Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

Michaell

Yeah, we had a CX-7 for a few years. Dumped it before the 60K service, and I too was concerned about the longevity of the turbo.

The 3.6 NA Outback we swapped it for has been pretty reliable for the last 10+ years.

Had the wife in the Subaru today, and she commented how noisy it was compared to the Sportage she normally rides in. Of course, it's 10 years old, it's gonna have some squeaks and groans and rattles. But, she still likes the fact that the payment is $0 per month.

qbrozen

@nyccarguy said:
Did any of you guys see that guy on LH that scored the sub $300 payment on an $81K loaner or demo Silverado EV WT?

You know I did. Haha. But CA has so many crazy EV leases that don’t exist anywhere else. And that guy’s deal is pretty suspect being claimed as used but also new. Someone was really abusing the system from both ends.

nyccarguy

@qbrozen said:

@nyccarguy said:
Did any of you guys see that guy on LH that scored the sub $300 payment on an $81K loaner or demo Silverado EV WT?

You know I did. Haha. But CA has so many crazy EV leases that don’t exist anywhere else. And that guy’s deal is pretty suspect being claimed as used but also new. Someone was really abusing the system from both ends.

I didn’t see the guy was from CA.

nyccarguy

Happy car birthday to my beloved 2001 Honda Prelude Type SH! I took delivery of it on this day back in 2002.

explorerx4

Edmunds didn't have much luck with their CT.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/cybertruck-beats-fisker-ocean-as-edmunds-biggest-loss-ever-sold-for-just-8k/ar-AA1DIEvl?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=78a0a83fc4b448b9e75c720a9af168b1&ei=24

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Edmunds didn't have much luck with their CT.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/cybertruck-beats-fisker-ocean-as-edmunds-biggest-loss-ever-sold-for-just-8k/ar-AA1DIEvl?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=78a0a83fc4b448b9e75c720a9af168b1&ei=24

Kind of unfair to claim it’s their biggest loss ever. The thing got totaled after all.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
I think the point is, most other vehicles would not have had that high a repair cost and such a low salvage sale price.

corvette

Dang, I’d do a Silverado lease for $300 a month… I’d prefer my EV not to be that much of a barge, as well. Can’t imagine what it would cost to take on a road trip.

Speaking of which, filled up the Maverick today with my own money for the first time since December. I had a $100 Visa gift card that got me through until now since I’m dailying the Ariya (5400-ish miles on it now). No issues, but still glad I gave the Mav a shakedown before the annual pilgrimage to Omaha later this week.

ab348

nyccarguy said:

Did any of you guys see that guy on LH that scored the sub $300 payment on an $81K loaner or demo Silverado EV WT?

Emme Hall from Edmunds did a comparo of the Silverado EV vs the F-150 Lightning. I learned a lot about the Silverado EV that I didn't know. It is a unibody EV like the other GM EVs such as the Cadillac Lyriq and has little in common with the gas Chevy trucks, whereas the F-150 is an electrified Ford pickup. The Chevy has a massive battery and is a massive vehicle - 146" WB, and weighs around 9000 lbs.!

https://youtu.be/8IXKHuqCv6o?si=k-DTWw1RGaDC-lBx

(Spoiler alert: she much preferred the Ford)

jmonroe1

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
I think the point is, most other vehicles would not have had that high a repair cost and such a low salvage sale price.

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What are the chances they cherry-picked to make sure the poor Tesla looked bad?

jmonroe

corvette

@ab348 - I didn't realize the Silverado EV was unibody. It doesn't make a lot of sense because it looks like they ended up with a heavier vehicle.

kyfdx

jmonroe1 said:

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
I think the point is, most other vehicles would not have had that high a repair cost and such a low salvage sale price.

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What are the chances they cherry-picked to make sure the poor Tesla looked bad?

jmonroe

They didn't cherry pick. Edmunds owned the Tesla. They reported on their experience, after it was damaged.

jmonroe1

kyfdx said:

jmonroe1 said:

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
I think the point is, most other vehicles would not have had that high a repair cost and such a low salvage sale price.

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What are the chances they cherry-picked to make sure the poor Tesla looked bad?

jmonroe

They didn't cherry pick. Edmunds owned the Tesla. They reported on their experience, after it was damaged.

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I guess with all the problems Edmunds had with their cyber truck they didn’t have to because Tesla made it easy for them but it could have looked like they were piling on. If Edmunds with all their pull couldn’t get Tesla to move any faster about getting a quote and possible repair, I wouldn’t want to be the everyday cyber truck owner.

