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.00188 MF and 55% residual
$7500 PHEV incentive
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.00159 MF and 48% residual
$6000 incentive
$7500 PHEV incentive
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Thank you , much appreciated
Looking for incentives, MF and residual for a 2023 GC 4x4 Limited for a 36/10k lease in 07450. Thanks!
$2500 incentive
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So i just came back from the dealer and i was trying to lease a grand cherokee limited 4x4 for 0 down 39mo 10k. The sticker is $53,890 but when i calculate it my monthly is $725.34 and they are coming up with 748.84. This is the print out he gave me and said he don’t know why the numbers are different and that the auto calculators aren’t right . Can someone please look and tell me what i am missing or what they are adding in there . Thanks
Since I can't see your calculations, I can't tell you where you went astray.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
what am missing ?



Is there a dealer fee in there ?
They told me no fees just msrp
Please let me know what i am missing
thanks
Actual capped sales tax is less than your calculation, but I don't see where you have made any allowance for 1st payment and fees.
$2480 tax actual vs. $2695 on the calculator
$0 Due at signing actual vs. $723 due at signing on calculator.
$428 in fees, actual vs. $0 fees in calculator
-$1214 in CAP reduction actual vs -$2500 in calculator
$1694 net actual vs $918 in calculator
= $776 higher actual CAP cost.
$776/39 = $20/mo. higher payment
That's not exactly the difference, but I was rounding things off..
And, it's not really more expensive, because you don't have the first payment out of pocket.
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On the MY23 Grand Cherokee Summit Reserve 4xe, I paid $2k at signing, 39 months/10k miles, with $8,730 negative equity from the old and a $1,300 service contract for the new vehicle, the monthly payment is $1,183.94 incl. tax (Sticker: $86,960).
On the MY23 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 4xe, I paid $1k at signing, 39 months/10k miles, with $450 positive equity from the old and a $1,300 service contract for the new vehicle, the monthly payment is $890.73 incl. tax (Sticker: $73,225).
Usually, I'm not a fan of rolling a high amount of negative equity into a new lease but the discounts, rebates and credits on the Summit Reserve were $20,000 so I could do this with the monthly payment only going up by $90 - for a newer and better equipped vehicle.
Thanks again to all contributing members on this forum - you guys helped a lot in evaluating the deals.
Thanks for the detailed report.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Morning.
Could one of you fine people send along the base mf and RV for a 2023 GC Limited 4xe
Open to best term @12k mi/yr.
Edit: 02339
TIA!
.00172 MF and 52% residual
$4000 incentive
$7500 PHEV incentive
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Sorry, would you mind sending for overland and summit as well?
Thanks
Sorry, would you mind sending for overland and summit as well?
Thanks
OVR
.00154 and 50%
$5000 incentives
SUM
.00159 and 50%
$6000 incentives
+$7500 PHEV bonus
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
@kyfdx and @Michaell
Thanks for the assist today guys.
Landed a lease on a limited 4xe for my brother this afternoon.
Probably could have gotten more off, but he opened his mouth and gave numbers that worked against where I was going. (I was shooting for 7.5%-10% from the dealer + incentives)
Nonetheless, here’s the terms
39mo @12k mi
MSRP: $63,900
Sale Price : $49,500
Discount: $14,400 (22.5%)
- $11,500 incentives (18%)
- $2,900 dealer (4.5%)
Down: $0
MF: 0.00207
RV: $34,506 (54%)
Pmnt: $507/mo + tax
Only initials DAS. (Tomorrow, late in the.day credit app)
Also got him 19k on his trade (2017 GC limited 70k miles) - taking the equity out as cash.
Thanks again!
Thanks for the report.
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
4x2 or 4x4?
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.00166 and 59%
.00173 and 50%
OVR
.00162 and 60%
.00169 and 50%
$12,500 incentives
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2015 Subaru Outback 3.6R / 2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid SX Prestige
Could you please provide MF and Res for Grand Cherokee Summit (non 4xe) and Summit Reserve 4xE as well as any incentives for either in 20147? 2 row model and 4x4 if needed.
