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Chevrolet Aveo Engine Problems



  • I have also had the same problem with an 04 Aveo that I purchased used.(I also own an 07 and have not had this problem to date.) I have used Mobile 1 and Fram, and both have leaked at the gasket on the 04. The last oil change I have installed AC/Delco filters on both cars, I am hoping this will solve the oil leak issue on the 04.
  • flaaveoflaaveo Posts: 161
    I have found that you have to put the filter on VERY tight no matter the brand. The factory filter is on SO tight when you remove it on the very first oil change, you need arms made of solid steel to get it off! After that,just be sure to oil the gasket,and put the new one on tight,not AS tight as the factory filter. That is just CRAZY tight! But very tight. I have not had a leak ever,on this or any car/truck in my life. I guess luck or I take my time and put them on straight and tight??? But this car seems to like a VERY tight filter for some reason. :confuse:
  • The other day I went outto my car to go to work and it would not start. I took the starter of and had it tested, not the problem. It is not the battery either. Has anyone had this problem and do you know what is wrong? The fuel pump is the next part to check out. Please help.
  • Hi,

    Mine had a blown CPU last Feb.. That is/ was the only reason my wouldn't start. Did you have a cold night or cold wet night. That seems to blow them according to my dealer.

  • CPU? It was cold.
  • From what I was told by my local dealer, there were 15000 cases in Canada along in Feb. last year. Mine is an 06 svm. I hope for your case it's not the cpu. They told me 3 months to get one, depending on low parts supply thanks to Daewoo. It really took about a week. I think they pulled one from another because I saw a new one next to it in the shop.

  • pbupbu Posts: 1
    My 06 Aveo did the same thing last January or February when it got really cold (-10F to -20F). The dealer replaced a control module and everything has been fine so far.
  • get the haynes guide at advanved or auto zone the specs are in there . Or go to the dealer and buy the repair manual
  • hammillhammill Posts: 10
    I have an 06 Aveo sedan 5speed with 22,000 miles on it this past thursday i got in the parking ramp leaving work at 6:30 pm and it was about 0 out. Started her up and it made a please don't start me sound ,then when waiting for it to warm up it started chugging and the rpm gauge was all over as the idle was jumping.had no power as i tried to drive so i pulled over and shut it off after a series of starting and shuting off it smoothed out and i got to the gas station and put in some heet.thought the gas line was froze but with the ethanol in the fuel here in Minnesota i thought that wouldn't happen. Anyway it started fine the next morning the engine light shut off and now all is fine.Should i go get it looked at or asume it was a frozen fuel line?By the way my mileage never went down since which also makes me think its ok.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I would at least call or stop by the dealer and let them know.
  • I see there are a lot of folks that got shafted by Chevy . This is my last of 6 chevys I also have a 04 Malibu Maxx which gets as good mileage as the Aveo . First it was the Motor , it ate a seal which trashed the lifters then the pistons then the rods .Then it was the front end crunching and wobbling Rotors then it was the brakes , then a engine light Oxy . sensor replaced ,but the biggest thing is the drifting at 50-65 MPH on the 4 lane . I thought it was tire separation Nope new tires didn't help . This car is a very unstable platform and wind makes it even worse . I had the front end aligned no help . The service writer noticed the swaying but could not find anything wrong and said that all the aveos are like that . WOW that dosnt make it right , it means that there are a lot of dangerous Aveo out there Now to find a Lawyer
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I am 53, retired and average 12K miles a year on a car. I consider myself a conservative driver with no moving violations... ever.

    Like you, I just replaced a 05 Aveo Hatchback LT (had every available option) with a Nissan Altima 2.5 with all the options...I had the same suspension experience as you, and could not get more than 20K miles out of the front tires before replacing. And, it was time for the 2nd replacment moonroof, as the 1st replacement had ceased to tilt after 10 months of useage....I did get 2 years out of the original moonroof. The Aveo was garaged when not in use, and was well cared for...

    The ironic thing....The best in-town mileage on the Aveo was 25, 31 Hwy. I have not been on a long trip in the Nissan yet, but around town the mpg is 27...much more room, comfort, etc. and 2 mpg better, all on regular gas. Go figure...

