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  • fredtwdfredtwd Posts: 25
    >my friend also bought a new C320 just last week
    >and has the COMMAND system and the phone etc...
    >and voice control (not sure what its
    >called)..anyway there is a software glitch with
    >a fix in the works. It only works for him
    >50% of the time!

    I'm getting COMMAND, phone and voice... What's
    the "it" that only works 50% of the time? Any
    additional information on the problem and the
    solution would be greatly appreciated (so I can
    test for it when I pick up my C320).


  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >anyway there is a software glitch with a fix in >the works. It only works for him 50% of the >

    As I mentioned a few weeks ago, a friend in Illinois met with the Mercedes rep about his seat memory and remote key unlocking and was told there was a fix in the works. It is to this info I refer when I say I do not know how reliable it is. If you have heard this, too, all the better.

    Re checking out the memory using all three positions, which makes you the most happy -- finding out they do not work, finding out they do work, or not knowing for sure? :) I would not be able to resist!
  • ny74ny74 Posts: 15
    Sshowitt, I have emailed you earlier and just want to check with you that whether you have received my email. If not, I could send you again. Thanks.
  • mga3mga3 Posts: 51
    I live in NYC,(Manhattan) and am driving a leased Black C320. My insurance cost from Geico is $2122.20 for the year. $1061.10 every six months. This incredible rate is due to a few factors as explained to me by Geico:
    1)Believe it or not the auto theft rate has gone down in NYC. Thus, all major insurance carriers have adjusted their rates.

    2)The type of automobile I was covering. The C320 comes with eight airbags,ABS,Anti-theft,Anti-towing alarms,and ofcourse Tele-Aid tracking.

    3)I have a clean driving record.

    With those three factors combined I recieved an incredible rate. It was suggested by Geico that if I take a one day six hour drivers defensive course. I can reduce my premium by another $78.00. Something I am considering.

    So,another reason to love this vehicle.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >driving a leased Black C320. My insurance cost >from Geico is $2122.20 for the year.

    I live in Southern CA, in an area I think has a high rate of insurance. I purchased a Black C320 and my insurance for the year is $1889. I also carry a $188 umbrella policy for which you must take the highest coverages. The combined premium total is $2077. The policy cannot be cancelled and is with The Hartford. I have a perfect driving record; however, in 1999 my car was hit three times within four months and since it was not my fault, my rates did not increase.

  • mb_a_mustmb_a_must Posts: 32
    Nice article of the new c class. Anticipation is killing me ... I feel like that old Heinz 57 Ketchup commercial! Any way ...

    The article says, "I wish the parking brake wasn't foot-operated (four pedals is too much for anyone). I wish that my Classic-trim tester's $37,450 price included things like a CD player and alloy wheels instead of the cheesy plastic wheel covers."

    Plastic wheel covers? I thought they were all alloy rims. Sport package included the 5 spoke while the rest was a 7 spoke. Is this a Canadian thing?

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  • w2p2w2p2 Posts: 63
    When I exit from the freeway down the ramp the volume on the radio lowers. From loud to medium. I thought it might be like on a motorcycle and the volume adjusts to the speed. Does anyone know about this?
    Am I deaf and just don't know it? Is my car acting up? Thanks,
  • zmeenowzmeenow Posts: 341
    i noticed on my base model stereo that the volume seems to be epeed senstitve.. i never saw anything in the manua about it... but several times now... it also caught my attention
    in norther nj... paying $1600 per yr.. car purchased not leased.. i thought nj rates were about the highest in the country... guess not
  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    For once, South Carolina, which is always last on statistics of ANY kind, has an advantage in insurance premiums. A 320 would cost me $1,250 annually. Have you tried State Farms Auto-quoter at

    May be it's worth a try. I compared Geico rates with my current State Farm policies, and Geico would have cost me exactly 15% more! Funny, how persuasive ads can be...


  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    $940 per year, driver's age 41, clean record,
    $500K Liability each accident, $250K Liability each person, $500 Collison deductible, $250 Comprehensive deductible. I was very pleased with how good the rates are on the C Class.
  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    Canadian Models:

    C 240 Classic (Base)

    C 240 Elegance

    C 240 Sport

    C 320

    C 320 Sport

    Miki do you read the TO Star regularly ?

    thanks for the Link !

    "....means the 240 feels much faster, an impression surely abetted by a short-ratio six-speed gearbox. While not up to the slick standard of BMW's best, the action is at least light and easy-to-use and, like the clutch, seems to smooth out the more aggressively you drive..."

