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stickguy

tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:

The push to be broke before retirement continues. Fence goes in Thursday so more $ into that. Signed up for the custom closet guy to come out in 2 weeks to do out pantry. And our fancy new mattress should get delivered in the next 2 weeks, which means we need to pay for the rest of the new bedroom set to have something to put it on.

At this rate $.88/lb turkey will be too rich for my blood.

You only live once! 🤪🤪

true. and some of this is deferred enjoy it while we can. The bedroom set we are replacing is 39 YO now. Got our money's worth out of it. And we really wanted to upsize to a king bed.

the rest of it is just factored into the price of the new house. Which we should still have quite a bit of profit equity in.

we did buy the $.88/lb turkey tonight. A tiny little thing at 19.75 pounds. Broke my wife's heart to not get 24 lbs. Going to need a turkey breast too to make it work.

stickguy

Met the people behind us finally yesterday and today. until now could hardly tell the old people lived there (the back was all overgrown and they never came out the back door). Today my wife got all worked up because there was a guy messing around in the woods (and she was sure he put some sticks on our side of the line!) So I had to go out and snoop. Turned out to be the son of the owners up from Atlanta to visit and door things around the house. Owners are original (they built the house in 1972) and are now mid-80s and the husband had a stroke some years back and is not very mobile. So explains not seeing them.

the son ended up clearing out a ton of the overgrowth on their side (up to where I had cleared out already) and even did some of ours (it is a weirdly shaped lot). looks way better, but took out some of the limited privacy cover. Once the fence goes in, we need to find something to put in front of it to help with that! But we are going to end up with a lot more reclaimed yard space than I expected.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:

The push to be broke before retirement continues. Fence goes in Thursday so more $ into that. Signed up for the custom closet guy to come out in 2 weeks to do out pantry. And our fancy new mattress should get delivered in the next 2 weeks, which means we need to pay for the rest of the new bedroom set to have something to put it on.

At this rate $.88/lb turkey will be too rich for my blood.

You only live once! 🤪🤪

true. and some of this is deferred enjoy it while we can. The bedroom set we are replacing is 39 YO now. Got our money's worth out of it. And we really wanted to upsize to a king bed.

the rest of it is just factored into the price of the new house. Which we should still have quite a bit of profit equity in.

we did buy the $.88/lb turkey tonight. A tiny little thing at 19.75 pounds. Broke my wife's heart to not get 24 lbs. Going to need a turkey breast too to make it work.
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Why not scoop up a couple rabbits and a raccoon or 2 and make a hearty soup.

jmonroe

Michaell

xwesx said:

Michaell said:

I believe the color they landed on is called Snowbound.

Well, that sounds cheery.

First snowfall here in Colorado tonight, too!

ab348

stickguy said:

true. and some of this is deferred enjoy it while we can. The bedroom set we are replacing is 39 YO now. Got our money's worth out of it. And we really wanted to upsize to a king bed.

I believe I mentioned that my oldest brother and his wife sold the house where they had lived since 1968 and moved into a brand-new apartment building not too far away from me. I got to visit them there earlier this week. The building itself is nice enough although the underground parking garage is one of the tightest I've seen with lots of columns and narrow lanes. The building itself is nice enough and they have a large apartment with 2 BRs, 2 baths and a den although it is mostly open-plan. What struck me was how their old furniture absolutely does not suit the place. Much of it is from the 1960s and even the newer stuff is from the '80s. It is all very dated in that large glass box they now reside in. Even they accept that they need to buy new stuff.

venture

I took the Legacy in to get the taillight replaced this morning. It took them <20 minutes and they charged $120 for an hour labor.

Total $502.18. Jiminy Cricket's!

jmonroe1

venture said:

I took the Legacy in to get the taillight replaced this morning. It took them

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What happened? I thought you were going to do this yourself. It doesn’t sound like it was very hard to do.

jmonroe

stickguy

I failed the be the guy contingent today. Went to put up a new dining room fixture Sunday and couldn’t figure out the tricks to get the thing assembled and installed. It was one of those variable length ones where you screw together pipes to the length you want then fish the wires up through it. Then through the threaded pipe in the box bracket. With instructions that were awful, working with 9’ ceilings. Got to the point I was afraid of breaking it so threw in the towel and called the electrician that did the whole house. Took him about 15 minutes to have it up but at least now (since I watched) I know how it is supposed To be done!

Side benefit, for the same service call fee, he installed 2 dimmers into the 4 switch box that I also was not looking g forward to doing.

Might have cost me some $ (though these days it was chump change) but at least they are done, safe and look good. With done being the key!

Michaell

The painting has begun. The living room and dining room are torn up (art and window coverings were taken down), and my stepdaughter is currently painting the living room.

