Subaru Forester (up to 2005)

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  • nygregnygreg Member Posts: 1,936
    correctly, this is a major winner for Subaru and will increase sales at "Subaru deprived" markets.

    Greg
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Geez, if we waited a few months, this car could have taken the place of my wife's Forester and my WRX. Of course, maybe then we would be fighting over the keys....

    I think this will be a very popular vehicle. Will be interesting to read reviews and road tests in the various car mags.

    Craig
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Most popular Forester 2.5T mods to come -- upgrade engine components to STi! ;-)

    Ken
  • maverick1017maverick1017 Member Posts: 212
    I recently noticed whirrling noises comming from the rear section of my 98L. I am thinking wheel bearing or CV joint. Any comments or additional diagosis? Can I do the bearings myself? or do I have to bring it in?

    Thanks
    Mike W.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I bet it helps Subaru sales in the snow belt. I can just see lots of these in SoCal and Florida. AWD becomes a performance feature, not just something for snowy climates.

    Ken: imagine hooking up a front LSD and DCCD to that? Or a 6 speed? Mmmm...

    I'm telling you, it'll dominate the segment in terms of performance.

    Mike: bearings. Take it in soon, you still under the powertrain warranty? They usually cover it.

    -juice
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    juice,

    Stop! You're making it painful for me to drive Raven! ;-)

    Ken
  • j0elboyj0elboy Member Posts: 32
    I just got a WRX SW! Not even 500 miles!!! and, now I want to go back to the Forester, ah mama-mia

    J0elboy
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We've been tellin' people to wait, not our fault! :-)

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    If you wait infinitely long, you will have an infinitely powerful vehicle. :)

    -mike
  • j0elboyj0elboy Member Posts: 32
    juice:

    There's much, much to really like with the WRX/SW..and it looks so good in silver. I can live with it!

    j0elboy
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    ...are showing off that butt-ugly yellow Chevy Monte Carlo on their homepage as a tribute to the Chicago Auto Show? There's a reason rednecks in North Carolina buy this car...Earnhardt. It has NOTHING to do with looks.

    [burnsmr4 turns and barfs after seeing the photo again.]

    Later,
    burnsmr4
  • allhorizonallhorizon Member Posts: 483
    AVCS and low end torque, nice.

    If you haven't seen it, there is also a press release at http://media.subaru.com/

    - D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    paisan is right in that there is a major arms race going on right now. Nissan started it, but everyone is joining in.

    I skipped over the Monte Carlo SS because that setup has been around in clones of that car for ages anyway, it's nothing new.

    Nothing new in the press release, that PDF has much more info.

    -juice
  • allhorizonallhorizon Member Posts: 483
    You’re right, just a confirmation, nothing beyond the .pdf in the press release. It is still incomplete though, as the link to pictures has not been put in, yet.

    Not sure I like the black upholstery for hot and sunny climates – would have to see it in person. I like sunroofs better than moonroofs, so nothing has changed there: looks like I will need after-market leather and sunroof (for the manual transmission). I also could have done without the body-colored side cladding.

    - D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Doubt they'll do a base model turbo. Look how long it's taking for the H6 to trickle down into Outbacks with out leather. Canada just got it, we still haven't!

    -juice
  • allhorizonallhorizon Member Posts: 483
    By the way, autoweek just shows the .pdf file from the subaru media site (look at the Forester Product Info link, in there).

    What do you mean by base model?

    If I understand correctly, the pemium package (leather and moonroof) is only available with auto transmission. So again, the manual doesn't get leather.

    - D
  • nicdmxnicdmx Member Posts: 35
    I was previously looking at an Infiniti G35 Sedan but was wanting something a little more conducive to outdoor activities and camping. This looks like it might be just the alternative i was looking for (all while saving a big chunk of cash). Guess I will have to wait a little longer to buy a car than I hoped but oh well.

    Does anyone have any idea about when you will be able to buy one of these. I saw the subaru press release said this summer.....but when do you supposed that is...June, July, August?
  • 03xngreen03xngreen Member Posts: 36
    Sorry for posting something so mundane in comparison to the turbo news, but can anybody recommend a source for Forester seat covers? My wife wants to protect the seats but nothing at the local stores like Target and Pep Boys seems to fit.
  • gvmelbrtygvmelbrty Member Posts: 64
    Probably not what you're looking for because of the price ;), but these are very nice:

    100% pure Australian Merino wool sheepskin seat covers, custom made to fit the Forester, side airbag safe and available in eight colors: http://sheepskinexpress.com/subaru.htm. Merino wool is amazing, keeps you warm in the winter, yet natural breathability keeps you cool in the summer.