    He then states: "Loose shifting six speed" ?

    I find the 6MT very good, a huge improvement over my last 5 speed Outback, then again I have not driven a 6 speed BMW (don't think they have one?) Audi does have a 6 speed.

    Ian in Jersey.

  • diwc240diwc240 Posts: 172
    3. David Coulthard - McLaren Mercedes
    6. Mika Hakkinen - McLaren Mercedes
    Formula One Malaysian Grand Prix results:
    Michael Schumacher of Germany won Sunday's 56-lap Formula One Malaysian Grand Prix at Sepang International Circuit in Kuala Lumpur. The following are the results:

    1. Michael Schumacher (Germany), Ferrari, 1 hr., 47 min., 34.801 sec. (170.613 kph/105.780 mph)
    2. Rubens Barrichello (Brazil), Ferrari, +23.660 seconds
    3. David Coulthard (Scotland), McLaren, +28.55
    4. Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Germany),Jordan,46.543
    5. Ralf Schumacher (Germany), Williams, +48.233
    6. Mika Hakkinen (Finland), McLaren, +48.606
  • mb_a_mustmb_a_must Posts: 32
    Wow ... Never would of thought there would be such a difference in models. I'm wondering what their logic is, being that the US and Canada are such close neighbors. Seems like there are more standard features with a US version.

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  • gb16gb16 Posts: 12
    I just called Geico ot price out the C240 and I got a rate of only 1260 per year. And I had upped the coverage. go figure
  • Can anyone advise me quickly about the above? I have ordered it on my C240 and only have a day or so to change my mind. My dealer doesn't, and hasn't, had one to actually see, and I am concerned about buying something "sight unseen."

    1. In what ways does it visually look different from the passenger seat? Can you tell a difference by just looking at the seats?

    2. Where is the control for the extra features mounted?

    3. Any history of short or long term problems with the extra features? I intend to keep the care a long time.

    Thanks for any help you can provide.
  • pk6pk6 Posts: 26
    The Classic model isn't sold in the US, my guess being they don't want to dilute the MB aura too too much by selling a car there for $25000. But then that doesn't make sense either, can you imagine how many they would sell. Also I'd much rather pick my options a la carte as in Cda than buying them in packages and getting something you don't want in the first place. Lots of people just want the car, with the bare necessitites like power locks, windows, a/c and not much else including leather seats. I prefer cloth seats anyday. Unfortunately neither side of the 49th gets the avant-garde model or the broader selection of engines.
  • I had an opportunity to purchase a C320 four months ago. After an extended test drive I ended up with a sore back due to no lumbar support. I ordered a C320 with multi contour. The car I ordered is in Sacramento as we speak. I took it for a short test drive yesterday (didn't bring it home, we are still working on the numbers). It simply will be impossible NOT to find a perfect position with multi contour. There is a small rectangular box (1" wide x 4" high) positioned on the right side of the seat below the drivers right leg and the center console near the seat belt clasp. There are four small rectangular toggle switches on the top of the box. The toggle switches activate a pump that fills up air bladders for two different lumbar supports, the side bolsters, and the front of the seat. The lumbar is just great! One for the lower back and one for the mid back. I had it dialed in for a perfect position in about one minute. It's the best 460 bucks I have ever spent. Other than the little control box near your right leg you can not tell the difference between the two seats. My only quibble was the little control box is close to the seat belt clasp. I caught myself saying "Man. that's a tight fit, why didn't they put that box someplace else?" Final analysis: Get the multi contour. It is very much worth every penny! Hope this helps.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >Miki do you read the TO Star regularly ?

    No, I do not -- a friend sent me the link. I do bring up the Globe and Mail once in awhile.

    You have good insurance rates. My yearly premium is $1889. My deductibles are lower (collision $200; other than collision $100). California also requires uninsured motorists 250K/500K ($171). Liability is $250K/$500K; property damage each accident $50K; towing insurance $8.00.

    This is the same coverage I have always had. I hope they are OK and I have enough.
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    Maybe someone here has a small (adult) person in their life and can help me.

    I am 5'2", 106 lbs. -- Without a pillow, the visibility of the C320 is perfect and I have no problem reaching the pedals. I do, however, have a problem with the head restraint. Without a pillow, only the top fourth of the back of my head reaches the bottom half of the restraint. With a seat pillow, half of my head reaches the bottom of the restraint.

    1. Am I properly protected with just the top half of my head in the bottom half of the head restraint? Pillow I use is about 2", and I am sitting pretty tall. If I get a higher pillow, then the seat may have to be lowered. If the seat is lowered, the head restraint will be raised more. In my former BMW, the fit was good, and my entire head was protected. I am concerned that the base of the skull needs protection.

