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Cadillac DeVille



  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    I would highly recommend a 1977-79 Deville. Sensible size, fairly decent gas mileage, excellent 425 V-8. A lot are still on the road. Of more recent Cadillacs, the 1994-99 Cadillacs are good. My 1994 Deville with 4.9 V-8 and 85K miles is still going strong. A nice 1998 or 1999 model base Deville would probably be your best choice. They can be had for very reasonable prices.
  • hardestyhardesty Posts: 166
    I own a 2001 Aurora 4.0 (small bore 4.6) and switched out the factory oil at 4000 miles with Mobil-1 0W-30 (8 quarts). the car now has 6000 miles and has not used any oil since the change. While the owner's manual does not mention 0W-30, the service manual does recommend it (synthetic only) for cold areas and/or better start-up lubrication. Even with mostly mountain/city driving, the oil life monitor is running at about 7000 miles per change and it looks like it won't need any added oil during that time. I also use Mobil-1 filters. According to the service manual, synthetic 0W-30 or 5W-30 can be used in any climate, and synthetics are specifically recommended for colder areas.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,405
    ....NOT! My 2000 DTS has less than 10,000 mi. and has been pampered. Despite this it has been in service for no less than six times since I bought it a year ago. Each time it has been in for 3 - 8 days at a time. Now it is in for defective camshaft, problem with the condenser, and a leak in the radiator, and they "keep finding things wrong". It has been in since Friday, the 15th, and there's no telling when I'll get it back. As for Cadillac, and one of it "flagships"...never again. It's foreign cars for me, and I personally hope that Cadillac goes the route of Oldsmobile. Don't buy one or you've got trouble!
  • sonjaabsonjaab Posts: 1,057
    Hello all
    96 deville northstar 76500 mil.
    Used 1 Qt. dino 10w40 1500 miles.
    Purring like a kitten. But the woman is
    too cheap to put premium in. But i got a new
    chevy truck recently. And the wheel fell OFF !!
    So Carnaught : sorry to hear of your problems.
  • bremertongbremertong Posts: 436
    I currently own a 1997 Chrysler LHS with 53,000
    miles on it and in very good condition. I am looking for a car with a little more power and a little less road noise. I have not found the new LHS as comfortable in its' seating or visibility as the 97 LHS.
    I now have the opportunity to trade the 97 LHS for a 1998 Cadillac Deville with 11,000 miles on it and in like new condition.
    The trade would be the 97 LHS and $ 12,000 cash for the 1998 Deville. Is this a good trade? Has anyone in the discussion owned both models? can you give me your comparison based on your own experience. All other replies also welcome
  • reveillereveille Posts: 1
    my 2001 deville has been in the shop more than we have had it.
    the passanger side sun visior is defected
    transitors had to be replace at 200 miles
    transitors had to be replaced at 500 miles
    the dealer said the transmission was slopping but
    they had fixed it
    at 700 miles they are replacing the transmission if they ever get one in.
    anyone else having tranmission problems
    windshield had to be replaced 200 miles,,,,,,took 3 weeks to get the windshield
    i am going to tell the factory rep. that i want a new car not a repaired new car......if he ever calls me. i come but i have owned 9 caddys and have never had these problems
  • ashur1ashur1 Posts: 8
    Now I'm worrried about the transmission on my 2000 DHS...

    Problems? I have had them all. I just had the cam replacement. The vibration at idle is better but not great. You can still feal a little roughness at idle - I'm still not satisfied given the price I paid.

    To recap: I have had both sides of the car repainted to correct bad factory paint job, painted again to correct a bad dealor paint job (call my picky but I simply did not like the fingerprint in the paint just above the door handle), defective passenger visor replaced, wood dash panel replaced, AC vents fixed so that they stay open, driver seat cover replaced, heated seat repaired, cruise control repaired, door trim reattached (three times - I know they are just pushing the piece in), the car was out of alignment when delivered, the brakes have been cleaned and adjusted a couple of times and had rotors resufaced or replaced to fix nasty pulsation upon breaking - they still groan.

