Hyundai Santa Fe 2007+

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  • jpanozzo1jpanozzo1 Member Posts: 50
    The 2007 Mitsubishi Outlander headrests have more material and padding than the seats.

    Joe in Texarkana
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    That's probably the key in any accident. To be truly safe, the other vehicles must impact the frame rails.
  • booster94booster94 Member Posts: 2
    So your dealer let you order one? i wanted to do that and I was told that "we can't order imports" which seemed like nonsense considering these are made in Alabama. I was looking for a Limited AWD, Black with gray interior and the ultimate pkg. Guess I'm gonna have to hope one becomes available in the next month or so when my current lease is up. I wish all dealers would get on the same page with this stuff.
  • danf1danf1 Member Posts: 897
    We can't truly order one from the factory. We can "preference" one on our allocation, and if it is built to those specs, we get it. It sounds like dealers say we'll order one simply because that is what the customer wants to hear.
  • autoboy16autoboy16 Member Posts: 992
    That is it!!
    Hyundaiusa added the specs for the 3rd row. It seems usable. The picture they have says otherwise... I'd post it but its copyrighted so i post a link to it :)

    -Cj :)
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    It's a bit bigger than's the Pacifica's 3rd row which is fine for an adult to ride in for short trips. Does anyone know if the 2nd row seats can be moved backward and forward?
  • ergsumergsum Member Posts: 146
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t95s-k7wO2Q&search=hyundai

    Video is in German, but has some good visuals.
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    Heres some comments from video:
    The tester is impressed with overall Hyundai improvements from previous generation, which had won several awards.
    0 to 100kph(62 mph): 11.6 sec.
    2/3 of sales forecast to be FWD, then a discussion of how the AWD transfers power to rear wheels when slippage detected.
    This vehicle has decidedly Euro look and feel about it, comparing it with VW product.
    He complains about headroom, for 185 cm male(almost 6'1") The diesel engine receives praise.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I'll bet that 0-100kph time is for the diesel. My guess is that the 3.3L is somewhere in the upper 8 second range.
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    The 60-split seat (behind the driver) folds down; the 40-split seat folds down and can be flipped forward. Neither side slides, but I hear that it's fairly easy to get to the third-row seats. Of course, "fairly easy" is a very relative term depending mainly upon weight, flexibility, and coordination, as is (referring to the last post) whether a given vehicle has enough headroom -- it depends more on one's preferred driving position and upper-body-to-leg ratio than overall height.

    Mike
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    It was for the diesel, but the 2.7 will be similarly Testudine-esque. One source indicated that he thought the 0-60 time lands somewhere in the 7-s range for the 3.3 FWD. I guess we'll have to wait and see....
    :)

    Mike
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    A 0-60 time in the 7-s range would make it pretty comptetive with the Rav-4 V6, which is pretty good considering the Santa Fe has 26 less hp and is larger and heavier.
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    I'm pretty sure he says the initial test uses the 198PS(Pferde-Starke) V6. If a German horse power is the same as our HP, then accel test uses the 2.7l motor.
    Why is it that we don't get diesel engines here ? Is our diesel fuel really too dirty for the new common rail diesel engines ? ..or does gas need to double again, for us to change our buying habits.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I think it has more to do with our buying habits than anything else. People are still fascinated with faster cars, trucks, and suvs. The common misconception is that diesels are only for towing. I would definitely buy a diesel though. There is far more potential energy in a gallon of diesel than a gallon of gasoline, and they get better fuel economy. A diesel will also last longer than a gasoline engine when taken care of.

    Jeep will be offering a diesel Grand Cherokee (sourced from Mercedes) next year, and some Volkswagen cars with diesels are becoming more popular. Maybe we are in for a change.
  • lok888lok888 Member Posts: 1,788
    It looks like a half a seat for some big kids these days.
  • jpanozzo1jpanozzo1 Member Posts: 50
    Curb weight for A RAV4 2wd with a V6 is about 3550 lbs
    HP 269 and torque 246

    Curb weight for a SF 2wd with 3.3 V6 is almost 300 lbs more at 3846
    HP 242 and torque 225

    An extra 300 lbs is a lot...and with lower hp/torque is more like an extra 600 lbs everything else being equal. That's one reason for the RAV's better gas mileage with higher HP. I think 0 to 60 low eight second range is more like it..and quite acceptable. I test drove a SF and did not push it as it was new, but it didn't seem like a seven second rig. Time will tell.