    2 What is the proper distance from steering wheel air bag should I be?

    I posted on the petite forum, but I do not think any replies will be forthcoming.

    Thanks everyone.

  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Regarding the head restraint, (looking from the side) the centre of the head restraint should be the same level with the centre of gravity of your head. The best way to determine this is to align the top of the head restraint with the top of your head. You also want the head restraint to be as close to the back of your head as possible (it should be comfortable to you too, of course), so tilt the head restraint to adjust this. You can manually adjust the head restraint using the power seat controls. No need to go with the preset generic settings. I urge everyone to adjust their vehicle's head restraints properly for optimum protection. If you try to do it on a non-MB vehicle, you may find that the head restraints do not go up high enough. This goes to show you how inadequate some of the head restraint designs are.

    As for the airbag, adjust your seat and the steering wheel so that you are at least 12" away from the airbag. Fortunately the C-class (and other late model MB vehicles) has dual stage and dual threshold airbags and hence will deploy only when appropriate, and with the right amount of force.

    35mph flat barrier crash test w/o and with airbags (Mac users, open up the following links in Internet Explorer since they contain AVI format video clips): (Ouch!)

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  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738
    Shouldn't the back of that car *not* push the driver into the steering wheel? :-)
  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    My thanks, Drew, for your response and the links. I do have the head restraint at its lowest using the power seat control on the door, and it is not enough. Also, although the C manual states they tilt, they do not on my C320. I asked at the dealer about their tilting, and they told me they do not. I asked if there was a way to remove the restraint and shorten the metal bars a bit so that they will fit into the seatback lower, but I have not gotten any help. The MB rep thought it humorous that I was asking the question and told me they cannot remodify a car. A thicker pillow? What to do? What to do? :)

    I am O.K. with the distance from the steering wheel, at least.

  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    IIRC, I think they do tilt...sort of. If you grab the head restraint cushion and pull it towards you, it expands.. If the head restraint is at the lowest position already, then it should be okay for you. No need for any modifications and don't worry about it. Really! I wouldn't bother with a pillow either. Notice that Volvo's non-adjustable head restraints go all of the way up, almost to the top of the roof? It's only when the head restraint is too low that it won't be as effective.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    Well, the seats do deform when you smack into something, so it doesn't exactly push the driver into the steering wheel. Rather, it moves along with the driver. The seatbelts also do have some stretch in the webbing, so again, the driver moves forward (this is where seatbelt pretensioners come into play).

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  • michhalamichhala Posts: 375
    >I think they do tilt... sort of. If you grab the >head restraint cushion and pull it towards you, >
    >it expands

    Bless you! Indeed they do tilt! All the dummies are not at the factory doing crash testing! Every now and then to test, I bang my head back and forth on the head restraint :) :) :) and it does hit the restraint every time. (Ever see a blonde test a head restraint at a stop light? That would be me :)

    I appreciate your quick responses, and they have made me more comfortable with the situation. Thank you.

  • sirus32sirus32 Posts: 55
    While surfing Mercedes Worldwide web site...( I found this artical on increased production of the C:

    <<<Rise in Production Expected at DaimlerChrysler Plant in East London
    East London, March 15

    Production of Mercedes-Benz vehicles will be significantly increased at the DaimlerChrysler plant in East London, South Africa, by 2002. The goal is to expand annual production to 62,000 units, with the increase primarily affecting the C-Class, in great demand as an export vehicle. The plant in East London also manufactures vehicles for right-hand-drive markets such as Great Britain and Japan.>>>>>

    I've also read BMW is manufacturing their 3 Series in South Africa. However, it's been said these vehicals are not built with the same quality standards as German manufactured 3s. Instead, the S.A. 3's have been used for Dealer loaners and BMW Executives.
  • livetodrivelivetodrive Posts: 104
    Would anyone like to swap COMAND cd's? I have Region 8: Mid-Atlantic. I am especially interested in Region 7: New England. If you are interested, please e-mail me at [email protected] (I guess I wasn't the first to think of that handle!).
  • kenyeekenyee Posts: 738

    second piece:


    Sorry for the totally broken URL (glue the two pieces together to see it).

    Stupid web crossing software :-P

  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    I have come into a Region 1 (California/Nevada) COMMAND CD (PN Q6460053, version 7/00) that I do not need any more its still in the plastic Wrap.

    Contact me at [email protected]

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