Hyundai Genesis Sedan 2009+

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  • ergsumergsum Member Posts: 146
    I would suggest something subtle. A silver metallic a little brighter and lighter than the Titanium Gray, or maybe a light charcoal metallic.

    http://www.stripeman.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Graphics&Produc- t_Code=805-Pin-Stripe-pinstripe-Tape-Vinyl&Category_Code=Single+Line+Pin+Stripe
  • donna388donna388 Member Posts: 69
    "May I ask why you wanted to know about the balancing equipment?"

    :D

    The reason I asked is because there are balancers, and then there are
    Balancing Systems. None better than the Hunter GSP 9700 IMHO.

    This is of course when operated by a knowledgeable tech
    who follows the computer instructions to the letter.

    See: http://www.gsp9700.com/

    HTHs

    :)
  • poodog13poodog13 Member Posts: 320
    Pin stripes went out of style 15+ years ago.
  • miklomiklo Member Posts: 67
    Pin stripes went out of style 15+ years ago. poodog13

    Well thanks for your gracious opinion, but as all styles seem to go away and then return I wanna be the first to have it when it comes back in "STYLE". By doing it this way I will appear as a trend setter and ahead of my time so to speak,so to my way of thinking a style is what appeals to a person and not just doing what the rest of the crowd thinks is acceptable or "cool".My father (RIP) used 2say nobody knows how dumb you are until you say something,so I have always(mostly) tried to choose my words carefully and if I don't have something nice to say I try not to say anything..........but thats just my opinion and I could be wrong.

    MIKLO
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,086
    Miklo,

    Do whatever makes you happy on your Genesis... having said that. What color are you going with? If you wouldn't mind, after you have it done post a picture. I am curious how it would look. Thanks!

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  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    all styles seem to go away and then return

    Better get the vinyl then. :D
  • poodog13poodog13 Member Posts: 320
    Could also go with contact paper, peels off pretty easily.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    "Better get the vinyl then."

    Do you mean stripes or roof? ;)
  • colegarcolegar Member Posts: 80
    VEHICLE: Genesis 3.8 liter V6 with every available option (including tech pack and 18” wheels), Black on Black

    My odometer will roll past 30,000 miles within a couple of days, so here goes my owner’s experience update that I have posted at 5,000 mile intervals (approximately). Not a lot has changed, which is mostly a good thing! I have recently posted some information pertaining to replacing the original tires so I will not rehash that here since all of you can pull up my previous posts.

    BODY (FIT, FINISH, APPEARANCE, ETC.)
    Absolutely nothing negative to report! Still rock-solid without a hint of any squeaks, rattles, or problems.

    ENGINE/TRANSMISSION/DRIVETRAIN
    I could not be happier with the power and smoothness. I still marvel as to how a V6 can move this heavy vehicle with such ease and grace.

    TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE
    Excellent navigation system. The Genesis multimedia controller is far more sophisticated and user-friendly than other brands’ attempt at this (including BMW’s iDrive). After just one trip, I found it to be intuitive and easy to access a lot of things without having to reach for multiple dials and knobs. I do have one weird thing that I have previously posted on this blog. Sometimes the NavTraffic system displays what I call “upside down” information. It will correctly identify the exact location of a traffic accident by telling the road, exit, direction of travel, etc. However, it sometimes incorrectly will say that the accident is X amount of miles to the South when, in fact, it is that same amount of miles to the North. I still don’t know if this is the fault of the NavTraffic computer or if the information is incorrect that is being downloaded from the state department of transportation and/or state police.

    SUSPENSION AND RIDE
    I realize that this will start another round of arguments but trust me when I tell you that Hyundai needs to make the suspension a little less harsh. I am one that likes European type handling characteristics that provide sportiness and good handling. The Genesis provides both but it also jars your fillings on even mildly bumpy road surfaces. Anytime the road is smooth, it is a fantastic riding and handling machine. I feel sure that they will address this in upcoming model years. Be careful what kind of tires you purchase and NEVER over-inflate them!

