I have a few types of drain clearers. the saw tooth, and ones with a pill shaped end that is sort of like velcro. The biggest issues with the saw one was getting it through the grate (and getting the clog back out)
my wife should be bald by now given the amounts of hair I pull out. First time I did the new house shower (after about 6 months it was already running slow) I tried that and it was tedious. Finally occurred to me that the drain cover had screw heads. 2 Philips later, and that came right off, and pulled a hair clog the size of a chipmunk with it (hair entangled in it). After that, cleaning out the drain pipe to look like new was a dream!
———————————————— DUH.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I found a hair gadget at one of the big box places that is plastic with grabers that look like saw teeth to grab the hair. About 30 inches long and very flexible. Works great and it costs less than what you got ripped off for.
jmonroe
I have those at home and was gonna buy them for here but I was afraid they weren’t long enough.
———————————————— Pop rivet or duct tape 2 of them together.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I need to unclog the show drain from time to time, but I always use mechanical means. My septic system is fairly intolerant to harsh chemicals, so I'd prefer to keep them out as much as possible.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
In case anyone wants to know, I ended up selling the S4 for $20,500 cash last November. 21 year old guy from up in LA area, man, I wish when I was 21 I had a car as nice as my S4 still was. They might be outnumbered, but there are still young people out there that like fine automobiles.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
In case anyone wants to know, I ended up selling the S4 for $20,500 cash last November. 21 year old guy from up in LA area, man, I wish when I was 21 I had a car as nice as my S4 still was. They might be outnumbered, but there are still young people out there that like fine automobiles.
Sounds like a good deal for both of you. With the work you put into it, it was definitely worth that much, but the black mark on its vehicle history made it such that it wasn't your traditional sale (like a trade-in, etc.).
You should swing by more often! I mean, we're just hearing about this now, and it's already been gone for 6+ months?!
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
Las Vegas vacation: After amassing a small fortune through my one vice (are cars a vice?) the first three days of our visit we took a break and rented a Camry to drive to Hoover Dam. Recommend visiting the dam, quite an achievement and history. Wonderful dry heat of 96-102 degrees, drink plenty of water! The Camry? Not sure what I can add, as someone mentioned earlier, surprisingly peppy when I dropped the hammer with all the strange and wonderful sounds of gas engine and electric motor doing their dance of joy. Only thing that really registered with me was that the center HVAC vents were mounted too low.
Exhausted from the dam trip, we took a day off from demon gambling to allow the casinos to replenish their cash due to the beating we exerted on their reserves prior. We relaxed by pool/hot tub, but due to thunder/lightning the pools were emptied of people, and we were advised to take cover. So, we found a large, air cooled cabana with comfy couches and a "Reserved" sign (coulda been for us, I didn't see a name...) and read and napped. Skies cleared and back to splashing.
The next day we resumed our quest to enhance our retirement accounts at the expense of the big, ugly corporations, alas the small fortune became valet tip money. They must have studied the videotape and changed their strategy to hoover (vacuum, not dam) cash directly from my pockets. What a surprise, yet no lesson learned. Yup, I'm wicked smart.
And, unfortunately, 80-year-old Rod Stewart (the raison d'etre for this trip) had to cancel shows due to reported strep throat, ticket price refunded. And, yes, lost at the tables. I'm an old dog.
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Even if you don’t gamble LV will drain you so fast…..
I couldn’t believe my expenses after being there nearly a week for work. The tips and stupid cost for anything at the hotels.
A few of us had “lunch” by the pool the afternoon we finished our booth setup. My boss disappears and I got stuck with the bill. It was over $400 for 3 of us.
When I submitted my expenses I made sure to remind him that he was at this lunch. He yeah I remember I made sure you paid it so that my boss didn’t question it!
A few of us had “lunch” by the pool the afternoon we finished our booth setup. My boss disappears and I got stuck with the bill. It was over $400 for 3 of us.
When I submitted my expenses I made sure to remind him that he was at this lunch. He yeah I remember I made sure you paid it so that my boss didn’t question it!
Heh. Reminds me of my job in the late ‘80. I worked for the Director of Finance, one of 5 direct reports to the big boss. The tradition was for all 20 or so people who worked in his division to get taken out to a fairly boozy lunch at a nice resto a week or so before Christmas, after which those who were so inclined carried on the boozing at some nearby bar. The lunch and booze at the resto was all picked up by the boss, or so tradition claimed.
