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Cadillac Escalade



  • Just test drove a '02 escalade. What a ride. Couldn't believe the power I felt
    when I step on the gas. The truck has awesome handling, not a caddy car, ut a
    lot better than the fords and Toyotas that I've driven. The dealer I found is in
    greenwich, CT. The interior is very nice, the sound system I think could still be a
    little better (not enough bass, a different amp would take care of that problem),
    and they should have positioned the steering wheel controls for the radio on the
    outboard part of the wheel, but thats just being picky. The brakes on the new
    trucks are firm with no spongyness. The exhaust system has a very nice mellow
    sound, so no need to change that. I would have bought the truck, but the
    salesman would not give me a figure for my '98 yukon unless I actually signed
    papers to purchase truck (how stupid is he???). Another reason not to buy was
    the salesman believes he should be getting MSRP + some for this vehicle. I'll
    wait until I can find a better deal. Oh yea, the rear parking sensors work great,
    you should never back into anything with the sensors enabled.
  • Does anyone know if the Escalade has the same shape mirror as the one on the Denali? I am specifically interested to find out if the Escalade comes with a passenger side exterior auto-dimming mirror. The Denali comes with and interior and driver side ext. auto dimming mirror and I wanted to know if it might be possible to upgrade the passenger side to the mirror on the Escalade.
  • To answer your main question, the passenger side exterior mirror on the Escalade is not auto-dimming. The reasoning behind that, I think, is the fact that the passenger side mirror on every vehicle, so far as I know, is a "wide-angle" (if that's the correct term) type that reduces the apparent size of other cars appearing in it, and thus reduces the size of the headlights --- and thus the glare --- of those other cars, or at least that was how I had it figured. Wiser heads please correct me.
  • jgts1jgts1 Posts: 32
    I had a friend call one his friends- who works at a large Caddy dealer....they were taking a grand off MSRP on the 02 Escalade. But the lease really is something to be desired.

    36months/12k year/ tax and tags up front/ $864 per month!!! The residual isn't very good- 53%.

    I was considering a Land Cruiser also- really like the Caddy, but can get a LC for like $100 plus less dollars a month (the MSRP is also like $5k ubove the Caddy).
  • Saw it and sat in it at the auto show. Very Cheesie; from the steering column mounted gear shifter to the faux wood covering most plastic surfaces. What a pathetic attempt at an SUV. It looks like they took engineers off the Chevy Cavalier and said "design an SUV."

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  • I'm glad to see that Cadillac and GMC are now building much better quality SUVs than Japan. I had a Land Cruiser for 4 years, and it was tough, but the interior just felt cheap. I guess that's why Land Cruiser sales have started to drop off. I'm happy to be the new owner of a 2002 Escalade with the most powerful engine in the world and the most luxurious ride!
  • Wait a minute, a Top Fueler make 5000 HP+, & the Space Shuttle main rocket boosters are pretty strong as well! The Escalade's 345 HP, 6.0 engine is excellent, but don't think you are invincible. Most "Sports Sedans", & many SUVs will still be quicker, & faster. The 6.0 is nice though, it really scoots, even in my Denali XL. 25 additional HP can't hurt.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    You are clearly in the vast minority as this truck is getting great reviews everywhere. You may not like the styling, but that's a personal thing. I personally like the Denali styling better.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Take em with a grain of salt. Don't forget most of the people who do the reviews have the cars given to them by the manufacturer for the explicit purpose of writing a review. Also the reviewer has anywhere from 6hrs to a week at most with the car. I like to take real owner's comments on a vehicle rather than some reviewer who doesn't live with the car day in and day out. Not saying anything good or bad about the escalade, just some comments on reviews in general.