    VALUE
    In spite of the few negatives I mentioned above, at this price no other luxury sedan comes close! In a few months, I will be purchasing another vehicle for my wife. I have begun the decision process and I find myself trying to find something else that will measure up to the Genesis’s value. I don’t want two Genesises (is that how you make it plural???) but I hate to pay from $8,000 to $25,000 more and not get more! If Hyundai corrects the harsh suspension, they will wax Lexus, Infinity, and Acura, and they will take a bite out of BMW and Mercedes.

    I’ll be back in about 5,000 miles (probably late September).
  • miklomiklo Member Posts: 67
    colegar,

    As always thank you so much for your updates, for me and many others they are very helpful and well thought out.One thing you said that comes to my mind every time I drive my Genesis is********************************************

    "I could not be happier with the power and smoothness. I still marvel as to how a V6 can move this heavy vehicle with such ease and grace."

    Yep I still find it hard to believe this and really see it when I take off from a stop lite.I don't lead foot it (at least not very often)but it just seems effortless from a dead stop.I really noticed it a few times recently when I drove a couple of different cars and it felt like I had to really give it a lot of gas pedal for it to move and get to cruising speed they seemed so sluggish.(both were 6cyl)
    Well I now have a little over 4000 mile so your post makes me happy that this is what I have to look forward to.(all things being equal) Please continue your informative post,and thanks again.Really I'm gonna do a road trip soon and put some miles on this great ride.......lol.

    MIKLO
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,086
    Colegar,

    You seem to be racking up the miles more than any of us other Genesis owners. On the GenesisOwners.com site I have seen reports of up to 20K or so.

    I agree with you 100% on the ride. My car just broke 3000 miles and is going in for its first oil change next Thursday. I am also having them do an alignment. It seemed off from day one, but I wasn't sure if I just wasn't used to the car. After putting some miles I am sure I have a definate drift to the left on all roads. Also, the dash panel behind the turn signal lever is coming off on one side. A clip must be broken or not installed. The dealer I bought the car from was very good so far, so I am now curious as to how their service is. I asked for a loaner and was told "no problem" with no questions asked.

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  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    Do you mean stripes or roof?

    Ewwwww!
  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    I don’t want two Genesises
    -----------~~-----------
    If I were you, I would get my wife the Coupe and keep the Sedan. Problem solved! Wait,,, let me think about that a minute...

    I don’t want two Genesises (is that how you make it plural???)
    ----------~~----------

    That's spelled "Genesis-zz-zz" :D

    Thanks for the report. Enjoyed it!
  • colegarcolegar Member Posts: 80
    Replying to tjc78 , regarding alignment problems:

    I have never had to get an alignment and my tires were wearing very evenly. However, I do want to mention one thing in case it relates to your Genesis drifting to the left. With the original Dunlaps, I was conscience that my Genesis did not like roads that had severe crowns. It seemed to pull toward the sholder on those kinds of roads. However, it does not ehibit those tendancies at all now that I have installed Michelin Pilot Sport AS Plus. It is smooth and has no off-center pulling.

    One caveat: Before anyone considers going to this model of Michelins, be aware that the already harsh ride of the Genesis is even more so with the Michelins. They greatly improved the handling but exacerbated the suspension stiffness.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,086
    Thanks Colegar,

    Mine was really never right from delivery. The wheel is a bit off center and even around town on level roads it pull left. You are right though, on crowned roads it will drift toward the shoulder pretty much all the time, my Avalon was the same way.