    Joe in Texarkana
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    Higher hp and torque do not always make for performance. It's all about the curve. Which engine keeps those hp and torque numbers higher for longer will make the biggest difference. I don't know about the actual curve, but I do know that the Rav4 makes it peak number 200rpms later than the Santa Fe.
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    Heres a diesel review by a New Zealand publication.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU0607/S00137.htm

    The 2.2l CRD, turbo:
    Hows 335 Nm/ 247 lb-ft of torque between 1800-2500 RPM and 47 mpg(Imperial) average. Also cruises 2000rpm @ 100kph.
    I'd like to see it here, in N/A.
    I think Dr.Z at D-C has big plans for diesels in N.A, after this hemi thing fades.
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    Hmm.... you're probably right, but for the fun of it, I'll venture a guess of 7.9 seconds to 60 for the 3.3 FWD.
    ;)

    Anyone else?

    Mike
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I guess everyone's smart enough not to guess against you. ;)
  • danf1danf1 Member Posts: 897
    8.3 seconds
  • antoninbantoninb Member Posts: 49
    I would also be interested in comments that anyone may have around anticipated frequency and cost of valve maintenance. IMHO, a key factor to consider in whether or not this vehicle remains on my short list. Thanks!
  • chantellewchantellew Member Posts: 12
    Tested a Deepwater Blue SE ..just beautiful..all gray inside(a little to much gray for me). I love the exterior...Hyundai did a great job in that department.

    The material of the seats appear to be cheaply made and easily stained. Plus cushion is not that thick for a voluptuous woman. The inside was already a little dirty. IMHO...don't even bother getting the cloth...the leather trim looks a little premium and is a better investment. The sales rep said they would have leather trim available in both the SE and Limited trims (so he says...lol).

    I am waiting on the dealership to get a Deepwater Blue with black leather interior...then I will be a happy 1st time Hyundai owner!!!
  • chantellewchantellew Member Posts: 12
    I wanted the third row and was willing to wait on one. After seeing the new Santa fe in person today, I don't even see how it's possible to add a third row to make it seven passenger. That is a waste of time. IMO if one really wants a 7 passenger that bad they should wait on the larger Hyundai (Mesa/TBD) when it comes out. HMMM I just may do the same. My thinking is the base model for the Mesa would probably compare interior-wise to the Hyundai Santa Fe Limited model comparably priced.
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    On that note, the name VeraCruz was just confirmed by NHTSA (of all sources!) for the larger 2007 model-year XUV.

    Mike
  • chantellewchantellew Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for the name update...do you know when they plan to release it?
    Hope they are doing a better job for advertising than the Santa Fe...cause they don't seem eager to sell the 07 SF yet...it's obvious they haven't had much training...and most are shocked that people know about the 07 SF.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    The third row of the Santa Fe has more leg room than the Pilot, Pacifica, and MDX. The only thing I'm worried about is headroom in the third row, but the Veracruz is defenitely tempting to wait for since it will be bigger in all directions, more powerful, and is supposed to be a bit more luxurious (although Hyundai recommends premium for the 3.8L motor).
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,248
    Cool! Anyone want to start a discussion for the VeraCruz?

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  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    One has begun already: it's under "2008 Hyundai Mesa." I left you a message over there too.
    ;)

    Mike
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    Yeah, just need to modify the thread title.

    Surprised too seeing info from NHTSA :)
  • joe97joe97 Member Posts: 2,248
    The Santa Fe has just started selling for the US market. Advertising spots to follow soon.

    VeraCruz will start production in December, to the best of my knowledge. So I'd venture to say sometimes in spring 07 we would see it in dealers.
  • boyzmumboyzmum Member Posts: 5
  • boyzmumboyzmum Member Posts: 5
    Oops! Sorry - hit return key too early and posted with only a title! Spoke with salesman in Barrie ON Can today and he informs me that there are NO anchors for car seat tethers in the third row! There are 3 in the second row. This seems like a big oversight to me! It would only make sense to me that you might choose to put the smaller bodies in the third row due to space limitations - yet the lack of anchors prohibits anyone under 40-50 lbs as these guys are still supposed to be in car seats - which legally require tethers! This is a huge disappointment and may mean a different vehicle for us. :(
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    I doubt you will find many SUV's that have anchors in the 3rd row. I know that the for Freestyle has one LATCH in the 3rd row, but I really couldn't find any others that did. The Freestyle only has two in the second row though, so both of them total 3 tethers. Almost all minivans have them in the 3rd row though.
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    A couple of interesting articles on rear seat safety fyi

    How Safe are Rear Seat Passengers?

