Has anyone had trouble getting bids via email for the CX9? Most of the dealers within 60 miles of me are refusing to deal unless I come in. I didn't have this trouble with the Veracruz. Is it a Madza thing?
I emailed about 10 dealers and had no trouble getting quotes either via email or over the phone for a 2008 or 2009. Keep calling. There is no need to go into a dealership, except to sign the papers.
It is amazing to me that some dealers have never responded to an e-mail / web request that included exact car and that I was ready to buy... It varies from dealer to dealer... one I have contacted send's me an e-mail every day or two for the past week while others I am still waiting to hear back from.
Spoke with Internet Manager about '08 GT FWD with Bose/Moonroof and GT Assist. Was able to get a quick $9k off but was hoping to find $10k with further research. Was curious whether this was still a reasonable goal or not? Any comments?
Also, does anyone know whether Remote Start is factory or dealer installed? I never see it on any of the packages and options and I have looked at a bunch. I was going to use the addition of this option as a negotiation point.
I was looking at some of the other forums for 7 passenger vehicles and they were posting the current Wholesale prices for those vehicles. Does anyone know a ballpark figure for the CX-9?
I have been offered an 08 GT with Moon and Assistance package for 30300 + TTL. I thought this was a great deal until I saw someone had written that the dealer has $7250 to play with on the GTs. Invoice is 36750. Does this mean I should be pushing for a number closer to 29500?
I'm trying to figure out how much to offer on an 08 GT FWD w/ wheel locks, blind spot monitor, and mud guards. MSRP is 34,380. In reading several pages here, it looks like I may be able to swing somewhere around 7k off MSRP, but I'm not sure if that was the November deals. The dealer, I believe, is a fairly decent volume dealer in an affluent area in Nashville so that may help? I am thinking of offering 27,130 which is the 4250 off on top of the extra 3grand or so markup on the GTs. Is this a fair offer?
Also will I still be able to qualify for 0% financing getting this deal? I've not that much experience in this.
Edit: I think I would also qualify for the owner loyalty incentive. Are they still offering that?
This is in GA dealer and I bought AWD CX-9 brand new 2008. I looked into the Door tag. This manufactured in Mar'08 and sitting in the inventory for the last 9 months. That is the reason dealer offered great price. They don't have anymore AWD vehicle with the dealer. I was looking only AWD vehicle and entire South East there are only 3 in inventory (only one GT).
and no, you won't be able to get the 0% too. I think you lose the 4250 if you want the financing. chances are your total interest is less than that so you are better taking the cheaper price.
The 'best' they could do was 31k claiming there isn't much markup on those particular GTs. He seemed fairly confident that he wouldn't be contacting me again.
I have just started poking around a few dealers regarding pricing (I'm in the northeast) and the immediate quotes are all ~8k off MSRP for GT's. I suspect this is based on the $4250 incentive plus the ~$3k markup plus holdback. My sense is that deals much beyond that are a bit more rare,and may be based on local factors, such as a specific dealer's volume numbers, or other unseen motivators.
It does give one pause to see some of the deals posted here however. I hope it doesn't freeze me.
please stop asking if you got a good deal. $8000 off GT is good and easy to get $9000 off GT is very good and still not too hard to get $10000 off GT is excellent and requires a bit more work $11000 off GT is almost unheard of -- go drive and stop osting
my numbers are off msrp. $11000 off invoice would be like $14000 off msrp, and that would be totally insane. one only get those kinds of deals for things like H2 Hummers
Sorry, can you explain "mark up"? I assume this is all still relative to invoice. I had been planning on offering 7250 under invoice and then being prepared to pay $500 over that.
Dealer I am working with in NY is saying the same thing. I'm within $200 of invoice on '08 AWD GT (about $8,500 off MSRP), but that is only accounting for the $4250 rebate. And it has been a real struggle to get to this price. No chance they will bite on this extra $3K off.
Should I even bother approaching a dealer for an S-Plan price, or can one do better negotiating on your own? Does anyone know how much commission a dealer gets for an S-Plan sale?
S-Plan is invoice on the car, and you get any incentive available. If you get the S-Plan price, and it is submitted as an S-Plan deal, then there is no negotiating on the price. A dealer cannot deviate from that price if the car is reported sold as an "S-Plan" deal, or the dealer gets in real big trouble.
Also, as an S-Plan customer, you are supposed to inform the participating dealer that you are right off the bat, as per the Partner Program rules. Your company, or whoever you are getting the PIN from tells you that.
