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Do you know what ran the battery down?
Thanks,
Jill
Regards.
Paul
"We want to get an extended service contract (extending to 7yr/100,000, $0 deductible)...Since the price of the warranty the dealer who sold us the Sienna gave us was a joke ($1400 for 7/100K $0 ded), can we buy the ext warr from another dealer?"
Yes. See my posts #2909, 2949, 2967, and 3001.
The best deals posted recently here for this particular warranty have been in the $850-950 range. Work hard to buy at or near the low end of that range - or even slightly less.
I bought this warranty for $950 in a package deal with pre-paid maintenance, also at a discount. If you try that approach (i.e., purchase the warranty in a package deal), assume the dealer's cost for the manufacturer's pre-paid maintenance is 50% of the suggested retail price. Toyota lists the retail costs of its warranties and pre-paid maintenance plans on the Financial Services page at www.toyota.com.
XLE AWD GK(#17) and CF (mats and sill protector) in Salsa Red Perl is in front of my house!!!
This is where I got it:
Vic Toyota
1607 N Belt
St Joseph, MO 64506
MSRP: $35071
Dealer fees: $90
OTD: $35161
Discount: $2319
NET: $32842 The price was VERY good in this region for an AWD but not the best. BUT it was on the ground and in the exact color I wanted.
Just for comparison the dealers in St. Louis wanted that for XLE FR(#12)+CF without AWD.
Warranty: $970 for 84/100, $0 deductable.
How far: I had to drive 291 miles one way.
You can e-mail me (in my profile) for the contacts. Make sure you put Sienna Info as your subject header. I HIGHLY recommend this dealer even if you have to travel. It may not be the best price (I had an offer for $2500 off) but they were totally up front and the finance guy was great. They worked really hard to get me EXACTLY what I asked for and delivered EXACTLY what they promised.
Mid-Atlantic Region was only allocated 4% in that style. I'm not sure what Midwest region got for December. Almost all the dealers in my region refused to budge much from MSRP except for two. Of the two, one didn't have the color I wanted but offered $2000 off, but didn't even have any cars in stock or in transit....so effectively, vaporware as far as I'm concerned. The other one had one in transit. I got it for $1300 off MSRP and they covered freight. So you actually got a better deal!
Dizzy
"What are people's experiences/recommendations with pre-paid maintenance plans? Price to pay? Bad or good idea? The Toyota site doesn't give prices for the Premium plan...."
Yes it does, under pre-paid maintenance on the Financial Services page at www.toyota.com.
I purchased the Premium 4yr/55K plan for $770; Toyota's suggested retail price is $995 and I estimate that I will save more than $100 over the life of the plan, based on what my dealer currently charges for service at each maintenance interval.
Estimate dealer cost for any of the pre-paid maintenance plans at 50% of Toyota's suggested retail price, and negotiate from there.
My dealer also offers a pre-paid, six oil and filter change plan for $100 ($16.67 per change). I intend to use that plan for oil changes between (but not including) the normal service intervals.
My drive out price has been quoted as $32526.00. I don't pick it up until 1/12/04 and will post a message if there are any last minute changes. The invoice price for the permavin is $52.00. Please let me know if you need any other information.
Paul Mercier
I think the only things we are going to have added are cargo net, mud flaps, and perhaps an auto-dim mirror.
Does anyone know if Toyota (or aftermarket) makes a plastic bin for the fold down area that does not affect the folding of the seats. Honda makes one for their minivan. Its really nice because if something spills (like milk) its contained by the plastic.
Due to the way the rear seats fold on the Sienna, it is not possible to have a plastic liner that will protect the floor from liquids and allow for the folding.
If you look carefully there are two loops in the floor that the seats lock into when folded. It is this way for a safety reason so the seats do not flip up in an accident. Due to the those tabs and the hinge system a permanent always there tray is not possible.
There are several trays that can be had, Weathertech and another who's name escapes me at the moment. These need to be lifted out when folding the seats.
Another approach, the one I have taken as have several others is to use Rubbermaid Roughneck Totes. Both the 10 gallon and the 18 gallon ones will fit three across. By taking out one and nesting it into the one of the others you can fold the 1/3 section down or take the two out and nest them in the one left and you can fold the 2/3 section. We chose 10 gallon ones as you end up with a surface level with the hatch opening when you put the lids on. We have extra 18 gallon containers around we can use if we want to. Total investment: about 10 bucks.
Wish us luck!
Jill
Sienna LE with package #8(BW) and wireless headphones.
Invoice price quoted below are not inflated prices which contain the MAF, TDA, ETC fees that are automatically charged to dealer:
Base invoice for Sienna LE: $21,833
Invoice for Package #7(BW): $2,364
Invoice for Wireless Headphones: $64
Destination Charge: $540
Total Invoice: $24,801
Total MSRP: $27,777
My deal was Total invoice(including destination charge) minus dealer holdback of $485 plus $100 dealer profit.
So my sale price was $24,416 which is $385 below invoice (or $1,353 below an invoice which includes the MAF, TDA, ETC fees) and $3361 blow MSRP.
My out the door price was the $24,416 plus a $100 processing fee, and $186 for the registration etc. and the lien fee (all of these are standard in Maryland. No other fees whatsoever were charged.
Final price with tax: $25,929
I think I may have gotten one of the best deals on a Sienna in the country.
If anyone wants to here my tale, I'll share it...but it basically boils down to research, determination, timing, luck, and contacting the managers of as many dealers as I could.
