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  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Gary, thanks for this info, but this $600-700 million is additional money that was found but the UK trustee does not want to release. The 72% that we are suppose to get is already in the control of the MF Global appointed trustee, Giddens. In fact, he said early in the week that he has an additional 12% but he is holding this for the time being to make sure everyone is paid. Thus, as it stands now there is only about 16% that is missing.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Hoping you have a Joyous Christmas with family and friends. Putting the trials of life behind you, even if just for a few days. A new year is just around the corner. I am hoping it will be the year that excessive greed is exposed for what it is in this country.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Thank you so much for your good wishes Gary. I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a healthy, Happy 2012. Even though we don't all have the same political philosophy, we are all friends here and wish each other nothing but the best.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Well this is no real surprise when you look at all the corruption in the EPA with the new Green agenda. Think Solyndra?

    During two days of recent congressional hearings into how as much as $1.2 billion disappeared from MF Global customer accounts, the chief operating officer of the imploding investment firm responded again and again that he did not know.

    Yet as the House and Senate interrogated Bradley I. Abelow and other top executives at MF Global Holdings Ltd., lawmakers did not mention Mr. Abelow’s role as a financial adviser for the Environmental Protection Agency, which as of Tuesday listed him as the chairman of its financial advisory board.

    Even as he finds himself the public face of a bankruptcy and admitted to lawmakers that he had no idea how client funds disappeared, Congress and the administration have voiced no public concern about Mr. Abelow’s role advising the $8.6 billion government agency on its finances.

    “EPA relying on Wall Street for financial guidance is like the blind leading the blind,” said Jeff Ruch, president of Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, a nonprofit environmental advocacy group based in Washington.


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/27/mf-global-chief-missing-12b-fina- ncial-adviser-epa/
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    edited December 2011
    Makes perfect sense to me. If a few billion disappears from the EPA slush fund the taxpayers just replace it so they really don't need an advisor who actually knows anything.

    Apparently no one thinks it is strange that the EPA has so much money that they don't know what to do with it, and have to pay some crook with a bad memory to tell them how it spend/invest it. How about giving the excess back to the taxpayers? :confuse:

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  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Happy New Year to everyone.

    2011 was a mess. Look where the markets ended up... and worse, consider the rollercoaster ride to get essentially nowhere. Good riddance to 2011.

    Let's just hope and pray for a significantly improved economy in 2012.

    It's already shaping up to be a potential mess with our upcoming Presidential election, and very ominous global political and military developments.

    For me, I'm predicting that I invest in real estate, but I am not sure quite yet. Still have homework to do, but I received a text message this week from a friend who knows about some upcoming property listings that could prove to be interesting.

    Good luck to all. Have a boatload of fun!

    TM
  • ljflxljflx Member Posts: 4,690
    Happy New year to everyone.

    I've been swamped with work and haven't been around much lately. Business is strong but our receivables grew by $1.2mln in December 2012 vs 2011. This is due to growth but even in good growth years we've had only minimal growth in receivables. We bill like a magazine, in advance of services and about 80% of our receivables are for services starting in January and February. I mention all this not to talk about my business but to give you an impression of the economy, especially the media side. When people speed up payments to us the following year is usually slower. They in effect are looking for the tax deduction in the current year. When they delay payment into January (our bills are generally annual bills for a year of service) they are seeing the following year as the better economic year and want the tax deduction then. In media that will make a lot of sense because its a presedential election year and advertising will be strong. Now the question is will the media business be indicative of the broader economy?

    Tag - absolutely hate my droid phone. 3 out of 10 times it freezes on start up causing me to take the case apart, take out the battery and then put it back in and this almost always seems to happen at the worst possible time. Now in the last month or so it restarts itself after I power it off. A few times this has caused me to have a dead phone when I most needed it. I was ready to slam it against a fire hydrant when this recently happened to me in NYC. It also silences my rings on its own causing me to miss some important phone calls. I'm getting rid of it this week.
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    Happy New Year and Best Wishes to everyone !! Here's hoping 2012 will be a great year for all of us !

