Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

qbrozen

@anonymousposts2025 said:
We looked at a Panamera years ago, it was Gee’s dream car. Unfortunately, he couldn’t even sit in it, much less drive it. Beautiful cars though.

Why couldn’t he sit in it? Not dressed well enough? Ha.

Talked to … honestly no idea. I guess an internet person. We chatted for a while. He said he’d have the SM assign a salesperson who would call me and do a video walk around. Of course, being Friday afternoon, he wasn’t sure WHEN. So we’ll see. Honestly I am pretty anxious for this one since a Panamera has been a dream of mine since they first came out. It is tough to find a 4S with low enough miles in my price range.

carnaught

My poor 2024 HR-V is taking a beating here. In everyday life, it’s performance is more than adequate in highway and city usage, with mid 30’s city only mpg. It is tight and seems well built, not pretending to be anything it’s not.

qbrozen

@carnaught said:
My poor 2024 HR-V is taking a beating here. In everyday life, it’s performance is more than adequate in highway and city usage, with mid 30’s city only mpg. It is tight and seems well built, not pretending to be anything it’s not.

I guarantee you it can beat the snot out of my Suzuki. So you can put that feather in your cap. lol

corvette

I'd take a new HR-V over the hooptie 2007 Prius I had.

greg1288

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

SC tag renewal isn't too costly. However, the annual vehicle property tax can be an eye opener. I transferred the tag from the 06 TL to the 21 Arteon. Last year's registration/tax on the TL was $57. March this year the tag renewal was $530.00 for the Arteon. I was expecting around $350.00. It's a 4-year-old car and not worth that much. Sheesh. It is about $250 each for the 16 Q5 and 18 Passat. I don't know if there is a tax cap. It doesn't pay to have something nice.

One of the few good things about NY is that they have a flat registration fee based on weight. Maybe $75 a year average.

That is a benefit but offset by the $20-$30K annual combined property and state income taxes for the privilege of living in NY.

au1994

carnaught said:

My poor 2024 HR-V is taking a beating here. In everyday life, it’s performance is more than adequate in highway and city usage, with mid 30’s city only mpg. It is tight and seems well built, not pretending to be anything it’s not.

I happen to like them. If we had not gone the hand me down route for Jr, the HR-V was at the top of the list for him.

nyccarguy

greg1288 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

SC tag renewal isn't too costly. However, the annual vehicle property tax can be an eye opener. I transferred the tag from the 06 TL to the 21 Arteon. Last year's registration/tax on the TL was $57. March this year the tag renewal was $530.00 for the Arteon. I was expecting around $350.00. It's a 4-year-old car and not worth that much. Sheesh. It is about $250 each for the 16 Q5 and 18 Passat. I don't know if there is a tax cap. It doesn't pay to have something nice.

One of the few good things about NY is that they have a flat registration fee based on weight. Maybe $75 a year average.

That is a benefit but offset by the $20-$30K annual combined property and state income taxes for the privilege of living in NY.

I also forgot to mention this when I was telling my story about the Jeep dealer. I mentioned I drive approximately 20K miles per year and usually burn through factory warranties in less than 2 years. I also mentioned that I don't want another high MSRP, low payment vehicle because of how much I've had to shell out in the past few years in personal property taxes. His response: "Your business is in New York, right? why don't you just register it there?" I told him "besides the fact that it would be illegal to do so, insurance rates in NYC are sky high and most likely much more than what I'm paying to insure them in CT."

au1994

nyccarguy said:

greg1288 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

SC tag renewal isn't too costly. However, the annual vehicle property tax can be an eye opener. I transferred the tag from the 06 TL to the 21 Arteon. Last year's registration/tax on the TL was $57. March this year the tag renewal was $530.00 for the Arteon. I was expecting around $350.00. It's a 4-year-old car and not worth that much. Sheesh. It is about $250 each for the 16 Q5 and 18 Passat. I don't know if there is a tax cap. It doesn't pay to have something nice.