    The local Chevy dealer could double as the Dale Ernhart fan club, and doesn't inspire confidence in any way.

    Like you, I am done with Chevy AND GM.
  • Just picked up a new 07 aveo LT off the local chevy lot about a month ago. Really like the car, but I am starting to see some things that concern me. I live in NC, and it is about normal for winter here. Pretty cold in the morning but nothing to get excited about. Anway, some mornings when I turn the key the engine sputters and sounds like "oh no, did you have to try and start me up". It settles off but yet something doesn't sound or seem right with it.

    Also, the dummy lights that come on when you start the car...they all cut off after a few seconds (like normal), but the parking brake light and the battery light stay illuminated. This lasts for about 2-3 minutes or so, then they fade out. The parking brake is not engaged. Not sure what to think....taking my car to the dealer tomorrow.

    If this is a sign of things to come, well, I guess I will have to see.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    What are you going to do when your Nissan goes bad, buy another one? My old neighbors Sentra lost its engine when its timing belt broke but he didn't mention that he would never buy another Nissan.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I can see why you would ask that question, based upon the limited comments in the earlier posting. Like you suggest in your question, does 1 bad customer experience make all of a manufacturer's products inferior?

    Of course it doesn't. We all know that every manufacturer makes lemons...its a fact.

    I have attempted to buy American products since I began buying cars in the late 60's. My 1st car was a 69 bare bones Chevy Nova, 6 cylinder 2-speed didn't even have carpeting (instead, it had a rubber mat). It got great gas mileage, but required a new water pump every 10K miles...not much of an issue, as they were cheap, and replacement took about 1 or 2 hours on a Saturday afternoon. Of course, there wasn't much to break, so it was pretty reliable.

    After that, I bought a 71 Nova (again, pretty reliable, but also bare bones...this time, I had a 350 CID and a 3-speed automatic).

    This is where my experience with GM started taking a turn for the worse. My next sequence of cars, in succession (with major problems listed).....

    1973 Pontiac Catalina - Warped front rotors, detached dashboard from firewall. many rattles.

    1975 Pontiac Astre-(Pontiac's version of the Chevy Vega) - Severe engine problems. Anyone who had a Vega is well aware of GM's failed attempt on this aluminum engine design.

    1976 Ford Courrier Pickup (Made by Mazda). Base truck, 90K miles with no problems at all.

    1978 Chrysler Lebarron- 110K miles, replaced front brake calipers at 70K miles.

    1980 Plymouth Voyager - Transmission died at 77K miles, Chrysler replaced with a factory rebuilt unit at no charge.

    1982 S-10 Blazer - Multiple rear brake problems, never repaired correctly. Automatic transmission leaked from day one, and eventually seized at 35K miles. Front floorboards would fill with water after heavy rain, but only at random times. Leaking problem was never resolved. Rear tailgate/glass rattled incessantly. When looking up the definition of "lemon" in the dictionary, a picture of this vehicle should be visable.

    1984 Dodge Pickup- Base truck, destroyed by a drunk driver (in another vehicle) while parked in my driveway.

    1985 Dodge 600 - Required new fuel injectors at 70K miles.

    1986 Dodge 600 Convertible - Replaced hydraulic motor that lowered top after 2000 other problems.

    1990 Plymouth Acclaim - Didn't have the car long before I encountered another vehicle headed the wrong way in my lane. Airbag worked great!

    1991 Chrysler Cirrus - No problems other than an incessant squeak in the dash that I never could locate.

    1993 Plymouth Voyager - A great vehicle, only had to replace a defective spark plug wire right after purchase.

    1996 Jeep Cherokee- Transmission started having shifting problems at 35K miles. Repaired correctly under warranty. Seat heater replaced at 40K miles.

    1998 Chevrolet Metro -Reliable car, but A/C worked poor at best. Would not cool on a really hot day, but 2 GM service depts. claimed it was working according to specs (one tech agreed that it still didn't cool the car sufficiently).