Much better quality paint than the builder grade stuff that was sprayed on when the house was built 8+ years ago, and the white really pops when compared to the old color.

ab348

@stickguy said:
Side benefit, for the same service call fee, he installed 2 dimmers into the 4 switch box that I also was not looking g forward to doing.

Might have cost me some $ (though these days it was chump change) but at least they are done, safe and look good. With done being the key!

You should have got him to install some 3-way switches on spec while he was there since no DIYer can ever do those right.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

The painting has begun. The living room and dining room are torn up (art and window coverings were taken down), and my stepdaughter is currently painting the living room.

Much better quality paint than the builder grade stuff that was sprayed on when the house was built 8+ years ago, and the white really pops when compared to the old color.

Here’s a few painting tips you might want to show your daughter:

https://youtu.be/4HSlNkoIID4?feature=shared

stickguy

We have at least 1 3 way switch. Many 2 way. One dimmer was on a single, the other on. 2 way. Both in a 4 switch box. Those are a huge hassle getting everything in and lined up again, especially with a dimmer switch (in this case 2 of them) jammed in.

xwesx

Michaell said:

The painting has begun. The living room and dining room are torn up (art and window coverings were taken down), and my stepdaughter is currently painting the living room.

Much better quality paint than the builder grade stuff that was sprayed on when the house was built 8+ years ago, and the white really pops when compared to the old color.

I mis-read this the first time through and thought you said, "and the wife really pops when compared to the old color." I stopped and did a double-take while thinking, "what an odd thing to notice!" /facepalm

xwesx

Came across this funny Marketplace post:

https://www.facebook.com/share/1DeD3kuXYx/

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

We have at least 1 3 way switch. Many 2 way. One dimmer was on a single, the other on. 2 way. Both in a 4 switch box. Those are a huge hassle getting everything in and lined up again, especially with a dimmer switch (in this case 2 of them) jammed in.

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I’m confused. What is a 2 way switch?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

Came across this funny Marketplace post:

https://www.facebook.com/share/1DeD3kuXYx/

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That price ($1,776) has to be a typo. You could get more than that in scrap weight for the dozer alone. Even 17 grand would be an unbelievable bargain.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Went to Home Depot today to buy some more supplies for my kitchen project.
A quart of Behr white trim paint was $26.
Luckily, I found some Rustoleum brand trim paint that was less than $17(still very expensive).

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

Went to Home Depot today to buy some more supplies for my kitchen project.
A quart of Behr white trim paint was $26.
Luckily, I found some Rustoleum brand trim paint that was less than $17(still very expensive).

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And probably just as good. Especially for the wood on top of the cabinets (that may get a dusting once a year by Mrs. explorer) and maybe even to paint the crown moulding.

jmonroe

venture

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

I took the Legacy in to get the taillight replaced this morning. It took them

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What happened? I thought you were going to do this yourself. It doesn’t sound like it was very hard to do.

jmonroe

I was going to. I ran out of time and inspiration.

It still boils my beans when they charge you book rate.

jmonroe1

venture said:

jmonroe1 said:

venture said:

I took the Legacy in to get the taillight replaced this morning. It took them

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What happened? I thought you were going to do this yourself. It doesn’t sound like it was very hard to do.

jmonroe

I was going to. I ran out of time and inspiration.

It still boils my beans when they charge you book rate.

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Losing inspiration is usually costly. That’s why a dealership’s service dept. never loses it given the hourly rates they charge.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

xwesx said:

Came across this funny Marketplace post:

https://www.facebook.com/share/1DeD3kuXYx/

I just get a Facebook log in.

xwesx

It's gone now, so probably got flagged. I should have taken a screenshot.

Anyhow, it is a play on a crazy incident that happened a while back. Basically a guy posted photos of a large dozer and some 1/4" plate steel, said, "Bought it for a project but don't need it anymore," and listed a price of $1,776.

I'm 100% certain he was trying (successfully) to be funny, and wasn't actually looking to sell anything (or cause any mayhem).

Michaell

First snow of the season today in Colorado. Started last night, and hasn't stopped as of this posting.

Went out to grab some dinner, and spotted a Jeep Gladiator with a jacked up suspension and 35" tires high-centered on the center guardrail - the left front wheel and tire were over the maybe 3' high guardrail.

How they managed to accomplish that, I have no idea.

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

First snow of the season today in Colorado. Started last night, and hasn't stopped as of this posting.

Went out to grab some dinner, and spotted a Jeep Gladiator with a jacked up suspension and 35" tires high-centered on the center guardrail - the left front wheel and tire were over the maybe 3' high guardrail.

How they managed to accomplish that, I have no idea.

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Well, with extra large tires it would be lot easier than with the family sedan.