I enjoyed that event the first couple of years I was there, but was taken aback in year 3 or 4 when the festivities at the resto were winding down and the boss got up to leave, telling me to take care of the cheque. It was a big number as I recall. I put it on my CC and filled out an expense report the following week for him, where I learned the other part of the story. We had gotten a new big boss 18 months earlier who quickly became disliked by most everyone but especially his direct reports like my boss. Turned out he clamped down on their expense reports quite a bit, maybe justifiably but who knows. So my boss knew he could no longer claim the Christmas lunch for the business unit on his expenses. Since he approved my claim and only the processing clerk who also worked for him would see it, I got anointed. I didn’t like it but what could I do? Thankfully nothing blew up..
I had an interesting experience yesterday. The Michelin tires that I ordered would not seat on the wheel rim enough for the tire to be filled with air. I was asked to come into the shop so I could see what was happening. The tires were the correct size 245/40/19. Thankfully they had an alternative about the same price. Pirelli P Zero AS plus 3, which were highly rated by Tire Rack. So far, so good. Quiet, smooth, supple ride and direct handling. Not great pics, sorry for the rear view. Notice the ventilated rear rotors
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I had an interesting experience yesterday. The Michelin tires that I ordered would not seat on the wheel rim enough for the tire to be filled with air. I was asked to come into the shop so I could see what was happening. The tires were the correct size 245/40/19. Thankfully they had an alternative about the same price. Pirelli P Zero AS plus 3, which were highly rated by Tire Rack. So far, so good. Quiet, smooth, supple ride and direct handling. Not great pics, sorry for the rear view. Notice the ventilated rear rotors
That’s odd, has that ever happened to you before?
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
On a similar topic, I took the Explorer in for service today, oil change and tire rotation. Had a coupon for $10 off on 'The Works'. Took them a while, way past my appointment time to get to it. Once they bought it in, a guy came out, called my name and showed me engine and cabin air filters that were pretty dirty. Were they actually mine, who knows? $110 to replace them both. Since I was there, I said to replace them. Also, they tested the battery. I had just about enough points to cover everything. Usually, I replace the filters myself. Ended up owning about $15 but the same guy who showed me the filters pointed out an additional online $20 rebate. Driving home, I couldn't believe how much smoother and quieter it ran, so much so that I missed the first and second turns to get back home.
@sda, It looks like those tires are the rim protector design which is a good tire feature.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
I had a little bit of excitement last week. I was woken by the town police because a white Nissan Frontier had failed to make the turn and flew off into several large trees on my lawn, knocking one over and damaging the second. He ended up hung up in the guy wires of the telephone pole.
I finally got the police report and they hit him up for DWI, DWI over .08%, aggravated unlicensed operation, no insurance, open container and failure to keep right. The no insurance and the fact that he was an undocumented migrant means I’ll be doing my own clean up work and paying for any replacement trees. I suspect he won’t even show up for court so small claims is out. I suppose I could file a claim with my homeowners insurance and then see it go up by double the payout.
Sometimes it doesn’t pay to get out of bed.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I had a little bit of excitement last week. I was woken by the town police because a white Nissan Frontier had failed to make the turn and flew off into several large trees on my lawn, knocking one over and damaging the second. He ended up hung up in the guy wires of the telephone pole.
I finally got the police report and they hit him up for DWI, DWI over .08%, aggravated unlicensed operation, no insurance, open container and failure to keep right. The no insurance and the fact that he was an undocumented migrant means I’ll be doing my own clean up work and paying for any replacement trees. I suspect he won’t even show up for court so small claims is out. I suppose I could file a claim with my homeowners insurance and then see it go up by double the payout.
Sometimes it doesn’t pay to get out of bed.
Amen. Grrr
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
On a similar topic, I took the Explorer in for service today, oil change and tire rotation. Had a coupon for $10 off on 'The Works'. Took them a while, way past my appointment time to get to it. Once they bought it in, a guy came out, called my name and showed me engine and cabin air filters that were pretty dirty. Were they actually mine, who knows? $110 to replace them both. Since I was there, I said to replace them. Also, they tested the battery. I had just about enough points to cover everything. Usually, I replace the filters myself. Ended up owning about $15 but the same guy who showed me the filters pointed out an additional online $20 rebate. Driving home, I couldn't believe how much smoother and quieter it ran, so much so that I missed the first and second turns to get back home.