    But, if you've got the heated seats, I wonder if you could feel the heat through all that sheep fur?

    -tom
  • sfdriversfdriver Member Posts: 35
    These ones are modified for Side Airbags, tho. I'm not sure if the ones from Targets are or not. If they're not, do they just prevent the side airbags from deploying?

    It was nice of Subaru to make side airbags standard for all the 03 Forester trims.
  • 03xngreen03xngreen Member Posts: 36
    Ah, there you go, another blunder prevented by an Internet forum. Thanks for pointing out the airbag. I thought that was in the pillar next to the seat, not IN the seat. (Guess it wouldn’t hurt to read the manual…). Wonder what would happen if you cover it and it deploys. Maybe the seat would explode, or the bag would come out the front of the seat and shoot you through the windshield (8’0.

    Sheepskins are nice. Had ‘em in a Karmen Ghia years ago. The wife was thinking more along the lines of fabric, but they could be a possibility. Thanks.
  • xccoachlouxccoachlou Member Posts: 245
    I'm not really anal-retentive. Or is that anal retentive? Do you spell it with or without the hyphen? Now I may never get to sleep... :)

    Anyway, in all it's glory, Lou's Review of a Review. :)

    - Lou
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Do you spell it with or without the hyphen?

    I think it's best for you to try spelling it offline - or is it off-line? That's one of those borderline words I'd rather not have to contend with.

    tidester, host
  • rochcomrochcom Member Posts: 247
    I have been using Scotchguard on car seats for years. IF applied carefuly, it does a good job of protecting them from spills and messes. However, it does not do much for abrasion and needs to be re-applied periodically. It is working well on my Forester after 5 years.

    It would seem that if you did buy seat covers that did not provide for the airbags, that you could simply cut out the area over the airbag opening. BUT, I would be concerned about a compromise to safety.
  • tkevinblanctkevinblanc Member Posts: 356
    Eventually it'll be analretentive and offline, so just go with it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    By "base" I meant unpainted cladding, steel wheels, basically an X with a turbo.

    I hope June but it's probably not even determined yet. It's a new engine so I wouldn't want them to rush, either.

    Lou: remind me to never get on your bad side. :o)

    -juice
  • oregonboyoregonboy Member Posts: 1,650
    I too would like to see a lower-cost, "basic" XT, rather than the XS-Premium-T that Subaru has chosen to market. Given the comprehensive features packaged in the Forester X, I would think it would sell quite well. (Maybe they could add just the rear disks... but they should make that standard across the line anyway)

    Regarding Lou's review of Heraud's review: I vowed to quit reading Heraud sum time back due to his obvious errors, pretentious writing style, and misuse of the language. I found his articles to be more aggravating than informative.

    -james
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I agree about the discs - the Outback Sport get rear discs standard for 2004, so keep up that trend.

    Maybe they could add the load-leveling suspension and beef up the tow ratings, if only so Bob stops asking for that stuff. ;-)

    But seriously, I do see the Forester turbo going in two distinct directions. How 'bout a Forester Sport, a la Baja Sport, slightly decontented but at a lower price.

    I doubt it, though, I bet the turbo sells quite well at the more profitable prices they'll offer now.

    -juice
  • perezc1perezc1 Member Posts: 11
    I have a 1999 Forester with the OEM in-dash (1 disc) CD player, purchased and installed in Fall 2001. Yesterday, after a visit to the carwash it just stopped working - no power, nothing, disc still inside. Is there a dedicated fuse for this (all other electronics seem fine)? No listing in the manual's fuse diagram map. Advice?
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    There are two fuse boxes. One in the engine bay and the other behind the coin tray.
    Check fuse#9 behind the coin tray.
    If all fuses are fine, then I guess the fuse within the unit is blown.

