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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    Good morning. Might I get the residual value and money factor for a VW ID.4 AWD Pro S (Statement) with Gradient package, in zip code 05676? Thank you.
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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    That's for 36 months, at 15,000 miles per year.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693

    Good morning. Might I get the residual value and money factor for a VW ID.4 AWD Pro S (Statement) with Gradient package, in zip code 05676? Thank you.

    That's for 36 months, at 15,000 miles per year.

    .00143 MF and 46% residual
    $7500 lease cash

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    Good morning. Might I get the residual value and money factor for a VW ID.4 AWD Pro S (Statement) with Gradient package, in zip code 05676? Thank you.

    That's for 36 months, at 15,000 miles per year.

    .00143 MF and 46% residual
    $7500 lease cash

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    PerryoskimanoskiPerryoskimanoski Member Posts: 20
    wco81 said:

    So lease cash means what, they reduce the cap cost of the lease before calculating the portion you finance?

    But can the dealer markup the price of the car above MSRP so the cap cost wouldn't be MSRP plus destination minus the $7500 lease cash?

    With inventory shortages, it seems unlikely that you will get leases at MSRP + destination - lease cash.

    Also look at residual.. they can artificially lower residual and guess what... lease incentive wont be so impactful
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    wco81 said:

    So lease cash means what, they reduce the cap cost of the lease before calculating the portion you finance?

    But can the dealer markup the price of the car above MSRP so the cap cost wouldn't be MSRP plus destination minus the $7500 lease cash?

    With inventory shortages, it seems unlikely that you will get leases at MSRP + destination - lease cash.

    Also look at residual.. they can artificially lower residual and guess what... lease incentive wont be so impactful
    Residuals are fixed by the leasing bank. The dealer cannot change them.

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    PerryoskimanoskiPerryoskimanoski Member Posts: 20
    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

    Numbers on this model are the same, nationwide

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    PerryoskimanoskiPerryoskimanoski Member Posts: 20
    kyfdx said:

    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

    Numbers on this model are the same, nationwide
    I just spoke with a sales rep in a dealership and he said "It may apply depending on your tax liability" which I agree if I am financing.. but for leasing.. do you think he just was misinformed?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693

    kyfdx said:

    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

    Numbers on this model are the same, nationwide
    I just spoke with a sales rep in a dealership and he said "It may apply depending on your tax liability" which I agree if I am financing.. but for leasing.. do you think he just was misinformed?
    I have found that sales reps at dealerships are often misinformed.

    You may get a better answer from the finance manager .... but, you may not.

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    PerryoskimanoskiPerryoskimanoski Member Posts: 20
    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

    Numbers on this model are the same, nationwide
    I just spoke with a sales rep in a dealership and he said "It may apply depending on your tax liability" which I agree if I am financing.. but for leasing.. do you think he just was misinformed?
    I have found that sales reps at dealerships are often misinformed.

    You may get a better answer from the finance manager .... but, you may not.
    THhank you I appreciate your advice... I will try but its funny they tank the residual value to make the incentive attractive.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693

    Michaell said:

    kyfdx said:

    Hello moderators,

    MF, residual and incentives for a 2021 Pro RWD ; Pro S RWD for 36/10k in zip code 33025?

    Am I correct in thinking lease incentives depend on state? I've noticed some get 7500 others dont.

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

    Numbers on this model are the same, nationwide
    I just spoke with a sales rep in a dealership and he said "It may apply depending on your tax liability" which I agree if I am financing.. but for leasing.. do you think he just was misinformed?
    I have found that sales reps at dealerships are often misinformed.

    You may get a better answer from the finance manager .... but, you may not.
    THhank you I appreciate your advice... I will try but its funny they tank the residual value to make the incentive attractive.
    The bean counters at the bank set the residual value - one has nothing to do with the other.

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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    My ID.4 AWD arrived yesterday at my dealer. This morning they sent me a lease offer that is much less favorable than what VW offered when I ordered the car a year ago, and not in line with the residual values and money factors I see on this forum. Any advice on what I should do?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    My ID.4 AWD arrived yesterday at my dealer. This morning they sent me a lease offer that is much less favorable than what VW offered when I ordered the car a year ago, and not in line with the residual values and money factors I see on this forum. Any advice on what I should do?

