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Hyundai Genesis Sedan 2009+

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  • chilliwackchilliwack Member Posts: 189
    Now THAT I like. It would be sweet if Hyundai used the Genesis badging seen in these pics. Probably plug the goofy "Circle H" in there and recess it so removal is impractical (for debadge types).
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    This car will be good business for Koreanautoimports and the other KDM part stores. All those KDM parts might be very attractive to US owners.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=87957

    This time with a mountain of wood. Probably fake but could be real wood. I'd say it's fake since it would be very expensive to put all this wood veneer in an interior like that.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 986
    Wood is good!
  • prosource1prosource1 Member Posts: 234
    John Krafcik has already confirmed, upon release of the concept in NY, that the Genesis would have real wood and every accessory that top tier luxury marques offer.
  • chilliwackchilliwack Member Posts: 189
    Did he mention anything about top tier suspension components? :sick:
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    Re. 989: Good point chilliwack, but I doubt he has any suspension component awareness.
  • ricwhitericwhite Member Posts: 292
    I hear they are using the exact same suspension components as the current Azera.
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    kidding :)
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Adjustable suspension, for starters.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    The v8 in the genesis sedan will make 375 hp and 360 lbs-ft. The torque isn't a confirmed number but the HP is. The v8 is a 4.6L tau v8. First mentioned in the Neos-3 concept. No RPM specs though.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    V8 will actually make 370 HP. V6 should make about 300 HP. The final KDM rating for the 3.8L v6 is 307 PS. That 375 HP number is in ps. 307 PS is about 303 HP. Torque is 281 LBS-FT. I hear the Lambda II v6 in this application will have direct injection. Looks interesting power wise. No plans for a Diesel engine. The 3.0L Diesel used in the veracruz would be nice. Maybe tuned for more HP. The 3.8L Lambda II will appear in the BK.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    Looks like Korea is getting the V8. The genesis logo is a chinese market exclusive but probably within 2 to 3 years this could easily be a brand with the VI and a few other products.

    The emblems and logos.

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  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 995
    Are you saying that the US version will not be available with the V8 next year?
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I think they were saying that only the USDM cars would get V8 but now the KDM cars will also get the V8 option.

    -mike
  • scbobscbob Member Posts: 167
    Let's wait until the car is more developed before we become too critical. At least Hyundai is trying and I think they are trying various configurations to get it as correct as possible. Also, they are apparently trying to find a niche a little different from their competitors. One reason I bought an Azera was because it was not like the other cars that I was considering.
    Also, it is hard to distinquish many cars from each other now and don't forget the original Lexus was accused of being copied from BMW.
    As for the H logo, I like it. Also, if we want to help build Hyundai as a major brand, the more H's out there the better. Would Lexus, BMW, MB have the recognition and panache they have if they did not have the badge recognition?
    If you have an idea or comment on the Genesis, why not send a letter to Hyundai?
  • wolverinejoe80wolverinejoe80 Member Posts: 337
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    looks great! 375hp confirmed!
  • wolverinejoe80wolverinejoe80 Member Posts: 337
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    does anybody know exact dimensions on genesis? it will be bigger than m45 right? can't wait till i see in detroit. this really could be my next car.
  • neoisleneoisle Member Posts: 9
    ">more Genesis pic
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  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    Is this confirmed US model?
  • flx00flx00 Member Posts: 8
    According to the Korean news, it seems like 3.3 and 3.8 will be available in Korea. It said v8 will be only available for the oversea version.

    length 195.86 in
    wide 74.4094 in
    high 58.2677in

    3.3 262hp 32.2 kg-m (Max torque)
    3.8 290hp 36.5 kg-m

    6 speed auto that is used in Veracruz.

    Air Suspension and Variable Damper: it wrote if you drive over 120 km/h for 10 sec, the car will be lowered about 15 mm and go higher about 30 mm while you're driving on the rough road.

    Also, it comes with

    SCC(smart cruise control),
    AFLS(Adaptive Front Light System),
    DIS(Driver information system),
    Lexicon sounds system with 17 speakers.....
  • drdonrsdrdonrs Member Posts: 164
    Can't wait to see Genesis in the showroom. My concern is will the typical Hyundai dealership be prepared to deal with an upscale luxo-sedan? I have not found that to be the case, necessarily, with the handling of Azera and Entourage sales, for example. I think the dealers would be well served to conduct an evaluation amongst the customers who have purchased these cars and see what it will take to break the badge snobbery and bring in people who are accustomed to "red carpet" service. Balloons, easy credit signs and salesman who are geared to sell the low end will not "cut the mustard". I am rooting for Hyundai and my dealership otherwise I wouldn't be driving 2 Hyundai's. Love my Azzy and Sonata. :)
    Don
  • flx00flx00 Member Posts: 8
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  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel Member Posts: 19,592
    My concern is will the typical Hyundai dealership be prepared to deal with an upscale luxo-sedan?

    Why not? Most dealerships are either not stand alones or are part of a dealer group. If other makes are luxury or near luxury brands it shouldn't be to hard. One Hyundai dealership near me also sells Buicks and Saabs in the same facility. Another is owned by the same owner who has a Caddy dealership nearby. It shouldn't be to difficult for them to make any adjustments.