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  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Indeed, Happy New Year and the Best of Health and Prosperity to All. :shades:

    Len, it might be a transition year in 2012 but I believe it will be 2% better than this year!! :blush:

    Regards,
    OW
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Len, my Google android (G1) had the same symptoms as yours the past 6-12 months. I got rid of it on Dec. 22 and purchased a brand new iPhone4S. I love it. The camera on it alone is worth the price.

    I also want to wish all of you a very healthy, happy, and prosperous 2012. Let's hope and pray for a more peaceful world.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    edited December 2011
    Len,

    Sounds like things are going well for you, and that is really good to hear.

    Now the question is will the media business be indicative of the broader economy?

    I have generally been one who holds the belief that advertising-related business is a strong barometer for the broader general economy... to the point that I have been able, without fail so far, to predict recessions based upon my business revenues. It is interesting to note that during the point in time during 2011 that there were concerns about a recession, my revenues took a temporary dip, and I posted here that a recession was a possibility... however, the revenues then suddenly skyrocketed to levels not seen in a while, and I knew that a recession was simply not going to happen during the time in question. So far, revenues continue to be very healthy, and I have no concerns about a recession whatsoever at this time.

    I think it is not possible to make a dependable prediction about the economy for 2012, other than to say that I definitely expect it to be better than 2011, but the truth is that there are a number of ominous wildcards that could throw a monkey wrench into the gears. 2011 had a number of them, and it is reasonable to expect that 2012 could have some as well. That said, I am more optimistic than I was, and I am really looking forward to some real estate investments... I think they will be a rewarding and fun experience. I expect to purchase property (or properties) somewhere between a half million and 2 million dollars to start. Of course, I might discover that my expectations are not realistic, but I will keep you posted.

    absolutely hate my droid phone.

    I don't know much about your particular droid phone, but I've heard that some folks have issues, but others seem to love 'em. Are you talking about a Verizon phone? ... an AT&T phone?

    My Android phone is a (Sprint) HTC EVO 4G, and quite honestly, it has been the most amazing and reliable phone I have ever owned (it replaced my two prior iPhones), and almost all reports about the EVO 4G have been nothing short of stellar. The EVO 4G is now getting a little long in the tooth, but still has bragging rights as one of the best Android phones ever made, and still holds its own with some of the best of them. It easily holds its own against the iPhone, and its camera is incredible as well. In fact, in some ways, it surpasses the iPhone.

    However, in spite of all of that... if the product rumors are true, I will most likely buy an iPhone 5 when it finally comes out. It will be the one to win me over... and I also anticipate making a complete conversion to Apple computers from my current Windows platform. The bottom line is that I expect to own a couple of new Apple computers, an iPad3, as well as an iPhone5 by the end of 2012.

    So far, both my kids are loving their new iPhone 4s Christmas gifts, and since they already each have a MacBook Pro, they are now very happy Apple campers.

    But, FWIW, I sat next to a video game engineer on one of my flights, and he said that their preliminary peeks at Windows 8 indicate that Microsoft has a VERY good product in the works. He was very positive about Windows 8.

    Anyway... Time to go party (although I hate to admit I am bush-whacked from the holiday traveling, and I am not really at 100%). Happy New Year once again to you and all! :)

    TM
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Hi Gang

    I guess a new group of optimistic people are starting the new year off in style....This is what `dreams` are made of....Tony ps Here around the Charleston area, there are so many non descriptive small houses for sale that it made me wonder how in the world does anyone value them? and further they are everywhere I go.....Makes me wonder if we as a nation will ever get out from under the backlog?and even further people keep dying so that make for even more problems.....A shame...Tony
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,571
    What is the weather like in Charleston?

    Always thought we might move to SC, when we retire...

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  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Right this minute it is frigid...On the coast it is a bit warmer due to the ocean.....

