Hyundai Genesis Sedan 2009+

miklo

When I got my Genesis up to 172 mph I noticed a bad drift to the left,this aftermarket product is supposed to help me with this problem.Im sure it works as good as the rest of the after market products I have already installed on my Genesis.

MIKLO

stephen987

*troll alert*

fedlawman

allmet33

172 mph??? I'm highly skeptical of that speed since the Challenger SRT8 is capable of 179 off the showroom floor. You sure you didn't mean 172 kph??? :confuse:

tjc78

I think he was just making fun of the spoiler! I don't think the Genesis will do that kind of speed. Check out the pic... a magazine was having some fun with a V8 on the autobahn. Or course as a goof I texted it to my GF who starting freaking out thinking I was really that crazy!

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allmet33

I really hope that was the case. Why make fun of it though, just because it's something he may not add to his car? A lot of parts are made simply as a visual change to the vehicle with no performance enhancement. I see the rear window spoilers on BMW's, Benz's and Lexuses...and it's a really slick look when you select the right profile. Personally, I like the one Korean Auto Imports sells for the Azera...low profile look and just enough to change the look of the car subtly.

Now I would suspect the Genesis being capable of 150-155, maybe a little more. The Azera can pull a little over 140.

However, I've got my sights set on the upcoming Equus!!! :shades:

miklo

jeez.......sorry I thought it was obvious it was a "tongue in cheek" comment, It was my lame attempt at humor and didn't mean to offend product or anyone else. Although when I said the same thing to my salesman a few days after I bought my Genesis the reaction was priceless (at least 2me). I have a friend that said to me years ago not to take myself to serious.........cuz nobody else did.As for the product I meant no disrespect and would probably add this product if I could see it on a Genesis and liked it. I'm a sucker for after market products.As a lot of ppl know I enjoy this site and would not intentionally cause any harm.Of course I have never had my car anywhere even near 100 mph,and don't intend to do so,That kinda stuff is best left to the pro's on the tracks.I have read many great post and got some really good info from this site,along with some not so good and some like mine.Thankfully this site seems to run on auto pilot with few if any problems and very little "flaming" if any,so again I apologize if anyone was offended and meant no disrespect to the product or to anyone.I saw that the product blog was looked at by some as "SPAM" I didn't take it that way due to it is only one post and does give what could be helpful info to someone,of course this is just my opinion.God bless free speech..........it wont be missed until its gone.

MIKLO

allmet33

Miklo...i wasn't offended, just curious...usually some sorta smiley is posted to let us know.

Now I am curious...all that engine under the hood and you haven't stepped into her yet?

I'm glad the guy posted about the aftermarket stuff and I hope it isn't looked at as spam because this is a great venue for putting car owners together with folks that can help them personalize their car...IMHO.

Gotta admit, posting a Hyundai...ANY Hyundai, pulling 172 mph would raise some eyebrows! LOL

miklo

allmet33 ,
No I haven't punched it "yet", I went to the freeway 2 times to do so and both times there was radar setup I have done the 0 to 60 punch several times but don't like to go that fast in town.I keep saying I'm gonna do a road trip but still haven't yet,and that will be the ideal time to see what kinda guts it really has.BTW I was a co-pilot when my friend got into his Genesis and we were doing about 125mph.He has the V8 which is faster,but I'm not all that sure if its a lot faster or just a little faster.I've seen the specs on the difference between the V6 and the V8,it wasn't that much to me to buy the V8 and after driving both I went with the V6 and have been happy.Even at 60 years old I still like lots of power in a car,although I'm just not so fast anymore to punch it all the time as I once did.I really do love this car and haven't said this about a car in a very long time if ever.Sure its not the best car on the road but it does everything I want a car to do and more,and I'm just gettin started cuz I still have less than 5000 miles,aint life great.

MIKLO

allmet33

Miklo...the Genesis 3.8 & 4.6 are pretty close in terms of 0-60 times, but I think the 4.6 will have longer legs. The 3.8 would probably be able to run a little higher than the Azera, but not much... Even though it has almost 30 more hp under the hood, there's a little more weight as well. The 375 hp that the 4.6 produces...I can see that pushing between 150-160.

Glad to hear you're enjoying your Genesis, good luck and happy motoring!!!

jmonroe

does anyone have the wings on the front—

I bought a Genny V8 in March and so far so good (about 7600 miles) but it has the standard Hyundai logo ‘H’.

When my brother came up to the Burgh for a visit (alone) from south Florida about a month after I got the Genny, he said he really liked the car and when their (her) ’06 Town Car came off of lease he’d look into getting a Genny but he would only be interested in the V6 since he lives in Florida. I thought he was only being nice about the compliments.