    2000 Chrysler T & C - Washer fluid bottle replaced under warranty.

    2000 Chrysler Concorde- #6 cylinder pumped oil from day one, using a quart of oil every 600 miles. Chrysler refused to repair, saying this was acceptable oil useage. This attitude turned me off from Chrysler.

    2002 VW Beetle - Daughter's problems.

    2004 Toyota Corolla- Other daughter's car.Rock solid car, no problems.

    2005 Mini Cooper - Temp sending unit leaked at 24 K miles, repaired under warranty.

    2005 Aveo - 2 bad Moonroofs, excessive front tire wear, car interior parts began coming loose at 25K miles...lots of rattles.

    2007 BMW Z4- No problems.

    2008 Nissan Altima. New car.

    The point here is that I have never had a GM automobile get 50K miles without a significant problem. Overall, I was happy with Chrysler until 2000, when they refused to fix an oil burning issue on the Concorde.

    At the same time, I had several friends running Hondas, Toyotas and other imports without significant problems, putting significant miles on these cars.

    As to your neighbor's Sentra...what was the mileage when the belt broke?

    Last of all, my specific opinion of the Aveo is that, if you buy the basic model and all you want is basic transportation, you will probably be satisfied overall, but a little unhappy with te MPG. If you did like I did, and buy a loaded LT Aveo, my guess is that you will be somewhat less than happy with it, given you keep it for a few years.
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    For the most part a cars success reliability wise is owner related. Brake issues such as warped rotors doesn't sound like a manufacture defect to me and rarely is. If it was that way after buying soon after driving home than yes that is not good but the majority of warped rotors are created during service work when taking off the wheels and then over-tightning the lug nuts. This was especially common on Japanese cars that for years and now use lighter thinner rotors and one good torque of the lugnuts bent those rotors. Now all the American cars for the most part use these same cheap rotors that generally when they wear out you can't even spin them once to resurface because there is just not enough metal left.

    My neighbors Sentra timing belt went at 114,000 miles or so. I wouldn't doubt that this car probably didn't have the proper maintenance thus the chain probably wasn't serviced properly, don't know for sure. A lot of consumers are unaware of how to maintain a car and rarely open an owners manual. My experiences are just the opposite of yours with little to no problems from the American cars and trucks I buy but on the other hand I have known many people who bought Japanese and they have the kind of issues you have had with your American brand cars.

    Toyota dealer service is famous for telling customers that their warranty or non-warranty repair is just wear and tear thus leading to a false consumer perception and positive continued Toyota corporation profit. Toyota put the engine sludge problem blame on the owners when it was an engine design flaw. When being threatened with lawsuits they quickly responded and serviced those engines and extended the warranty. Toyota's recent rush to be # 1 is starting to hurt their reputation with poor quality cars and more warranty claims. The Camry a few years ago was considered the most reliable car in its class but now it is what, # 3 last I looked. Recalls are at an industry high for Toyota the last few years with Chrysler close behind. American cars (not every model) have been there for years as far a reliability but the perception hasn't caught up to that.

    The Japanese did the American manufactures a favor in getting them to build a car better because if they didn't they would nolonger be in business. So yes they have helped out the consumer to get better vehicles to drive. JD Powers continually has American cars (Buick) at the top of the most trouble free longterm which is an evaluation based on 3-years, 45,000 miles of ownership. The lazy UAW helped in hurting the American car industry by not caring what they were doing and for jokes sake hanging beer/soda cans and other things on strings in hard to reach places to rattle away while the cars are being driven thus annoying drivers. I bet you never heard of that one but yes they did all kinds of terrible things intentionally back in the 1960's and 70's and who knows longer.