    The Charleston area has alot to offer, so I think you would fit right in, as so many other people have....There is something for everyone, you just have to search for what you want.....Tony
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Eastman Kodak files for Chapter 11....

    Eastman Kodak Co. is preparing to seek bankruptcy protection in the coming weeks, people familiar with the matter said, a move that would cap a stunning comedown for a company that once ranked among America's corporate titans.

    The 131-year-old company is still making last-ditch efforts to sell off some of its patent portfolio and could avoid Chapter 11 if it succeeds, one of the people said.

    The company, for instance, invented the digital camera—in 1975—but never managed to capitalize on the new technology.


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203471004577140841495542810.html?m- od=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    In a chateau on the South of France.

    "... On October 15, two weeks before MF Global filed for bankruptcy, Corzine and his wife, Sharon Elghanayan, were at a birthday party in Paris talking about a château they were about to buy in the South of France. 'It's not in Cap Ferrat,' one person recalls Elghanayan saying, perhaps to mitigate the extravagance. 'To buy any decent château is at least a couple of million euros,' explains another person who was at the party, 'and that is before the renovation with the air-conditioning and the new kitchen. Sharon was very excited. She said she was flying down there on Monday morning.'"

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/01/05/144743370/report-shortly-before-m- f-global-collapse-corzine-was-ch-teau-shopping?ft=1&f=1001
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Gary,

    I believe you are correct. I believe I own a portion of this chateau.

    It now looks like I will get the 72% either tomorrow or early next week. This is what the CME folks told me yesterday.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    We are still hoping you get back what is yours. Every headline about that swine reminds me of you getting taken. It does not mean as much when it is people you have no connection with.

    The arrogance of people like that is astounding. No thought whatsoever of who they may have destroyed.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Your concern (and others here) about my situation is greatly appreciated.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Charlie I`m with Gary on this.....The last couple of weeks I have been changing banks and also thinking of putting more with Scottrade, due to a number of charges and mistakes that Wells Fargo has made--- as they assimilated Wachovia....I keep thinking of your experience and trying to be doubly careful on just what I do...I appreciate you sharing this mis-fortune, and I think you have done everyone a `service`....

    It does seem to me that we are all getting closer to `The Wild West` with the different government departments just not doing their jobs, and we citizens not being aware of that until it is too late...Tony
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Thanks Tony! It has been an incredible nightmare for me and my family members, but I finally do see the light at the end of the tunnel.

    At least my AAPL stock is doing awesome once again.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    edited January 2012
    At least my AAPL stock is doing awesome once again.

    Later this month, I expect APPL will announce more amazing financial numbers, and the stock will probably hit $450 before too long.

    BTW, I had a meeting today with my realtor friend, and we have uncovered a couple of properties that are now available for HALF of what they sold for previously. I will be taking a look at them on Monday, next week, and I might make an offer.

    At some point, the properties ought to appreciate in value, and in the meantime, I will make rental income every month regardless. It's a bit exciting... I've never owned rental property before.

    TM
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,700
    >looks like I will get the 72% either tomorrow

    Good luck and hope you get 100% back before too long!

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  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    What I look at in this market is replacement cost. Most of the loss I am seeing in CA is the land value. Land is a fixed quantity so it may fluctuate with the economy. Building costs are sky rocketing as building material prices are tied to inflation. CA labor is cheap because illegals are welcomed in and contractors hire them for cash or sub contract is the term used. No SS, MC, Workman's Comp to pay. Legitimate contractors tell me they have to bid jobs at 1/3rd what they were getting in 2006. Many are doing little odd jobs and remodels. Around me lots that were going for $400k in 2007 are now sitting unsold for $150k. These are great view lots on paved streets with underground utilities. One subdivision has 56 lots and the bank now owns it. It gets my adrenaline pumping thinking about building a custom home on one of them. I don't think you can build yet for what you can buy a home for. Buying a bank owned may get you a decent ROI. Just don't rent to a Section8.
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    edited January 2012
    Legitimate contractors tell me they have to bid jobs at 1/3rd what they were getting in 2006. Many are doing little odd jobs and remodels.

