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As to the Aquatreds Ive only had experience with the older generation while I was in college working at Sears Auto Center. After about 20-30K miles the wet weather performance would deteriorate considerably as that center channel wore down. Still plenty of meat but the wet weather performance was not there.
Happy motoring!!
Kyle
just picked up my lx 5-speed this week. i've owned 2 other civics ('78 and '86) with a corolla in between. so far so good. paid less than tmv, carsdirect, autobytel and one other dealer. only problem were the deep scratches on the rear fender. sales manager fell all over me being apologetic and gave me a bunch of free oil changes (whats with 5w-20? is it commercially available?). took 3 days to repaint, cure and finish. fortunately i cant tell the scratches were even there! very satisfied, but does anyone else notice an annoying little engine whine?
Too often I see oversized tires mounted on Civics to 'fill in' the wheel wells.
CX
One question about the tire upgrade: When you upgraded from 185s to 195s, were you still able to use the stock steel rims, or did you have to buy new ones?
Isellhondas: There is an article in www.autoexpress.co.uk about the Civic coupe(search for the Civic coupe, as opposed to the other Civic models). The car is imported into the UK from Ohio. Even in the UK, they commented about the bouncing rear suspension. So now you have heard this problem from a source other than this message board. Unfortunately, the British review of the Civic coupe was not very kind. Although they gave the hatchback (not the Si) a reasonably good rating.
And...what do the Brits know...? Look at some of the stuff they build!
Lets see now...rear suspension built by Lucas...
Here in USA there is a SUV craze...
V-8 Expedition 4WD,
Curb Weight 5345-lbs. (XLT), 5468-lbs. (Eddie Bauer).
V-10 Excursion 4WD,
Curb Weight 7087-lbs. - 7688-lbs.
5,000 lbs SUV driving at 70 mph, It has a momentum of a 3,500 pound car doing 100mph.
6,000 lbs SUV driving at 70 mph, It has a momentum of a 3,500 pound car doing 120mph.
7,000 lbs SUV driving at 70 mph, It has a momentum of a 3,500 pound car doing 140mph.
can you imagine getting rear ended by one?
I have reservations about buying a small car in the US, even though I prefer them to anything else. In the UK, safety seems to have bypassed the US standard, since almost all cars now sold, come with side air bags and ABS. In the US, Honda only offers ABS on the EX models, while it is standard on ALL their models sold in the UK.
Share with us your impressions of the article and of the redesign and results.
Pat
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http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/roadtest/46005/page005.html
The Editor-in-Chief has written exactly my thoughts on the car. He is obviously more critical of the car's performance than the other Edmunds' writers. If the 2000 Civic finished 8 out of 9 in Edmunds' last comparison test, then judging by this review, it may move up to 7th place.
Never heard of the "troubles" he talks about and that is the truth!
They complained about lack of keyless, which was a Dealer installed, $100 option on the Civic Lx. What would have happened if Civic EX would have been chosen ? With CD/Read disks/ABS/Moonroof, Powerful engine, Slick shifting manual, POwerfull Audio? The 2000 Civic EX would have come atleast with in top 3 & very close to #1. Not bad for a last year design !!
If Edmunds or Honda fans/bashers make too much out of tha test it is just an in-justice towards both the Honda & compact consumers. Despite Edmunds ratings, 328000 Civics were sold in last year !!
I filled up the gas tank on mine yesterday:
332.3 miles / 8.589 gallons = 38.7 MPG!
WTF??? That was 60% highway, 40% city driving.
Maybe the odometer is wrong?
The manual recommended the gas with octane
number no less than 86.
But a friend said that use higher octane gas
can be good for my car, and it is even better
for the engine and can achieve higher MPG.
I doubt about this.
Can you tell me, which gas do you use?
And which gas is better for Honda Civic?
Thanks.
Also, "convenience" gas is fine and is only different from the major brands by slightly different additives. Does the manual say only use Shell or Mobil gas? I don't think so.
Civic Lx is equiped very well(except abs) & has enough pep to carry 4 people in comfort.
That assumes you value a sunroof, ABS, VTEC with extra horsepower, metal moldings and door handles (as opposed to plastic moldings and door handles on LX), CD player in dash, 15 inch wheels... need I say more? This is worth the extra dough.
And it's a better value than Accord if you're into fuel economy and you are not a giant person.
That assumes you value a sunroof, ABS, VTEC with extra horsepower, metal moldings and door handles (as opposed to plastic moldings and door handles on LX), CD player in dash, 15 inch wheels... need I say more? This is worth the extra dough.
And it's a better value than Accord if you're into fuel economy and you are not a giant person.
Civic: better mpg, new redesign at beginning of cycle. Great resale.
Accord: more roomy, better legroom, real center console, a lot more storage bins, and center arm rest. Folding side mirrors. On the other side....new model due in 03. Almost as great resale?
I know the Civic EX has an armrest, but it looks like it is straight from the Hyundai Accent and there is nothing for the passenger. there is also no covered console storage in the LX.
Is real world mpg anywhere near EPA? In other words, I would expect to average around 30 with the Civic stick or auto, and around 24-25 with the Accord auto.
Yes? No?
Thanks.
33.7
34.2
37.3
38.7!
Do I need to take my car to a Honda service shop to have this fixed or should I fix it myself? If I fix this myself what should I use? Thanks for any advice.
This morning, I drove the car over 4 speed bumps. There was not a single person in sight. So I decided not to slow down. I was prepared to be thrown to the sky. But, surprising, the car ran over the bumps smoothly at 45mph. It was so smooth that I could barely feel anything. The last bump was right before a red light and thus I slowed down. The car ran over the last bump at about 25mph and the car did bounce a bit.
These are very smooth bumps and thus I wouldn't recommend other people to run over the normal bumps at that kind of speed. My point is that Civic seems to tune the suspension for high speed performance. It rewards you to drive over bumps at higher speed. Maybe they are selling this car at the wrong side of Atlantic.
Enough with the reserve/fuel light already. If Honda had left off this useless low fuel light (system) and spent the $1.95 on a low washer fluid light, I'd be impressed.