    Is it a 2021 or 2022?

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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    It is a 2021 model, ordered in December of 2020.
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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    My dealer offers me a monthly payment of $671 for my car, for a 36/15 lease. He won't tell me how he arrived at this number.

    My own calculations are as follows:

    We start with an MSRP of $51,265, as shown on the Monroney label, and including destination charges.
    We subtract $500 for my down payment, $7500 for the Federal tax credit, and $4000 for the Vermont tax credit. This leaves our net cost at $39,265.

    With a residual value of 46% of MSRP, the car should be worth $23,582 at the end of three years. Thus the lease amount is $15,683.

    Add to this the state tax of 6%, or $941; VW's lease fee of $700; the dealer's documentation fee of $400; and a Vermont Registration fee of $117; and we get total payments of $17,841.

    Add to this a money factor of .00143, or $918, for a total of $18,759 in payments. Over 36 payments, that’s $521 per month.

    Please tell me where my calculation is faulty.

    Thank you.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    My dealer offers me a monthly payment of $671 for my car, for a 36/15 lease. He won't tell me how he arrived at this number.

    My own calculations are as follows:

    We start with an MSRP of $51,265, as shown on the Monroney label, and including destination charges.
    We subtract $500 for my down payment, $7500 for the Federal tax credit, and $4000 for the Vermont tax credit. This leaves our net cost at $39,265.

    With a residual value of 46% of MSRP, the car should be worth $23,582 at the end of three years. Thus the lease amount is $15,683.

    Add to this the state tax of 6%, or $941; VW's lease fee of $700; the dealer's documentation fee of $400; and a Vermont Registration fee of $117; and we get total payments of $17,841.

    Add to this a money factor of .00143, or $918, for a total of $18,759 in payments. Over 36 payments, that’s $521 per month.

    Please tell me where my calculation is faulty.

    Thank you.

    The dealer has to show you how they arrived at the number. It will be on the lease contract.

    But, a couple of notes.

    Appears that VT charges 6% tax on the difference between agreed value and residual. Agreed value will be the selling price, before rebates and down payments.
    This would impute a taxable amount of $35,582, as the selling price is MSRP (before reducing by rebates).
    $2134 tax vs your computation of $941.

    Adjusted CAP cost:
    $39265
    +2134 (my tax calculation)
    +700
    +400
    +117
    = $42,616 adjusted CAP
    - $23,582 residual
    = $19034 depreciation

    Depreciation / term = $19034 / 36 = $528.73/mo
    Monthly rent charge = (Adjusted CAP + residual) = $66198 X .00143 = $94.66/mo.

    $528.73
    +$94.66
    = $623.39 monthly payment.

    That's assuming you make another payment of $623 at lease signing (for the first payment. If you are making no further payment, the payment would be closer to $641/mo.

    I've made a lot of assumptions, based on your post. But, if you get the actual numbers from the dealer, you might see where the differences actually lie. I'm about $30/mo. lower than the dealer, but I'm guessing on a few things.

    The biggest issues with your calculation that I see, is that I think you've miscalculated the sales tax, and also the amounts that are subject to the money factor.

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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    Thank you for your help. Very useful.
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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    The dealer finally sent me a fuzzy screen shot of his lease calculations. Looks like he has doubled the money factor to 0.0028, despite my near-perfect credit rating, causing an $80 per month jump on the monthly payment. He will not budge -- take it or leave it. But alas, I have been waiting a year for this car, and none similar are available anywhere nearby. So it looks like he has me over a barrel.
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    The dealer finally sent me a fuzzy screen shot of his lease calculations. Looks like he has doubled the money factor to 0.0028, despite my near-perfect credit rating, causing an $80 per month jump on the monthly payment. He will not budge -- take it or leave it. But alas, I have been waiting a year for this car, and none similar are available anywhere nearby. So it looks like he has me over a barrel.