    I am in the middle of a complete and total re-do of my landscaping. I'm talking the whole nine yards. Fountains, custom fire pit, decking, new driveway, built-in Fire Magic barbeque and outdoor kitchen, sports area (basketball & outdoor ping-pong), all-new pavers, all-new irrigation and drains, outdoor lighting, hot tub, and over a dozen new palm trees and hundreds of new plants, and even a new entry.

    My contractor is doing all this for a mere fraction of what others bid, and so much less than what I expected, and he is doing the best job I have ever seen on any project I've ever done, even compared to the large estate expansion project I did several years ago in Northern California, where I used to live.

    It's amazing what can be purchased right now with regards to property and construction projects. This is undoubtedly a time in history that offers us some of the very best opportunities we've seen in a very, very long time. It's silly to not take advantage of it.

    As far as the "rental" property that I am considering buying... I think that the caliber of renter here is fairly good, and there are also students that attend Pepperdine University here in Malibu. It's a terrific private Christian college, and generally the parents of those students are very well off. They can afford to have their children rent in local private housing, as opposed to on-campus housing. That means that there is even greater demand for rental units, especially nice condos. like I am considering buying as the investment. The rental history is very healthy, and my realtor friend is also a property manager, so I can pay him a small percentage and make sure the property is rented, without me worrying about it. All I would have to do is receive the monthly rent check. What's wrong with that? ;)

    TM
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    If ROI is good, I don't think you can go wrong with Real Estate. Good luck and enjoy your new landscaping. That is one of my pleasures of home ownership, is a nice yard and place to relax and BBQ with friends and family.
  • circlewcirclew Member Posts: 8,666
    Be careful of the renters...no college kids or any loss in the market will be 'childs play' compared to the damaged they can do to rental property!

    Regards,
    OW
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Be careful of the renters...no college kids or any loss in the market will be 'childs play' compared to the damaged they can do to rental property!

    That is a big concern for me, and I have discussed this. I am told that the security deposit is quite large, and the property would be insured. Anything that goes waaaay beyond normal renter's damage would fall into a criminal category, such as vandalism/destruction of private property, and could result in legal action against the renter. Additionally, I would hope the property manager knows how to screen potential renters, and make a good choice.

    That said, there is always some level of risk with investments, even with the stock market... as we all know. ;)

    TM
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    no college kids or any loss in the market will be 'childs play' compared to the damaged they can do to rental property!

    There was an article in the WSJ recently about college kids renting large bank owned homes. It was cheaper for them to go in on a 5 bedroom house than it was to live in the dorms.

    IIRC, they said that the "partying" was pretty much non-existent as they spent too much time commuting to the campus and that the house was for sleeping.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    The rental history is very healthy, and my realtor friend is also a property manager, so I can pay him a small percentage and make sure the property is rented, without me worrying about it. All I would have to do is receive the monthly rent check. What's wrong with that?

    Wow TM! I envy you. It seems as if you have it all figured out nicely. Your new venture into rental property sounds exciting and potentially very rewarding. I wish you great success.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    How old are the units?? Seems like a very good play for you, as you get the depreciation, and interest deduction, so the funds may be tax free for a while as far as you are concerned...Now if they are old and in need of constant repairs, maybe you could buy them even cheaper..

    I think your re-do of the garden etc is going to give you alot of pleasure...Good luck with it Tony
  • slorenzenslorenzen Member Posts: 694
    “Jobs offshoring, financial deregulation, and ten years of wars have severely damaged the US economy and the economic prospects of 90% of the American population. The signs are everywhere in front of our eyes. They are in the income distribution data, the BLS jobs data, the Census data, the poverty figures, and the high number of food stamp recipients.”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/

    I'd like to hear feedback from all y'all. I respect your opinions...
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    I wonder what my opinion is worth, after reading the article....Never the less here it is `` There are just too many opinions backed by faulty statistics, made available by the `net`....Our economy is much better than it is reported...All you need do is go to a modern grocery store and look around.....or drive someplace, like apparently everyone else is doing at the same time..``

    I do wonder how the banking industry values a particular house? particularly one I see no redeeming features in.....The thing is that our country is just so much larger than an individual can comprehend. There are answers for all these questions ...

