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I changed my gearbox fluid at 37k miles. I think manual recommends to change it at 36k miles.
I tried to find synthetic transmission fluid but none of the local stores had one that matched fluid symbols from honda manual. I ended up buying honda fluid. You will need 2 quarts, total cost about $10.
INKY
How many of you stick with recommendation. This means Prestone regular and all others are out. The Silicate/Phosphate free stuff is the extended life 150,000 mile. Is that what should be used. Any just what is so bad about prestone and the others?
You can bet any non Honda shop uses the regular stuff.
INKY
Catherine Heins is looking for people to interview who have switched from American to Japanese cars in the past few years-- especially folks who wouldn't have given a Toyota or Honda the time of day in the 1970s.
She's a business reporter at the Yomiuri Shimbun, which is the biggest daily paper in Japan with a circulation of 14 million. They are writing a feature story about Japanese automakers' continuing success in expanding production in the U.S. and snatching market share from the Big Three even on their former home turf of light trucks.
If you fit this description and are willing to be interviewed, please call her directly at 212-582-5827 or e-mail her at catheins@yahoo.com. As always, you can contact me at jfallon@edmunds.com if you have any questions.
Thanks,
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Second, I have to agree with the observation that these surveys only seem to come in for heavy criticism when they fail to support our pre-conceived notions. Look, folks, I like Honda products, and am the very happy owner of an '01 Accord, and helped a friend buy a new Civic. But all you have to do is go back to the beginning of this forum to see what's going on: the new Civic had more than its fair share of problems at startup, and that is a fact. Will Honda sort it out? Sure, but that misses the point.
For pictures of the 5 door Civic, see:
http://www.vtec.net/news/items/692.html
or you can also go to the Honda Japan web site.
Other than test driving vehicles, did all negotiating via the internet and phone using: Stoneage.com and local dealer websites to contact dealers.
It was a most pleasurable carbuying experience as not one dealer mentioned MSRP, only how much we were willing to pay over invoice or just making their offer slightly above invoice.
Those not interested didn't bother to contact us and that was fine with us.
The "Finance Manager" even seemed a bit nervous trying to get us to buy the window etching. We also turned down the extended warranty as we drive 35K a year highway. It actually was a good deal with Honda and Chase Manhatten offering a lower APR from what we were able to find bringing the warranty total to about $500.
We still said no as we have owned Subarus, Nissans, Toyotas, and Hondas since 1982 with only normal wear and tear mechanical problems. The offer would have only raised our monthly payment by $12/mo, but we have confidence in these foreign cars. Hope we don't get burned someday.
I am a little nervous about some peoples problems and complaints. We haven't experienced any yet and gas mileage to date is 38 mpg with a 70-30 hwy/city mix.
We are really enjoying this car, sorry to hear of so many other dissatisfied consumers.
1. Should I avoid buying a SILVER Civic? I've been told it fades quickly & peels. Is this true?
2. Can I actually purchase an extended warranty from a non-Honda source & the Honda dealer will honor it?
3. I have several Honda dealers where I live (Charleston, SC If I get a better price at Dealer A, can I actually take it to Dealer B to get problems taken care of?
4. If I buy an extended warranty from Dealer A,
will Dealer B, C, etc. honor it?
Thank you, thank you!!
Personally I agree with mdriver. Extended warranties aren't really worth it. Some people don't feel comfortable without it, if that's you then get it.
An aftermarket warranty should be honored anywhere. What if you bought a car and moved to another state. A dealer in the new location wouldn't honor your warranty? They have to.
If you have a problem with one dealer, take it to another even if it is an inconvenience. It's just like anything else. Go where you get the best service. But buy where you get the best price first.