One of the few good things about NY is that they have a flat registration fee based on weight. Maybe $75 a year average.

That is a benefit but offset by the $20-$30K annual combined property and state income taxes for the privilege of living in NY.

I also forgot to mention this when I was telling my story about the Jeep dealer. I mentioned I drive approximately 20K miles per year and usually burn through factory warranties in less than 2 years. I also mentioned that I don't want another high MSRP, low payment vehicle because of how much I've had to shell out in the past few years in personal property taxes. His response: "Your business is in New York, right? why don't you just register it there?" I told him "besides the fact that it would be illegal to do so, insurance rates in NYC are sky high and most likely much more than what I'm paying to insure them in CT."

Sounds like this guy was a real Phi Beta Kappa

oldfarmer50

greg1288 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

SC tag renewal isn't too costly. However, the annual vehicle property tax can be an eye opener. I transferred the tag from the 06 TL to the 21 Arteon. Last year's registration/tax on the TL was $57. March this year the tag renewal was $530.00 for the Arteon. I was expecting around $350.00. It's a 4-year-old car and not worth that much. Sheesh. It is about $250 each for the 16 Q5 and 18 Passat. I don't know if there is a tax cap. It doesn't pay to have something nice.

One of the few good things about NY is that they have a flat registration fee based on weight. Maybe $75 a year average.

That is a benefit but offset by the $20-$30K annual combined property and state income taxes for the privilege of living in NY.

Yeah, like I said, NY has ONE good thing.😂

I do wish I was rich enough to have to pay $30k in taxes. My property taxes were under $6k and I got a $300 state refund.

laurasdada

qbrozen said:

@laurasdada said:

Gen 1 or 2?

Details...

2011. I’m not familiar with gens

Gen 1 is original Panamera, the hunchback. Gen 2 rounded things out a bit. Current Panamera is third gen.

If I was to replace the A7, gen 2 is where I'd be looking. And Macan. But I fear neither of those will be Goldilocks, Panamera too big, Macan too tall.

kyfdx

laurasdada said:

qbrozen said:

@laurasdada said:

Gen 1 or 2?

Details...

2011. I’m not familiar with gens

Gen 1 is original Panamera, the hunchback. Gen 2 rounded things out a bit. Current Panamera is third gen.

If I was to replace the A7, gen 2 is where I'd be looking. And Macan. But I fear neither of those will be Goldilocks, Panamera too big, Macan too tall.

Taycan GTS is the way to go...

laurasdada

kyfdx said:

laurasdada said:

qbrozen said:

@laurasdada said:

Gen 1 or 2?

Details...

2011. I’m not familiar with gens

Gen 1 is original Panamera, the hunchback. Gen 2 rounded things out a bit. Current Panamera is third gen.

If I was to replace the A7, gen 2 is where I'd be looking. And Macan. But I fear neither of those will be Goldilocks, Panamera too big, Macan too tall.

Taycan GTS is the way to go...

My tax refund will be just shy of that, about 6 figures too short! Actually, looks like I'm going to be writing a record setting (for me) check to the last 19 IRS employees, post-DOGE.

But if I am serious about an EV, perhaps I'd look at Taycan, Audi GT, Macan EV and Lucid. I was thinking of Caddy Lyriq, but, well GM... Lucid Air just intrigues me.

pensfan83

Too close for a patch and/or plug? Not leaking...yet

stickguy

Seems flat. Worth a try.

tjc78

I’d do it …2-3 cm over, no but I think there is enough meat there

laurasdada

pensfan83 said:

Too close for a patch and/or plug? Not leaking...yet

As someone about to invest in four expensive new Continental tires for his car, I wish I hadn't seen this...

nyccarguy

@tjc78 said:
I’d do it …2-3 cm over, no but I think there is enough meat there

+1 - I’d try to fix it or have it fixed

jmonroe1

pensfan83 said:

Too close for a patch and/or plug? Not leaking...yet

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I wouldn’t even question that. Just do it. Your question should be how do I find a roofer that lost a nail.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@pensfan83 said:
Too close for a patch and/or plug? Not leaking...yet

Without a doubt I’d be plugging that.

qbrozen

@laurasdada said:
Gen 1 is original Panamera, the hunchback. Gen 2 rounded things out a bit. Current Panamera is third gen.