  • I need to rephrase. The most powerful engine in a production model SUV. I like the Denali also. I would prefer either the Denali XL or Escalade over any other production SUV, especially the Land Cruiser which I had for so long. I think it will be hard for me to shake the enthusiasm I have for the Escalade. I just love the ride too much.
  • Does anyone know a dealer near the Northeast coast that's willing to deal with a AM employee discount. I'm near NEW YORK CITY and these dealers around hear don't want to place orders for employees and don't want to sell for less than list price. Imagine that. If anyone knows of a dealer let me know. I'm willing to travel as far as N. Carolina. Thanks for your help.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    What company is that? I may be able to hook you up with a salesman @ manfredi Cadillac in SI. E-mail me

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I spoke with a good friend of mine who is a car dealer. He suggested you contact:

    Paul Conte Caddy/GMC/Chevy
    salesman: Tom Mizerak
    Phone: 516-623-0003
    The guy I know who sent me to this dealer is Pete Wiehl from Manfredi Used Cars in SI.

  • Sorry people, I meant a "GM" Employee discount
  • I no sooner started asking around and found a 2002 Escalade in Winston Salem. A neighbor and I were both looking and each bought from the same dealer. The only two they had. I know they are expecting more in a couple of weeks.

    Now for the scoup! What a beautiful SUV, both inside and out. I've test driven most of the comparable SUV's and I'm glad I waited for the 2002 Escalade. I feel very comfortable driving this vehicle. I don't feel like I'm driving a truck. It handles easy, has great pick-up and stops nicely and without pitching. This SUV is loaded with tons of nice features. The only options are color and sunroof. Back-up sensors; On-Star System; Large Side Mirrors that fold, heat, and tilt down for curb view when in reverse; Heated leather front and 2nd row seats; 6 CD changer with 11 Bose speakers; Rear controls for Sound system and Temperature, Steering wheel mounted controls are just a few of the many bells and whistles. It's also the only SUV with Stabiltrac (spelling?). The only negative I've found so far is it's a little cumbersome to climb into the third row seats and not much leg room. Not a problem for me since my 2 dogs don't sit much anyway. My neighbor bought the Sand color and I bought Red. Both colors are beautiful and I would have been happy with either. Highly recommend that anyone looking for a classy SUV give the 2002 Escalade a try before making a decision.
  • I looked at the vehicle yesterday and was quite impressed. Does anyone know if they are being discounted from MSRP? My local dealership has two--black and silver sand.
  • I shopped about 15 dealers and none would discount off MSRP. If you can get one without waiting that would be good. Most people are waiting 4-6 weeks for theirs to arrive.
  • 2002 Escalade looks nice. I saw one this past weekend that was silversand exterior. It was driven around with the dealer invoice on the side of the window.

    I easily recognize the beast in all that traffic without looking at the front facia. There is a major difference between the Escalade and the Tahoo and Yukon series.

    I wonder how many Escalades will sell by the end of this year. Does anyone think it will top off the Navigator in sales?
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    While the Cadillac Escalade is the only SUV out there on the market with "Stabillitrak", it is not the only SUV out there with a stability control system. MB beat everyone to it with this important safety feature in 1998, when it equipped its M-class with ESP (electronic stability programme) as standard equipment; in fact, MB equipped every single one of its MY1999 vehicles with ESP as standard equipment. BMW was the next to provide it on their '00 X5 SAV (sic) in late 1999.

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  • That may be true but the ML and the X5 are not in the same league with the Escalade. Most people consider the ML and X5 as midsize or crossover SUVs while the Escalade is a full size beast.

    Now did Lexus had stability control on the their LX 470 in '98?
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    if you ask the Excursion/suburban/yukon xl guys. I only have a measly trooper so I guess I shouldn't be talking. I believe the LC/LX470 do have Traction Control now though, but I could be wrong, and I know the Sequioa does.

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    sweetjeldorado- I sense in your comment (and from others on this forum), that if it's not "full-size," it's not as good—or as you you say—in the same league—as the Escalade?

    Paisan is right. People who own (larger still) Suburbans, Yukon XLs, and Excursions feel the same way towards the Escalade, and other Expedition-sized vehicles. Do I agree with them. No. I think they're nuts, as I do for many people who buy these huge "beasts" (your word, not mine).

