savings then that does make it a good lease for 3 years.
Since EV SUV market is still in early days for now, and with limited cars in market, dealers are taking advantage of the situation. They are quoting higher MF and more on MSRP than listed on VW site. One dealer wanted $7000 above MSRP in the Bay Area , when I declined they said what’s your best offer. So I simply declined to deal with them.
If you are not in rush then perhaps waiting out on EV SUV is wise.
Hope to hear more deals that people are able to get.
They also want you to pay a markup because inventory is low.
I'm not desperate to have a car now. For one thing, I can do a lot of Uber rides for the price of several thousand in dealer markup.
We don't get the numbers in advance
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50%/48% residual
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36/48 @12K
MF .00253/.00273
RV 48%/41%
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MSRP was honored but MF seems high? Any references?
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Hello can I get the MF and RV for an ID.4 Pro S RWD in zip 19605, terms 39/10 and 36/10. And any incentives.
49% / 47% for 36/39 and 10K
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Is the RV and MF better on a 24/10k for a Pro S RWD in zip code 91101? What would it be for a Pro AWD?
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Can you please provide the lease numbers for ID.4 Pro RWD. Zip 92020, 36/12.
Do you foresee any changes in the lease incentive ($7500 off) with the passing of the all the legislation recently? Or does that not take effect until 2022?
Thanks for your help!
$7500 lease cash
Sorry, no info on legislation
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Hi there,
MF and % for an ID.4 Pro S AWD at 36/7.5 in 90066 please. Just the $7.5k incentive?
$7500 incentive is all we see
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Would appreciate the MF & % for an ID.4 Pro S AWD at 36/12 and 39/12 in both 08817 and 30009 please.
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48%/46% residual for 36/39 mo
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Does VW offer multiple security deposits or one pay lease? What is money factor for 1 pay lease for 36 months/10k? Zip code 91101
One pay - deduct .00060 from MF
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Any new numbers in Dec for MF and % for an ID.4 Pro S AWD at 36/7.5 in 90066?
Or still at
.00143 and 50% ?
Cali has a $750 state incentive (California Clean Fuel Reward) that the dealer can apply. Federal Tax Credit for Plug-in Electric Vehicles and California Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) go to the buyer.
By the way: dealer is asking .00243 MF, the MSRP is not the same as on my order and he does not want to do MSD. A shame that the chip shortage hit during the 13 months I waited for delivery. VW USA does not want to help - I guess I'll walk and ride out the chip shortage.
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But can the dealer markup the price of the car above MSRP so the cap cost wouldn't be MSRP plus destination minus the $7500 lease cash?
With inventory shortages, it seems unlikely that you will get leases at MSRP + destination - lease cash.
Yes, the dealer can mark up the MSRP.
I agree that good deals are hard to find for almost any make or model.
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My dealer (zip 33062) is claiming that the MF for December is 0.00243. I've told him that I consider Edmunds very reliable and it seems you've already stated that the December MF is unchanged from prior months, so 0.00143. Would you kindly confirm this, so I can have confidence in my negotiations? This dealership, like so many others right now, seem more interested in taking advantage of a potential new VW customer like me, just to make a few extra bucks, rather than building a long-term relationship. I'm getting close to filing a complaint with VW America.
Thanks in advance. And thanks for all the great information you provide!
Dealer, however, is free to mark up the MF for extra profit. Given current market conditions, can't say I blame them.
You are free to shop around, of course.
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Anyway, thanks again! Happy holidays!
1) Typical
2) .00100 markup is a LOT of money. $2500-$3000.
You:
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Happy holidays moderators. Can I get numbers for awd s with gradient package for 12k miles for 48 months? Other than 7500 any other incentives? Zip code 20148
No other incentives
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Can I get the MF, Residual, and Incentives for the 2021 VW ID.4 Pro with 2wd/awd and 36/15k in zip code 94109?
Thanks a lot.
$7500 incentives
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Is it possible to get the MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD for 36/10k in zip code 11354?
Thanks in advance.
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