    I love the styling, handling, toys and power. But, too many problems. I'm 38 and thought I was the market that Cadillac was after with the new Devilles. Cadillac has made it very clear to me that they are not interested in me as a long term customer. My dealorship is not especially upset over my problems, the Cadillac 800 numbers are absolutely useless, the folks at the 'executive offices' don't seem to really care, and the field manager is 'real sorry' but really has not made me happy - when he calls me back. I can't wait to see the next generation Town Car.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,405
    Please read my previous post approx. #515. Just got my 2000 DTS Deville back from the dealer service after a week there. It is about my eighth time in within the last year I've owned it. Had the cam shafts replaced, overheating, and radiator leak, condenser problem and air cond. vent fixed/replaced. It was all washed and shiny and filled with gas when I picked it up, although the interior being cleaned also was not as clean as I left it. On the way home the engine temp. was higher than, I suspect It'll go back for no. nine. When the car runs and is shined, it is pretty and a pleasure but those moments are getting more rare and less appreciated. Even though my service rep., who is himself stellar, said "don't give up on us", the car is just about history. It is the MOST troublesome I've EVER owned. I think I'll buy a second Lexus. It's more expensive but no comparison. Cadillac is destined to go the route of the Oldsmobile.....extinction. I feel there's no hope...and frankly I don't care. So can GM!

    Ashur1: Cadillac's attitude is reprehensible and they deserve what they get!
  • dwaynejdwaynej Posts: 1
    I purchased this car the first week in May 2001 and I feel like the suspension needs a minor adjustment, such as new struts. The car has 51K on it and rides like a dream except when the trunk is loaded down; I think that it sits too low to the ground in the rear. The original struts are on the car now, is it true that struts are only good for about 30k miles or so?
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    ...on my 1994 Deville with over 85K. Pretty impressive when I consider my city's cratered streets. I've felt that something was amiss with the suspension as well, but have been told that the struts are OK. There are two thin vertical stabilizer bars in the front that tend to go bad. I believe a set of these costs $180.00. Struts, on the other hand, are costly at $500 a piece!
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    I get such a kick out of these posts from people who have problems with their Cadillacs and say "it's foriegn cars for me." Thats the dumbest statement I've heard. Foriegn cars have problems too. Ever see a Lexus dealership that doesn't have a service department? And most foriegn luxury cars are alot more expensive than Cadillacs to get V8 power, and equivalent room and features. And Cadillac is NOT going the way of Oldsmobile. Have you seen or read anything about the upcoming CTS? Very impressive. If Lexus can sell a warmed over Camry(ES300), Infinti a fancy Maxima(I30), and Acura and upgraded Accord(TL 3.2) then Cadillac should have no problem selling a completely new from the ground up RWD entry level luxury sedan. Sorry if I sound a bit crass, but I get tired of blanket statements like "Back to foriegn cars for me" when someone has a problem with a US made car. I happen to like Cadillacs alot and it will be a cold day in you know where before I'll ever buy a Lexus or an Acura. The only foriegn luxury cars I would consider would be a Jaguar or a high end MB.
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,405
    for me" people, you refer to. Understand, as an American, I WANT the American car to succeed. What I have seen is a lack of reliability in the Cadillac's engineering and a disregard for the customer by GM in their support. I thought they (Amer. cars) were improving, and in my experience, they are not. Another poster on the board noted that the GM corporate support had total disregard and lack of care for the customer after the purchase and I have found it to be the case with my Pontiac also. Do you expect me to continue to be loyal when I've had better luck with my foreign cars? By the way, foreign cars too are not perfect; if you want trouble, buy a Jaguar (although better than they used to be). BTW....not trying to rile you, just have a spirited debate :<( .
  • josephnjosephn Posts: 1
    For those of you complaining about unreliable new Cadillacs, do you live in states with lemon laws? Any new car that is at the dealer for a week 6 different times the first year is hitting lemon status.