    -Dave
  • taft4taft4 Member Posts: 57
    This from today's Chicago Tribune: "Subaru plans to sell 36,000 copies of a new model blending the features of a minivan and sport-utility vehicle in 2005, its first year in the market. The seven-seat crossover is scheduled to go on sale in July or August 2005 and be built at the company's plant in Lafayette, Indiana. It will join the Legacy, Forester and Impreza in the Subaru lineup."
  • mjsnd80mjsnd80 Member Posts: 48
    In the last few days, somebody posted a note about running the engine to redline every tank of gas to cut carbon deposits.

    I have a new XS 5-speed, and don't do this. Should I? Can somebody explain the benefits?

    Thank you
  • sfdriversfdriver Member Posts: 35
    This
    site's got a couple of interior pictures of the 2.5 XT.
      The automatic
    shifter is similar to the 03 Foresters'.  Stereo is different  The
    black leather looks really nice!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Kudos to Dave, could he have been any more specific? :-)

    taft: that's the SUW that was originally going to share a GM chassis. Now it looks like it'll be pure Subaru, thank goodness. I may need the space so it might be my next car.

    As for the redline thing, it's something that is recommended by the folks at Miata.net, though it applies to any car. Supposedly the revs keep carbon deposits from forming, which in theory would increase effective compression and cause pinging.

    That is a cool looking stereo, but it looks like the cassette is gone? I agree about the leather looking nice.

    -juice
  • nicdmxnicdmx Member Posts: 35
    wow i am super impressed by those interior pics. I think my mind is made up.....I will be choosing the 2.5 XT over the Infiniti G35. The pictures of the interior are really the nail in the coffin. Looks very nice!

    I think I saw on another site that the 2003 models were released in May 2002....so I wonder if we could be seeing 2004 models in late May.
  • rochcomrochcom Member Posts: 247
    I am rather suspicious of the idea of preventing carbon deposits by running the engine to redline. For most modern engines, carbon deposits are not a problem. Modern detergents added to oil and fuel deal with them fairly well. Only poorly designed engines and vehicles that are never run long enough to thorougly warm up would seem to be a danger.

    When the engine on one of my former cars was torn apart at 125,000 miles because of a timing chain failure, there was no sign of any carbon. The engine had been run on regular 10W30 oil and regular gas throughout its life. I would think that more engine damage would be caused by redlining than by carbon. Driving at highway speeds periodically for 15 minutes or more, depending on temperature, should do just as well.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    The interior is pretty sharp. My wife has a silver XS with the gray leather interior. With the chrome/silver accents and the black dash top, it's a tastefully cool and modern look. I like it a lot.

    I really like that new radio in the XT......

    Craig
  • joseph50joseph50 Member Posts: 235
    Yes, all looks OK.
    But I wouldn't swap the interior for my 2001S that sports a butter-smooth steering wheel leather that a car mag reviewer likened to the quality found on a Rolls Royse.
    I never needed more than 165 hp. (Cheers to those who think they do.)
    The newer front grill is still upsidedown, IMHO, stylewise.
    On redlining: I never did it on cars I drove for many years, and so feel no need to do it now.
  • taft4taft4 Member Posts: 57
    Juice:

    Today's Chicago Tribune had a large special section devoted to the auto show which is in town. As part of that report they listed the MSRP of all the new cars which really covered a broad list. What surprised me as I looked, out of curiousity, for Subaru was that it was placed under the general heading of GM cars, rather then standing by itself. I know that GM has about a 20% interest in Subaru, but I didn't consider them part of GM as I would Volvo which is an integral part of Ford.

    One of the main stories was about a new small Chevrolet (at about $10,000) being introduced to the U.S. by GM which is to be made by the old Daewoo company in Korea.
  • photo2002photo2002 Member Posts: 1
    Hi all. My first post here, looks like a great forum!
    I have a 2000 Forester S. I recently purchased it at the end of a lease. The one thing I don't have in it that I think is a good idea, is the cabin air filter. The only problem is, none of the dealers in my area has ever installed one. The repair shop manager at my dealer had no idea how to install one. He found out that a section under the dash has to be cut out in order to install the filter. But he also said that if it isn't cut out perfectly, it will mean replacing the whole underside of the dash?? He did not instill me with confidence.
    From anyone who has done this installation, or had it done, how difficult is it to do a good job? Looking for advice here. Unfortunately I am unable to do the job myself.
    Thanks!
    photo2002
  • zigzag7239zigzag7239 Member Posts: 40
    Lou - it appears clear to me that Heraud reviewed a 2002 model and mistakenly labeled it a 2003. There's really no other explanation for it - no one could mistake the 2002 interior for the 2003, and there's no other reason for him to mistake an "LS" for an "XS".

