2008 Nissan Rogue

Starting A Discussion on the new 2008 Nissan Rouge.
What do you like & dislike about this SUV ??
What do you like & dislike about this SUV ??
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I like how Nissan is offering a similar sized alternative to the Xterra and from whatever I see the Rogue has everything it needs to compete. I'd choose it over everything in its class except maybe for the RAV4 and Equinox/Torrent because of their powerful engines and performance. Just gotta say I don't like the name Rogue much.
Some Rogue links.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/12/28/2008-nissan-rogue/
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=118987
One thing I don't like? The estimated pricing. From what I've read, it's likely to start at $27K for a base, 2WD (ouch!) and go up to $38K for one that is fully-loaded. Is Nissan joking? With new contenders from Mitsubishi and Hyundai, Nissan needs more competitive pricing if it wants this truck to become a strong seller.
It doesn't help that the Hyundai Tuscon can be had for less than $27K either...
And the 2.5 is a good performer. The Rogue may turn out to be a strong entry in the small crossover field.
I like the style of the Rogue, Not that crazy with the CR-V front end, & Hate the back door with tire on the Rav4 :mad: !
I like the Patriot but she'd never accept the cheap interior. And I'd have durability issues with the Jeep.
USA, Mexico or Japan ? & What Plant ?
My best guess would either be Mexico or Canton, Mississippi.
Japan is doubtful; Honda and Toyota both build their small CUVs in North America now.
Personally, I like the looks of this vehicle. To my eyes it looks a lot like the new Santa Fe, which I also like quite a bit. It's a pity that Nissan still offers a pultry warranty, though. Competing brands such as Mitsu and Hyundai offer much better warranties on their vehicles.
From what I read, the 2.5 is a strong engine that gets good mpg. And the CVT works well in the Altima. The 3.5 would kick butt but it would steal thunder from the Murano.
IMO, the Rogue will be a direct competitor to the Honda CRV.
Tony/PHX,AZ
My current prospects are:
'08 Nissan Rogue - Right now this is the top contender. I really like the styling and from the early reports, it looks like its gonna have all the features I want/need (except maybe navigation) at a reasonable price. I just wish Nissan would release the final pricing/specs. It appears that the Qashqai offers a Nav. system, so maybe it'll be on the Rogue as well.
'08 Jeep Liberty - Though I am getting sick of Jeep and Chrysler's financial problems concern me a bit.
'08 Honda CR-V - Lacking a little in power, and now Bluetooth option. Will definitely be giving this a testdrive, I may be in the minority, but I like the new look of this one. Glad they got rid of the horizontal tailgate.
'08 RAV4 - I really don't like the horizontal rear door on my Liberty, but at least that has the sep. top half which opens vertically to put stuff in, or allow long things to stick out. The RAV-4 only opens to the side, which is terrible if someone is parked behind you.
'08 Saturn VUE - I like the new look of this, but again, no Bluetooth and no prospect of BT since GM is married to OnStar. Still waiting on the final specs, will definitely test drive it.
'08 Hyundai Tucsan - Don't know much about Hyundai. They used to be considered a cheap company, but it seems their rep has gotten better over the years. Great warranty, this one will at least get a test drive.
'08 Mitsubishi Outlander - Has a lot of features, priced well, and has a great warranty. Don't know anyone who owns one, or a Mitsu period. Have read several complaints of engine noise and mysterious rattling noises on the '07 models, maybe it'll be fixed for '08.
'08 Subaru Forrester - Gets good gas mileage and handles well. It is reasonably priced, but might be a little too much like a station wagon for me.
'08 Mazda CX-7 - Cockpit felt a bit cramped when I sat in one at the dealership about 6 months ago, but might warrant another look.
'08 VW Tiguan - Still waiting on the specs on this one. Unfortunately all spy shots had that HORRID color.
I traded in the 2nd Cherokee (for the '02 Liberty) to avoid shelling out money to fix the AC.
I bought the first model year of the Liberty and so far there have been 3 (or 4) recall repairs that needed to be done, otherwise things haven't been so bad.
I am just about at 81k, there was one transmission issue that came up at about 79k miles. Fortunately because it happened before 80k miles I didn't have to pay for that (due to some federal law), it would have cost me 2-3k, but I did have to pay $200 for new O2 sensors.
I was initially excited about the (better gas mileage) Patriot, but its been delayed for months. In the meantime I've seen other vehicles that interest me more. I have heard Chrysler has been having financial issues, so I'm not sure I want to buy another Chrysler vehicle. I think its just time for something new. I have heard really good things about both Nissan, Honda and Toyota. So I figure I'd give them a good look this time.
Before I bought the Liberty, I did test drive a Ford Escape, but I really preferred the interior/features of the Liberty. I got more of a passenger/delivery van feel from the Escape.
Nissan Rogue
Hyundai Santa Fe Limited
Honda CRV EXL
Ford Escape Hybrid
Toyota Rav4 is off the list as I do not like the rear door.