When he and his wife came for a visit and stopped over on Fathers Day, my son asked his aunt if she’d like to go for a test drive. Not his car but he asked. :surprise: She comes back and says she really likes the car. Again, I figured, just talk. Low and behold they got a V6 about a month ago and it has the WINGS. They were already installed when they saw the car and my brother asked about them and was told by the SM that some people don’t like the idea of their car saying Hyundai, so a special package can be provided.

He lives in one of those over 55 upscale gated retirement communities and when he went to the club to play tennis he was asked by one of the people there, “what kind of car is that, a Bentley”? So, I guess it works.

FWIW, I still haven’t seen a Genny on the road. I thought I saw one in a parking lot while on vacation in Myrtle Beach a few weeks ago but by the time I found a parking spot and went back to look, it was gone. Probably never existed. Are you guys sure you have one of these machines or am I dreaming about owning one and coming to this forum? :confuse:

jmonroe

tjc78

Well, J i own one (Cab Red Pearl) and have only seen a handful (one in my neighborhood, and three others). What I have not seen is a V8 they were all sixes.

As for rebadging mine is not either and I could care less. Most people still don't know what it is anyway.

My car just turned 4000 miles and I must say I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. Hyundai's V6 can't hold a candle to the Toyota V6 I came from ('06 Avalon) and the ride is just ok. It can get unsettled on bad roads and IMO there is too much feedback through the steering wheel when encountering bumps.

All in all its a decent car, with fantastic interior materials and bang for the buck. Also, as I have said before quite possibly the quietest car I have ever ridden in, and that includs a S-class Benz.

miklo

Ahh I had not thought about not seeing other Genesis on the road but now that its mentioned I dont see in my city.I did remove the badging "H" from my Genesis cuz its something I have always done.I will leave the model but not the name......I even insist they dont put their company logo on MY car.I once had a salesman say they cant sell me the car unless it has the dealers name on it.I said no problem I cant and wont buy the car then......see ya......funny how fast it got removed. So 4me I got all the wings in place of the "H" except on the hood cuz there was nothing there to change......and BTW I also did see a Genesis at the dealer when I bought mine that had wings,but I didnt ask if it was add on or aftermarket.I have had more ppl ask me about this car than any car I have ever had b4.I just hit 5000 miles and I really do love this car,I know everyone doesnt feel this way but I do and I've owned em all over the years.Sure its not the best car out there but it works 4me.

MIKLO

jmonroe

Well, J i own one (Cab Red Pearl)

That’s the color I have too. It was the only color I wanted and I went to Ohio to get it, although I could have been satisfied with the silver. I just needed an excuse so Mrs. jmonroe didn’t think I would settle for just any ole thing.

Hyundai's V6 can't hold a candle to the Toyota V6 I came from ('06 Avalon) and the ride is just ok.

I’ve heard that complaint about the ride but I’m very satisfied with mine and so has everyone that’s been in my car, and I’ve asked them, because I’ve heard about the complaints. Maybe the V8 rides better.

Also, as I have said before quite possibly the quietest car I have ever ridden in, and that includs a S-class Benz.

I won’t argue with that. I heard it was a quiet ride but I didn’t expect it to be a silent ride. That’s been the biggest surprise and no one can believe it.

jmonroe

tjc78

Maybe the V8 rides better.

Also could be I am used to pillow soft rides like Avalons, Town Cars etc. The handling is a definately sharper than the Avalon it replaced so its a tradeoff.

Its funny you had a problem finding the Cabernet color. Mine was tough to find too. The selling dealer traded another dealer almost 200 miles away.

lp13

Hi everyone. I last posted on this forum a year ago. Because of not being allowed to test drive the newly introduced Genesis in the UAE at the time, I simply drove up the road and bought a Lexus LS460.

A week ago I discovered the Equus for the first time. I was immediately curious about its purported quality and target market. I went into the Hyundai dealership here to enquire as to pricing etc. and was very surprised indeed to find that Hyundai's priced the Equus (4.6 fully loaded) here higher than what the LS460 (fully loaded) is selling for (both cars are very similarly speced with all the bells and whistles on board).

I was genuinely interested in acquiring an Equus for my better half, but would rather buy another LS460 or Merc S350 for her (the S350 is also lower in price than the Equus, but I think that's a bit of an unfair comparison as the spec levels are quite different).

