Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

roadburner · January 19

I forgot one- my 1967 Buick Riviera (that I bought for $5.00).

roadburner · January 19

A friend of mine runs a used car lot; he just posted this car- a 1999 with 54,000 miles. $5,995.00:

Michaell · January 19

Paging @tjc78 - please pick up the white courtesy telephone.

xwesx · January 19

roadburner said:
A friend of mine runs a used car lot; he just posted this car- a 1999 with 54,000 miles. $5,995.00:

Nice!

While I cannot get over how little interior room those cars have for their size, they are a great highway cruiser.

stickguy · January 19

unfortunately, 95+% of my driving is not highway cruising!

Maybe this used to be a bigger deal, but now, almost every car is a great highway cruiser. My Maverick will happily cruise along creeping up over 80, with next to no wind , road or engine noise. Comfy seats, cushy ride. And that is a "baby" truck. I assume a big mastodon like TJC's Ram is even more of a limo than the Lincoln!

tifighter · January 19

Crayola parking.

tifighter · January 19

Also, never owned a V8.

jmonroe1 · January 19

roadburner said:
I forgot one- my 1967 Buick Riviera (that I bought for $5.00).

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Wow, 5 bucks !! You can’t even steal a car that cheap.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · January 19

tifighter said:
Crayola parking.

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Must be photoshopped…no snow.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · January 19

Skittles!

kyfdx · January 19

25 F, here today. No Cars n Coffee..

jmonroe1 · January 19

kyfdx said:
25 F, here today. No Cars n Coffee..

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So how was the coffee?

jmonroe

kyfdx · January 19

jmonroe1 said:

kyfdx said:
25 F, here today. No Cars n Coffee..
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So how was the coffee?

jmonroe

It’s always good at my house! Cheaper, too!

tifighter · January 19

@kyfdx said:
25 F, here today. No Cars n Coffee..

It was 23 when I left to go there. 26 when I arrived. Full turn out though.

stickguy · January 19

can't wait for the middle of the week. current forecast of lows of -2 all the way up to one degree, and highs lucky to crack double digits. At least should only be late Monday through early Thursday!

Michaell · January 19

stickguy said:
can't wait for the middle of the week. current forecast of lows of -2 all the way up to one degree, and highs lucky to crack double digits. At least should only be late Monday through early Thursday!

Currently 7; low tonight of -4.

High tomorrow of 7, low of -6.

Looks like the cold moves east after that.

imidazol97 · January 20

Sounds a lot like out forcast through Wednesday. Our typical once or twice each winter with lows below zero and highs in teens or low 20s.

explorerx4 · January 20

If you like green this may be the car for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKgdjczRTs

jmonroe1 · January 20

explorerx4 said:
If you like green this may be the car for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKgdjczRTs

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Since I probably can’t afford it I’ll ask…how much?

jmonroe

corvette · January 20

Finally switched out the cars (to the Ariya) and ran some errands this morning. The Ariya showed an outside temp of 8 degrees, 80% charge, and 95 miles of range vs. an official EPA range of 205 miles in more ideal conditions. I finished the day around 60% and put it on the charger for the night.

fintail · January 20

Assuming it is sound with no metal decay or similar issues, that's a very good deal. Quite old fashioned but very durable.

roadburner said:
A friend of mine runs a used car lot; he just posted this car- a 1999 with 54,000 miles. $5,995.00:

xwesx · January 20

corvette said:
Finally switched out the cars (to the Ariya) and ran some errands this morning. The Ariya showed an outside temp of 8 degrees, 80% charge, and 95 miles of range vs. an official EPA range of 205 miles in more ideal conditions. I finished the day around 60% and put it on the charger for the night.

But, how far did you go in that 20%?

suydam · January 20

Most people don’t travel more than 20 or so miles in a typical day.

venture · January 21

corvette said:
Finally switched out the cars (to the Ariya) and ran some errands this morning. The Ariya showed an outside temp of 8 degrees, 80% charge, and 95 miles of range vs. an official EPA range of 205 miles in more ideal conditions. I finished the day around 60% and put it on the charger for the night.

I finally saw an Ariya in person yesterday.

kyfdx · January 21

I saw one a couple months ago... @corvette was driving it.

stickguy · January 21

@venture said:
I finally saw an Ariya in person yesterday.

So did I on Sunday!

graphicguy · January 21

It was 0º when I took the pup out to do his business this a.m. (6:45-ish). It's 9º now.

Had 77% charge on the EV6, which translates to about 230 miles of range. But, in this weather, the KIA app allows me to have the heater, seat warmer, steering wheel warmer start with the app on my phone. So, I'm burning 4-5 minutes of juice whenever I need to drive somewhere. Like MPG on an ICE vehicle, warming up the car affects range on an EV.