Maybe the driver bought into the misunderstanding that large tires and 4 wheel drive, makes you invincible. You find these folks every winter doing something like that. The laws of physics and inertia can’t stop me.

jmonroe

corvette

Michaell said:

...spotted a Jeep Gladiator with a jacked up suspension and 35" tires high-centered on the center guardrail - the left front wheel and tire were over the maybe 3' high guardrail.

How they managed to accomplish that, I have no idea.

Sounds like they had Big Altima Energy.

abacomike

@tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:
The push to be broke before retirement continues. Fence goes in Thursday so more $ into that. Signed up for the custom closet guy to come out in 2 weeks to do out pantry. And our fancy new mattress should get delivered in the next 2 weeks, which means we need to pay for the rest of the new bedroom set to have something to put it on.

At this rate $.88/lb turkey will be too rich for my blood.

You only live once! 🤪🤪

Ian Fleming claims, “…You Only Live Twice…” and the Broccoli Family made a fortune over those 4 simple words. 🤪😜

jmonroe1

corvette said:

Michaell said:

...spotted a Jeep Gladiator with a jacked up suspension and 35" tires high-centered on the center guardrail - the left front wheel and tire were over the maybe 3' high guardrail.

How they managed to accomplish that, I have no idea.

Sounds like they had Big Altima Energy.

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I can’t open that link.

jmonroe

stickguy

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

We have at least 1 3 way switch. Many 2 way. One dimmer was on a single, the other on. 2 way. Both in a 4 switch box. Those are a huge hassle getting everything in and lined up again, especially with a dimmer switch (in this case 2 of them) jammed in.

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I’m confused. What is a 2 way switch?

jmonroe

one with 2 different switches connected. a 3 way has 3 different switch options.

what do you call those?

xwesx

stickguy said:

one with 2 different switches connected. a 3 way has 3 different switch options.

what do you call those?

No, a three-way has two separate switches (the third "way" is the lighting itself). A four-way has three separate switches.

A normal light switch (single switch) is a two-way.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

We have at least 1 3 way switch. Many 2 way. One dimmer was on a single, the other on. 2 way. Both in a 4 switch box. Those are a huge hassle getting everything in and lined up again, especially with a dimmer switch (in this case 2 of them) jammed in.

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I’m confused. What is a 2 way switch?

jmonroe

one with 2 different switches connected. a 3 way has 3 different switch options.

what do you call those?

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A 3-way switch has 2 on positions not 3. Maybe you’re confusing this because a 3-way switch has 3 terminals.

A 3-way switch is nothing more than a single pole double throw switch with the pole contact being the common contact that selects one OR the other of the 2 remaining contacts but NOT both at the same time.

Contrary to popular belief, if you’re changing a 3-way switch in a previously correctly wired 3-way circuit, even if you wire it incorrectly (which a lot of DIYers do) you will not trip the breaker but if miswired, the circuit will not work as it should.

jmonroe

stickguy

I count the number of switches. 1 being standard. and can go to 2 or 3 (or more I guess!)

call them whatever you want.

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

stickguy said:

one with 2 different switches connected. a 3 way has 3 different switch options.

what do you call those?

No, a three-way has two separate switches (the third "way" is the lighting itself). A four-way has three separate switches.

A normal light switch (single switch) is a two-way.

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Correction: A 4-way switch (as used in a house to control a light from 3 different locations) has 2 not 3 separate internal switches contained in the single switch unit with one external toggle to operate both switches at the same time.

The internal makeup of a 4-way switch is too complicated to explain here with words. But let me just say the major part is that a 4-way switch is nothing more than a double pole double throw, no center off position switch with 2 of the switches 6 terminals not having external connection terminals. Plus 2 internal jumpers to the non-pole contacts. Like I said a little complicated without a schematic of the switches internals.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

I count the number of switches. 1 being standard. and can go to 2 or 3 (or more I guess!)

call them whatever you want.

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I don’t want to argue but I don’t know what you just said.

When I talk about switches I have to call them what they are officially called. Otherwise, I’d be passing on incorrect information.

jmonroe

stickguy

we have so many switches we are still trying to figure out which ones work what. At least the dimmers I bought were compatible (one was a "2 way" (using JMonroe math) and the other was a "3 way" I believe the package said they were 3 way capable. Expensive buggers but we bought the fancy brand that the electrician (who is really good) says he uses for that application

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

we have so many switches we are still trying to figure out which ones work what. At least the dimmers I bought were compatible (one was a "2 way" (using JMonroe math) and the other was a "3 way" I believe the package said they were 3 way capable. Expensive buggers but we bought the fancy brand that the electrician (who is really good) says he uses for that application

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I don’t think I said anything about a 2-way switch because I don’t know what a 2-way switch is but I’m open to hear it described/explained.

jmonroe

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

I don’t think I said anything about a 2-way switch because I don’t know what a 2-way switch is but I’m open to hear it described/explained.

jmonroe

2-way: Off and On.

mjfloyd1

Who’s on first…😎

tjc78

This really is like a Who’s on First conversation …lol

A “2-way”‘ switch is call a single pole

Fun fact ..4 way switches (3 locations) actually use two three way switches and one four way.