Can anyone shed any light on this scenario in terms of Hyundai's approach hitherto to challenge the big guns by offering similarly speced and, recently, comparable quality cars at much lower prices?

houdini1

I doubt that anyone here is very familiar with pricing strategies in the UAE. Sounds like it might be whatever the traffic will bear.

alonzo2

Did everyone get a free ipod cable with their new Genesis? I finally got one that the book would indicate was supposed to come with the car but the dealer notified me this was an extra. They kindly got me one without charge upon my querry however. I just wondered about other people's experience.

tjc78

There is supposed to be a $30.00 charge for it. However, I am sure most dealers will include it in the deal. I didn't pay for mine but have seen some Genesis on the dealer's lot that had them on the window sticker as an option.

lp13

I guess you're right - I shouldn't expect you guys in the US to know about UAE pricing strategies.

Subsequently, on really trying to draw the dealer into a discussion on this unusual strategy for Hyundai, it turns out that they believe that the Genesis has done so well in the US that the Equus ought to be able to ride on that wave. Interestingly, this UAE dealer also told me that he has only sold 3 Genesis cars in a year.

I will watch with interest to see how the US success wave sells cars here in the UAE, when the wave here was little more than a ripple.

I suspect that this is a local strategy (if you can call it that), and not a Hyundai directive.

Happy motoring.

scrumhalf7

I live in the Midwest with 6 mo. of snow and just wondering how owners experience with the rear wheel drive in the snow has been. All my vehicles have been FWD or AWD so that is my only apprehension with the vehicle. Any feedback would be great. Thanks!

allmet33

Personally, I would think that with the weight distribution being what it is on the Genesis, it would seem throwing some really good snow tires on there would be all you need. Here's a link to an article someone posted about driving the Genesis in the snow...

Day-by-Day Review: 2009 Hyundai Genesis

miklo

scrumhalf7,
Thanks for question although I live in the middle of the desert and will not drive in snow this is a ? I have been interested in for some reason. At some point we will get an answer from someone that is driving in snow.I also wonder why ppl are more concerned with rear wheel drive, back in the day there were not any or very few front wheel drive and I remember as kid ppl using chains,snow tires and whatever else would help them,and in fact ppl got by. Certainly I agree front wheel is better in snow but really I wonder how much and if its car design that is helping more? Anyway the last snow I saw in Tucson was about 20 years ago and didnt really stick to the road. I hope after you have your own experience this winter you will share with us and tell us how it worked and what you think. Thanks.
MIKLO

miklo

When I went to hook up my iPod and discovered that I needed a cable so I went back to the dealer and discovered that yes they charge 30 bucks,although we went to the parts counter and they gave to me 4free.Really I was kinda surprized that it didnt come with the car.I have learned that most companies just go crazy with nickle and dime stuff.In fairness this is a back door way to keep cost down and profits up.I still thinks its lame but OH WELL and I did get mine free.

MIKLO

alonzo2

Thanks. I had the same experience. It seems you get more if you ask with this company. Someone had a similar experience with the trunk covers for the speaker in the trunk deck. It seems they are bending over backwards to make the customer happy! A rare thing these days.

dczark

I was fortunate and purchased one of the first V8's in NJ... So we get snow and I live in Sparta which is Sussex county in the snow belt so I get nailed. Those are my qualification for talking "snow". To make a long story long, I owned the Sonata, then the Azera now the Genesis. I only got rid of the Azera (FWD) because of the Genesis. The Azera with it's beefy/Heavy V6 was like a tank in the snow. Never off the road and very stable. Pure confidence, I passed 4 wheelers with ease. That car I left the ESC on...

The Genesis (RWD), Fuget about it... First things first, kill (turn off) the ESC... It will just get you stuck... You need wheel spin in snow to get you out of spots and moving... even if it is up the side of a curb, sideways of course. I just work from home on bad snow days-or take a ride with a friend that has 4 wheel drive.... The Genesis is not made for the snow... But as an earlier poster mentioned, "Jeez, back in the day all cars were RWD". I can tell you if the Genesis was FWD, I would not have bought it... I bought it for the additional HP's, RWD, 17 Speaker Lexicon 500+ Watts etc... at a song compared to it's over priced luxury competition. Would I prefer AWD with ability to go RWD? Yes... But I will prefer RWD over FWD anytime... more fun...

miklo

dczark ,
Well said and thanks 4post,I was wondering about the ESC and now I know and makes perfect sense,of course Im sure the manufacturer suggest to leave on,but I think you got it right dude. Wow you sure do like the Hyundai,I also bought a new Sonata in 2004 and was impressed across the board with that car. Now with my Genesis there is no comparison,I really do like this car and Im another guy that hates FWD. In fairness FWD has gotten way better since it first came out but,it still sux 2me.Before Genesis I had a STS cady and didnt like the all wheel drive ,whatever that means,dont get me wrong it was nice car just wasn't crazy about it and I thought I would be . Again thanks for a good post,and keep em coming.