If GM or Ford or anyone else acted like that they’d be crucified. The owners arrogance must be a prerequisite for employment at their stores.

jmonroe

sda

I'm confused, shocking. Was the Tesla insured? I would think they would get a settlement though it would still be a huge loss. But $8k?

nyccarguy

@Michaell & @kyfdx - in your humblest of opinions, which Bronco Sport 4WD has the best lease program (if any) in 10956? Thanks!

explorerx4

@graphicguy,
BenzandBowties latest video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIl27rNSeyM

kyfdx

nyccarguy said:

@Michaell & @kyfdx - in your humblest of opinions, which Bronco Sport 4WD has the best lease program (if any) in 10956? Thanks!

Big Bend trim has the best residuals.

2024 models have lower APR, but also lower residuals, compared to 2025

None of them have great programs

stickguy

what about an escape? Might be deals on those since they are going away next year.

also, keep in mind only the Badlands Bronco sport has the 2.0l. the rest have the 1.5 3 banger.

They probably also don't lease well, but can get a maverick instead! same up front, 27" longer out back.

nyccarguy

@stickguy said:
what about an escape? Might be deals on those since they are going away next year.

also, keep in mind only the Badlands Bronco sport has the 2.0l. the rest have the 1.5 3 banger.

They probably also don't lease well, but can get a maverick instead! same up front, 27" longer out back.

It’s for my sister - she’s not going for a pickup truck.

corvette

The body style of an Escape or Bronco Sport is probably more appropriate for my use case, but the availability of the 2.0T on all trims and my willingness to use the bed in lieu of a hatchback made the Maverick an easy choice. Good luck with your sister's search, @nyccarguy !

stickguy

Ah, I thought this was for you.

explorerx4

The dealer where I bought my last couple of vehicles has some good discounts on Bronco Sport's.
https://www.mikebassford.net/new-vehicles/?_dFR[in_transit_filter][0]=On%20Lot&_dFR[make][0]=Ford&_dFR[model][0]=Bronco%20Sport&_dFR[type][0]=New

graphicguy

explorerx4 said:

@graphicguy,
BenzandBowties latest video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIl27rNSeyM

Thanks. He's a cool guy. Obviously successful.

I think if I were him I'd have let some of the sales people who work for him to hit the bricks, as some are just plain disrespectful towards him.

But, if I were ever in the market for a Benz, I'd drop him a line.

28firefighter

I’ve DMed back and forth with him a bit and he’s a good guy. I think a lot of the stuff with his sales folks is schtick.

jmonroe1

28firefighter said:

I’ve DMed back and forth with him a bit and he’s a good guy. I think a lot of the stuff with his sales folks is schtick.

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Really?

jmonroe

breld

Just had a quick trip to Florida for work. Flew to Tampa and then had to drive down to the Sarasota area…had a Nissan Rogue for a rental and was pleasantly surprised by how nice it was. I assume it has the 3-cylinder turbo…throttle was a little touchy on take-off, but other than that it scooted around nicely.

This was a close second choice for my son 4 years ago, when he ended up with the Tiguan. I’d say the Tiguan is still a little nicer, but this would have been a fine choice. Then again, it was a n/a 4 cylinder at the time.

And speaking of the Tiguan, we just had to get new tires put on it. I went with Goodyear Weatherready 2’s, as he is starting a new job in the Fall back here in Denver. I figured if he had more requirements to commute, even in poor weather, may as well get some tires that were up to the task.

kyfdx

Speaking of tires: Getting new shoes for the Cayman. A couple of them are 14 years old..

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. Very cheap in 19" size.

corvette

@breld - congrats to your son on the new job! The Goodyears performed extremely well in TR's comparison test. I'll definitely consider them when replacing the Maverick's tires this fall. Sad to see two out of the three Michelins they tested in the bottom half of the combined ranking of 20.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=336

explorerx4

Strange ranking. CC2 had positive comments and results but a low ranking.

sda

@corvette said:
@breld - congrats to your son on the new job! The Goodyears performed extremely well in TR's comparison test. I'll definitely consider them when replacing the Maverick's tires this fall. Sad to see two out of the three Michelins they tested in the bottom half of the combined ranking of 20.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=336

I read that too. I may consider the GY Weather 2 for the Arteon. I have GY Comfort Drive ( I think that's the name, car is with my daughter) on the Passat and they perform well.

pensfan83

I'm in Florida as well, albeit near Fort Lauderdale, for a conference and I'm missing all the fun back home. A pretty severe storm came threw the area knocking out power to close to 500K homes. My oldest son said it went out yesterday around 5:00PM and hasn't been on since. It could supposedly take 5-7 days before full restoration occurs for some areas so I'll be curious to see where we land on that spectrum.

stickguy

Car and driver (I still get it paper copy) just had a test of the snowflake rated all seasons. The Pirelli version won. Followed by the Michelin.

ab348

When you see ratings and ranking that far apart for the same tire from different sources, you have to figure something is up. Curious.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

When you see ratings and ranking that far apart for the same tire from different sources, you have to figure something is up. Curious.