If I was to replace the A7, gen 2 is where I'd be looking. And Macan. But I fear neither of those will be Goldilocks, Panamera too big, Macan too tall.

Wiki tells me gen 1 was up through 2015. This one threw me for a min because it appears to have a body kit on it. It looks pretty good. But, alas, no callback yet.

mjfloyd1

@qbrozen said:

@laurasdada said:
Gen 1 is original Panamera, the hunchback. Gen 2 rounded things out a bit. Current Panamera is third gen.

If I was to replace the A7, gen 2 is where I'd be looking. And Macan. But I fear neither of those will be Goldilocks, Panamera too big, Macan too tall.

Wiki tells me gen 1 was up through 2015. This one threw me for a min because it appears to have a body kit on it. It looks pretty good. But, alas, no callback yet.

White one in Indy? Oops I mean NC

qbrozen

NC.

Got a link to the Indy one?

qbrozen

I like this one, but they’ll need to come down at least 2500 off their “no haggle” price to be a consideration.
https://www.autosofchicago.com/pre-owned-cars/detail/2017-Jaguar-F-PACE/1262277

greg1288

oldfarmer50 said:

greg1288 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

sda said:

SC tag renewal isn't too costly. However, the annual vehicle property tax can be an eye opener. I transferred the tag from the 06 TL to the 21 Arteon. Last year's registration/tax on the TL was $57. March this year the tag renewal was $530.00 for the Arteon. I was expecting around $350.00. It's a 4-year-old car and not worth that much. Sheesh. It is about $250 each for the 16 Q5 and 18 Passat. I don't know if there is a tax cap. It doesn't pay to have something nice.

One of the few good things about NY is that they have a flat registration fee based on weight. Maybe $75 a year average.

That is a benefit but offset by the $20-$30K annual combined property and state income taxes for the privilege of living in NY.

Yeah, like I said, NY has ONE good thing.😂

I do wish I was rich enough to have to pay $30k in taxes. My property taxes were under $6k and I got a $300 state refund.

Here on Long Island I pay double that in property taxes and I get a senior and veterans discount. Most people I know pay more. State income tax is around 6% but goes up to 10%. Even people with incomes as little as $20K per year pay 5%. My income is modest but most mid to high income earners pay close to or around half of their income in taxes when including Federal, Sales, etc. and of course they always need more.

ab348

laurasdada said:

kyfdx said:

Taycan GTS is the way to go...

My tax refund will be just shy of that, about 6 figures too short! Actually, looks like I'm going to be writing a record setting (for me) check to the last 19 IRS employees, post-DOGE.

But if I am serious about an EV, perhaps I'd look at Taycan, Audi GT, Macan EV and Lucid. I was thinking of Caddy Lyriq, but, well GM... Lucid Air just intrigues me.

I'd get the Taycan just because it seems Porsche is leading the charge to bring white sidewalls back into style...

anonymousposts2025

@qbrozen said:

@anonymousposts2025 said:
We looked at a Panamera years ago, it was Gee’s dream car. Unfortunately, he couldn’t even sit in it, much less drive it. Beautiful cars though.

Why couldn’t he sit in it? Not dressed well enough? Ha.

Talked to … honestly no idea. I guess an internet person. We chatted for a while. He said he’d have the SM assign a salesperson who would call me and do a video walk around. Of course, being Friday afternoon, he wasn’t sure WHEN. So we’ll see. Honestly I am pretty anxious for this one since a Panamera has been a dream of mine since they first came out. It is tough to find a 4S with low enough miles in my price range.

