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2009-2010 Hyundai Sonata

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  • xj220xj220 Posts: 78
    Jaxs, one big problem with your analysis. You're comparing Invoice Price when clearly there's another price that KBB calls "what consumers are really paying for this vehicle". For that, Accord=$22,339. The 2009 Sonata obviously has no price indicator for that but MSRP is $19,995. Even if we to say that the Sonata was purchased at MSRP the difference is $2,344 (not "merely $976" as you say). Oh, and since there was no 2009 data, I checked the depriciation for the 2008 Sonata GLS and here's what I found...

    Sonata 5-yr depriciation = $11,280
    Accord 5-yr depriciation = $10,186

    A $1,094 depriciation hit is fine by me considering the money I save up front. And also, Hyundai's 10-yr warranty is another value added to the product that Honda can't match.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    Not all dealers have them yet. Maybe within the next 1 to 4 weeks. Dealers are still getting 08's. Hope this helps.
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    They are in no rush if they still have tons of 2008s with more on the way.
  • This is the last week of Feb but i still cannot see any '09 Sonata at the dealership, anybody see that?
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Some dealers have them already. It really depends on the allocation, and how many 08 units are left on the lot.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    There shouldn't be many 08s remaining on order, as I recall the Alab. plant shifted to 09s soon after the new year. The bulk is on the dealer lots I would assume.
  • My wife and I checked out all the midsize sedans in this class and decided that the 09 Sonota Limited V-6 is clearly the best choice for us. We compared features, power, handling, noise level, roominess, mileage, price, etc. and the Sonota was a clear winner. We are planning on keeping it for a full 100,000 miles, possibly handing it down to my daughter, and it will have a bumper-to-bumper warranty for its life with us (since we are getting an extended warranty but not from the dealer). Resale value doesn't concern us.
    Had some real problems with some of the other cars.
    Accord has -34!- almost identical buttons on the dash - you think cellphone users are distracted......Also was about $3K higher delivered here.
    Camry was cheaper looking inside, didn't ride as smoothly, and was noisier. However the dealer will throw in a carwash a week for life.
    Malibu - don't make me laugh, but we checked it out to see what American cars are like. By the way, there is a hold on 6 cylinder engines with no release date.
    Avenger and Sebring - checked out - less performance, less mileage, noisier, cheaper interior, etc.
    Also checked out the Nissan Altima, Ford Fusion, etc.
    Some of them were excellent in some respects but none of them came up with a total package that matched the Sonata.
    My wife surprised me by going for a black car with black leather interior. The only thing I would change on this is the interior. Black is available with only a black or camel interior. I would prefer a gray interior. By the way, the camel interior is dynamite on the deep maroon car.
    We pick up the car tomorrow.
  • macakavamacakava Posts: 775
    Great choice for features, cost, and warranty! You would enjoy it as I am enjoying my 2007 Sonata Limited V6. Paid $19,600 for it with mats, guards, net. Saved about $8-$10K over a comparably equipped CamCord.

    I keep my cars at least 10 years with rigid PM and any repairs I do myself. Trade-in was a 13 yr Continental which still ran fine with no major problems.
  • Congrats on the purchase. I've got 40,000 miles on my 06 Sonata without any problems. The only thing the Camcords have on the Sonata is image which affects resale. Everything else swings in the Sonata's favor considering it is about $3 to $5K cheaper with a better warranty.
  • jfftx67jfftx67 Posts: 5
    My first post here.......

    I saw three 2009 Sonata GLS models at the local Hyundai dealer today in Waco, Texas. They were listed for just over $20k. All three were unlocked so, I sat in each one. I suppose the new interior is nicer than the 06-08 models. What I didn't like in the 2009 was the cup holders didn't have a cover that flips over like the 08 models. The grille is nicer, as well as the larger headlights. I like the tail lamps on the 2008 more. The 2009 tail lamps appear to be the same size as the 08's.........just that the 08's show more white for the reverse lights than the 2009.

    Oh.......I didn't see a place to unlock the trunk from the outside on the 2009.
  • wcw1wcw1 Posts: 44
    Does the 09 have folding side mirrors yet? Just forced over by another car in our subdivision and smacked my right mirror slightly on a mail box. No paint damage but the plastic mirror housing cracked which I don't think would have happened with folding mirrors. Non U.S. models have folding mirrors, so I ordered a pair of factory OEM painted (cherry) folding mirrors for about $50 dollars more than one U.S. OEM mirror. Three bolts on each mirror and one power cord.

    I am looking at replacing an 04 XG350 with either an Azera or Sonata and sure would like folding mirrors if I go with another Sonata.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,922
    Thanks for the info on the folding mirrors--that's good to know it's pretty cheap and easy to swap out the fixed mirrors for folding ones. That's one gripe I have with many new cars these days--fixed mirrors. One of the main reasons the Hyundais made in the ROK have them is so it's easier to ship them. Not an issue with the Sonatas made in Alabama. Note that cars that are shipped over here, e.g. the Accent and Elantra, do have folding mirrors.
  • I hadn't thought about shipping being the reason. That makes perfect sense. I still wish they were folding, tho. Way to use the ol' bean. ;)
  • This may be a stupid question but, since I've never attempted to order a part that is not standard on the American vehicles, I'm curious. Was it difficult to get the dealer to order a Korean part for your American-built Sonata?