36mos /12k
36mos / 15k
Thank you in advance
Summit 4X4
.00104 MF and 50% residual
$2000 incentive
SumRSV 4XE
.00173 MF and 50% residual
$8500 incentive
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30th - .00172 MF and 52% RV
OVR - .00154 MF and 50% RV
$7500 incentives
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Ok, so nightmare afternoon dealing with the dealer… my brother went in to finish paperwork after getting loan approval this morning.
Despite explicitly telling the salesman yesterday that we wanted the equity out of the trade multiple times and selecting a zero down term, they secretly rolled the equity in anyway. If we pull equity out, price will increase ~$143/mo
They’re also telling us that there’s an extra $1650 for a vehicle protectant and glass etching which we also explicitly said we don’t want and won’t pay for.
So if we pull the equity out and pay the extra $1650, the pre tax payment goes to ~$643/mo instead of the ~$500-$507 we were expecting (which after calculating should have been more like $470)…. Should have really done the math out in detail sooner; that’s on me
If we leave equity in and pay the extra ~$1650, per tax payment would go to ~$516.
Very convoluted…. Deal is on hold at the moment, and obviously we’re pretty pissed off.
Not feeling like this is a good deal anymore.
Anyone have any thoughts or recommendations?
Ok, so nightmare afternoon dealing with the dealer… my brother went in to finish paperwork after getting loan approval this morning.
Despite explicitly telling the salesman yesterday that we wanted the equity out of the trade multiple times and selecting a zero down term, they secretly rolled the equity in anyway. If we pull equity out, price will increase ~$143/mo
They’re also telling us that there’s an extra $1650 for a vehicle protectant and glass etching which we also explicitly said we don’t want and won’t pay for.
So if we pull the equity out and pay the extra $1650, the pre tax payment goes to ~$643/mo instead of the ~$500-$507 we were expecting (which after calculating should have been more like $470)…. Should have really done the math out in detail sooner; that’s on me
If we leave equity in and pay the extra ~$1650, per tax payment would go to ~$516.
Very convoluted…. Deal is on hold at the moment, and obviously we’re pretty pissed off.
Not feeling like this is a good deal anymore.
Anyone have any thoughts or recommendations?
Uh oh.
Gotta love the dealer games. Not.
I'm sorry for your experience, and it sounds like you've learned a thing or three about running the numbers.
Is it too late to start over with a new dealer?
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I don’t see why we couldn’t change dealers at this point. What makes this even more frustrating is that we’ve used this dealer multiple times before (just not this salesman) and nothing to this magnitude has ever happened.
I normally do run the numbers myself, but guess I just gained enough trust in this dealership that I let it go.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s still not a bad deal, but it’s no where near as good as we were initially thinking.
643/639.9 = 1.004, so just very slightly above the 1% rule. Plus there’s also a $3750 federal tax credit that isn’t factored in and would reduce the effective payment.
The $3,750 only apply if you buy (finance) the vehicle. In that case, however, you won't get the $7,500.
It's either/or...
Gotcha. Thanks for confirming that.
When speaking with the dealer on Sunday, they said that none of the 7500 was federal and it was all through Stellantis.
Trying to salvage the deal, and they backtracked when I questioned them on it.
Gotcha. Thanks for confirming that.
When speaking with the dealer on Sunday, they said that none of the 7500 was federal and it was all through Stellantis.
Trying to salvage the deal, and they backtracked when I questioned them on it.
We don't have the Stellantis lease programs available to us, only Chrysler Captial.
However, the dealer is correct in that the bank (whichever it is), is offering the $7500 as a lease incentive, since the bank would receive the tax credits as the owner of the vehicle.
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Looking for most favorable terms so give me a few options such as 24/10/12, 36/10/12/15
80014 Thanks
Please give us your top three combinations.
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24/12 trailhawk and overland
36/10 trailhawk and overland
I know thats 4 combos but it would really help. Thanks
24/12
OVR - .00162 MF and 61% RV
TRL - .00173 MF and 60% RV
36/10
.00169 MF and 53% RV
.00177 MF and 52% RV
OVR - $11,500 incentives
TRL - $10,500 incentives
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$11,500 incentives
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Thanks in advance.
$11,500 incentives
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Thank you.
OVR - .00154 and 50%
Same incentives
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Looking for incentive mf residual for 2023 gc 4xe base 55129
24/15k
36/15k
24/12k
36/12k
36/15 - .00188 MF and 52% RV
$7500 incentives
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