Ha… he rarely deviates form his uniform of seasonally appropriate athletic gear. However, in this case, he is 6’6 and most of that height is in his legs. His knees were uncomfortably high and I believe the drivers door crushed them against the steering wheel.

mjfloyd1

@qbrozen said:
NC.

Got a link to the Indy one?

Faulty memory. I typed Indy and realized it was NC

This place usually has decent cars but almost always with accident on carfax

https://www.indyautoman.com/inventory?src=s&save=1&make[]=Porsche&model[]=Panamera

Different dealer - low miles but accident

https://www.carmel-motors.com/used-cars/2011-porsche-panamera-4s-WP0AB2A75BL062288?store=CarmelMotorsIndianapolis&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAArCiofU7Pt8wKnTcc5UrtdUy-2uxF&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv_m-BhC4ARIsAIqNeBu5M55ouI0T2dVdcTwUsN-nz_h_GK_mbNp0x9ujMKwGiyM_9cNOjn4aAhLmEALw_wcB

mjfloyd1

@ab348 said:
I'd get the Taycan just because it seems Porsche is leading the charge to bring white sidewalls back into style...

Those are the wheels not the tires. The wheels are 2 tone

au1994

Why does the Taycan have a Tubo logo on it?

laurasdada

Because it goes to 11.

mjfloyd1

@au1994 said:
Why does the Taycan have a Tubo logo on it?

No turbo on it but Porsche denotes higher performance vehicles with turbos as Turbo and Turbo S. They are just saying it is higher performance. Weird

au1994

mjfloyd1 said:

@au1994 said:

Why does the Taycan have a Tubo logo on it?

No turbo on it but Porsche denotes higher performance vehicles with turbos as Turbo and Turbo S. They are just saying it is higher performance. Weird

Got it, thanks. I would say that makes sense but…to me Turbo = ICE but what to I know.

jmonroe1

mjfloyd1 said:

@ab348 said:

I'd get the Taycan just because it seems Porsche is leading the charge to bring white sidewalls back into style...

Those are the wheels not the tires. The wheels are 2 tone

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Even worse. A good bit more to replace. The only thing that would fix those rims is deep pot holes.

jmonroe

nyccarguy

@au1994 said:
Got it, thanks. I would say that makes sense but…to me Turbo = ICE but what to I know.

To make things even more confusing, I am pretty sure that all ICE Porsches are turbocharged, but not all ICE Porsches are TURBOs.

nyccarguy

I tried to jump my Prelude to is afternoon after work and it was dead. I called AAA and the guy hooked up his battery pack to it and it fired right up. Took it for a spin around the block for about 20 minutes. Drives ok. No dash lights on like when I drove it the last time. It’s due for emissions inspection. I’m not sure what to do. Should I take it somewhere to diagnose and fix the oil leak 1st or get the emissions test done and then go get it fixed?

stickguy

seems like you stopped using it entirely. Or will it get any road time in the summer? At some point it is just going to be decaying and might want to consider moving it along.

nyccarguy

@stickguy said:
seems like you stopped using it entirely. Or will it get any road time in the summer? At some point it is just going to be decaying and might want to consider moving it along.

No. I plan on using it.

ab348

mjfloyd1 said:

Those are the wheels not the tires. The wheels are 2 tone

Gee… ya think?

tjc78

@nyccarguy said:

@stickguy said:
seems like you stopped using it entirely. Or will it get any road time in the summer? At some point it is just going to be decaying and might want to consider moving it along.

No. I plan on using it.

I’d get the oil leak fixed and then without any lights on it should get thru inspection pretty easily.