Rogue: Sounds promising to me too. The 2.5 and CVT do great in the Altima. The styling is slick and power and mpg should be good. The biggest threat to the CRV IMO.
Liberty: I'm not a Liberty fan. But it's the best on your list for offroad. MPG not very good. For those more interested in price and economy, consider the new Jeep Patriot.
Honda CRV: Great choice for good economy and well equipped. Those who want a 250hp V6 won't like it.
RAV4: A killer V6 that gets decent mpg. I don't like the rear mounted spare.
Vue2008: Will know more after test drives. The 3.6 V6 and 6sp auto sound great tho. Curious about mpg and pricing.
Tuscon: Great warranty. MPG a little disappointing, even with the 4cyl. Like the styling. A little porky for the size.
08 Outlander: An alternative to RAV4 and Santa Fe. Might be a case of good but not great.
Forester: Great all around choice. Decent power, good economy and the security of AWD. May be too close to "car/wagon" for some tastes. The turbo is a hot rod blast.
Mazda CX7: Great looks. Handling of a Mazda. Don't like the idea of premium fuel for the turbo. A good V6 might have been better.
Tiguan: Real excited about finally getting a diesel SUV. Styling is good, mpg should be excellent. Pricing unknown. Like the Vue, will know more after test drives.
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Well, we ended up buying a 2007 Mariner V6 for my wife. With a $2200 discount on the D Plan plus 0% financing, it was hard to turn down.
My choice would have been a CRV or wait for the Rogue.
Unfortunately I've seen some reports that claim the VW Tiguan is an '09 model. Sent VW an email for more info, will post if I hear anything back.
Right now I'm mostly interested in the pricing/specs/test drive for both the VUE and the Rogue. VUE is supposed to be available Spring '07 so I imagine we'll see these specs soon. Anynoe know when Nissan usually publishes the final specs of their fall-released cars?
I believe the new (Dodge-Nitro-Like) Liberty is supposed to be revealed at the NY Auto Show during the first week of April so those specs might be available soon as well. Though I'm not expecting much in terms of MPG from the Liberty. The Patriot definitely appears to be the way to go for better MPG on Jeep.
One addition that I might make to my list is the '08 Hybrid Ford Escape. After Federal rebates it could fall into my price-range as well. It looks like Ford classed up the interior a bit from when I looked at the Escape 5+ years ago, but for some reason it still looks a little cheap inside to me. (Same with the Huyndai Tucson). Maybe its the single color dash/wheel thing that just turns me off.
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So I suspect this means the Tiguan will not be available in 2008. If the Tiguan's TDI turns out to not be 50-state emission standards friendly then I wouldn't be able to get it in MA anyways.
The 2.5 Nissan engine is a big selling point for me
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It's a matter of personal choice but I'd rather pay 20k for a conventional 4cyl that gets 30hwy than 30k for a hybrid that doesn't do much better. Granted, city mpg will be better on the hybrid.
But I just don't think hybrids are cost effective. Except maybe the Prius or the Civic. I'd prefer a diesel over a hybrid. Great mpg, loads of torque and less expensive. The TDI VW Golf was near 50mpg hwy and had a 700 mile range on a tank. That is sweet.
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How does this sound?... A Patriot that gets 40mpg hwy and has 250lbs of torque. Please, hurry up with the diesels!
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The Liberty is much heavier than the Patriot. And the Liberty used a 2.8, I think the European Patriot has a 2.0. The 1.9 turbodiesel in the VW Golf was rated at 49mpg hwy.
If a 2.4 gas engine can achieve 30hwy in the Patriot, there's no reason a good diesel can't hit 40. With a lot more torque.
And to stay on subject, I hope Nissan offers a diesel in the Rogue too.
Tony
here is a link to an article that Car and Driver did on the car...
Tony
Of course, we don't even have a "Rogue" section yet...
I want to see what it'll cost with all the bells and whistles and I am also curious what the fuel economy will be for the AWD model.
I really want to test drive this to see what the CVT transmission feels like, but that'll have to wait until the Fall when they finally start popping up at the dealers.
Current Nissan models have the following mpg:
murano 19/24
altima 26/34
sentra 29/36
Rogue is built on the same base as the Sentra, so I would expect it to get better mpg than the larger Murano, but prob not quite as good as the Sentra since that's only FWD and probably lighter than the Rogue.
The UK version of the Rogue (the Nissan Qashqai) gets REALLY good gas mileage, prob because its based on the Versa platform instead. Although I believe it also has less power than the Rogue.
http://www.nissan.co.uk/home/v...en_GB
No matter what the mpg, the Rogue has definitely got to do better than the 16.7 avg mpg that I'm getting from my Liberty now.
For the past two weeks, Nissan has released pricing for diff '08 models on Tuesday, so hopefully the Rogue pricing will show up on nissannews.com tomorrow.
I'd like to know if there will be interior color options besides black, too. I'm not terribly fond of black interiors...
Before long, many people may refuse to buy a car that doesn't get at least 30mpg hwy.