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-Rocky
I''ve never seen the Emperor's car, but I did see a beautiful "Infiniti" parked on the streets near the Ginza a few years back that had the most elegant tapestry upholstry on the seats. It was a heavily woven fabric (that I assumed to be silk). It was a gold material with other colors woven into the pattern. A lot nicer material than on my mother's sofa, but the same basic idea....
Since I saw that car, I've often wondered why Buick, Caddy, and Lincoln don't offer a really upscale cloth interior like that.
-Rocky
If you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic. :P
If Toyota only builds in US it's doomed for eternity with crappy poorly assembled Camrys.
Since all Camrys sold here are U.S. built they are ALL crappy and poorly assembled??? :confuse:
-Rocky
My grandfather had a Lincoln with upscale cloth in it that was very soft and plush. I think it was a 88' Signature series that was shorter than the other models. It was a very nice car for the times. Nicer than any Caddy from that era IMHO.
-Rocky
Well if GM becomes a league of imports I guess Ford will get my business. :sick:
-Rocky
From the article:
Between 2010 and 2014, GM's plan calls for a 98% increase in the number of vehicles it imports into the United States from China, Japan, Mexico and South Korea, he said.
:mad: I think it's time to take Fritz to the wood shed. :mad: You are going to take tax payer money and not build cars here??? This is the type of crap that makes me blow a gasket. If this is allowed to proceed forward then Ford will prosper as they will be the only real american car company left. I could drive a Taurus SHO or MKS. I told you guys when Wagoner left town GM was screwed. You can't allow a beancounter like Henderson to run a car company. Import cars from China? I hope Lou Dobbs, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, raise a stink!!!
-Rocky
Is this the fault of the UAW/CAW also ??? :surprise:
-Rocky
So, he went to ONE dealer, and that is GM's fault? Last time I checked, dealers were independent of the automakers. Maybe instead of crying to us, he should call GM customer service, or go to another dealer.
BTW, these comments in no way exonerate GM for the fault in the first place. I imagine had the problem been taken care of promptly, he wouldn't be whipped into such a frenzy.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Well, if they are, then the ones in Fremont California must be too.
-Rocky
-Rocky
More than likely if they are above the Orange County line. :shades:
Most of it spent on good paying middle class USA jobs. I would be surprised if some were not UAW jobs.
-Rocky
-Rocky
-Rocky
Whether rightly or wrongly, most buyers are not the savvy people we are here... :shades: ...if their dealer does not fix the problem, they get upset at the car...that may be why millions of folks have deserted the Big 3 in the last 2 decades...wouldn't it be ironic if the cars were all fixable, and it is all the dealer's fault, the one place that could have saved the customer for the Big 3...
No, that could not be, because that would take blame away from the underworked, overpaid, worthless, useless, unskilled, drunk, drugged, absentee (did I forget anything???) floorsweeper getting paid $35/hour plus benefits...
You know the acronym TANSTAAFL...there ain't no such thing as a free lunch...I gotta come up with something myself to abbreviate the bold print above, so I can keep it short but still keep rocky awake at the switch...
Speaking of rocky, I wish I knew a way to help out in divorce-land...here, 7 continuances would enrage a judge who wants their file to be closed...you sure sound like you have been ripped a new one, and your story would be uncommon here (I want to say never, but I can't be sure)...sure, some lawyers burn the clock, but that is not the norm...I can only wish you some luck in finding a lawyer...
Did you say why the other two quit after taking some/all of your money???...did she hire Johnny Cochran or some other superhuman being???...enquiring minds want to know...
Be grateful that lawyers are not part of the UAW, or they would ALL be worthless... :P
Unfortunately YES. Thailand and Japan built camrys are far superior in fit-finish, plus they're reliable as hell, given the fact that S.E Asia's warzone quality roads fail to give numerous problems to their Camrys. I know they're superior, because I'm driving one now. The only commonly found complaint here is suspension wear, not surprising considering the road quality (makes Michigan roads feel silky smooth by comparison).
But, the labor is cheap as hell and there's gloriously little in the way of social or environmental responsibility - paradise for the smarmy irresponsible globalist.