This past Summer, range was about 8% higher.

kyfdx · January 21

Just checked.. it’s 81 F, here. 🙂

breld · January 21

I’m actually on the plane on my way to Seattle this morning. Have a quick meeting there and then actually flying back this afternoon or evening (depending on when the meetings end).

Perhaps I should have come out a day earlier to attend the cars and coffee! Maybe next time.

anonymousposts2025 · January 21

@kyfdx said:
25 F, here today. No Cars n Coffee..

I took my son to a Caffeine & Octane car show a couple of weeks ago. It was 40 degrees but it was packed like Disney. It seems most of the cars now are just spectators who pay the up charge to be able to park in the show lot at the mall. Saw a couple of nice cars, but it’s getting watered down.

stickguy · January 21

I hate when idiots running a good thing.

jmonroe1 · January 21

graphicguy said:
It was 0º when I took the pup out to do his business this a.m. (6:45-ish). It's 9º now.

Had 77% charge on the EV6, which translates to about 230 miles of range. But, in this weather, the KIA app allows me to have the heater, seat warmer, steering wheel warmer start with the app on my phone. So, I'm burning 4-5 minutes of juice whenever I need to drive somewhere. Like MPG on an ICE vehicle, warming up the car affects range on an EV.

This past Summer, range was about 8% higher.

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Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe

cdnpinhead · January 21

stickguy said:
I hate when idiots [are] running a good thing.

This is most certainly true, in many areas.

28firefighter · January 21

Shoulda called us, @breld!

corvette · January 21

xwesx said:

corvette said:
Finally switched out the cars (to the Ariya) and ran some errands this morning. The Ariya showed an outside temp of 8 degrees, 80% charge, and 95 miles of range vs. an official EPA range of 205 miles in more ideal conditions. I finished the day around 60% and put it on the charger for the night.
But, how far did you go in that 20%?

Not for sure, but there was a LOT of pre-heating the cabin. Also, I'm pretty sure the preheat bypasses the heat pump and uses resistance heating, because it only needs to run for a minute or two before it's warm. My trip back home from my local pub this evening was something like 1.4 miles per kWh.

This morning (about 10 degrees Fahrenheit), the app kept telling me it was unable to start the preheater. Hard pass. I stayed in my kitchen and restarted the app until it finally worked. The battery was at 94% this morning and is now at 79%, after maybe ten miles of driving, but again, a lot of preheating.

corvette · January 21

kyfdx said:
I saw one a couple months ago... @corvette was driving it.

You forgot to point out it is painted in Old Man Grey.

corvette · January 21

jmonroe1 said:
Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe

It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.

jmonroe1 · January 21

corvette said:

jmonroe1 said:
Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe
It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.

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I’m surprised a Level 2 charger can’t recharge a Silverado etc. over night. How many Level 2 charging hours does it take to get it to 100%? Or should I say 80%.

Regardless of how cold it’s ever been, I could fill my gas tank from near empty to full in less than 4 minutes. That sounds like one more nail in the coffin against EV’s as far as @driver100 is concerned.

jmonroe

imidazol97 · January 21

jmonroe1 said:

It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.

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I’m surprised a Level 2 charger can’t recharge a Silverado etc. over night. How many Level 2 charging hours does it take to get it to 100%? Or should I say 80%.

Regardless of how cold it’s ever been, I could fill my gas tank from near empty to full in less than 4 minutes. That sounds like one more nail in the coffin against EV’s as far as @driver100 is concerned.

jmonroe

Actually the comparison on time to refill the tank would be from 10% to 80% full. I'd guess that at about 2 minutes for either of my economical, efficient, low polluting, low demand on earth's natural resources Chevies. As i understand, the EV's shouldn't be run lower than a marginal value, is it 20% or 10% left and should not be recharged above 80% for optimum cell life.

suydam · January 21

That’s on a Level 2 charger. DC Fast chargers are a whole ‘nother thing. And even on the Level 2, you charge overnight while sleeping. No work involved!
Charging and charge times are just not a reason not to own or lease EVs. Charging infrastructure still is, BUT improving every year. That’s why we have one EV and one PHEV.

jmonroe1 · January 21

suydam said:
That’s on a Level 2 charger. DC Fast chargers are a whole ‘nother thing. And even on the Level 2, you charge overnight while sleeping. No work involved!
Charging and charge times are just not a reason not to own or lease EVs. Charging infrastructure still is, BUT improving every year. That’s why we have one EV and one PHEV.