    I worked for many auto dealers during my lifetime with ending that career choice back in the 1980's selling cars for first Mazda, Nissan, and Chevrolet. I also worked as a porter before that at another Nissan dealership, Chevrolet, and Toyota. I don't agree with the reliability rating system because what exactly does that mean? All cars are going to start so that may mean that maybe the seatbelt didn't latch properly. The headlight burnt out faster. The freon leaked out of its compressor? What I saw was that the Japanese cars, which they are known for having better fit and finish in the past had that while working around them. The paint jobs and detail were just better, thats it. Not if the engine would start and last that is mostly a mith created by smart marketing and people believe it. To me it felt like night and day going from Nissan to Chevrolet. The Nissans and Toyota's had the better fit and finish but the Chevrolets seemed much safer/solid because they weighed more and had thicker steel. I felt more comfortable in one of those cars. Body shops had/have a term for metal replacement. When replacing a door or fender they either use OEM or what they call [non-permissible content removed] parts. What that means is that the metal is either thicker OEM or the cheap Japanese thin metal. Todays American cars use the thinner metal to save costs and don't have the heavy metal like they did from the mid 1990's and before so they are no different then their Japanese neighbor.

    Companies like Consumer Reports have done a dis-service when it comes to cars because of the way that they accumulate information. Are you aware that their statistics are based only on payed subscribers who answer their surveys. Who are these people, what are their demographics, why did they reply or decide not to reply? Its just not legitimate information from a company that admitted in a big apology last years scandal that it outsourced the child safety seat test in which 8-11 seats were reported to be subpar which was not the case and was corrected. I will consider their information when it comes to lawnmowers, paint, appliances, etc., but will go to automotive sources including magazines, Wards and JD Power to get real testing and consumer information when it comes to cars/trucks.

    Now you can see why I would question someone on their go Japanese not American preferences and I am not even going to bring up the lost jobs that have occured because of people who chose not to support American companies. We can go there if you wish but for now I will leave it at that.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    We are in agreement on several issues you mentioned. Ratings and surveys are only as good as their responses, which are always biased to some degree.

    Like you, I don't have a lot of trust in Consumer's Reports, as I have always felt that they had their own agenda. As an example, a couple of years ago I purchased a plasma TV with the cablecard option, eliminating the need for a cable box receiver (an option touted as a "plus" by CU). After having difficulty getting it to work, I did quite a bit of research on the net, finding rampant problems with cablecards. When I contacted CU to get their take on it, they had no idea of any problems with this option.

    That spoke volumes to me...either they were being untruthful, or their "extensive" testing wasn't that extensive after all.

    And, yes, for years I tried to buy American when it came to big ticket items. But, like I said earlier, after having several friends driving imports and not having the issues that I had, it opened my eyes. And, while I am certainly no fan of the UAW, you can't lay all the blame on them. I have heard stories from family/friends that were union members that would make your blood boil, and I can remember being at trade shows in places like Chicago and not being able to plug in an electric cord, as that was a "UNION" responsibility. if I wasn't capable of doing the task myself.

    However, the manufacturing sector has also made its contributions.

    For example, a recent article in USA Today spoke about GM's icon (On-Star) will stop working in many GM products made as recently as some 2005 models, due to the wireless networks discontinuing analog cell service in the near future. I don't know about you, but I have had digital service since the late 1990's. This was a concious decision by GM to save a few pennies at the customer's expense. They are not alone in penny pinching...How about Ford and the brake lite sending unit/cruise control related fires? For years, Ford knew that having constant power to the sending unit could cause a fire if there was hydraulic fluid leakage. Also, remember the Pinto gas tank issue, or the GM truck gas tank issue in the 80's and early 90's.

    And, the biggest screwing of all?

    GM's attempt to convert a gasoline engine design to a cheap diesel during the oil embargo of the early 70's, even though they had the intelligence and manpower to supply a reliable engine. We are still suffering from this ill-fated travesty, and to this day have difficulty finding a diesel powered American automobile.

    Believe me, there is enough blame to go around in Detroit for all to share.

    Last of all, exactly what is American today, when you give it some thought....???

    My new Nissan was make in Canton, Mississippi. My BMW Z4 coupe was make in Spartanburg, SC. My Aveo was made in Korea. All are serviced and sold by local dealers, who are primarily American citizens (I assume they are, anyway)...Just about any electronic device made today comes from China, regardless if it has HP, Apple or Motorola on the label.

    Arrogance, by both the UAW and the manufacturers got the American auto sector into the fix it finds itself today. Yes, I also remember the early days of Japanese imports. The Honda Civic was more like a go-cart. The early small truck imports had single wall truck beds, and it was rare to see one that didn't have dents due to cargo shifting around in the bed.