Yes J - if someone screws up a three way the light will still work but it will only turn on from one switch…meaning that if you turn it off it will not be able to be turned on from the other location.

Common (see what I did there..) mistake is not paying attention to the dark screw on a three way. The dark screw is the common (hot) wire. That must be remain in the same spot. The shunts (or travelers) can be on either of the shiny terminals.

Fun fact … a four way is wired identical to a three way except you insert a four way switch in the middle of the circuit and connect the travelers to it.

tjc78

@stickguy
I feel your pain with all the switches. When we moved it took me awhile to figure all of them out.

Each room has a minimum of a four gang box. Outlet, led cans, ceiling fan, ceiling fan light.

Our family room / kitchen must have 30+ switches.

One thing that drove everyone crazy was the switched outlets. Took a month or so but finally realized any outlet that was installed with the ground up is switched. The ground down outlets are hot all the time.

stickguy

That was a nice thing for the electricians to do

stickguy

I do have another fixture to replace myself. Would have had that done too but we didn’t get one yet (wife’s plan was to get a ceiling fan for the guest room and once I put that in take the fixture currently there and move it down). I just don’t remember how the wires differ at the
Light fixture when there iare 2 switches connected to it. Which is why I had them leave up the very unattractive bare bulb fixture in the office figuring I would just look at the current fixture and make sure the wires got connected to the new one the exact same way.

ab348

tjc78 said:

One thing that drove everyone crazy was the switched outlets. Took a month or so but finally realized any outlet that was installed with the ground up is switched. The ground down outlets are hot all the time.

That must make it tricky for outlets where the top is always hot but the bottom one is switched.

suydam

tjc78 said:

@stickguy

I feel your pain with all the switches. When we moved it took me awhile to figure all of them out.

Each room has a minimum of a four gang box. Outlet, led cans, ceiling fan, ceiling fan light.

Our family room / kitchen must have 30+ switches.

One thing that drove everyone crazy was the switched outlets. Took a month or so but finally realized any outlet that was installed with the ground up is switched. The ground down outlets are hot all the time.

We had that issue too. Only fixed when we remodeled the downstairs. Now all the switches are in logical places and actually work the way they are supposed to.

imidazol97

Not to "switch" topics, but I saw this picture...
Of course, it would have to be a Buick, and it would have to be Ohio license plates.

Michaell

Day 1 of painting is complete - the vertical walls in both the living room and dining room are done. Not sure what the plan is for today - likely the kitchen and hallway.

Ceiling and the walls in the stairway to the basement will get done when my daughters best friend shows up to help after Thanksgiving.

The nice thing is that she's put the rooms back together immediately after painting, so the house isn't a complete disaster.

tjc78

@suydam said:
We had that issue too. Only fixed when we remodeled the downstairs. Now all the switches are in logical places and actually work the way they are supposed to.

If I was ever to build something from scratch I will go full smart switches and outlets. Just pick up your phone and turn on/off anything you want.

I’ve looked into converting my house but it’s a substantial cost and a ton of work swapping all the switches. They require neutral wires so you basically have to pigtail everything and redo the entire box.

nyccarguy

I can't stand electrical work. The wires never fit in the tiny box.

mjfloyd1

@tjc78 said:

@suydam said:
We had that issue too. Only fixed when we remodeled the downstairs. Now all the switches are in logical places and actually work the way they are supposed to.

If I was ever to build something from scratch I will go full smart switches and outlets. Just pick up your phone and turn on/off anything you want.

I’ve looked into converting my house but it’s a substantial cost and a ton of work swapping all the switches. They require neutral wires so you basically have to pigtail everything and redo the entire box.

Whenever I try smart systems, something goes sideways and I end up wishing that I had not. Something ends up not passing the signal because hardware does not work well.

laurasdada

stickguy said:

jmonroe1 said:

stickguy said:

We have at least 1 3 way switch. Many 2 way. One dimmer was on a single, the other on. 2 way. Both in a 4 switch box. Those are a huge hassle getting everything in and lined up again, especially with a dimmer switch (in this case 2 of them) jammed in.

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I’m confused. What is a 2 way switch?

jmonroe

one with 2 different switches connected. a 3 way has 3 different switch options.

what do you call those?

A threesome?

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

jmonroe1 said:

I don’t think I said anything about a 2-way switch because I don’t know what a 2-way switch is but I’m open to hear it described/explained.

jmonroe

2-way: Off and On.

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Yeah, I forgot about that.

jmonroe