Also - it needs to be driven

corvette

I reserved a place in line for a Scout Traveler. Feels weird considering it's not supposed to enter production until 2027 (so will probably be a 2028 model), and I'll probably have at least a couple of other cars between now and then. I also suspect a well equipped model will be well north of the $60k (without incentives) base price, which will probably cause me to lose interest and ask for a refund of my deposit.

nyccarguy

@tjc78 said:

@nyccarguy said:

@stickguy said:
seems like you stopped using it entirely. Or will it get any road time in the summer? At some point it is just going to be decaying and might want to consider moving it along.

No. I plan on using it.

I’d get the oil leak fixed and then without any lights on it should get thru inspection pretty easily.

Also - it needs to be driven

Once I get the oil leak fixed it will be driven!

qbrozen

@anonymousposts2025 said:

@qbrozen said:

@anonymousposts2025 said:
We looked at a Panamera years ago, it was Gee’s dream car. Unfortunately, he couldn’t even sit in it, much less drive it. Beautiful cars though.

Why couldn’t he sit in it? Not dressed well enough? Ha.

Talked to … honestly no idea. I guess an internet person. We chatted for a while. He said he’d have the SM assign a salesperson who would call me and do a video walk around. Of course, being Friday afternoon, he wasn’t sure WHEN. So we’ll see. Honestly I am pretty anxious for this one since a Panamera has been a dream of mine since they first came out. It is tough to find a 4S with low enough miles in my price range.

Ha… he rarely deviates form his uniform of seasonally appropriate athletic gear. However, in this case, he is 6’6 and most of that height is in his legs. His knees were uncomfortably high and I believe the drivers door crushed them against the steering wheel.

In a Panamera? Sounds like the seat was broken. I’m convinced a 7-footer could fit fine in one.

corvette

Got Crutchfield and Amazon gift cards for my birthday... Ordered new speakers for the Mav through Crutchfield and some NVX sound deadening from Amazon.

jmonroe1

corvette said:

Got Crutchfield and Amazon gift cards for my birthday... Ordered new speakers for the Mav through Crutchfield and some NVX sound deadening from Amazon.

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Wait, let me see if I got this right. You’re going to make some high fidelity noise but you don’t want to hear it?

jmonroe

roadburner

A friend who was a BMW CCA board member told me that he is thinking about a Taycan.

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

@au1994 said:

Got it, thanks. I would say that makes sense but…to me Turbo = ICE but what to I know.

To make things even more confusing, I am pretty sure that all ICE Porsches are turbocharged, but not all ICE Porsches are TURBOs.

I think there are still some non-turbocharged 6-cylinder Porsches

mjfloyd1

@kyfdx said:
I think there are still some non-turbocharged 6-cylinder Porsches

911 GT3 and GT3 RS and other vehicles with 4.0 motor are NA

nyccarguy

@mjfloyd1 said:

@kyfdx said:
I think there are still some non-turbocharged 6-cylinder Porsches

911 GT3 and GT3 RS and other vehicles with 4.0 motor are NA

Right. I forgot about those!

benjaminh

kyfdx said:

Acura is going to have the ADX, which is an HR-V with a turbo and 190 hp. But, with a big bump in price, I'd expect

Looking at reviews and specs for the ADX I'm not impressed. The starting price with AWD and destination for the ADX is $38,350. Having lived with the ADX powertrain of Honda's 1.5 turbo/cvt with our CR-V, I can say that it's noisy and unrefined, which is what some reviewers are saying about the ADX. The rear doors in the ADX have hard plastics and no pocket behind the driver's seat. With the rear seats down cargo room in the ADX is only 55 cubic feet. The Subaru Outback premium with option package 15 lists for about $36k, and it has 75 feet of cargo room, power tailgate, fog lights, puddle lights for the front doors, padded rear doors rather than hard plastic, a better AWD system, etc. The Outback seems like a better vehicle for less money.

And I'm disappointed that starting with the ADX Acura is now phasing out Sirius/XM on all of its vehicles.

carnaught

Thanks to the supporters following the dissing of my HR-V. I do have a big negative about it:
the car has a clown horn. It’s actually embarrassing to toot🤨.