    But that was 40 years ago, and in my opinion, GM still hasn't "gotten" it. Until the management of GM starts thinking in a more consumer oriented way, and actually accepts that the imports are "true"competition, I fear that GM will continue to loose market share. Funny thing, Toyota closes in on GM, it appears that they are incorporating some of GM's philosophy, which I expect will start showing up in their build quality...time will tell....

    Ford appears to be making an attempt at becoming more adept, and Chrysler has gone private, with the ex-head of Home Depot at the helm (what were they thinking???).

    SUV and light truck sales have kept Detroit going over the last few years. I wonder what will happen in the next 10, 20 years????
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    One thing the Japanese companies did good was force the American companies to put better products on the road. I am talking about craftsmanship-fit and finish. The truck thing really hurt the American manufactures. Sure they have always had the best trucks but at the expense of mostly average cars with a few being very good as well. No manufacture domestic or import has a model in every catagory that is best in class, thats what makes it such a competitive market nowadays.

    I agreed with the Japanese prime minister some 15-20 years ago when he toured the auto plants and said the UAW workers were lazy. It was about time someone said something to get them to wake up and realize it is not fun and games anymore. I know what you mean by a union contractors having to plug a cord in and how much they overcharge for their services. A friends neighbor is a union window installer and he makes six figures doing that. I can also see why Toyota goes out-of-their-way to avoid states that have unions and to seek part-time employees to save on benefits. That may morally wrong, but it is a smart business decision no matter how bad it appears. American manufactures have been forced to seek parts from China, Japan, and Mexico because everyone else is doing it to stay competitive price wise. Have you seen the domestic content of a Camry recently, I haven't but read in an article that it has dipped below 60%. Toyota as a whole including their other devisions brings their domestic content to below 60% as well while GM is still floating at 75% overall but who knows how long that will last.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    The only way I can see the domestic automotive industry surviving is to finally begin giving the customer what they want. The big 3 continuously say that they are simply giving the consumer what they, big gas guzzling SUV's, etc. They say small, fuel efficient cars don't sell very well.

    Well, why should they? Try to get a smaller car with lots of options on it and see what you find. Try to find electric seats or a nav system on a small domestic auto. For years, the domestic producers intentionally made smaller cars sub-standard to encourage big car sales. Henry Ford II famously said that "Small cars mean small profits.".

    The industry says there isn't a demand for diesel...Right...Go to your nearest VW dealer and ask him how happy he is that VW delayed the sale of diesel Jettas until the 09 model year, to be released this fall. I recently read on Edmunds that one VW dealer says over 33% of new car buying prospects at his dealership come there looking for diesel power.

    Will the domestics finally catch on? I am not optimistic. In the case of potentially unemployed auto workers, I really hope I am wrong. I guess we'll see....
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    A lot of consumers who are buying the diesels aren't aware of the added costs.
    Sure they generally get better mileage than a comparative gas engine (except for the Mercedes sourced antique low-tech Jeep diesel engines) but they cost more and the price of diesel is now higher as well. How long will it take in fuel savings to pay off the higher price of the diesel equipt car? The diesel fuel thing the last time I looked was 70 cents more per gallon. When there is more demand for diesel the diesel fuel will go higher and higher because that is the American way sad to say. I believe this whole thing especially the recent surge in diesel fuel is all politically motivated and someone is getting money under the table.
  • flaaveoflaaveo Posts: 161
    Just wanted to post something into this forum. No one posts,except me, lately. I changed my oil and filter today at 6 months, and 1,850 miles! Thats a lot of miles for me. But it was 6 months. I used the same full Synthetic oil that I used last time, I got it for less than plain Dino oil, on sale, I should have stocked up! It was like $1.50 a quart. Valvoline full Synthetic, and got a top of the line filter. I always forget its name. It is the deep metallic blue one that costs $6 each! And is suppose to have an anti siphon feature, and more filter pleats in it etc.... I threw out the box and the trash already came by. It is Micronic? Anyway..after 6 months, even though it was only 1,850 mils, I just couldnt let it stay in the engine anymore.
    I usually go for 3 months. BUT since I use Synthetic, I know I can go a lot longer, many more miles, but I just feel better when the car has clean oil in it.
    AND I am finally getting a whopping 19 mpg! Without trying. I guess it is finally broken in, and the Syn.oil and Bosch plugs help. So I have gone from 14-17mpg on a good day. To 19-20 mpg on the past 4 fill ups. Maybe there is hope for this engine.