MIKLO

tjc78

You guys are aware that the ESC is never fully "off" turning it off (via the switch) merely reduces its intervention. If you want it totally off, you have to pull the fuse.

robr2

If one is concerned about a RWD car in the snow, then just get snow tires. Tire Rack offers some great packages for the Genesis in both 17" and 18" sizes.

Since my family enjoys snow sports, we run winter tires and rims on both our FWD vehicles. The extra money spent ensures that we get to enjoy our free time (and our commute) without too much worry.

tjc78

then just get snow tires

I agree 100%. I don't plan getting them, as here in south Jersey (near Philly) we don't get enough of the white stuff to worry about it. However, in other parts of the country, I can see a use for them

dczark

Thanks tic78... I thought it was not fully off-operated strangely... I will pull the fuse and feel the difference... Thanks again.!!

Regarding the snow however... It works with just the switch.. I was stepping on the gas in a parking lot with a very, very slight upward incline... No movement whatsoever... The gas pedal was "dead" I simply turned off the ESC and off I went... slippin and slidin..But moving... Again, the car is not a good winter car, snow tires or not...

But I can't wait to pull the fuse after the rain here in Jersey to see the difference !!

I'll post again once I get dry pavement and the fuse pulled...

Have a good one...

sergio19

When you pull the fuse out...from a dead stop hit the brakes, floor it for a second then release the brakes...WOW!!!
The bad thing is that no more speedometer and good bye Nav system...they don't work!

It was really fun trying it though.
If you want to spin the tires without removing the fuse, do the exact sequence described on top.
Also, I found that holding the ESC button for at least 10 seconds seems to help in turning that dam thing off...

Try it and have fun.

fedlawman

"Again, the car is not a good winter car, snow tires or not... "

What kind of snow tires do you use on your Genesis?

bman900

I was out to eat earlier this evening and noticed a new loaded Genesis 3.8 in the parking lot with the window sticker still attached. The dealer was giving a $3,000 discount on this particular vehicle. The original sticker price was $40,000 with a final bottom line price of $37,000. I am pretty sure this was not a pre-owned vehicle. Has anyone else out there seen this?

backy

No, I don't recall seeing a car (outside a dealer's showroom) that had the dealer's discount so prominently displayed on the car. Maybe one of those "no haggle" dealerships?

bman900

The dealership was just down the street.... A pretty large dealership (Holler Hyundai in Winter Park, FL). I think some of the salespeople just took it to the same restaurant I was at. Anyway I thought this was a pretty good discount. Perhaps they are just overly anxious to clear out their 2009s. I would assume there is not much haggle room on that price.

miklo

Wow thanks I didnt know that about the ESC botton,so now if I wanna smoke the tires Im gonna take out the fuse....lol. Really thanks this is good 2know.

MIKLO

allmet33

Don't know the truth to that statement, because when I tested the 3.8 Premium Plus...I turned th ESC off and from a stop was able to stomp the gas pedal, break the tires loose and swing the back end of the car around (like you see in the movies). It was quite fun and exhilirating, but...very easily controlled with the balance of the car. Not once during this manuver did the traction control kick in and reduce throttle or anything. Maybe it's something that's been changed as production has gone along.

tjc78

My car is an early production model, (7/08) even though I've only had it about 5 months. Anyway, there is no doubt that it isn't off. "Playing around" as the tail started to slip out the system corrected the car. Now, with it fully on it intervenes even sooner so the back end doesn't even move. This practice is not uncommon on Chryslers it works the same way.

Here is a link

allmet33

Oh...I believe you, but the model I drove was an early production model as it was when they were first sprinkling in to the dealerships. All I know is I walked away from that experience impressed with how well behaved the car handled even when pushed as I had done. I've done that with cars that took a lot to get back under control, but the Genesis was very well mannered.

You know...the other thing that may have something to do with it...I had the transmission in manual mode. I'm not sure if that affects how the ESC works with the overall system or not. Give that shot and see what happens.

alonzo2

This is the exact car I purchased brand new at this exact price. It's real. Go scoop it up!

tjc78

Give that shot and see what happens.

In an immature moment.... I switched off the ESC and really laid into it on a left turn with no one around. Yes, indeed, the back end did come out from me a little (with some nice tire squeel). It was very easy to control though, so I believe the ESC did kick in at the end. :shades:

allmet33

Glad to see you finally got to enjoy that moment!