    I’d leave it

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    GrandpaJimGrandpaJim Member Posts: 8
    And so sleazy dealer wins. And I have no car, after a year of waiting. Can't find a similar AWD electric anywhere...
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    And so sleazy dealer wins. And I have no car, after a year of waiting. Can't find a similar AWD electric anywhere...

    Good luck with your decision.

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    ctizzy13ctizzy13 Member Posts: 3
    edited February 2022
    Hi - please could you advise as to the current MF and residual for a 2021 Pro S (Statement) AWD for 36/10k? Thanks!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949
    ctizzy13 said:

    Hi - please could you advise as to the current MF and residual for a 2021 Pro S (Statement) AWD for 36/10k? Thanks!

    .00143 MF and 49% residual
    $7500 lease cash

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    Dominican_redsoxDominican_redsox Member Posts: 11
    Hello, please could you advise as to the current MF and residual for a 2022 Id.4 Pro for 36/12k and 39/12k
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693

    Hello, please could you advise as to the current MF and residual for a 2022 Id.4 Pro for 36/12k and 39/12k

    Please repost into the new 2022 ID.4 discussion

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    looking__looking__ Member Posts: 8
    What is the current RV, MF for 2021 VW ID4 ProS AWD
    12k mi/year
    15k mi/year
    24/36/39/48 mo terms
    zip 90404
    Thank You
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    looking__ said:

    What is the current RV, MF for 2021 VW ID4 ProS AWD
    12k mi/year
    15k mi/year
    24/36/39/48 mo terms
    zip 90404
    Thank You

    24/15 - .00143 and 53%
    36/15 - .00143 and 46%
    39/15 - .00143 and 44%
    48/15 - .00163 and 39%
    $7500 lease cash

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    davpeldavpel Member Posts: 7
    Hi. I'd be appreciative if you could provide the current RV, MF for 2021 VW ID4 ProS AWD
    12k mi/year
    15k mi/year
    24/36/39/48 mo terms
    zip 48331
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949
    davpel said:

    Hi. I'd be appreciative if you could provide the current RV, MF for 2021 VW ID4 ProS AWD
    12k mi/year
    15k mi/year
    24/36/39/48 mo terms
    zip 48331

    15K/yr
    .00143 MF and 53% residual
    .00143 MF and 46% residual
    .00143 MF and 44% residual
    .00163 MF and 39% residual

    $7500 lease cash

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    ErneMilanErneMilan Member Posts: 37
    Hello may i please get mf, rv and incentives for ID 4 pro s 2021. 36/10 zip code 33157. Thank you.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    ErneMilan said:

    Hello may i please get mf, rv and incentives for ID 4 pro s 2021. 36/10 zip code 33157. Thank you.

    .00143 MF and 49% RV
    $7500 lease cash

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    ErneMilanErneMilan Member Posts: 37
    Michaell said:

    ErneMilan said:

    Hello may i please get mf, rv and incentives for ID 4 pro s 2021. 36/10 zip code 33157. Thank you.

    .00143 MF and 49% RV
    $7500 lease cash
    Apologies for my ignorance, but is this 7500 the federal ev tax credit? If not can i get it in the next tax year? Or is only for purchased cars not leases? Thank you for the info.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    ErneMilan said:

    Michaell said:

    ErneMilan said:

    Hello may i please get mf, rv and incentives for ID 4 pro s 2021. 36/10 zip code 33157. Thank you.

    .00143 MF and 49% RV
    $7500 lease cash
    Apologies for my ignorance, but is this 7500 the federal ev tax credit? If not can i get it in the next tax year? Or is only for purchased cars not leases? Thank you for the info.
    It is the equivalent of the tax credit.

    You only get to claim the credit when you purchase, not lease.