No disrespect, bud, but please save that comment oof yours until you've tried and compared those 2 cars yourself. I have.
Surely you mean Die. Dye is used in the chemical industry. Dye = Color.
Even taking the position that Toyota has had for the last 10 years, second biggest, is not bad. Everybody thought Toyota was great when they were second biggest. Is there a different way of looking at second place now that Toyota handed it to GM?
More people want a GM than any other vehicle out there. Is there a Toyota as desirable as the Camaro? Yes, when gas is $3.89 a gallon. Prius. But desirable for an entirely different set of reasons.
Really? When they're looking for a truck based SUV, I agree, nothing beats Tahoe. Large crossover, GM got Traverse. Looking for a muscle? Camaro's way better than a Mustang. Looking for supercar performance for the money? Vette is the answer.
Everything else? They'll look elsewhere.
of course he meant "dye"!
and he's a grandson of a dye maker, what's wrong with that?!
#!@%^&*$%#!!!
"Young Chrysler LLC retirees -- those in their late 40s or 50s -- better cross their fingers that a new Chrysler emerges out of bankruptcy court."
Chrysler survival critical for young retirees
Okay, that's BS. Can;t they think of a less obvious scam???
I agree with that. However, a little devil's advocate here. I wonder how this will affect their job searches. As of now, they could accept just about any salary from any employer for play money. Now, they are going to have to be a little more demanding, (and hence, a little more particular) with their job selection, as they would have to now look for health benefits, or money to pay for it.
This is the ironic part; I have often wondered how these early retirees ( I suppose I could include myself in this category, as I would be elegibile for retirement at 51) have affected the job market for younger people. First, by making themselves available, they increase the supply of workers, giving employers some leverage in what they have to offer, and second, if they are more willing to take a little extra cash in lieu of healthcare, it gives employers more leverage to NOT offer healthcare bennies to others (one example would be to hire 2 retirees part time as opposed to 1 full timer)
I retired in 96, but have maintained some type of part time job for "play" money.
About 2 years ago I moved my 401K money from the market into a "Stable Value" fund, and it has grown a little at 5% +/-. My wife's was invested more in the market and she lost about half in the last year. It hurts, but we are still able to live and even save a little each month without dipping into the 401K. YET!
A friend contributed strongly to a 401K. He retired early 2008.
First of 2008 he had near $400k in his 401K. It has dropped to near 100K.
He is torn between saving what is left by rolling the 100K into CDs or leaving it where it is and hoping the market will get better.
He and I will both be in a heap of trouble if Medicare and SS collapse, and the company is no longer able to pay the pensions. And that could happen!
Advice to the youngsters:
Save at least 10% of your income.
Contribute the maximum to a 401K, and save outside the 401 K in Bank IRA CDs
With the exception of a house, don't buy anything on credit.
If you see something you can't live without, save for it. You will appreciate it more.
I feel for the UAW retirees. Don't think anyone really knows their future. All their lives they believed in their union. They have a life style. However the UAW greed may well have contributed to their current situation and along with greed in the banks and housing market, sent this nation into the crisis it is in. This crisis contributes even more woes to the auto industry.
Would the D3 really have been in any better shape if the cars had been assembled by non union workers?
Possiblyprobably the fit and finish would have been more consistent if the assemblers knew they "Could" be terminated.But would the management and engineers have invested in quality parts and insisted that the dealers work to satisfy the customers? Would they have watched the market and designed cars the people want? Or would they still have waited until it may be too late?
Kip
I do think the management and engineering at GM has been substandard for many years. Especially on the top levels. My view is that any given vehicle has only so much room for labor and materials. The more you pay the unskilled the less available for engineering. I know there is no love lost between the departments. I have listened to engineers that complain that their pay gets cut when the UAW workers goes up. GM keeps laying off white collar workers by the 1000s. Either they were dead weight or they are the ones that are supposed to be improving the design of the vehicles. I can tell you if I was an engineer and watched some monkey without a high school education making more per year than I did, it would be tempting to slack off on doing my best. The idea that a fork lift operator at Delphi makes more than the bottom engineer to me is the major problem at the domestic auto industry. If engineers start at $50k per year a UAW fork lift operator should not make more than $25k per year. I would bet it is the other way around with the thugs at the UAW running the auto manufacturing in this country.