If I get the best deal and purchase my new EX from Dealer A, will Dealer B (who's closer to home) take care of any problems that arise with my new car even though I didn't buy it from Dealer B? (not unlike TJ Maxx or Macy's -- you can return merchandise to any of their stores)
I have asked friends this question & they tell me that I should have problems (not just maintenance stuff) taken care of by the Dealer I purchased from. This doesn't make sense to me b/c what if I bought a car from a dealership 300 miles away or move out of state - I would take it to a local dealer to handle problems,right?
When I read the posts on this forum about new owners' car problems, I get worried that I'll have to travel to the Dealer where I purchased my car b/c they are "local" (and part of me thinks that if I was Dealer B, I wouldn't want to pay my mechanics to fix a problem with a new car that the customer didn't buy at my dealership).
Ahhhh Yes. I am a woman of many words but I'm anxious to make myself clear. And I appreciate the answers to yesterday's post. (so, SILVER is really, really ok? My friends are giving me ill advice about that color, aren't they?
To 2, a non Honda warranty will be honored at the dealers descretion. Sometimes you will have to pay the bill yourself and mail in a receipt to the warranty company. These warrantys generally have worse coverage than factory warrantys. Like telling you that gaskets are not covered. Not a big worry unless it is a head gasket for $500. I bought the Honda warranty for 7 years 100,0000 miles with 0 deductable, my choice.
To 3, every dealer service department will want to make money on your misfortune.
To 4, same as 3 above. They send the bill to honda.
These things cost a lot to fix and Honda is very proud of there parts. If it breaks you will make out with the Honda warranty if it never breaks all you get is "peace of mind" (you wasted your cash). Look at how busy the service department is the next time you are in a dealership (A or , these are good cars, but they break too.
D
as it was said before an extended warranty is just a piece of mind, but it is also a benefit when you are ready to sell the car (if the warranty still covers it). i looked into the third party warranties and decided to buy it directly from honda, the 7 year/100 000 mile coverage cost me $600 back in december of 1999 (i bought the car in september of 1999) you can buy extended warranty anytime within the original warranty period. honda care comes with free tow to nearest honda delarship, if it is on a day when the dealer is closed, and you are farhter than 100 miles (i think) from home it will cover your hotel stay and 3 meals in 24 hours, plus if the repair requires more than 8 hours you get a free rental. you also get free lock out service and trip routing and unlimited maps from honda. one thing honda care doesn`t cover, like most warranties out there is brakes, clutch, belts and other expandables, but it does cover the shock absorbers. it also covers your freon if honda part caused it to leak out (after the part is reaplaced of course), it covers overheating damage, provided that you can prove that you stopped immideately after the needle went into the red zone. there are many more items in the contract, i just don`t have it infront of me. my warranty came with a $50 deductable though.
good luck
The service department is pretty much seperate from the sales department and they want to make money too. They won't chase you away just because you bought the car elsewhere. How will they know that you didn't buy the car and then move into their area with it?
In a very small number of cases you might get a slight better response from the overall dealership you bought the car from if you run into a unique problem, but all in all they will likely be happy to have your business and want to keep you as a customer no matter where you bought the car.
-Trevor
accord and other models, because of the
possible gas leak. Most of the cars were
produced and sold in Japan, some in US and
other countries.
Anyone heard about that?
TOKYO--Honda Motor Co. is recalling 52,297 Civic compact cars, including more than 8,200 in the United States, produced last year for faulty fuel-pipe tubing.
The Japanese carmaker said Wednesday it is also recalling at least 100,571 additional vehicles sold in Japan for a defect in wheel bolts.
Honda said the metal bands on the Civic fuel-pipe tubes were not tight enough, possibly leading to fuel leaks. The problem was detected during assembly work, and there have been no customer complaints or accidents related to the recall.
Affected are 24,203 Civic cars in Japan, 8,205 in the United States, 4,883 in Great Britain, 2,093 in Australia and 12,913 in other nations.
Also recalled were 100,571 vehicles involving 19 models sold in Japan for weak bolts that were manufactured earlier this year.