Paul
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
They charged me invoice, removed the $485 holdback and then added $100. So I got it for $385 under invoice. I then paid a $100 processing fee. Of course I didn't any fees like TDA and MFA which the dealer supposedly has to pay the Manufacturer. So I don't know, you tell me. I think they actually lost money or at best made $200. Follow my logic?
No there was no trade in whatsoever. The vehicle was brand new...silver and stone interior, 2 miles on the odometer, michelin tires. EXACTLY what I was looking for, but they would have done that deal for any Sienna I wanted even if they had to transfer it!
I think vin etching is pretty much worthless, and is mostly a profit center for the dealer like permaplate waxing or rust proofing.
I don't know of any insurance companies that recommend it or offer any discount for it (mine doesn't at least). If your van is stolen and chopped, the windows will get tossed in the dumpster. If the van isn't chopped, you might not want it back anyway!
The police departments sometimes offer it for free around here, and I still wouldn't bother :-)
Steve, Host
I'm in Santa Rosa, CA (North Bay area), and the car was bought from a dealer in Davis (Hanlees), about 70 miles away. They sent a driver to take me there and do all the paperwork, and I drove the car back. No problem!
Our cost before taxes was $31535, compared to $33841 MSRP. (also included carpet floor mats).
Only complaint so far is the FM reception: the antenna on this car is built into the rear window, and as the manual points out it's far worse than a "mast" style antenna. My '99 GM piece-of-crap has much better FM reception, and this Sienna has the upgrade radio! Damn. I'll have to look at getting one installed.
I would appreciate if you could tell me the dealership name.
Any one knows any dealer giving good deals on Sienna in philadelphia region??
Thanks
I cant believe that I did not think of that. Thanks again.
Business has been slow since the beginning of the year and the dealer's Sienna inventory now stands at about 20 vehicles - more than 2x what it was in late Nov. Store now discounting heavily (to buyers that ask, of course). He thought bus wouldn't pick up until people began getting tax refunds. I suspect he's right, particularly since bus appeared to be very good in Dec and short-term demand may have been satiated. Couple that with families faced with paying holiday bills in Jan.
Bottom line: I consider this good anecdotal evidence that many NorCal dealers are probably flush with inventory. If I were buying today, I'd be working hard to purchase very close to invoice, say dealer's inv + $200-$300 for a CE or LE, or dealer's invoice + $300-$400 for a more expensive XLE or XLE Lim. That without running all over town from one dealership to the next. (Visits to two or, at the most, three stores should be sufficient.) Dealer's invoice + $400-500 on any vehicle should be very easy.
I don't think it likely that any NorCal dealer would be willing to sell at or below Edmunds' invoice price, unless Toyota initiates some kind of incentive program. (Let me know if I'm wrong!)
In Northern California,
dealer's inv = Edmunds' inv + TDA + a very small gasoline charge,
typically, where TDA is the regional advertising fee, which amounts to hundreds of dollars.
Thanks to everyone for the guidance received from this forum as it made my buying experience a very good one. My local dealer was selling at MSRP only so I decided to fax the 25 dealers geographically closest to my home, excluding the ones that I heard complaints about on this forum. I asked for an out-the-door price and proposed a figure of 2% over invoice as being fair and reasonable. I got about 8 offers, the closest to the one I wound up buying from was $1800 off MSRP. The decision was a no brainer.
See my profile to e-mail me if you want to know my salesman’s name. Good luck to all in your purchase.
Working on a dealer here that has a stripped LTD in the color I want. Asking window sticker $35,603.00. (MSRP)
I told them I take it off thier hands for OTD $36K ($33,900.00 without 6% sales tax) For the $800.00 we're off he is not willing to let the car go! Let it rot!
Which dealership are you dealing with? Have you tried Hartford Toyota? I was able to get over $2K off MSRP on a XLE FWD back in November. My neighbor has also contacted Hartford Toyota last week and is able to get a similar deal as I did (I think you should be able to do even better than I did). The other area dealers (Middletown and Wallingford) were not willing to come off MSRP. Also, have you looked into Auto Fair in NH...their website lists some limiteds at over $3K off MSRP.
Good luck.
I want an XLE FWD, with pkg #2, and mats.
Thanks
It's Middletown that has the one i wouldn't mind buying for 36K OTD (Stripped LTD).
I've not had any sucess with Hartford Toyota either. Did you buy from ones on their lot, or did you have to order it?
Thanks
I am really surprised that they are not discounting this vehicle as it looks like supply is catching up. When when you drive by their lots, they have 8 - 15 of them sitting there collecting dust. I couldn't even get Middletown Toyota to acknowledge my presence when I went to their dealership.
The incentive varies by region (Zip code) and some parts of the country appear to be excluded. Only $70 worth of marketing support in the Sacramento and SF Bay areas, where I live and work, but a $500 manufacturer-to-customer rebate in Tampa/St. Pete.
Alloy Wheels (WB) $699
Running Boards (RB) $599
Rear Spoiler (RF) $485
Hood Protector (HP) $109
Cargo Net (GN) $ 49
Anyone having luck with pricing in this part of the country?
Thanks
Many thanks.
Most of us who have bought the van early, have paid close to MSRP....so YES, any thing below MSRP is a good price for this van ( specially for a AWD model, during winter months) ...
After two weeks I am very happy with our decision. The van is very comfortable, quiet, in general all we hoped for. We also looked at Chrysler, Nissan, Ford, Chevy, Mazda, Kia, and Honda. Toyota stood out from these in cost,(except for Kia), fit & finish, and reputation.
Steve, Host