    I only disagree with you on one point - I don't think he is negative about the boxer engine. He calls it simple, efficient, reliable - not exciting, but not bad.
  • rsunicorsunico Member Posts: 82
    Does anyone know what the MSRP shall be on the XT? I've forgotten about getting the extended warranty and keeping my 01 :)

    I liked the look of the Turbo Forester when I was in Hong Kong in November.. can't wait to drive one.. though the US one is more potent that those in SE Asia..
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Welcome aboard! Yes, this is a great place with great people whom I know will be more than happy help out if they can.

    tidester, host
  • xccoachlouxccoachlou Member Posts: 245
    I belive that review is most applicable to a 2002 model.

    Yes, the boxer is simple, efficient and reliable. But what image does an original VW Beetle conjure in your mind? I have an image of a small, noisy car with a heater slightly less powerful than an old asthmatic woman breathing on your ankles. :)

    Thanks for reading the web page.

    - Lou
  • gened1gened1 Member Posts: 256
    I am not sure what point you are trying to make. The current Forester and the XT coming out soon is not comparble to old vs new Beetle.
    I will state here what I stated on the NASIOC board to wit:
    "I understand all the excitement re the Forester turbo. I have had several turbo cars and one supercharged car and all required premium gas. They also required a new way of thinking about turbo motor longevity. Especially the coking problem. I still remain enamoured with forced induction systems but I relish the simplicity of the normally aspirated boxer engine and the regular gas prices that go along with it."
    Gene
  • lakepoplakepop Member Posts: 221
     
      Those instructions are easy IF you have the system installed. I'll have to check mine ...but I didn't think those clips/cover were there unless they were installed.
      I also thought the installation required some CUTTING to install that cover and allow the actual filters to be installed.
      This is just a comment because I am NOT versed in this system and didn't think I had the cover/mounting area in my Forester...I did not order it!
  • lfdallfdal Member Posts: 679
    Hello All,
    Looking for some transmission advice.
    I just had the transmission recall done on my 03 last night. Got it home, only a 6 mile drive and about 20 degrees out, so I doubt the fluid was really warmed up, but the fluid was up to the low hot mark. I also noticed the fluid was bubbly. Usually you don't want to see air bubbles in your transmission fluid. Was wondering if this is normal for this transmission? Also, they must have used a gallon of gasket goop - there must be an inch (and I'm not exagerating) of overhang around the front lip of the pan. Can't wait to get under there this weekend and see what the rest of it looks like. Hope it warms up to at least 20. I'm too old to be crawling around under cars in the wintertime.
    Regarding red lines my own personal opinion is don't go there unless you have to. However I assume this engine has a rev limiter to prevent anything too catastrophic from happening. I prefer good gas, an occasional bottle of injector/fuel system cleaner, good oil changed often and highway time (at least a half hour continuous) once a week if I can get it.
    Also, thanks to whoever posted info on the Fujimoto pan drain valve. I ordered one Monday and hope to put it on this weekend, weather permitting.
    Guess I'll be getting one for my wife's Outback, just so I can drain the extra dealer oil. I'll stand by 30+ years of driving/maintenance/repair experience that has shown there's a reason for those marks they put on dipsticks.
    As much as I'd like a turbo, thay can be a lot of headaches. I'll wait for the 2nd or 3rd model year before I leap on one.
    One last thing - Quaker State is willing to provide a 10yr/250000 mile warranty on internally lubricated parts. I checked into it, registered for the plan and received a warranty certificate. It seems on the level. Their oils meet all the specs, and they do make a full syntheic as well. The only requirement is to save all your slips if you do your own changes. I've used Quaker State for years and years and never had a problem. Another 0.02.
    Talk about long winded......
    Larry
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Subaru has been doing turbos for years. Even though the 2.5l turbos are new, the technology has been in the FHI group since the 80s. (maybe even the 70s)

    -mike
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