@sda, It looks like those tires are the rim protector design which is a good tire feature.
On a similar topic, I took the Explorer in for service today, oil change and tire rotation. Had a coupon for $10 off on 'The Works'. Took them a while, way past my appointment time to get to it. Once they bought it in, a guy came out, called my name and showed me engine and cabin air filters that were pretty dirty. Were they actually mine, who knows? $110 to replace them both. Since I was there, I said to replace them. Also, they tested the battery. I had just about enough points to cover everything. Usually, I replace the filters myself. Ended up owning about $15 but the same guy who showed me the filters pointed out an additional online $20 rebate. Driving home, I couldn't believe how much smoother and quieter it ran, so much so that I missed the first and second turns to get back home.
@sda, It looks like those tires are the rim protector design which is a good tire feature.
Absolutely. The Michelins also had a rim protector. I believe it was thicker, or was stiffer that prevented it from seating on the rim.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
@oldfarmer50 We had that happen on our ranch a few times in the years we lived there. This was back in the 1980s. Oddly, I never once saw a person, but twice we saw the mangled carnage of the vehicle, and once the person was able to drive all the way through our field, opened the gate (and left it open), and drove away.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
@oldfarmer50 We had that happen on our ranch a few times in the years we lived there. This was back in the 1980s. Oddly, I never once saw a person, but twice we saw the mangled carnage of the vehicle, and once the person was able to drive all the way through our field, opened the gate (and left it open), and drove away.
I should be used to it by now. We’ve had a motorcycle fly off the turn and land in the driveway. We’ve had a kid transporting for a car dealer take down a half dozen trees adjacent to the current ones when they were all a lot smaller (I had finally gotten around to planting some shrubs in the gap the week before this happened). I’ve lost count of the mailboxes knocked down or cars that slid off the road.
I’m just getting too old for this stuff. Maybe I should build tank traps by the road. 🤣
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And undocumented means the courts can’t track him nor garnish wages. I believe that was his point since the statement was tied to not taking it to court.
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Unlicensed drivers aren't exclusive to those who have issues with immigration status and lets not even talk about how many people of all citizenship stautus work under the table to avoid liens,judgments, wage garnishment, and alimony or child support. I can tell you who where I see the heaviest concentration though.
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@penfan83, You didn't name one good thing anf you can't think that the person that caused damage to oldfarmer50's property would care about any of those legal issues you detailed. You can't get blood from a stone is an appropriate expression.
2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
@oldfarmer50, it could have been worse. They could have decided they needed a replacement vehicle from the nearest opportunity.
That happened to my parents' neighbors, a couple decades ago. They had bought a base model GMC Sierra with a long bed as a "farm truck," and almost never drove it. Apparently, they left the keys in the ignition. Someone escaped from the nearby jail and I guess it was the first car with keys in it they found. They would have tried several along the way, including my dad's New Beetle, which was parked outside and locked.
@oldfarmer50 said:
I had a little bit of excitement last week. I was woken by the town police because a white Nissan Frontier had failed to make the turn and flew off into several large trees on my lawn, knocking one over and damaging the second. He ended up hung up in the guy wires of the telephone pole.
I finally got the police report and they hit him up for DWI, DWI over .08%, aggravated unlicensed operation, no insurance, open container and failure to keep right. The no insurance and the fact that he was an undocumented migrant means I’ll be doing my own clean up work and paying for any replacement trees. I suspect he won’t even show up for court so small claims is out. I suppose I could file a claim with my homeowners insurance and then see it go up by double the payout.
Sometimes it doesn’t pay to get out of bed.
@oldfarmer50 - that really stinks! Do you at least get to keep the Frontier for scrap?
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@oldfarmer50 We had that happen on our ranch a few times in the years we lived there. This was back in the 1980s. Oddly, I never once saw a person, but twice we saw the mangled carnage of the vehicle, and once the person was able to drive all the way through our field, opened the gate (and left it open), and drove away.
I should be used to it by now. We’ve had a motorcycle fly off the turn and land in the driveway. We’ve had a kid transporting for a car dealer take down a half dozen trees adjacent to the current ones when they were all a lot smaller (I had finally gotten around to planting some shrubs in the gap the week before this happened). I’ve lost count of the mailboxes knocked down or cars that slid off the road.