    Thanks.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    There are stores online that sell Korean parts. They have some cool Korean market stuff.
  • targettuningtargettuning Posts: 1,371
    Dealers can't/won't do it because of several reasons:
    1. they have no access to Korean part numbers.
    2. they cannot guarantee the part would fit properly
    3. most US parts meet various standards that cannot be guaranteed with Korean parts
    4.shipping costs, customs and customer return problems
    5. dealers don't want to be caught up in any of the above.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,870
    Common distribution point for sea shipped and trucked or rail shipments of Hyundai's.
  • merf1merf1 Posts: 8
    I compared a 2008 and a 2009 Sonata GLS, both with power drivers seat.
    The 09 seamed much more comfortable to me.
    The seats look the same but I got a tape measure and found that the seat in the 09 was 1 1/2 inches longer from the upright back to the edge of the front.
    This is a much needed improvment in my opinion.
    For a 6 foot man, like myself, the 08 seats just did not have enough thigh support.
    I will be buying an 09 when the rebates kick in.

    P.S.-- The salesman did not know about the improvement to the seats.
    They may be keeping it quiet until all the 08s are sold.
  • wcw1wcw1 Posts: 44
    Take a look at koreanautoimports.com. There was a picture go by on how to change the mirrors posted somewhere but I can't seem to find it again.
  • I looked at a 2009 V-6 Limited in New Jersey today. It appears Hyundai did a great job in getting the Sonata very close to if not surpassing the Honda Accord.

    Does anybody know if the mirrors that are used on the Azera with the turn signal indicators will work on the Sonata? Are the Sonatas prewired so this will work ?. I know the OEM mirrors on the Sonata do not fold. Just one more safety item.

    Also, the Bluetooth option. Will a aftermarket Bluetooth device work with the Infinity sound system ?. If not, can you buy and install this item yourself and save a few bucks ?.

    Are the 2009 Sonatas being sold at invoice or $ 500.00 above. Any information will be extremely helpful.

    Thanks!!!
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    I went to a Hyundai dealer to look at the Elantra and noticed they were overflowing with dozens of 2008 Sonatas and had no 2009s.

    No reason to have 2009s on their lots that would only make the 2008s harder to get rid of.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,922
    Some dealers advertise their pricing on the Internet, and from that we can see that below-invoice pricing is available on the 2009s at least at some dealers. For example, Fitzmall is offering 2009 Sonatas at several hundred bucks below invoice now. But the really big deals right now are on the 2008s. Fitzmall has many of both years in stock, according to their web site.

    A spot check of some dealers around me yesterday showed they all have at least a few 2009s in stock.
  • serlichserlich Posts: 2
    My wife and I just brought home our new 2009 Sonata Limited with I-4 and Khaki color. We love the car. I hope this satisfied feeling lasts for years. The buying experience was excellent. The car lists for a little over $24K and the dealer added $4k of options that should cost about $200. This brought the total list to $28k. But I bought the car for a little over $22k and a very good trade brought the price down to exactly was I expected after searching new car invoice price and trade-in values on the net. The dealer lot was loaded with 2008 models with very aggressive pricing. Apparently mine was the first 2009 Sonata they sold, but I'm still very happy with the price.

    Steve
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,181
    and the dealer added $4k of options that should cost about $200.

    What kind of options were added on? Were these dealer installed options? Not quite sure what you mean by the above...is there a typo or something? Seems like too good to be true deal on a 2009, am I missing something?
  • jmaxejmaxe Posts: 198
    You said it...not surpassing the Honda Accord. Hyundai still has a long way to go in value retention.
  • xj220xj220 Posts: 78
    I think he means the typical add ons that dealers use to jack the price way up. For the typical car this can be mudguards, visor, chrome moldings, pinstripes, spoiler, etc...
  • I thought the only options available on the Limited was I4/V6 and color. Maybe navigation? Where could they come up with $4000 in options? :confuse:
  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    It was not "worth" $4000. They can ask $3000 for chrome rims and $600 for stick-on pin stripe decals if they want.
    There are a lot of dealer installed accessories, paint and fabric sealants etc. that the dealers can price at any dollar amount they wish.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 3,181
    I think the vast majority of us using this forum know what the usual "dealer add-ons" are. I just never have seen them to be anywhere near this amount($4000). When I go to a dealership and see the add-on window stickers for the $600 pinstripes, $400 paint sealant and $250 wheel locks etc., I wait for the salesman to approach and then tell them that I am just looking because I refuse to buy from a dealership that uses this practise. Luckily, in the Chicago area, there are plenty of dealers to choose from.
  • serlichserlich Posts: 2
    The $4k of dealer options (though they are not optional) consisted of pin stripes, wind deflector for sun roof and paint protection plan. The $4k was not a misprint. While these items appear on the dealer sticker (not the mfg sticker), they kind of wink at you while trying to justify the additions. As I said, dealing with this particular delear was very pleasant. I suppose you can't blame a dealer for trying to boost profits, but if you go in knowing what a good deal should be, they are very easy to work with.
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