    As for the guy who implied shame on anyone who'd buy a foreign Lexus, but kudos if the foreign car is a Jaguar, well, he has never owned a Jaguar. My aunt has an XK8, and the thing is most unreliable tub in history.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294 regard to service after the sale some 7 years after I purchased my 1994 Deville. My girlfriend has a new Chevrolet Impala and they are doing their darndest to ensure she is happy with her car. Maybe it varies by dealer. As far as I can see, I have no reason whatsoever to consider a foreign make. I do like the Lexus LS400 and LS430 and the Mercedes S-Class, but Cadillac was, is, and will be my select choice.
  • larry0605larry0605 Posts: 3
    I have an early 2000 DTS that used to get about 19.0 MPG for my daily driving (5 miles interstate- 2 miles suburban streets) Recently my MPG dropped to about 16.1 overall and I am only getting about 20.1 MPG at a constant 65 MPH on the freeway. I watch the INST mileage on the freeway and, on any grade at all, it drops the mileage down in the 12-15 MPG range. I complained to dealer service guy and he told me I should be using 89 octane instead of 87 and that the northstar 'carbons up' because of Lotus type variable valve timingused on the Northstar. He 'decarbonized' it but there has been no improvement . I also am getting some rough idling, although it is tough to tell how rough it is while inside the car due to the sound insulation. How out of the norm is my mileage and does anyone have a clue as to what is wrong with this car?
  • robh3robh3 Posts: 157
    I read the other day where Raytheon is planning to step up their automotive night vision technology business and they are courting other car manufacturers. Interested parties include Honda and I believe Mercedes or BMW. Interestingly, Lexus (Toyota) was not listed.

    Apparently, the exclusive arrangement with Cadillac is over, and the demand for this technology has exceeded their (Raytheon's) initial expectations. They foresee ramping up production to as much as 1 million units per year.

    It seems that night vision may well become a common feature on cars in the near future. Chalk one up for Cadillac for having been on the forefront of this particular technology in the automotive world!
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    dwaynej:::::cadillac struts are a little on the pricey side. Your struts should not be wore out at 50k unless it has been abused.

    Maybe your load leveling system is not functioning and the rear end is not being raised??? I have owned several Caddies and the the 91 Touring Sedan did suffer a strut problem due to the a sensor malfunction; however the car was sold @ 59k miles after the factory installed a new 4.9 engine..

    The current Deville is a 96 Northstar, wife's car, which has made 6 round trips to Fla from Detroit loaded to the gunnels with luggage/cargo.. The car has 56k miles and the struts are okay and the electronic load leveling functions to keep the body in a level condition when loaded..

    Take your car to a dealer and ask him to check it out..Struts should last under normal useage past the 100k mark.
  • Hello 1415. Another anonymous name change.


    J "CaddyLac"
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Life is funny; and when are you going to pop for the Eldo???? Don't lurk and pay the part..

    I always considered myself lucky because I didn't have to depend on a Cadillac for transportation needs.. Always bought my wife one for she has the time in case the car didn't feel the need to run that day..

    Eldos are old tech and GM is finally going to kill it.. They haven't put any money in that car for a few years..I know of a mint 99 Eldo, custom top, moon, Vogue wheels and tires, 36k mi. and asking 21.9.. I know the original owner.. He has a 01 Eldo now..

    My 96 Deville is an exceptional car and I am keeping it because the thing is not replaceable. It will go end of model 02, though..

    The 99 3.5 Intrigue is a blast and at 45k miles it loves the 75+ mph cruise.. The engine is smoother than the Northstar and if it blows up; then Major Guard writes the check..It's the business car, golf wagon, and funmobile..