I’m just getting too old for this stuff. Maybe I should build tank traps by the road. 🤣
————————————————- And if someone gets hurt on those pointed pyramids you’ll be sued and lose your house and hoopties. Better not.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
@penfan83, You didn't name one good thing anf you can't think that the person that caused damage to oldfarmer50's property would care about any of those legal issues you detailed. You can't get blood from a stone is an appropriate expression.
@penfan83, You didn't name one good thing anf you can't think that the person that caused damage to oldfarmer50's property would care about any of those legal issues you detailed. You can't get blood from a stone is an appropriate expression.
———————————————— You’d think if you’re here illegally, you’d be on your best behavior to make sure they don’t find you but it seems the opposite is true. A criminal is a criminal regardless of legal citizenship or not and/or where they are. It’s in their genes.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
@pensfan83, In real terms, it means the driver wasn't licensed.
He may have been licensed, NY gives licenses to undocumented people without need for….documents, or he could have had his license suspended for a previous infraction.
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Illegal, legal, or US citizen, when I had a no insurance charge with an accident involved I ordered the defendant to pay restitution- at a minimum the other driver's deductible but often the entire amount of damages. Restitution orders in criminal cases can't be discharged in bankruptcy, so the deadbeat always has the possibility of jail hanging over his/her head until he/she either pays or shuffles off this mortal coil.
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@oldfarmer50 I know the tank trap was a joke, but it might be worthwhile to have a series of large boulders set strategically. Perhaps even a call to the county to see if they might bother with a short guard rail. I know you've been at that location for a good spell now, so it sounds like this is a fairly rare, if not surprising, occurrence.
It would really stir my pot if someone took out my trees like that, though. It takes a lot longer to grow a nice tree than it does to replace a human.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I’ve known a couple of people who got large boulders deposited in front of their houses as a landscaping feature. I remember one of them telling me that it was a few thousand dollars.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
@ab348 said:
I’ve known a couple of people who got large boulders deposited in front of their houses as a landscaping feature. I remember one of them telling me that it was a few thousand dollars.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I’ve known a couple of people who got large boulders deposited in front of their houses as a landscaping feature. I remember one of them telling me that it was a few thousand dollars.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
———————————————— I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
In case anyone wants to know, I ended up selling the S4 for $20,500 cash last November. 21 year old guy from up in LA area, man, I wish when I was 21 I had a car as nice as my S4 still was. They might be outnumbered, but there are still young people out there that like fine automobiles.
Sounds like a good deal for both of you. With the work you put into it, it was definitely worth that much, but the black mark on its vehicle history made it such that it wasn't your traditional sale (like a trade-in, etc.).
You should swing by more often! I mean, we're just hearing about this now, and it's already been gone for 6+ months?!
The last 6 months seem like a blur. Had a forced upon me job change in that period too. The S4 sale was a good deal for both parties. I got more than trade-ins would pay, and he got a wonderful automobile that $20.5 K can't come close to touching at the price point. All it needed was a DSG transmission oil, and motor oil change/service; everything else including battery & brakes were fresh (well, the tires were less than fresh, but not in need of immediate changing). I was motivated by not having to pay CA for another year of registration.
'18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
Illegal, legal, or US citizen, when I had a no insurance charge with an accident involved I ordered the defendant to pay restitution- at a minimum the other driver's deductible but often the entire amount of damages. Restitution orders in criminal cases can't be discharged in bankruptcy, so the deadbeat always has the possibility of jail hanging over his/her head until he/she either pays or shuffles off this mortal coil.
That made me remember another episode of carnage at my house. A guy who lived with his parents down the street got stuck turning around in my driveway after a snow storm. To give himself traction he tore down a dwarf Japanese Maple that I had been growing for years. The police told him he better do the right thing so he showed up and said he would pay. I sent him an estimate for purchase of the tree only and I would do the planting work to save him money. He then proceeded to ghost me resulting in a default small claims judgement because he didn’t show for court. I chased him for a few weeks with his father covering for him and saying he didn’t know where he was. Turned out he fled to Florida to avoid seizure of his property.