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  • mechanicomechanico Member Posts: 1
    I tried Genesis V6 test drive after driving Acura TL base model. I'll probably go with Acura but will check first to see if 2010 Genesis has resolved stiff ride problem. But I kinda like the idea of using regular gas in Genesis instead of premium in Acura.
  • colegarcolegar Member Posts: 80
    I actually traded an Acura TL in on my Genesis. Here are my thoughts on the pros and cons:

    * Acura is fun to drive but no quicker than the V6 Genesis.
    * Genesis seems to have more torque on long pulls
    * Acura's suspension is less harsh
    * I like rear-wheel drive better (Genesis)
    * Front-wheel drive is harder on tires (Acura)
    * Real-world gas mileage is almost the same
    * Acura is hard to get in and out of in tight parking spaces
    * Geneis is much roomier. No comparison for back seat passengers!
    * Anything made by Honda is usually trouble-free (Acura)
    * Although too new to be proven, Genesis quality appears to be great too
    * Either choice will serve you well!
    * Genesis is much classier looking (my opinion). Acura TL is a glorified Honda Accord (not necessarily a bad thing)!
    * Genesis is far more car for the money

    You are making a choice between two very good cars. Go with your heart ... not my opinion or anyone else's.
  • carolinabobcarolinabob Member Posts: 576
    Per Hyundai official, 2010 will have new bushings, springs and shocks. Will it work? Only time will tell. Unfortunately, once a mag or website reviews a car, they seldom go back until years later. Example: Consumer Reports reviews in their summary magazines are sometimes actually 5 or 6 years old.
  • miklomiklo Member Posts: 67
    I'm interested 2see if it really makes a difference and if so how much.If its really that good I may have to trade my 2009,although 2me it is noticeable I'm not that bothered by it.So it will have to be a really big improvement for me to trade,and I don't wanna have to go through the hassle of replacing all the branding logo's again.....lol.Yhanks for the info. :)

    MIKLO
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    CR is notorious for long review cycles. But other mags/web sites can be more responsive, especially if the vehicle is of special interest or the manufacturer encourages the mag to re-review because of the update, provides the car etc.
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    I would think you could tell by driving both cars. Sometimes these mags have their own agenda anyway. CR is probably the least biased.

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    Per Hyundai official, 2010 will have new bushings, springs and shocks. Will it work? Only time will tell.

    Welcome back Bob. That was a short hiatus.

    I hope they don't go too far and make the Genesis suspension Lexus soft. That would be a shame.
  • carolinabobcarolinabob Member Posts: 576
    Thanks. I had information that answered a question, so I thought I would share it.
    I think one problem Hyundai might have is they are trying to compete with both Lexus and BMW and the makes in between on suspension and this is probably impossible to do.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,086
    they are trying to compete with both Lexus and BMW and the makes in between on suspension and this is probably impossible to do

    Bob,

    I assume you read about the suspension changes on the "Hyundai Think Tank" that is where I saw it. Anyway, no car can be everything to everyone. IMO they should soften the ride a touch (for the Lexus/Toyota crowd) then offer a full on "Touring or Sport" suspension as an option for the BMW/Infiniti crowd. They are in a no win situation. Soften it too much and "its too floaty like a Buick/Avalon" or stiffen it too much and people claim the ride is harsh and jarring.