    I quess you might call my son a real Caddie fan; he just bought a used Allante 93 Northstar with 42k miles; 2nd owner,and I am trying to trace through the system to see if the engine has been replaced by Cadillac. Excellent condition, low 20s, summer wagon only, recently bought a 01 SLS to replace his 94 STS w/137k miles..The third car is a T&C Chrysler van.

    Who is 1415????
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    1415 is someone who was not nearly as well behaved as you will be, right 9899olds?
  • carnaughtcarnaught 'zonaPosts: 2,405
    check the cam shafts....had the problem with the rough idle with my 2000 DTS
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Behaving better every day...may chuck the Intrigue for a 02 Z-28..decision near..lack of dealer support..300hp+ V-8s are a dying sport..hybrid cars don't create any fun..this AARPer is going out in style.

    The younger generation has to put up with the whachos; I don't!!!!It's off to the races..
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    Whats up? :) Sounds like you know your Caddies and Intrigues. I'm getting ready to buy a new(or used) car very soon and my choices are a 97 or 98 ETC, STS(probably have to stick with a 97 on that one), Deville Concours, Oldsmobile Aurora or a new Oldsmobile Intrigue. I've looked at Buick Regals, but weren't as impressed with them. I keep going back to the Cadillacs because I've always wanted a luxury car and I'd love to have a car with a V8 before gasoline prices go through the roof. Lincolns don't really impress me and Chrysler has no V8 cars. And the only imports I really like are Jags and long term maintenance on those worry me.
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    Look in the yellow pages and see how many Jaguar, Cadillac, and Oldsmobile dealers are in your service area where you will seek help occasionally. Oldsmobile is disappearing and the last time I looked; Jaguar dealers were somewhat scarce..

    The ETC is old in many respects, and the STS is probably the best thing the USA has to offer. Excellent suspension setup and the Northstar/trans combo is a real runner.. Used, low mileage is the way to go for the new one is on the pricey side; and depreciates like a lead sinker in water.. The SLS is nothing and the Deville is okay; but soft suspension..I buy the Devilles because of the southern commute-Detroit to Fla-gobs of junk to haul back/forth..

    The Intrigue is a high speed runner all day long and probably is the best handling mid-sized Big 3 domestic sedan produced by Detroit in a long time.. I have had two; but the 99 is the last one due to the Olds demise..The 3.5 is a blast..

    Conclusion: Cadillac service isn't the greatest; but volume of dealers allows a choice to be made..
    No choice with Olds; they are gone, and Jag ain't for me, no choice..

    Maybe this will help narrow the field for you.
  • mosaixmosaix Posts: 106
    Thanks for the info. BTW, how is that SLP exhaust doing on the Intrigue? :)
  • harchieharchie Posts: 1
    I have just purchased a 98 Deville. Geat Price and condition. Immaculate. Any info or advice on what to expect. This is my first high end vehicle.
  • lemkolemko Philadelphia, PAPosts: 15,294
    A bona fide collectible - awesome powerplant, two-seater convertible with Pininfarina body. A real keeper. I'd definitely would preserve such a vehicle as well as I possibly could.
  • 9899olds9899olds Posts: 202
    We have met???? Recall Tenn????

    The SLP system has upped the abuse factor, increased oil consumption, decreased gas mileage, added more noise to a noisy car; but it was worth the money.. It did add some zest to the higher end..

    Every Intrigue owner should get one.. I doubt if it will be a good selling point!!

    lemko:::::It might be a collectable someday but it sure wasn't a sports car by any stretch of the imagination.. I was somewhat amazed that my son was buying this car because he has never shown any real auto interest other than certain cars were necessary in the family lifestyle. His mechanical aptitude is not too swift; in fact he nevers checks the oil level in his cars..
  • harvey17harvey17 Posts: 4
    how reliable is this engine, and has anyone outthere had any major problems,or when startup do anyone have a whine in the tranny for the first ten miles orso.
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