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    bksnbriefsbksnbriefs Member Posts: 2
    Thank you in advance.
    May I get the mf, rv and incentives for iD 4 pro s 2021 in zip code 94014.
    24/15
    36/15
    48/15
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    Thank you in advance.
    May I get the mf, rv and incentives for iD 4 pro s 2021 in zip code 94014.
    24/15
    36/15
    48/15

    .00143 MF and 53% residual
    .00143 MF and 46% residual
    .00163 MF and 39% residual

    $7500 lease cash

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    Robert458Robert458 Member Posts: 14
    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949
    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    .00143 MF and 48% residual
    $7500 lease cash

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    prithvisri_1prithvisri_1 Member Posts: 17
    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
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    Robert458Robert458 Member Posts: 14

    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
    Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. It was for a 2021, but the local dealer will do MSRP on an order with 6-8 months lead time. I think those might be 2022 models.

    I'm getting about $623/mo for a 36/12K lease with the current numbers and $7500 lease cash. That's with 8.25% tax

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949
    Robert458 said:

    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
    Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. It was for a 2021, but the local dealer will do MSRP on an order with 6-8 months lead time. I think those might be 2022 models.

    I'm getting about $623/mo for a 36/12K lease with the current numbers and $7500 lease cash. That's with 8.25% tax

    We don't have any of the numbers for a 2022 model. If we did, they wouldn't be valid six months from now.

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    Robert458 said:

    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
    Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. It was for a 2021, but the local dealer will do MSRP on an order with 6-8 months lead time. I think those might be 2022 models.

    I'm getting about $623/mo for a 36/12K lease with the current numbers and $7500 lease cash. That's with 8.25% tax

    Where are you located? I just placed an order for an ID.4, and was told 8-12 months to delivery.

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    Robert458Robert458 Member Posts: 14
    Michaell said:

    Robert458 said:

    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
    Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. It was for a 2021, but the local dealer will do MSRP on an order with 6-8 months lead time. I think those might be 2022 models.

    I'm getting about $623/mo for a 36/12K lease with the current numbers and $7500 lease cash. That's with 8.25% tax

    Where are you located? I just placed an order for an ID.4, and was told 8-12 months to delivery.
    I'm in the SF Bay Area. Maybe my dealer is being overly optimistic.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    Robert458 said:

    Michaell said:

    Robert458 said:

    Robert458 said:

    Hey guys. Is there a 36/12K lease for a Pro S RWD?
    If not, can I confirm the numbers for 36/10K and 36/15K Pro S RWD at 94920.
    Thanks for all you are doing in these challenging times of car buying!

    Robert,
    Is this a 2022 or a 2021? Also, what's the price you negotiated and how much is the monthly payment coming upto? Thank you very much in advance.
    Sorry for the late reply, just saw this. It was for a 2021, but the local dealer will do MSRP on an order with 6-8 months lead time. I think those might be 2022 models.

    I'm getting about $623/mo for a 36/12K lease with the current numbers and $7500 lease cash. That's with 8.25% tax

    Where are you located? I just placed an order for an ID.4, and was told 8-12 months to delivery.
    I'm in the SF Bay Area. Maybe my dealer is being overly optimistic.
    Well, lots of folks are eagerly anticipating the TN plant coming on-line later this year, to help with the backlog.

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    aasuncionaasuncion Member Posts: 126
    May I please get the MF, RV, and incentives on a 2021 ID.4 First Edition, 36/7.5, 39/7.5, 48/7.5, zipcode: 08610, thanks in advance!
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    aasuncion said:

    May I please get the MF, RV, and incentives on a 2021 ID.4 First Edition, 36/7.5, 39/7.5, 48/7.5, zipcode: 08610, thanks in advance!

    .00143 MF and 50%
    .00143 MF and 48%
    .00163 MF and 43%
    $7500 lease cash

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    aasuncionaasuncion Member Posts: 126

    May I please get the MF, RV, and incentives for the 21 pro s AWD, 36/39/48 7.5K, zip code: 08610

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693
    aasuncion said:

    May I please get the MF, RV, and incentives for the 21 pro s AWD, 36/39/48 7.5K, zip code: 08610

    Same as the 1st Edition above

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 242,693

    Looked extensively through the 6 pages.

    Does anyone know the Residual value for 24 months, 15000 miles.

    53% for 24/15

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 238,949

    Looked extensively through the 6 pages.

    Does anyone know the Residual value for 24 months, 15000 miles.

    Always a 7% difference between 24/36 months, with VW

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