I always wonder how many people worrying about SS and Medicare not collecting enough in taxes from American workers and taxpayers to pay their benefits, spent earlier years buying foreign made products and moving jobs and taxpaying companies and workers to other countries instead of here where they would have supported the ever dwindling SS income for the Ponzi payout.
When the local paper does it's regular story about a down and out person, I always wonder what kind of car they drove, what items they bought for their home--foreign made or US made? Then they wonder whose going to pay the subsidy that they want or get.
www.howtobuyamerican.com.
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UAW? :P
COLUMBUS, GA. (AP) -- Kia auto supplier Johnson Controls will be in Columbus on Saturday seeking 100 qualified production workers for its 130,000-square-foot plant being built in West Point.
The Milwaukee-based company said the jobs will pay $9.50 to $11 an hour, depending on duties and work experience.
The job fair will take place from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. at the Georgia Department of Labor's Columbus Career Center.
The plant will make seat systems and door panels for the Kia Sorento sport utility vehicle that will be assembled at the main Kia plant in West Point.
When the Johnson Controls plant is in full operation, it will employ about 300. Those are among the estimated 7,500 Kia parts supplier jobs coming to the area.
WEST POINT, GA (AP) -- Officials expect thousands of applicants to seek jobs at a new Kia automobile assembly plant in west Georgia after the company began taking online applications Tuesday.
Kia Motors Corporation began taking applications about 11 a.m. The South Korea-based company said about 9,000 people had signed up at the Web site in advance of the announcement to receive an immediate alert when the application process opened.
Kia, which will manufacture the Sorento sports utility vehicle at its West Point, Ga., factory, is accepting applications only via the Internet.
Georgia's Kia plant is expected to create more than 2,500 jobs directly and many more at five nearby plants that supply parts.
Hiring is expected to begin in April. Cars should begin rolling off the assembly line in 2009.
West Point is about 75 miles southwest of Atlanta.
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Regards,
OW
When the local paper does it's regular story about a down and out person, I always wonder what kind of car they drove, what items they bought for their home--foreign made or US made? Then they wonder whose going to pay the subsidy that they want or get.
I think that most of us here would agree on the end goals (strong US auto industry), but disagree on which approach will help the most.
Some of us feel we should always buy American to support the jobs and industry.
Others of us feel that blindly buying US brands - even if they are inferior - just propagates mediocrity, and that's no way to be the best.
The analogy is your lazy teenager who is on drugs and getting F's at school. A loving parent might keep giving him what he wants and trying to convince him to change. Another set of parents might feel that they should kick his [non-permissible content removed] out of the house at 18 - learn to make it on your own, the world is a cruel place. Go to detox and get a job.
Well Chapter 11 is detox for the D2. We are not D2 haters. We just hate how they are now, versus how they could be. All that potential wasted for 30 years! Our kids are now 40 and still shiftless drug addicts. It's time to get it together.
I don't know what the cost of living is like in Georgia, but if you offered that pittance in Philly, all you're going to get is the dregs of the employment market. Look for a lot of guys with extensive criminal backgrounds. Your "workers" will be too busy selling drugs, goofing-off, and stealing equipment from you to assemble any auto parts.
for jobs that will pay $9.50 to $11 an hour
Most companies paying that high of a starting wage in CA will do an extensive background check. If you have a felony in your past it is not likely you will get anything better than minimum wage. I would imagine the cost of living is just as high in CA as it is in Philadelphia. Just like you have found. Without a decent education you are not going to get a decent job. The UAW jobs were based on a shortage of labor. Henry Ford raised the workers pay, long before the UAW was on the scene to keep his employees. You pay what the market will bear. If you want to keep good workers you pay a little more than the competition. Getting tied to a Union contract in a competitive business is a sure way to bankrupt the company. Only public jobs and a few exempt industries can pass the cost of high labor onto the consumer. Such as the Utilities. Those are monopolies. GM used to have a monopoly. Not anymore, legacy and labor is killing them.