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It could be the bourbon/wine samples sent along with the tires from the various manufacturers.

jmonroe

stickguy

It’s actually what you prioritize.

explorerx4

Very little difference in the scores for the first 8 tires.

stickguy

Personal needs has to come into play when you are rating tires on such different categories. Always a trade off.

kyfdx

pensfan83 said:

I'm in Florida as well, albeit near Fort Lauderdale, for a conference and I'm missing all the fun back home. A pretty severe storm came threw the area knocking out power to close to 500K homes. My oldest son said it went out yesterday around 5:00PM and hasn't been on since. It could supposedly take 5-7 days before full restoration occurs for some areas so I'll be curious to see where we land on that spectrum.

We were in Fort Lauderdale, last week.

3 Sons Brewing in Dania Beach is excellent!

roadburner

stickguy said:

Car and driver (I still get it paper copy) just had a test of the snowflake rated all seasons. The Pirelli version won. Followed by the Michelin.

I wish that C/D had tested UHP all-seasons; I don't own anything that I'd put the tested tires on.

laurasdada

So far enjoying the Conti DWS06+ on the A7; quite, smooth and were rock-solid in the recent rain storm.
Still quite new, of course.

stickguy

I am glad they tested the snowflakes. That is what I am probably putting on the Acura when it is time. but hopefully not for a few more years.

corvette

I don't need the 3PMS all-seasons, but will consider them if they do everything else well. Consumer Reports hasn't even tested the Goodyear Weatherready 2 yet, but they like the CrossClimates and the Vredestein HiTrac.

Honestly, even a mediocre new tire probably feels and performs much better than a (once) really good tire that's more than half worn.

stickguy

our RDX came with Contis that are OK but nothing special as far as I can tell. at 5 YO and about 28K on them they still have decent tread but certainly haven't gotten better. so any good quality new tire is going to seem great most likely!

corvette

Drove the Maverick about 240 miles to Champaign. I'll drive the rest of the way to Omaha tomorrow for the annual gathering. At a cruising speed of around 80, the Ariya would have probably required two twenty-minute-plus 10-80% fast charging stops to make it here, but the Ford app says my gas tank is still 52% full (started with a full tank).

kyfdx

corvette said:

Drove the Maverick about 240 miles to Champaign. I'll drive the rest of the way to Omaha tomorrow for the annual gathering. At a cruising speed of around 80, the Ariya would have probably required two twenty-minute-plus 10-80% fast charging stops to make it here, but the Ford app says my gas tank is still 52% full (started with a full tank).

Come back with some investment recommendations!

nyccarguy

corvette said:

Drove the Maverick about 240 miles to Champaign. I'll drive the rest of the way to Omaha tomorrow for the annual gathering. At a cruising speed of around 80, the Ariya would have probably required two twenty-minute-plus 10-80% fast charging stops to make it here, but the Ford app says my gas tank is still 52% full (started with a full tank).

A long and lonesome highway east of Omaha?

au1994

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:

Drove the Maverick about 240 miles to Champaign. I'll drive the rest of the way to Omaha tomorrow for the annual gathering. At a cruising speed of around 80, the Ariya would have probably required two twenty-minute-plus 10-80% fast charging stops to make it here, but the Ford app says my gas tank is still 52% full (started with a full tank).

A long and lonesome highway east of Omaha?

Great song!

oldfarmer50

laurasdada said:

So far enjoying the Conti DWS06+ on the A7; quite, smooth and were rock-solid in the recent rain storm.
Still quite new, of course.

I’m quite disappointed in my Pilot Sport 4 AS. No matter how hard I take corners they refuse to squeal.😂👍

oldfarmer50

kyfdx said:

corvette said:

Drove the Maverick about 240 miles to Champaign. I'll drive the rest of the way to Omaha tomorrow for the annual gathering. At a cruising speed of around 80, the Ariya would have probably required two twenty-minute-plus 10-80% fast charging stops to make it here, but the Ford app says my gas tank is still 52% full (started with a full tank).

Come back with some investment recommendations!

I told you:

kyfdx

oldfarmer50 said:

laurasdada said:

So far enjoying the Conti DWS06+ on the A7; quite, smooth and were rock-solid in the recent rain storm.
Still quite new, of course.

I’m quite disappointed in my Pilot Sport 4 AS. No matter how hard I take corners they refuse to squeal.😂👍

Mine are worn out..