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V6 with prem pkg= $35000
V6 w/ prem plus pkg= $36000
V6 w/ tech pkg= $40000
Base V8= $38000
V8 w/tech= $42000
Hopefully this will get a good, final answer out there.
Can't wait to see one up close.
Those are the exact cars that are at these ride and drive events. The one I went to had an E-class, a GS, and 4 Genesis' to drive.
Are you going to be there Backy?
You noticed that too?
Or, maybe its because the great state of AK is being punished due to lack of auto leasing.
Saw a black one here....V-6 premium pkg. Looks like a pretty nice car
Don't forget OR where there is NO SALES TAX at all. :surprise:
I think perhaps Montana also, but I am not sure.
Can you used the navigation while your driving or does it lock up once you begin to drive? If it does lock up, how good is the voice activiation?
Thanks to anyone who may be able to help
Once you drive it does not let you enter destination address. But you can scroll the map screen (just like google map) and choose your destination. POI serach is still enabled while driving. (if I remember correctly)
I didn't get a chance to test voice activation yet.
If anyone is planning to test drive soon, can you guys bring a DVD to test? I wonder if DVD still plays while driving. Probably not, but who knows?
http://www.fitzmall.com/Fitzway/Carfind/resultsa.asp?lstMake=Hyundai&lstmodel=Ge- nesis&lstNU=NEW&MODE=NEW&searchtype=LOCATION
I think my cars are on the shiny UFO because my GM and I refused to take a second allocation of V6 models.
Looks like the Fitzmall tech packages are still on order. There are 102 tech packages in the US right now. They are almost all in CA, but there are a couple in Washington and Oregon.
By the way, on the sticker, it will list the premium plus package and the tech package as two seperate options. One for $3000 and the other for $4000. Just thought I would get that info out there. I went ahead and pulled an invoice to satisfy my curiosity.
Concerning the Genesis doing 0-60 in 5.6 being impressive. The fact that Hyundai has a car that does that is what makes it impressive. Something like that from BMW, Benz, Porsche, Infiniti or Lexus is expected...don't you think? Now...5.5 or 5.6 seconds in a car that weight 4000 lbs...I guess that would be considered as ripping. I mean, you have coupes out here that are designed for speed and run 0-6 a full second faster, but taking all into consideration...a large luxo sedan running a full second behind a race inspired coupe isn't bad at all.
Maybe your hair won't catch fire, but it sure will get the adrenaline pumping, don't ya think?
If one is looking for the softest ride possible from the Genesis, then they would need to opt for the 17" wheels of the base model. I tested the 3.8 w/ premium plus which had the 18" wheels and like I said before...impressive (I say impressive because we are talking about a Hyundai). Now...if the 4.6 V-8 is getting 18 wheels as well, the tighter suspension would definitely give it a stiffer ride. I think the Genesis could have benefitted from an adjustable suspension, you know...a sport mode and a cruise mode.
.......I'd like to see any 50k BMW, Mercedes, or M35 infiniti for no money down and 500/mo.
My local Infiniti has a 499/mo lease ad special on an M35, but there's a 13% cap cost reduction, plus 1st, security, tax, etc, etc.
Mercdes has their E 350 w/ a payment in the high 500's, but it's almost $5000 out of pocket.
A 45k car with no money down @ 379 mo...?? Yeah, show me any ad from anywhere in the country with that. Look at the the fine print and you'll see the 10-12% cap cost reductions to get payments that low.
You might be about to get a nicely equipped 30k VW passat for 400/mo with no money down.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX- %3AIT&viewitem=&item=180261159488
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX- %3AIT&viewitem=&item=180261159488
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Let the discounting begin! :shades: :P
Looking at the auction history:
tmag2008( 0 ) US $31,110.00 Jul-13-08 16:10:42 PDT
2***3( 7 ) US $31,010.00 Jul-14-08 02:16:06 PDT
2***3( 7 ) US $30,001.00 Jul-13-08 15:56:04 PDT
tmag2008( 0 ) US $29,850.00 Jul-12-08 12:40:45 PDT
s***f( 409) US $26,969.00 Jul-08-08 19:27:52 PDT
a***8( 123) US $26,000.00 Jul-07-08 11:11:55 PDT
t***n( 38) US $25,000.00 Jul-05-08 19:17:28 PDT
a***8( 123) US $25,000.00 Jul-07-08 11:11:19 PDT
s***e( 6 ) US $20,100.00 Jul-04-08 08:04:04 PDT
t***n( 38) US $20,000.00 Jul-05-08 19:17:17 PDT
s***r( 508) US $15,000.01 Jul-04-08 11:14:27 PDT
s***r( 508) US $8,000.01 Jul-04-08 11:13:14 PDT
s***r( 508) US $1,000.01 Jul-04-08 11:12:25 PDT
Starting Price US $1.00 Jul-04-08 06:00:00 PDT
That lucky SOB
Man had I known about this, I would have placed my bid
How stupid can you be as a dealer. Ever heard of the "reserve" feature????????