Not sure what the threshold is for th ESC, when I did it (exactly as you did) the back wheels spun and squealed all the way through the back end breaking around past the front, then I spun the wheel into the slide to bring it back around and it was a very smooth transition back to a straight line.

Did you keep the tranny in auto mode or did you switch it to manual?

tjc78

Left it in auto mode. Then I was going to switch to manual if the results weren't satisfactory.

colegar

Vehicle: V6 Black/Black with Tech Pack and all options

Sometime next week my odometer will roll over the 35,000 mile mark, so here goes with my owner experience update that I have posted every 5,000 miles or so.

In summary, I have experience only three problems thus far. Although I have reported two of the three, I will mention them again so that you do not have to weed back through my previous posts:

1. A switch under the hood became leaned over (out of position) and created a battery drain. I assume that it was allowing the hood light to stay on when the hood was closed. Although it took them a week to determine the problem, it was fixed under warranty and has not reoccurred.

2. The “joy-stick” toggle switch on the steering column malfunctioned and would not telescope the steering wheel either up or down, even though it would still allow the steering wheel to be tilted. The dealer had to order the part but it only took an hour or so to replace once it became available.

3. The problem with the Nav Traffic system giving incorrect information relative to the direction in which an accident or road obstruction exists is still occurring. I believe this to be a problem originating at XM Radio since I believe that they are the ones downloading the Nav-Traffic data to my Genesis navigation system. As I have previously reported, my display will correctly inform me of an accident at a certain location or Interstate exit number, but it incorrectly tells me what direction that is from my current location. It seems to be incorrect byexactly 180 degrees. I should point out that this problem seems to be isolated to Upstate South Carolina because I have not experienced it on long trips in other regions.

In my last two posts, I described my experience regarding the replacement of the original Dunlap tires. I first went with Pirelli Pzero Nero M&S which get great reviews. They were quite and had decent handling characteristics, and they are known for achieving good wear mileage. However, I could not get them balanced to my satisfaction, even after having them swapped out for a different set. I paid a ton of money to switch to a set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus. They dramatically improved the handling and they balanced perfectly. However, anyone considering this particular tire should be forewarned of two things: First, they exacerbate the problem the Genesis has of riding too harsh on bumpy roads. Secondly, on certain concrete road services (mainly new pavement), they are incredibly boisterous (noisy). On those particular surfaces, they sound like a jacked-up pickup truck with knobby off-road tires (no exaggeration)! Conversely, they are very quite on other surfaces (asphalt, etc.).

Not much else to report. Great car! Best bang for the buck! Great performance for a V6. Great fuel mileage (27 to 30 on trips driving 80 MPH). Rock-solid build quality (except for the two electrical switches I discussed above). For me, the harsh ride only comes into play 10% of the time since I do a lot of trips on good surfaces. Bottom line, unless I experience problems in the future, I don’t know much else that measures up to the Genesis for the price and I have been looking since I have another car with the lease about to expire. I may put my wife in the Genesis an buy either a Ford Fusion Hybred or a VW Diesel Sportwagon for myself since I am such a high-mileage driver. I am betting that we will see $4 per gallon gasoline within eighteen months!

I will report back in at 40,000 miles ...

bobad

Thanks colegar, your updates are very much appreciated!

My, you are a high mileage driver! :surprise:

colegar

Yes, it is rediculous but I rack up 700 miles a week, most of which is commuting 130 miles per day (round trip) to work. Also, I take several trips per year that range from 1,000 to 2,000 miles each (round trip). I am not aware of any other Genesis owners that have rolled up this many miles but I am sure there is one out there somewhere.

You can see why my car-shopping has me focusing on high-mileage options!

miklo

colegar,
As always thanks so much for your informative and well articulated reviews,we really do appreciate. WOW dude you really do rack up some miles Im now at 5284 miles....lol. What is very nice is you have given us a look at the possible future for our Genesis.Not sure what others will think but this looks very good 2me.I am glad that even though you do like the car as much as I like mine you dont pull any punches,and IMO thats what is needed here. Again thanks so much for great info. and keep it coming please

MIKLO

colegar

Thanks miklo. It is my view that unless all of us tell both the good and the bad, this forum serves no valid purpose.

chris109

http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?No=139314&code=national

This just in.
A customer in Korea who purchased 2009 Hyundai Genesis 3.8 VIP (full options, US$54,240) reported rusting in the space under cargo where the spare tire is stored.
He called the customer service but they were not being cooperative.

Export models might be better rustproofed.