    Rear Seat Safety
  • davesuvdavesuv Member Posts: 149
    After pouring over a multitude of pictures on the new 2007 Santa Fe ( Santa Fe press photos ), I finally got to see one live and up close today at our local Hyundai dealer lot here in Toledo. The pictures don't do it justice. This is one nice looking car. The lines just flow perfectly on it. While styling is a personal preference, I find myself usually middle of the road in my tastes and I feel Hyundai has hit a home run on this style. This has just moved up to the top of my short list. Now I have to wait for a Limited AWD with 3rd row seat and sunroof to become available in a color I like. Humm... golden beige, slate blue, or platinum sage? Decisions, decisions :)
  • lv2drvlv2drv Member Posts: 132
    I am new to the forums. What do the letters IMHO or IMO mean? Thanks for your reply.
  • chantellewchantellew Member Posts: 12
    In my honest opinion...in my opinion...
  • mike_belknapmike_belknap Member Posts: 378
    Or "in my humble opinion."

    Mike
  • jcspohrjcspohr Member Posts: 97
    Ditto Mike's "in my humble opinion" - that's what I have always believed the acronym stood for.

    On another topic - I thought I had seen a couple posts by a Hyundai dealer in this forum offering to sell any 07 Santa Fe for $400 over invoice. However, I can't seem to find the posts.

    Anyone know who this dealer was and where the posts are?

    Am I just experiencing part-timers - I remember correctly part of the time! :)

    JCS
  • chantellewchantellew Member Posts: 12
    You've got that right...Hyundai is now my choice car. I always wanted a Lexus RX330 or Acura MDX, but now considering the exterior styling and warranty it's a deal you just can't beat. Not to mention the features inside. IMHO...you must get this car in leather cause the cloth does it no justice. Happy Deciding!!!
  • lv2drvlv2drv Member Posts: 132
    I'm extremely interested in the new Santa Fe as well. I will probably wait another year to see of there are incentives; or to get end of year sales. As I live in rural Iowa, I will probably have to go to St. Louis for a wider selection of trims and colors. However, I will also test drive other SUV's such as the Pilot, Highlander, etc. But, the SF seems a good deal for the money. I will keep watching this forum in the months to cometo see if everyone still likes their SF :) .
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    True, its a beauty.
    I have the opposite problem, 3 or 4 dealers within minutes of my house(Mississauga). So, so, tempting to be the first on the block. Several friends and I went over again, today, to critique styling, colours. Mazda could have designed this, SUV. Theirs will cost way more, eh Mike ?
    If you wait till next year, the big decision will be VeraCruz or Santa Fe, I predict !
  • jclevinjclevin Member Posts: 7
    ConsumerGuide Automotive has posted their reveiw of the 2007 SF:

    http://auto.consumerguide.com/Auto/New/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/39033/Act/Showa- ll/
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    There is some word that the CX-9 will start at as much as $28,000, but I think it will probably start around $26,000 or a little more than the Ford Freestyle.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    If you look at the scores for all compact sport-utility vehicles, the 2WD Limited Santa Fe has the highest score in it's class.
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    nice review, thanks, except,
    "Large bumps induce uncomfortable bounce and sideways rocking, plus some minor vibration through floor, steering column."
    I pull a fishing boat, and load my mini-van with dogs/firewood/coolers/bikes/lumber, anything really. My Dodge van rides solid. So, that comment concerns me.
    .... I may remain uncool, with a big grin.
  • arumagearumage Member Posts: 922
    Yeah, I wish Hyundai would stiffen up their suspension a bit to get a bit less roll. Part of that probably comes from the added ride height though, not that it's excuseable. I have a 2000 Dodge Intrepid, and I love how the suspension is stiff for performance but isn't too rough. It would be nice, IMO, if they could duplicate that.
  • jarekjarek Member Posts: 24
    One of my cars is Chrysler Voyager. You can be sure of one thing – comparing to the van Santa Fe’s ride is rock solid.
  • berniedgberniedg Member Posts: 54
    You're probably right, if a vehicle is rated for 3500 lbs towing, we should "believe" the chasis can take it.
    That consumer report comment really surprised me, because Hyundai own numbers talk about chasis stiffness improvements.
    For an SUV, bouncy/soft ride is in-excusable. That is, For the 5% of us, who actually need the vehicle to do some real work.
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