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I will disagree with you on this 100%. Charging, charge times and let me add one more, availability of chargers that would take me even 1 mile out of my intended route, are the No.1 reasons why I don’t want any part of any EV vehicles.

Some day maybe but not today.

jmonroe

corvette · January 21

@suydam - most EVs fully charge overnight on Level 2. The ones with 200 kWh battery packs do not, if you're starting from (roughly) a half charge or below.

suydam · January 21

Yes of course. That’s what I said.

kyfdx · January 22

jmonroe1 said:

corvette said:

jmonroe1 said:
Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe
It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.
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I’m surprised a Level 2 charger can’t recharge a Silverado etc. over night. How many Level 2 charging hours does it take to get it to 100%? Or should I say 80%.

Regardless of how cold it’s ever been, I could fill my gas tank from near empty to full in less than 4 minutes. That sounds like one more nail in the coffin against EV’s as far as @driver100 is concerned.

jmonroe

You have a gas pump at your house? Because that's where the EV charger is.

nyccarguy · January 22

jmonroe1 said:

suydam said:
That’s on a Level 2 charger. DC Fast chargers are a whole ‘nother thing. And even on the Level 2, you charge overnight while sleeping. No work involved!
Charging and charge times are just not a reason not to own or lease EVs. Charging infrastructure still is, BUT improving every year. That’s why we have one EV and one PHEV.
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I will disagree with you on this 100%. Charging, charge times and let me add one more, availability of chargers that would take me even 1 mile out of my intended route, are the No.1 reasons why I don’t want any part of any EV vehicles.

Some day maybe but not today.

jmonroe

And definitely not a TESLA.

graphicguy · January 22

jmonroe1 said:

graphicguy said:
It was 0º when I took the pup out to do his business this a.m. (6:45-ish). It's 9º now.

Had 77% charge on the EV6, which translates to about 230 miles of range. But, in this weather, the KIA app allows me to have the heater, seat warmer, steering wheel warmer start with the app on my phone. So, I'm burning 4-5 minutes of juice whenever I need to drive somewhere. Like MPG on an ICE vehicle, warming up the car affects range on an EV.

This past Summer, range was about 8% higher.

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Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe

Current Craver?

stickguy · January 22

Electron hog?

graphicguy · January 22

jmonroe1 said:

corvette said:

jmonroe1 said:
Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe
It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.
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I’m surprised a Level 2 charger can’t recharge a Silverado etc. over night. How many Level 2 charging hours does it take to get it to 100%? Or should I say 80%.

Regardless of how cold it’s ever been, I could fill my gas tank from near empty to full in less than 4 minutes. That sounds like one more nail in the coffin against EV’s as far as @driver100 is concerned.

jmonroe

Yeah....but I don't have to drive to a gas station, stand at a gas pump in -2º temps with my Ice cold hand gripping a metal frozen nozzle to fill up. I pull into my garage, plug in, and it gets a "fill up" while I'm in my warm house having hot cocoa in front of my fireplace, or taking a nap.

People ask me how long it takes me to charge my EV6 at home. I really don't know. It charges when I'm asleep. Only used a fast charger 2X, for no other reason than I wanted to see how long it took. Supposed to take 18 minutes from 20%-80%. But, I had a little more change than 20% and it only took 15 minutes.

As quick as an ICE vehicle fillup? No. But, 15 minutes charge won't bother me on a road trip. I can plug in, get a coffee, use the facilities and be ready to rock pretty quickly.

graphicguy · January 22

explorerx4 said:
If you like green this may be the car for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuKgdjczRTs

The question I have is why anyone would drop serious coin on a car that's seriously that ugly?

oldfarmer50 · January 22

jmonroe1 said:

corvette said:

jmonroe1 said:
Just curious but when an ICE car consumes a lot of gas it’s called a gas hog. Has a term been created yet for EV’s that consume a goodly amount of electricity for whatever reason. If not, allow me to offer up…”Battery Killer” or “Battery Sucker”.

jmonroe
It's difficult to draw a line in the sand. I'd say the larger EV vehicles, which won't fully charge overnight on a standard Level 2 charger, such as the Silverado, Lightning, CyberTruck, etc., would qualify.
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I’m surprised a Level 2 charger can’t recharge a Silverado etc. over night. How many Level 2 charging hours does it take to get it to 100%? Or should I say 80%.

Regardless of how cold it’s ever been, I could fill my gas tank from near empty to full in less than 4 minutes. That sounds like one more nail in the coffin against EV’s as far as @driver100 is concerned.

jmonroe

I’m not the biggest EV advocate but at least the EV owner can fill his “tank” while sipping coffee in his warm living room while we dino fillers have to freeze our butts off.😂

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