Feel free to do what you think will give you the best deal. It ultimately depends on what the dealer is willing to do. Why don't you submit an Internet inquiry to a few area dealers and see what you get, and take it from there. That's my advice. You may get a better price then S-Plan that way. Who knows!
Here's the kicker, I'll try to make a long story short. I already bought the car, and thought I was paying $500 under invoice through normal negatiation. Turns out I paid 100 under invoice, because their invoice price was inflated by $400 for some reason and I didn't know it. So there was a quick mention of me being part of the X-plan during our negotiating, but I did not pursue that because I mistakenly thought it was only for Ford vehicles. So we did the deal, I've had the car for 2 weeks, and now the dealer is pestering me for an S-plan PIN. I'm thinking: 1- we never did an S-plan deal. Was never shown an S-plan price, never signed anything for an S-plan deal. 2- I'll be darned if I'm going to give the dealer a PIN for them to make more money on a commission when it appears they boned me on invoice price
So I'm wondering how much of a commission they stand to make on S-plan, and was planning on using that as a bargaining chip to recover the money I thought I was going to save at under invoice. Clear as mud??
Me thinkey that the dealer isn't being above board on this one... so I'm trying to build my position.
How was their invoice inflated $400? What $400 item was on there that was not supposed to be? Were you shown th invoice?
Well, you have the car in your driveway, so what's done is done. I would not give them any PIN. S-Plan comm is not that much. It's a few hundred bucks. Since you never agreed on the S-Plan, or consented to buy based on S-Plan, there is no need to give them a PIN.
I just found out today that the $400 difference is attributable to "Philadelphia Assessment". They claim it is part of the invoice price.
When I look at KBB, Edmunds, and the S-Plan web site, that is not figured into the invoice. So I'm wondering if it truly a dealer invoice cost or not. My gut is saying no.
I was not shown the invoice.... which is why I'm asking questions now, and thinking that my deal was not an S-Plan deal.
Our local dealer is offering $10000 off of MSRP and was wondering if you think there is any more room to negotiate. It seems like there would be by the deals mentioned on here but other say this is a terrific deal. Opinions?
i think the bigger $ discounts are mainly being offered in areas with excess supply, which might explain why some think it's a terrific deal. quick fyi... a local dealer here (houston, tx) currently has an ad in the paper offering $10.5K off msrp. believe it's only on "loaded" models.
Anyone know anything about the "Assessment" cost being a valid invoice item or no?
Regional assessment is a part of the cost of the car and not dealer profit. Sites like Edmunds do not track such fees because they vary from region to region.
If you go to price out a car here on Edmunds, you will see a link to "advertising fees" and their explanation as to what they are, and why they do not track them.
I bought my car at Wellesley Mazda in MA. I didn't aggressively shop competing local dealers. I did get similar quotes on FWD models from two dealers in PA (I travel there regularly, and was initially looking for a FWD which are rare in my area). Wellesley has a couple 2008's left. I ended up leasing an AWD GT with MSRP $38,305. Final price offered was ~$29,900. The lease was the same net total price (assuming a purchase at lease end financed over 24 months) as a purchase financed at ~4%. (36 month lease, 15K miles/yr, 35 total payments of $499.72 including tax, tags, title and gap insurance, 0 down). I think there are still a fair number of AWD GT's around. you should be able to get ~8K off a GT with some options (I think the discounts are less on lower trim levels and fewer options - makes sense since the net markup is lower). Good luck
I have seen a local dealer in PA offering the 08 AWD sport with power driver seat option only for around $24.8, but that does not include the $1000 loyalty discount. $23.8 for that vehicle...good...bad??
I have been shopping around in the Orlando area and the best offer I have gotten is $8K off MSRP. I am waiting for the week of the 25th to the 31st to launch my attack and see if I can match the $10K off deal that some have heard off. These deals are like BIGFOOT.
I'm about to buy a CX-9 touring model. MSRP $36,000 and offered to me at $27,500 plus 0 APR for 60 months. Is that a good deal? it seems like i can negotiate a bit further. Has anyone gotten the 10,000 off MSRP with special financing?
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"document fee=$100 license & title,registration and encumberance fees total $405"
I live in NJ, but am buying the car in PA.
What fees were you all charged for these type of services?
Rob
The tires seem to have flat spots. Has anyone else experienced this and if so what is your suggestion?
Thanks
Also, does anyone know whether Remote Start is factory or dealer installed? I never see it on any of the packages and options and I have looked at a bunch. I was going to use the addition of this option as a negotiation point.