BTW I got an estimate for the cleanup and replanting plus some reseeding of the lawn. $4900+😳
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I’ve known a couple of people who got large boulders deposited in front of their houses as a landscaping feature. I remember one of them telling me that it was a few thousand dollars.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
———————————————— I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
jmonroe
You could make the same argument about a tree or a lamppost- it wouldn't get very far with me. That said, civil caselaw leans more and more towards protecting the abject moron from the consequences of his/her stupid action, so you may run across a hand-wringing bedwetter of a jurist who agrees that personal responsibility is oppressive.
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Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I’ve known a couple of people who got large boulders deposited in front of their houses as a landscaping feature. I remember one of them telling me that it was a few thousand dollars.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
———————————————— I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
jmonroe
You could make the same argument about a tree or a lamppost- it wouldn't get very far with me. That said, civil caselaw leans more and more towards protecting the abject moron from the consequences of his/her stupid action, so you may run across a hand-wringing bedwetter of a jurist who agrees that personal responsibility is oppressive.
Slippery slope that line of illogical logic.
Tying into cars, you often hear the ol' "If he hadn't of been speeding, then the collision wouldn't have taken place......" Of course, to me, that's the same line of reasoning (ignoring real world readily apparent conditions) as "if the other person hadn't been born, then they wouldn't have been there driving, and the collision wouldn't have taken place."
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Tying into cars, you often hear the ol' "If he hadn't of been speeding, then the collision wouldn't have taken place......" Of course, to me, that's the same line of reasoning (ignoring real world readily apparent conditions) as "if the other person hadn't been born, then they wouldn't have been there driving, and the collision wouldn't have taken place."
Right, and that was really the point. But, and @roadburner would know better than anyone here, jurors like that DO exist, and far too often! I participated in a criminal trial a year ago where we ended up stalling out due to a small contingent of the jury "not feeling comfortable with convicting a sixteen-year-old kid." Seriously! Ultimately, they were comfortable with flat breaking the oath they took as jurors, but THAT is okay, just not convicting the poor kid. I told the judge that they should get jail time for willfully breaking their oaths, but she said it didn't work like that. Seems to me like it should be the same thing as being held in contempt of court (which, really, that is what it is).
Too bad, but we cannot have accountability, now can we?
Anyhow, for the boulders, it really depends on the reasonability of it. If you place large boulders on your property and far enough off the road as to allow for normal driving errors (i.e., far more room for error than a guardrail provides), I don't see how it would ever be anyone's fault other than the driver. An argument could be made for intent to harm over something like a spike, but a boulder? That is just a protective landscape feature. Anyone harmed by that is doing something so far outside the realm of normal/reasonable, it is no longer even an argument.
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Tying into cars, you often hear the ol' "If he hadn't of been speeding, then the collision wouldn't have taken place......" Of course, to me, that's the same line of reasoning (ignoring real world readily apparent conditions) as "if the other person hadn't been born, then they wouldn't have been there driving, and the collision wouldn't have taken place."
Right, and that was really the point. But, and @roadburner would know better than anyone here, jurors like that DO exist, and far too often! I participated in a criminal trial a year ago where we ended up stalling out due to a small contingent of the jury "not feeling comfortable with convicting a sixteen-year-old kid." Seriously! Ultimately, they were comfortable with flat breaking the oath they took as jurors, but THAT is okay, just not convicting the poor kid. I told the judge that they should get jail time for willfully breaking their oaths, but she said it didn't work like that. Seems to me like it should be the same thing as being held in contempt of court (which, really, that is what it is).
Too bad, but we cannot have accountability, now can we?
Anyhow, for the boulders, it really depends on the reasonability of it. If you place large boulders on your property and far enough off the road as to allow for normal driving errors (i.e., far more room for error than a guardrail provides), I don't see how it would ever be anyone's fault other than the driver. An argument could be made for intent to harm over something like a spike, but a boulder? That is just a protective landscape feature. Anyone harmed by that is doing something so far outside the realm of normal/reasonable, it is no longer even an argument.
I lost a case where the defendant was filmed pointing a gun at the victim (another female). The victim drove away and the defendant shot at her car- hitting it on the C-Pillar. At trial I showed the video three times- and the defendant even admitted shooting at the victim. The jurors thought there was reasonable doubt because I didn't have a ballistics test run on the gunshot damage to the car- never mind that the defendant admitted shooting at the car.