    I saw someone selling a Daewoo Lanos hatchback, in mint condition. It looked like a car I would own. Not a mark on it or in it. BUT they wanted $4,500 for it. A bit much for that old of a subcompact car. and a company that no longer exsists in the USA...except for OUR Aveos. I think it is was a 1998.? The weird thing was that it said, 'the engine is the same as the one in the Nissan Sentra'! This is the same engine that is in our Aveos, except now it has the 4 valves per cylinder instead of only 2. I know our engines come from Daewoo...since GM owns Daewoo, to make our engines and build our Aveos, but how did Nissan get into the mix? Anyone know? :confuse:
  • timsehtimseh Posts: 24
    OK, you don't put a lot of miles on it... how long is your average trip? I'm astounded that your mileage is that low. I've heard some people reporting disappointing mileage, but that seems wrong unless you're either sitting at a dead stop with the air running for a large part of your daily commute or are driving very very short trips. (alternately, you don't have a hoodlum teenager nearby that's siphoning your gas, do you?)

    I've only got about 800 miles on my 08 LS Sedan now, but on my last fill up, I managed 35 MPG in 80% highway driving.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I remember reading somewhere that the Aveo gets it engine from a GM owned plant on Australia, but that might not be correct. It would, however, expalin the low-tech features on the engine, as GM seems to be behind the curve on new technology, especially in samller compact cars.

    By the way, the best mileage I ever got around town was 25 MPG and 31 MPG hwy (US gallons). I experimented with running hi-test gas, and it did increase the MPG, but not enought to make up for the cost difference per gallon. My Aveo was a 05 automatic LT model, and for those out there who think anyone who isn't getting 40+ mpg have our foot in the carb, well, they are simply flat-out wrong. I would LOVE to see someone show me their Aveo getting 40+ mpg and driving normal highway speed limits (as I said, regular speed limits, not 90 mph)..

    Folks, driving 45 mpg on the interstate highway doesn't count, since that isn't a realistic expectation, in my opinion.
  • flaaveoflaaveo Posts: 161
    If I put 4 miles a day on it ,I am lucky. It is 100% city driving. I see you have not read all my posts about my horrible gas mileage. About half the other Aevo owners say the same thing, the other half are like you, getting these unreal amounts from a tank of gas. I've had it checked by Chevy two times for computer error,and they say it is running perfect. I installed Bosch 4's spark plugs the first week of owning it,brand new...then my first oil change, i switched it over to Synthetic oil,that put it up to like 15 mpg, IF I drove like a little old lady. BUT now the past 3 tanks, I am getting 18-20mpg...more towards 18mpg...but I hit 20 every so often.

    I did fill up one time on 93 octane,but at $3.55 a gallon, I did it once! Since then it has gotten 18-20mpg on the last 3 tanks.
    No one is stealing my gas, it is locked, remember:) the tank cover is locked.
    I think it did need to hit over 5,000 miles to break in. But the Synthetic oil and Bosch plugs help a lot! And now they are helping more.
    So, maybe one day,before I trade in on something that gets 30+ on gas alone, or a hybrid Civic, I'll get 22mpg out of it. :D
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    I also ran synthetic oil in mine. I say "ran" because I recently sold it. It had 34K miles, and the body was beginning to implode. Door handles came loose, and the area of the dash that holds the instruments came loose. Also, the moonroof ceased working in the "tilt" mode, and this was the 2nd moonroof on the car.

    All this, and more, on a car that was garaged when not in use and never saw a mile on a dirt road. I swear, my Aveo was put together without any wrenches...they only tightened the fastners "hand-tight".