    2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D

  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Pics are looking good.

    -mike
  • wolverinejoe80wolverinejoe80 Member Posts: 337
    thanks!

    bmw7 series
    length 198.4
    width 74.9
    wheelbase 117.7
    height 58.7

    so it's almost 7er. what about wheelbase. does anybody know? leg room?
  • tonycdtonycd Member Posts: 223
    First, your reaction to a single campaign of TV commercials is to say this about the sponsor:

    "I see a lot of ambition, but not a whole lot of talent, yet."

    All carmakers -- all large companies, for that matter -- go outside for hired ad agencies to create their advertising. The people in whom you "don't see a whole lot of talent" are probably a handful of agency hipsters in their 20s. They have absolutely nothing to do with the product. In fact, Hyundai's US marketing chief has already concluded a much-publicized agency search and replaced the agency that developed that ad. There's already a new, completely different Azera commercial on the air in its place; you ought to get out less.

    Second, the points made ahead of your posts are documented facts. Toyota did ask for a peek into Hyundai's new Alabama plant, and did get snubbed. And Toyota's CEO has named Hyundai as Toyota's most threatening long-term "enemy" (his word, not mine). Hyundai may yet have "a lot to prove, to me." I'll settle for the opinion of this other fellow instead, thanks very much.

    Finally, you say "before we declare Hyundai the second coming, can they build a best-in-class vehicle first?" By the sheerest coincidence, your prescient posts have been made on a board dedicated in part to the Hyundai Azera, recognized by this month's Consumer Reports as #1 in customer satisfaction (83% repurchase intent) in the Large Car class. It is also the Editors' Most Wanted and Editors' Top Recommended car in its class according to the proprietors of this board, Edmunds, and was the #1-rated car in vehicle satisfaction by AutoPacific -- among all cars, regardless of class -- in its first year of production.

    Read more and post less, please.
  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    re: # 1011 Well written. I hope the good dr has a chance to read your post.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    been anyway?

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • tenpin288tenpin288 Member Posts: 804
    Good question. His profile shows he hasn't been on since 11/8 and hasn't posted since 10/20. :confuse:
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709
    I almost miss the constant drone of his Hyundai put-downs!

    2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick

  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    re. 1015: keyword, "almost" Me too, I think.
  • mbhollambholla Member Posts: 37
    Any Interior shots from this showcase
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    None posted as far as I know.

    I saw this on CSS:

    http://www.carspyshots.net/showthread.php?t=14287&page=5

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    Looks darn good :)
  • ata10ata10 Member Posts: 5
    While searching for new Genesis pics I found some really great shots. The most interesting to me are the interior pics shown here...
    http://www.kia-world.net/forum/showthread.php?tid=89&pid=1427#pid1427
  • flx00flx00 Member Posts: 8
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  • dborthdborth Member Posts: 474
    Thanks to flx00 for posting these photos.

    Hyundai is making a huge mistake if they leave the H badge on the US version. The "new" knockoff Bentley badge they will use for the Korean and Chinese markets would be a homerun in the US and upgrade Hyundai to the next level here.
  • astorastor Member Posts: 30
    flxoo where are all the real life pics you posted of the Hyundai Genesis??
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Those photos are wonderful, and thank you for finding and posting them!

    Those wheels are fantastic looking, and the ugly and hard to clean-around lug nuts are covered, unlike many much mroe expensive cars.

    I completely agreee that Hyundai should keep the Genesis badges and simply sell it at Hyundai dealers. Americans are very good at finding bargains, and people will definitely find the Genesis.

    If Hyundai does not import it with the Genesis badges, the dealers here had better stock up on them, as many people will want to install them after they peel off whatever else is there!
  • flx00flx00 Member Posts: 8
    I just found it from one of korean web site. ;)

    And also Accroding to KEMCO (korean version EPA)

    3.8 genesis weight 1737kg (about 3829.4 lb) and for the comparison KDM 3.8 Azeara is 1730 kg.

    And I have no idea how they rate the fuel consumption in korea but their figure might give you some idea when it's compared with Azera.

    3.8 kdm Azera is rated as 8.6 km/lt which is 20.2 mpg (5sp auto)
    3.8 genesis is rated as 9.6 km/lt which is about 22.5 mpg(6sp auto)
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE: 1029
    Great pictures, although I can't figure out the reason for the panel behind the grill emblem.
    Other manufacturers that have collision avoidance systems don't have this viable panel.
  • rv65rv65 Member Posts: 1,076
    Also appears to have some kind of camera. Maybe it will have night vision. I'm glad this one doesn't have a mountain of wood!
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    Does anyone here know when the Genesis will be on sale in the USA?
  • brianshbriansh Member Posts: 4
    That's some kind of sensor to automatically maintain distance between cars, i've heard.
    Maybe it can help prevent accidents, but can be annoying in some cases i think.
  • floridabob1floridabob1 Member Posts: 1,190
    RE:1033
    I belive that it ia the sensor for collisioin avoidance, but I can't understand why it is so visable. Other manufactures have been able to hide it.
  • rviradiarviradia Member Posts: 44
    I agree 100%, keep Genesis as-is (move the emblem down to middle of the grill) and leave Hyundai name out of it, Hyundai's badge & name are still too economy.
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