Cheers,
Robb
I have been offered an 08 GT with Moon and Assistance package for 30300 + TTL. I thought this was a great deal until I saw someone had written that the dealer has $7250 to play with on the GTs. Invoice is 36750. Does this mean I should be pushing for a number closer to 29500?
thanks!
MSRP : 37,995 offered price : 26,995
which is $11000 off on MSRP.
Is this the good deal?
I have heard of these type of deals on 2 wheel drive.
Is yours 2wd or AWD?
Also will I still be able to qualify for 0% financing getting this deal? I've not that much experience in this.
Edit: I think I would also qualify for the owner loyalty incentive. Are they still offering that?
and no, you won't be able to get the 0% too. I think you lose the 4250 if you want the financing. chances are your total interest is less than that so you are better taking the cheaper price.
2008 GT FWD
BSM
Moonroof/Bose
Towing Package
GT Assist
Headrest DVD each operating standalone or in sync
Final Price- $31,883 +TTL
I think I did ok. any thoughts? Many thanks to all who posted here
It does give one pause to see some of the deals posted here however. I hope it doesn't freeze me.
$8000 off GT is good and easy to get
$9000 off GT is very good and still not too hard to get
$10000 off GT is excellent and requires a bit more work
$11000 off GT is almost unheard of -- go drive and stop osting
thanks!
$11000 off invoice would be like $14000 off msrp, and that would be totally insane. one only get those kinds of deals for things like H2 Hummers
I'm within $200 of invoice on '08 AWD GT (about $8,500 off MSRP), but that is only accounting for the $4250 rebate.
And it has been a real struggle to get to this price. No chance they will bite on this extra $3K off.
Just bought a 08 GT AWD over the weekend:
sticker price: $40k
options: moonroof, assistance pkg.
purchase price:$30k + TTL
I think there are still a few 08 GT AWD in and around the Boston area though color combination etc. might be more difficult.
On the 09 GT AWDs, most of the quotes that I was getting were around $35.5 to $36 K so I decided to go with the 08s instead.
Should I even bother approaching a dealer for an S-Plan price, or can one do better negotiating on your own? Does anyone know how much commission a dealer gets for an S-Plan sale?
Also, as an S-Plan customer, you are supposed to inform the participating dealer that you are right off the bat, as per the Partner Program rules. Your company, or whoever you are getting the PIN from tells you that.
Feel free to do what you think will give you the best deal. It ultimately depends on what the dealer is willing to do. Why don't you submit an Internet inquiry to a few area dealers and see what you get, and take it from there. That's my advice. You may get a better price then S-Plan that way. Who knows!
Here's the kicker, I'll try to make a long story short. I already bought the car, and thought I was paying $500 under invoice through normal negatiation. Turns out I paid 100 under invoice, because their invoice price was inflated by $400 for some reason and I didn't know it. So there was a quick mention of me being part of the X-plan during our negotiating, but I did not pursue that because I mistakenly thought it was only for Ford vehicles. So we did the deal, I've had the car for 2 weeks, and now the dealer is pestering me for an S-plan PIN. I'm thinking:
1- we never did an S-plan deal. Was never shown an S-plan price, never signed anything for an S-plan deal.
2- I'll be darned if I'm going to give the dealer a PIN for them to make more money on a commission when it appears they boned me on invoice price
So I'm wondering how much of a commission they stand to make on S-plan, and was planning on using that as a bargaining chip to recover the money I thought I was going to save at under invoice. Clear as mud??
Me thinkey that the dealer isn't being above board on this one... so I'm trying to build my position.
Well, you have the car in your driveway, so what's done is done. I would not give them any PIN. S-Plan comm is not that much. It's a few hundred bucks. Since you never agreed on the S-Plan, or consented to buy based on S-Plan, there is no need to give them a PIN.
When I look at KBB, Edmunds, and the S-Plan web site, that is not figured into the invoice. So I'm wondering if it truly a dealer invoice cost or not. My gut is saying no.
I was not shown the invoice.... which is why I'm asking questions now, and thinking that my deal was not an S-Plan deal.
Thoughts?
I bought the Sport, and didn't get that much off MSRP.
Anyone know anything about the "Assessment" cost being a valid invoice item or no?
Regional assessment is a part of the cost of the car and not dealer profit. Sites like Edmunds do not track such fees because they vary from region to region.
If you go to price out a car here on Edmunds, you will see a link to "advertising fees" and their explanation as to what they are, and why they do not track them.
I am in the northeast also, can i ask where you are getting 8k off? i just started shopping also and i'm seeing only 1/2 that amount discounted.
PS- S-Plan is equivalent to invoice.