    If you "need" (not want, but NEED) a large full-size SUV, then by all means, get one. However, most people can get all the luxury and SUV all-weather capability in many mid-size (or smaller) SUVs. Personally I'd much rather have the smaller ML or an X5, to the much larger Escalade.

  • My friend, you need not assume and ask me directly if Escalade is better than the ML and X5. Reread my post and know what I meant.

    Where did I said that the Escalade was better than the Mercedes and BMW? The Escalade is for a different buyer while the Mercedes and BMW is for another different type of buyer. The Escalade is for the type of crowd that wants plushness with ride comfort with a lot of cargo room while the Mercedes and BMW is for the crowd that wants a crossover vehicle that handles like a car rather than a completely truck derivative of a truck. Until Cadillac produce a similar SUV to them or BMW and Mercedes built a product similar to the Escalade, full size, they don't compare and anyone on here know good well they don't.

    "Personally I'd much rather have the smaller ML or an X5, to the much larger Escalade."

    Well, get one then. I would rather be seen in the Escalade rather than the ugly Isuzi Trooper and the Subaru Wagon.

    "Paisan is right. People who own (larger still) Suburbans, Yukon XLs, and Excursions feel the same way towards the Escalade, and other Expedition-sized vehicles. Do I agree with them. No. I think they're nuts, as I do for many people who buy these huge "beasts" (your word, not mine)."

    To each their own.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Did I say that your Escalade is ugly? Nope, Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder. You need not call my ugly Isuzu Trooper (and please spell it correctly when ditching on it)!

    For one thing, I'm glad that Caddy finally caught up to the Trooper as far as features. We've had Power folding mirrors since 1998!!!!! Not to mention I can almost get 2 fully loaded Troopers with a far superior AWD system (AWD, 2wd, 4wd lo) than the Escalade for about the price of 1 Escalade...

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    I reread your post, and (reading between the lines) it still comes across as bigger is better. Obviously Paisan picked up on that too.

    I could care less what others "see me drive." I don't need a $50K+ SUV to make me feel good.

  • jgts1jgts1 Posts: 32
    I like Isuzus, big fan of the Vehicross....but take a drive in a $50k SUV- like a 4.4 X5 and you will want to launch that Trooper off a cliff.....I am replacing a 98 4Runner LTD soon, after I drove the V8 X5 when it first dropped- I didn't want to get back into the Toyota.

    Too many fun toys out there.

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  • JG...You should consider the Escalade, at least to the extent of test driving it. For many of the buyers in the $45K+ price range, you will find the Escalade rides very nicely and exudes luxury in every detail. It's not just size that matters, but the comfort and ride characteristics as well. The only true way to measure those ride characteristics is to drive it for yourself.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Saw my first Escalade today in downtown Toronto. It was getting a lot of looks. It had dealer plates on it so there are likely some for sale around the GTA now. My local dealer still has none.
  • jgmilbergjgmilberg Posts: 872
    I have heard in certain circles, mainly car mags, that when GM kills Oldsmobile the Bravada will become a Caddy. I think if they do it GM will be better placed to compete with the MB M-Class, and Isuzu Troopers. The Bravada comes with Smart Trac, a Stabilitrac based system, so at least it already has that going for it. I hope if it does happen that they do more than just change the badges. It should get a new nose at least, more in line with the "new" Caddy shape. The Escalade front end design is directly pulled form the new DeVille, and a shorter version of the Escalade nose would look really nice on the front of the soon to be gone Bravada. With the extended versions from Chevy and GMC it will be possible to have a 3rd row seat and respectable cargo area in it. Anyone else heard of this?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    It's well known that Caddy is working on a mid-size cross-over SUV for some time. If fact, I believe the concept Visiaon(sp?) is supposed to be very close to the actual vehicle.

    As for the Bravada eventually becoming a Caddy, I haven't heard anything to that effect. Although, it wouldn't surprise me if it did.

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