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  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    What would be wonderful if Hyundai could find a way to replicate the ride/handling feel of the 5 Series, in a $33k sedan. Great handling and ride compliance without being harsh, or floaty. I am not betting Hyundai can't do it, someday. But BMW has a bit of a head start there. ;)
  • tpricetprice Member Posts: 46
    I completely agree.."no car can be everything to everyone." I have had my Genesis for about 7 weeks now and on balance am extremely impressed by the car. I've got some minor nits - but nothing I would call very substantive. A couple are I wish all all the windows were auto up and down, that the homelink was backlit, that the passenger seat was power up/down, the dealer needs to step up their game a little to compete in this space, etc. We still have 2 Acuras (MDX & RL) and have had past experiences with Infiniti and Lexus (+ about everyone other make) and their service depts. I would say I've had better service experience with all of them but realize that can vary. For example, I recently noticed some blotches in the NAV screen when the screen is black - almost like finger tips inside from the inside (i.e, not on outside). It does not seem to impact the quality of the display so far. When I took it to the dealer they said it was working as it should and that it would need to be seen by a Hyundai rep if I wanted anything to be done with it - that they could not make that decision without them seeing it. It may be a way to control warranty expenses but certainly puts the dealer in bad position if they can't make those types of calls. I will continue to watch it for now (so perhaps they accomplished their goal?!). Again, I think it is a fantastic car for my needs and enjoy sharing the story with others.
  • bman900bman900 Member Posts: 55
    Hyundai is notorious for purchasing a competitor's vehicle, tearing it down, and reverse engineering many of its components based on that design. With that said I don't see why they couldn't completely disassemble a BMW 5-Series suspension and emulate it based on the Genesis dimensions and specs. I believe the original post on this topic mentioned that the 2010 Genesis will have new bushings, springs and shocks. I am looking forward to test driving a 2010 model to see the difference.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    With that said I don't see why they couldn't completely disassemble a BMW 5-Series suspension and emulate it based on the Genesis dimensions and specs.

    Uh... patents, maybe?
  • bman900bman900 Member Posts: 55
    Not sure patent law applies in South Korea.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Try googling "patent law South Korea", see what you get.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    "What would be wonderful if Hyundai could find a way to replicate the ride/handling feel of the 5 Series, in a $33k sedan. Great handling and ride compliance without being harsh, or floaty."

    The entire industry has been trying to replicate BMW's formula for sedan ride/handling for 40 years. Some have come close, but so far nobody has cracked the code.
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,144
    I've owned the BMW. Have driven the Lexus LS. And had two extended test drives, of both the V6 and V8 Genesis.

    Purely a personal opinion, but the Genesis splits the difference between the BMW and the Lexus. It doesn't ride as hard as the BMW, nor as softly as the Lexus. It won't outhandle the BMW, but will outhandle the Lexus.

    So, those used to that ride of the Lexus/Camry/Avalon/ES350 won't like the Genesis ride. Those that put more emphasis on handling, aren't going to give the nod to the Genesis over the BMW.

    In the middle sits the Genesis. Those who prefer the BMW or the Lexus won't agree. But, those with an open mind, will be in for a treat.

    No way you could consider the ride of the Genesis as harsh. I took both models on some terrible roads. It was firm, but far from harsh....very far.

    Ran into a neighbor's wife last weekend. She's had a MB E series that's about 7 years old. She's looking to replace it. I told her she owed it to herself (and her husband, who's more practial than she ever will be) to drive a Genesis. She asked me who made it. I told her Hyundai. She practically laughed me off her drive way.

    She said she just put in a special order for the '10 E series, due to be delivered in Oct. Price paid was $47K+.....and it doesn't even come with leather or NAV. But, it does say Mercedes, though.
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  • poodog13poodog13 Member Posts: 320
    Obviously more interested in keeping up appearances than anything else. Guess that's worth the extra cash to some people. For me, give me more standard equipment and let me buy something else fancy with the extra cash!
  • LASHAWNLASHAWN Member Posts: 303
    Pure example of why brand name doesn't always means best choice. Bet if she ordered it with leather and nav would've been paying close to $60k.
  • ratledgeratledge Member Posts: 233
    Damned close: assuming we're talking an 350E - add navigation package (the cheaper one) and leather seats and you're looking at $55K+. If you go for the fancy upscale package that includes almost most of the features that are in the Genny it's over $58K. :sick:

    Go ahead and check off half the rest of the options so you get to a comparable feature-set and you're looking at more like $60K where it maxes out. Add another 10% to the engine and you're gettin' really close.
  • houdini1houdini1 Member Posts: 8,356
    My every day driver is a 2006 LS 430. I have test driven the Genesis a couple of times and think it is a great car. I brought one home about a year ago. It was black and my wife would not even ride in it because it was so ugly. A couple of days ago we parked close to a white Genesis and she remarked what a nice looking car it was ! Go figure. :)