That's why I always told victims that there is no way to anticipate what a jury of 12 people might do- so If a plea gets us most of what we want I would advise taking it.
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I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
That reminded me of a situation that existed here for decades. There is a highway heading into town that has followed that same routing for about a century. It was originally a 2-lane of course and stayed that way until well into the ‘70s. It goes over a large hill, and the long downhill stretch was steep enough that you needed to brake to stay even close to the speed limit. In the old days that would get challenging with the braking tech of those times.
As an extra added attraction, at the bottom of the hill there was a curve to the left, and facing you as you approached was a huge boulder just off the road. I remember as a little kid seeing it and commenting on how that looked dangerous. Mom responded that it was the Killer Boulder as apparently many vehicles had lost control and hit it with dire results. It is long gone now but it was amazing it remained as long as it did.
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DUH.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I have those at home and was gonna buy them for here but I was afraid they weren’t long enough.
————————————————Pop rivet or duct tape 2 of them together.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Yup. Same thing! Different label/manufacturer
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Yup. Same thing! Different label/manufacturer
————————————————I assume that stuff doesn’t harm plastic drain pipe but I also assume it could play hell with metal piping.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
You should swing by more often! I mean, we're just hearing about this now, and it's already been gone for 6+ months?!
The Camry? Not sure what I can add, as someone mentioned earlier, surprisingly peppy when I dropped the hammer with all the strange and wonderful sounds of gas engine and electric motor doing their dance of joy. Only thing that really registered with me was that the center HVAC vents were mounted too low.
Exhausted from the dam trip, we took a day off from demon gambling to allow the casinos to replenish their cash due to the beating we exerted on their reserves prior. We relaxed by pool/hot tub, but due to thunder/lightning the pools were emptied of people, and we were advised to take cover. So, we found a large, air cooled cabana with comfy couches and a "Reserved" sign (coulda been for us, I didn't see a name...) and read and napped. Skies cleared and back to splashing.
The next day we resumed our quest to enhance our retirement accounts at the expense of the big, ugly corporations, alas the small fortune became valet tip money. They must have studied the videotape and changed their strategy to hoover (vacuum, not dam) cash directly from my pockets. What a surprise, yet no lesson learned. Yup, I'm wicked smart.
And, unfortunately, 80-year-old Rod Stewart (the raison d'etre for this trip) had to cancel shows due to reported strep throat, ticket price refunded. And, yes, lost at the tables. I'm an old dog.
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Even if you don’t gamble LV will drain you so fast…..
I couldn’t believe my expenses after being there nearly a week for work. The tips and stupid cost for anything at the hotels.
A few of us had “lunch” by the pool the afternoon we finished our booth setup. My boss disappears and I got stuck with the bill. It was over $400 for 3 of us.
When I submitted my expenses I made sure to remind him that he was at this lunch. He yeah I remember I made sure you paid it so that my boss didn’t question it!
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Gotta admit that this one is cute
I enjoyed that event the first couple of years I was there, but was taken aback in year 3 or 4 when the festivities at the resto were winding down and the boss got up to leave, telling me to take care of the cheque. It was a big number as I recall. I put it on my CC and filled out an expense report the following week for him, where I learned the other part of the story. We had gotten a new big boss 18 months earlier who quickly became disliked by most everyone but especially his direct reports like my boss. Turned out he clamped down on their expense reports quite a bit, maybe justifiably but who knows. So my boss knew he could no longer claim the Christmas lunch for the business unit on his expenses. Since he approved my claim and only the processing clerk who also worked for him would see it, I got anointed. I didn’t like it but what could I do? Thankfully nothing blew up..
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Had a coupon for $10 off on 'The Works'.
Took them a while, way past my appointment time to get to it.
Once they bought it in, a guy came out, called my name and showed me engine and cabin air filters that were pretty dirty. Were they actually mine, who knows?
$110 to replace them both. Since I was there, I said to replace them.
Also, they tested the battery.
I had just about enough points to cover everything. Usually, I replace the filters myself.
Ended up owning about $15 but the same guy who showed me the filters pointed out an additional online $20 rebate.
Driving home, I couldn't believe how much smoother and quieter it ran, so much so that I missed the first and second turns to get back home.
@sda,
It looks like those tires are the rim protector design which is a good tire feature.