    Mechanically, speaking in a "reliability" frame of reference, I had no problems. No oil useage or oil leaks, and the car never left me stranded. I did, however, find the suspension "creaking and moaning" somewhat bothersome, but it didn't affect reliability.

    I religiously changed the oil/filter every 6 months or 5k miles, and I found that synthetic oil did seem to improve the mileage 1-2 mpg, but I can't scientifically prove it.

    I had intended to keep this car for several years, but when I saw the costs that I would have to pay to fix the sunroof when the car was out of warranty, I knew it was time to unload this vehicle and cut my losses.

    My opinion on the Aveo is that there will be 2 types of owners...the guy who buys the bare-bones car at a great price and puts tons of miles on it will probably be satisfied, but the guy who buys the loaded LT version, like I did, will probably wind up being somewhat disappointed in his vehicle.
  • timsehtimseh Posts: 24
    No, I'm still getting caught up here. I haven't had time to read through everything.

    I do have to say, though, that driving 4 miles a day, I'm not surprised at the mileage you're getting. That's barely enough to get it up to operating temperature.

    I don't think what I'm getting is unreal at all. 35 MPG highway, doing 65 over relatively flat terrain for several hundred miles seems perfectly reasonable. Those same couple hundred miles of city driving, maybe 30 miles of that a day, nets me about 26-27 MPG. About what I would expect.

    It's really too bad that true plug in electrics aren't a reality in the U.S. yet (at least not an affordable option). You sound like you'd be the perfect candidate.

    I'd be curious to know what your mileage would be like if you took it out for a weekend road trip some time. I'll bet you'd see a huge difference.

    I seem to recall (and I'm no expert) that there are basically 2 types of hybrids. Those designed for highest economy in city driving, and those designed for highway economy. I never really paid attention to which is which because, frankly, with my driving habits, I wouldn't save enough in gas to pay the difference between, say a Honda Civic and an identical Civic Hybrid.

    I'm afraid that if you traded for something that is rated at 30+ on gas alone, you'll end up in the same boat you're in now unless your driving habits change.

    And please note, when I talk about driving habits, I'm not implying that you drive like some hopped up teenage kid (god, that statement dates me, doesn't it?). I'm talking about putting 4 miles a day on your car. Heck, if I had a commute that short, I'd just ride a bike or get a scooter... Actually, I home office, so I don't put many miles on my car either, but when I do, it tends to be in the range of 30-50 miles at a time, or over 150 at a time depending on the clients I'm going to see. I'll have the occasional 800-1000 mile trip on there as well, but haven't had the opportunity to do that since I purchased mine.
  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    Information on GM engines from Wikipedia...looks like they are made in Melbourne, Australia....

    I think someone got the Nissan Sentra confused with the Daewoo Gentra....see below...

    Holden makes various Family II engines for GM India and GM Daewoo at its Melbourne plant. Variations include displacements from 1.6 L. to 2.4 L. Unlike the Ecotec engines, the block is made of iron.

    [edit] L34
    This is the 2.0L (1998cc) variant of the engines, featuring 86mm bore and 86mm stroke. Power is 119hp (89kW) @ 5400rpm and torque is 126ft·lbf (171N·m).

    The engine has been used on following vehicles:

    Chevrolet Optra
    Chevrolet Evanda
    Suzuki Reno
    Suzuki Forenza

    [edit] Other models
    1.6 L - Daewoo Kalos, Daewoo Gentra, Chevrolet Aveo
    1.8 L - Chevrolet Lacetti, Chevrolet Nubira, Chevrolet Rezzo
    C24SE, *2.4 L SOHC - Isuzu Rodeo
    2.4 L DOHC - Chevrolet Captiva, Opel Antara
  • poncho167poncho167 Posts: 1,178
    I have a neighbor who has one of those Daewoo's and it is working for them. They never shared engines with Nissan. Nissan is having enough problems with their 4-cylinder engines nowadays with their recalls.
  • blufz1blufz1 Posts: 2,045
    you can go 9 mos to 1 year if it's full synthetic and only3-4k miles.
  • c118fec118fe Posts: 23
    I changed to full syn.I plan to only change the filter @ 7500 mi and top off.Let the filter do its work and see how clean the oil stays.
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