    Tony
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    edited January 2012
    Our economy is much better than it is reported.

    I respectfully disagree with that. Although I do know that there are reporters that suggest it is worse than it is, I think the overall concensus of reporters is actually more optimistic than the economy truly is.

    For example, the unemployment number is sooooo misleading. If you were to take into consideration the people that can only get partial employment of part-time work, then that would paint an entirely different picture. But, because partial employment isn't considered unemployment for obvious reasons, the true picture is compromised. Many of those people need full-time jobs, but can only get part-time jobs, but they are not counted as unemployed... there ought to be an UNDER-employed statistic, because that would tell a more realistic story about the state of our economy with regards to the jobs picture. I believe the underemployed reality is more like 15% to 20%. That is nothing even close to a healthy economy.

    So, that's one reason I think the economy is not better than reported. Another is the level of hunger in our country. It is much too high for the United States of America, that's for sure. And, you don't see that being reported much either. Additionally, all the reports about our health care are more optimisitc than the truth. Further, our country is not the world leader in education, as it should be. Also, our infrastructure is eroded. The overall state of this economy is actually worse than reported, from what I can tell.

    I believe that many folks have become almost too accepting of a mediocre economy, and I think we would be shocked to see what a truly healthy and vibrant economy looks like.

    I would especially be shocked to see our representatives in Washington stop wasting all our tax dollars, and get this country moving in the right direction for the benefit of the taxpaying legal citizens.

    TM
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I think the picture of the economy is different in different parts of the USA. You and I are in an area with a huge unemployment problem. A state government that does its best to run off business. For those of US that have a good job or retirement things are pretty good. For those who cannot find a job it may be awful. I deal with people that come to our church looking for help every week. Most need way more than we have to offer. We give out food vouchers or maybe a gas voucher. Most are behind on their rent or have been evicted. So many here in San Diego are far from even having their basic needs met. All the panhandlers remind me of Tijuana back in the 1950s. We got hit up twice in Von's parking lot today.
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Hi Tag

    On the un employment, you may be right to a degree, but the other side is there are so so many people who are `scamming` the system.

    I personally know of two smart men who were `bought out` and paid many hundreds of thousands of dollars....They got on un-employment, and stayed there for more than two years....These guys are able people, and knew what they were doing.....They both recently went back to work doing what they knew how to do, in the same industry....

    I guess we both see different situation where we live, and call it like we `see` it...I`m in full agreement about our elected leaders, and further believe the country could be oh so much better if they would do what any logical person would think to be `right` ..Hopefully a better future is in store .....As to the stock market it is just too rigged for me, and I have to keep an eye on everything every day and I am tired of it Tony
  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Hi Tony,

    I enjoy your perspective, but let's be frank that there's just no way our economy is even close to running on all cylinders when there is so much corruption at all levels.

    TM
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    I have seen a couple of those people as well that just sat around on the 99 week Obama vacation package. I thought it was a poor way to stimulate the country. An FDR style works program would have gotten a lot of them off their duff. You want to eat, well we got a National Forest that needs some brush cleared. I look at the cool buildings constructed by the WPA and wonder if Americans today are capable of such work.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    Hayman Capital exec reveals conversation he had with senior Obama administration official last fall Thinking the gold market has seen its best days? Not a chance, if the Fed and the Washington pathocrats get their way.

    Speaking at AmeriCatalyst 2011, in November, hedge fund manager extraordinaire Kyle Bass of Hayman Capital Management LP told attendees he was given one of the strategies for reviving a dying U.S. economy. It involves devaluing the U.S. dollar to affect renewed export demand.