    2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460

  • drdiscountdrdiscount Member Posts: 2
    does anyone have the wings on the front--I'd love to see a picture
  • toyetoye Member Posts: 351
    Go to the website Hyundai Genesis Forum and click on pictures of owners Genesis and you'll find plenty of them. I myself have the wings on the front, trunk, wheel caps and steering wheel. It completes the Genesis.
  • miklomiklo Member Posts: 67
    I have the wings on the trunk,wheels,and steering wheel,but Im not sure what wings you mean on the front.BTW my trunk wing has a led light for nite and does look cool at least 2me.Now that all the branding has been removed people have asked me....just what kinda car is that anyway?Sorry but I love to bust chops so I say its a Genesis..... and most just say OH ok thanks and leave with puzzled look.
    Let me know if you want 2see pics and what your talking about on the front and I'll be happy to send what I got.

    MIKLO
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Why not post them on your CarSpace page and then display them here for us!
  • hkyhky Member Posts: 71
    I can't find anything about it in the manuals. Does the instrument panels or DIS show reminders for oil change or other service for Genesis?
  • hkyhky Member Posts: 71
    I was trying to add an entry to the phone book and in the middle the spin nob stop working. Now the whole thing is broken, I can only page up and page down and there is no way to turn the nob to the next item in the current menu everywhere... Right after that I took it to the dealer and they try to reset it by resitting the fuse and didn't help, service advisor setup an appt tomorrow for software update, I hope it can fix the problem. One thing that bothers me is the tech came out to check on it, and try to touch the screen and appears to be clueless about the system.. I told them it happens once the whole DIS system rebooted while I was in a road junction, a little scary at first as I thought the car dies but actually the car is still running. Hyundai really needs to work on its software.. Anyone seen this before? Will let you know whether the software update helps.
  • hkyhky Member Posts: 71
    Just came back from the dealer. It won't take the software update, and they ordered the control knob unit - took 4 weeks! :confuse: :sick:
  • miklomiklo Member Posts: 67
    Here is a link to my Genesis pics of wings,I will add nite time shot later of trunk wing, not sure how good it will look but it looks nice in person.This can give ya some kinda idea of what it looks like although Im not a good picture taker,enjoy.

    MIKLO

    http://www.carspace.com/miklo/?50@@.5c9d384d
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Thanks for posting them, miklo!
  • allmet33allmet33 Member Posts: 3,557
  • bobadbobad Member Posts: 1,587
    Genesis Re-fresh

    Wish I had the driver's job for about a month.
  • tayl0rdtayl0rd Member Posts: 1,926
    My every day driver is a 2006 LS 430. I have test driven the Genesis a couple of times and think it is a great car. I brought one home about a year ago. It was black and my wife would not even ride in it because it was so ugly. A couple of days ago we parked close to a white Genesis and she remarked what a nice looking car it was ! Go figure.

    Hilarious! Women are so funny sometimes, aren't they? I had a similar situation happen w/ me some years ago. Tried to convince my [then] girlfriend to look at a car. Can't remember which or who made it. [She's one of those irritating Hondaphiles.] She exclaimed it was the ugliest thing in the world. Probably the next week we saw the exact same model car in a different color and she commented on how nice it was! I said, "That's the exact same car that you said was so ugly just last week, only in a different color!!" :sick: I guess the clothes really do make the man; in this case, the car. :confuse:
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Member Posts: 3,118
    I don't get it. Is there an aerodynamic flaw with the Genesis that Hyundai hasn't addressed? At what speeds does this spoiler become effective? How much downforce is generated at 40MPH? 60MPH? 80MPH?
  • LASHAWNLASHAWN Member Posts: 303
    There is no flaw, this is just a aftermarket part to make the car look different that's all. Don't read too much into it man.
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