Some of the models, including the Civic and Accord compacts, were exported to the United States, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and other nations. But Honda said it has yet to determine which models and how many exported vehicles need to be recalled.
Honda said 37 cases have been reported in Japan of the bolts that could break, possibly causing the wheel to fall off. There have been no accidents related to that recall.
Honda EX Sedan with side airbags: $16897
Sec System (installed): $229
Floormats (installed): $40
Leather Steering Wheel Cover (installed): $103.
Fog Lights (installed): $327
Wood Grain Trim (installed): $137
Wood Grain Console (installed): $115.
Wheel Locks: n/c
TOTAL: $17848
MSRP TOTAL (with options/installation): $19342
It seems like an okay deal to me...but I am nervous about paying too much for the options. Anyone have any feedback??? I plan to close the deal in 24 hours. Please help!
The 2001 Honda Civic EX sedan w/side airbag 5-speed manual TMV is $16,158 including destination charge.
Sec System (installed): $229
Floor mats (installed): $40
Leather Steering Wheel Cover (installed): $103.
Fog Lights (installed): $327
Wood Grain Trim (installed): $137
Wood Grain Console (installed): $115.
Wheel Locks: n/c
Revised TMV Total of $17,109 including options.
By adding all these options, maybe you can further negotiated on the price
Good luck
Thank you!
Although I like the 01 Civic in many ways, after a couple of drives, I removed the Civic from my list. The rear suspension is shockingly bad and the engines seem less responsive and less smooth than they used to be.
Note: we live in Justin, TX, and although its warm now, it will soon be blistering hot.
We found that we liked the handling (in this price range, mind you), thought the seats sat "high" and then there was the A/C.
The first one, we sweated the entire time. I finally got it on the highway so I could see if getting up to speed was good. I noticed an immediate pick-up in the "blowing" that also immediately subsided when I got off the highway. Back to sweating.
The second one was "a bit better" and the third one was much better, but it was late in the evening and not the middle of the day by then.
Any 2001 Civic owners in hot climates have opinions? Wife loves the blue model, and we like the look of it over the Corrola's look (personal taste), especially the interior.
I'm new to the forum, so I'm definitely not trying to start a flame war. All honest opinions appreciated. My wife's best friend has a 2000 Civic LX that when the AC is going you can hang meat in, so its wierd that the 2001's would be less powerful (in terms of air conditioning).
Thanks,
Marcus
A: Civic's sales performance is a little bit behind what we expected. There are a couple of reasons for that. One reason is that we put pretty heavy incentives on the Civic last year. This year, nothing. After we identify some possible countermeasures, we will take action.
http://www.autonews.com/html/main/stories0611/yoshino611.htm
I have read the prior links...am I correct in saying that Honda won't offer rebates on the Civic, that the 2002 models will be nearly identical and identically priced..and that the end of the month should be best? Should I just wait for the 2002 which may address any new model problems...or should I try to work a great deal on a 2001?
Thanks for your help...I can buy as soon as August 1st.
honda never had a rebate, and probably never will, rebates depreciate the car faster. they might have hidden incentives that dealer gets.
Regarding sales of 2001 Civic down compared to 2000.
Civics produced in North America (USA + Canada)
6/10/00: 183,320
6/9/01: 189,422 (+3.3%)
Considering 3.9% 36 months rates offered by Honda on 2000 models it doesn't look all bad. However the new Sentra did much better (+86%).
http://www.autonews.com/html/main/art/prod611.pdf
Clearly, Honda is correctly disappointed with both the sales numbers, general popular reaction, and defect rates with the new Civic. Eventually, I would look for both dealer incentives and subvented financing, though probably not until late July or early August. But don't hold your breath for direct-to-consumer rebates - Honda just doesn't believe in them as a marketing tool. They believe that rebates "devalue the brand" - you can agree or disagree, but that doesn't change it.
Honda did offer factory incentive of lower interest rate for 2000 civics.
If you look at all of his posts, he's pretty negative about 2001 civics.