I finally got the police report and they hit him up for DWI, DWI over .08%, aggravated unlicensed operation, no insurance, open container and failure to keep right. The no insurance and the fact that he was an undocumented migrant means I’ll be doing my own clean up work and paying for any replacement trees. I suspect he won’t even show up for court so small claims is out. I suppose I could file a claim with my homeowners insurance and then see it go up by double the payout.
Sometimes it doesn’t pay to get out of bed.
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it could have been worse. They could have decided they needed a replacement vehicle from the nearest opportunity.
I'm not sure where citizenship status factors in but carry on.
I’m just getting too old for this stuff. Maybe I should build tank traps by the road. 🤣
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
In real terms, it means the driver wasn't licensed.
And undocumented means the courts can’t track him nor garnish wages. I believe that was his point since the statement was tied to not taking it to court.
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Unlicensed drivers aren't exclusive to those who have issues with immigration status and lets not even talk about how many people of all citizenship stautus work under the table to avoid liens,judgments, wage garnishment, and alimony or child support. I can tell you who where I see the heaviest concentration though.
You didn't name one good thing anf you can't think that the person that caused damage to oldfarmer50's property would care about any of those legal issues you detailed.
You can't get blood from a stone is an appropriate expression.
Yeah I'm not continuing this conversation for a multitude of reasons.
Me either. I hold the winning hand.
Remember, we can always have a discussion "time out", if necessary.
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@oldfarmer50 - that really stinks! Do you at least get to keep the Frontier for scrap?
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And if someone gets hurt on those pointed pyramids you’ll be sued and lose your house and hoopties. Better not.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I'm deleting posts that I'm not happy with. I have no problem shutting this discussion down for a while to give everybody a chance to reset.
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You’d think if you’re here illegally, you’d be on your best behavior to make sure they don’t find you but it seems the opposite is true. A criminal is a criminal regardless of legal citizenship or not and/or where they are. It’s in their genes.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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@oldfarmer50
Man this really sucks for you. I’d be really ticked off too.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
It would really stir my pot if someone took out my trees like that, though. It takes a lot longer to grow a nice tree than it does to replace a human.
Around here you often see large boulders out on country loads just off the shoulder or just in the edge of the woods. Lots of granite here. I suppose the cost is all about getting them from where they are to where you want them to be.
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If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
If someone runs into a landscaping boulder and is hurt, who is liable?
————————————————I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
BTW I got an estimate for the cleanup and replanting plus some reseeding of the lawn. $4900+😳
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I’m not a lawyer but I can envision the lawyer of the injured party trying to claim that if the boulder wasn’t there the person wouldn’t have been injured. So, i’ll let our real legal poster buddies answer this question.
jmonroe
You could make the same argument about a tree or a lamppost- it wouldn't get very far with me. That said, civil caselaw leans more and more towards protecting the abject moron from the consequences of his/her stupid action, so you may run across a hand-wringing bedwetter of a jurist who agrees that personal responsibility is oppressive.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Slippery slope that line of illogical logic.
Tying into cars, you often hear the ol' "If he hadn't of been speeding, then the collision wouldn't have taken place......"
Of course, to me, that's the same line of reasoning (ignoring real world readily apparent conditions) as "if the other person hadn't been born, then they wouldn't have been there driving, and the collision wouldn't have taken place."
Too bad, but we cannot have accountability, now can we?
Anyhow, for the boulders, it really depends on the reasonability of it. If you place large boulders on your property and far enough off the road as to allow for normal driving errors (i.e., far more room for error than a guardrail provides), I don't see how it would ever be anyone's fault other than the driver. An argument could be made for intent to harm over something like a spike, but a boulder? That is just a protective landscape feature. Anyone harmed by that is doing something so far outside the realm of normal/reasonable, it is no longer even an argument.
That's why I always told victims that there is no way to anticipate what a jury of 12 people might do- so If a plea gets us most of what we want I would advise taking it.
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Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
As an extra added attraction, at the bottom of the hill there was a curve to the left, and facing you as you approached was a huge boulder just off the road. I remember as a little kid seeing it and commenting on how that looked dangerous. Mom responded that it was the Killer Boulder as apparently many vehicles had lost control and hit it with dire results. It is long gone now but it was amazing it remained as long as it did.
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Got this sent to me.....
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