    No surprise there, really, as the playbook for mature economies, strapped with bizarre levels of public and private debt, deficits and stagnant employment, always opt for trashing the currency to make good on debt promises.


    http://www.blanchardonline.com/investing-news-blog/econ.php?article=3875&title=T- he_plan_is_to_kill_the_dollar%2C_hedge-fund_star_Kyle_Bass_confirms
  • anthonypanthonyp Member Posts: 1,860
    Well it is a bright sunny morning here an the east coast, and I certainly agree with you.....Fully agree I might add.....Tony ps many years ago you sent a picture when you were living North......How about a shot of just your view? Tony
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,528
    A gold pumper site predicting doom for the dollar? Say it aint so! ;)
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    That is the problem with all "predictions"of this type, including the various guys pumping individual stocks. You never know if they are on the level or just trying to improve their own lot...at your expense.

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  • tagmantagman Member Posts: 8,441
    Tony, in the near future I will follow up on your request, and post a couple views from my property, and maybe even add a pic from the beach. Be patient with me, and I will post them. But be warned... you will want to come visit. ;)

    TM
  • ljflxljflx Member Posts: 4,690
    edited January 2012
    Is the sleeping giant awakening? A sexy smart phone, a sexy windows 8 operating system and a like tablet along with the XBOX supremacy and improvements may do the trick. Richt now the technos love the new smart phone. I may put a little side bet on Microsoft.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/technology/microsoft-defying-image-has-a-desig- - - n-gem-in-windows-phone.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper

    I love stocks this year but the pre-requisite of a 20-25% gain is Europe. If the Europeans get things under control I expect as much as 25% gains for the year with a 15K+ Dow by year end.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    SNB chief quits over currency scandal
    REUTERS — 16 MINUTES AGO

    By Catherine Bosley and Caroline Copley

    BERNE (Reuters) - Swiss central bank chief Philipp Hildebrand resigned on Monday in the face of growing criticism of a controversial currency trade made by his wife in August.

    His resignation came as he prepared to face Swiss parliamentarians in the aftermath of the scandal, and as the bank employee sacked for leaking news of the trade was reportedly committed to a psychiatric clinic after a suicide attempt.

    Hildebrand's wife Kashya, a former hedge fund trader who now runs a Zurich art gallery, bought 400,000 Swiss francs($418,000) worth of dollars on August 15, three weeks before her husband oversaw steps to cap the rise of the franc.


    It is a World wide epidemic of Greed and corruption.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,528
    No ethics from bank execs and hedge funders? I find this hard to believe! :shades:

    There's an entire class of people out there who need to be reviewed for a case of French justice, and they always tend to hover around the FIRE industries, along with perhaps pharma, corporate food, and defense contracting.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Hi Len! Since I watch CNBC quite a lot during the day, I couldn't help but see that Netflix has jumped up nicely from the lows? Could Netflix be a buy now?

    Btw, I heard from my dealer that the next generation LS will be out early in 2013 as a 2014 model year. I am seriously considering diving in and buying this next generation LS if I ever get my money back from MF Global. I wonder if the Detroit Auto Show will have any glimpses on the next LS. My son-in-law and I will be visiting the show on the weekend of January 14.

    PS...AAPL looks real good now.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    This should be good for stockholders of Apple. No bailing out, killing the price before 2016.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Tim Cook could well end up being the highest paid CEO in America in 2011, after Apple Inc. granted him a million restricted stock units last August for taking the reins shortly before cofounder Steve Jobs died.

    An Associated Press review of a securities filing shows Cook's pay package was valued at $378 million. The vast majority came in a grant of a million restricted stock units worth $376 million at the time. Half of the stock units will vest in August 2016, the other half in August 2021.
  • cyclone4cyclone4 Member Posts: 2,302
    Yes, I like this pay package.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    It makes sense to give stock with restrictions. A real incentive to make the company better. Not just drain the till and leave. Too bad all BODs are not that wise.
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