I looked up this car on my locator just now. The car is still in dealer stock. This car has an invoice amount at $33873. Why put yourself in the position to sell a low volume, newly introduced model at $2773 under invoice????? Just seems like someone didn't know what they were doing. Wonder if they are trying to wiggle out of the deal..............
Oh yeah, and they only have one other Genesis in stock. Same pkg, but black. :lemon:
Who in their right mind would buy a $30k+ car on ebay from a seller with no feedback? Well, I guess it would be a buyer with no feedback as well. :P
I'm guessing the buyer was a shill for the seller to make sure the seller didn't take a bath on a car with no reserve - assuming the seller was legit.
Jeff speaks the truth!!!
Probably the first time working EBay?? - sorry I didn't look at the seller's profile.
However, not setting a reserve will cost you two grand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't hear of this happening too often!
Then again, maybe he just wanted to get a Genesis out on the street so that folks will see it and bring him some business. Definitely makes you wonder what the seller was thinking!!! :confuse:
1. I was rounding off and........
2. By the time that you figure holdback you are looking at $1716 to the negative, and........
3. If you (as a dealer) qualify for volume and HSI/CSI bonuses from HMA, you would be at a $866-$1716 loser, depending on your volume.
Regardless, by the time you strip out all of the backend factory money (that they may or may not qualify for), the dealer lost somewhere between $866-$1716, real, bottom line money. Oh yeah, minus whatever they pay their internet sales person. And the fee to eBay. This is getting worse and worse. I wonder if their company healthcare covers systemic stupidity? They DID NOT do this on purpose. No way. You do not have to sell this car at that kind of loss to get one out the door. Heck, if you were going to do that, give it away in a local promotion and get way more publicity while some other local businesses pick up most of the tab. Wonder if Geico is hiring?
I'm happy for the buyer. If they are smart, they could prob get a profit by selling to a dealer that is needing some cars. Just a thought. Or they can drive a car that they got a GREAT deal on. Come on, near 300hp, and most of the options for $31k. Sweet.
My sister dealer got their first car last Friday. Starting to think maybe we should have taken another car or two............................
We'll see.
The sales manager's whole plan is to negotiate down to MSRP if he has to. I don't agree with that for my store, but at the same time, I can't say that it's "wrong". There are a LOT of people that feel like they got a much better deal at $36k if they started at $38k, than telling them, "look, this is what it will be, no haggling". Kind of silly, IMO, but whatever floats your boat.
Curious as to what a "deal" is when everything is in black and white.........
Highlights:
Buyers can lease the V-6 model, which went on sale in June, for $399 per month for 24 months with $2,199 due at lease signing. Hyundai expects the V-6 to account for about 80 percent of the sales for the new luxury car.
A strong residual value from Automotive Lease Guide helped cut the cost of leasing.
The Santa Barbara, Calif., company, which sets residual standards for the industry, estimates that a 2009 Genesis will be worth 50 percent of its original sticker price after 36 months.
Wallace, who also sells Cadillacs and Lincolns, says the Genesis lease deal is $100 to $150 less per month than Cadillac now offers on the CTS, which Hyundai says is a prime competitor.
So where is that $379/month lease deal rotary talked about?
When I bought my last car a little over three years ago I called my insurance company (USAA) to tell them to add the new car and drop the old one, the woman said, "You know we would have done your bargaining for you."
Two weeks ago I went through my insurance company's web site and clicked on Hyundai filled out a form and shortly there after someone called. When I told him I was interested in the Genesis he of course said they didn't have any yet but expected them in soon. He said that I would get a good deal since I was with USAA. A few days later he called to tell me they had two but did not have one with the tech package. He said he would call when he gets one with a tech package.
This is a different dealer from the one where I drove the car today.
I also looked at a Cadillac CTS today. They had more than I could count. No one is buying cars. We are headed for a severe recession. Discounts are coming sooner rather than later.
2009 V6 MSRP $40,000.00
Sales Price $36,999.00 + TTL
2009 V8 MSRP $42,000.00
Sales Price $38,900.00 + TTL
ALL CASH
Los Angeles Area
If those are true then that's really not a good sign for the Genesis.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Maybe, just maybe....Hyundai started the price high knowing it would actually sell for $2-3K less than the reported price. At $38K, maybe that's what they were expecting to sell the fully loaded V-6 at. Who knows.
If you can buy those cars for under invoice like that, you should jump on them. Just seems like a TON of car for $38900.
Congratulations and good luck to you.