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Drew
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Thanks!
Does it sound human?
The "best" money factor from MBCC in Minnesota is .00400. That's better than any other lease company(GE, Chase...).
In special markets the rate is .003755. This "special rate" is only avialble to MB dealers in highly competitive markets, which ends April 1st.
If you'll be taking delivery soon, I'd suggest signing your lease agreement early. Risdual values will most likely drop April 1st. Take advantage of the low rate and high residual now.
Good luck!
Pocahontas
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If you have a comparable lease originating in March, was yours different?
Unless you guys are able to take deductions you are getting VERY screwed.
At the end of the lease you will have paid $22,140. That's like buying the car with cash, and then selling it in 3 years for $17,860.
Please enlighten me with your justification for this??? Your also under mileage restrictions the whole time. That's a stressful way to live.
If you can't afford to buy the car, then don't get it. Don't live beyond your means. To many people out there should be investing when they are spending. If you just bought a car you could afford and put the rest of your pay check every month into an investment you would be MUCH better of in 5 to 10 years. Then you could actually afford one of these cars.
Don't get me wrong I have had my share of lease disasters in my past. I have just learned and grown up.
I know about 20 people who did just what you said. They had a lot invested in the stock market. Their net worth is now 50% of what it was 2 years ago. They should have bought a few MB S-classes and Porsches. They would be better off now, and also a lot happier.
I DO know.. that the /$$ ive put into this car.. has held its value moreso than if i had put it into the market.. but 3 yrs ago.. i couldnt have said that...
that having been said.. consumer confidence was up in feb... so ..lets spend our way out of this bear market...buy it... lease it... just dont squander it!!
Sales guy said 70% are leases and some of these people have big money. Well, key still works.LOL
Thanks!!!
Drew
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If so,
1). Were you able to negotiate and receive a CD changer (they quoted me $1,100!!) or floor mats?
2). Were you treated nicely or were they snobbish (as if they didn't care if you bought the car or not)
Basically, all you are doing is paying for the depreciation of the car during the length of the lease.
Say you lease the car for 3 years. Say the new car is $40K. Say the car will be worth $25K in 3 years time. All you are doing is paying $15K (plus fees and interest) for the privilege of driving it for 3 years. It would be the same as buying the car at $40K and selling it for $25K after 3 years except that you don't have to deal with the hassle of selling it and paying sales tax for the whole $40K. You only pay sales tax for what you use. In my state you are already saving $2150 in tax. And you can walk away at the end of it, or you can buy it.
But it only works for some people and only if they do their homework. I leased my $40K 99C280 for less than $500/month with 0 down. I got a terrific money factor 2 years ago and a high residual.
But you gotta be careful. I used the Edmund's formula to work out what my lease amount would be so I knew what it was. The filthy crook saleman I first saw quoted me about $650/month. He was just trying to rip me off. When I told him that his figures were wrong, he came back in a few minutes and said he made a mistake and quoted me about $550 instead. I took my business elsewhere and got under $500/month for the same car.
Actually BMW is no different. I just worked out a deal for a BMW 325ci for my sister-in-law. The dealer was more willing to negoite then MB but still very little. I ended up with $1200.00 under MSRP (plus winter floor mats). I was shooting for $1500.00 under. Well we both made out!
But believe me, after comparing the two cars I still think (know) that the MB is worth the extra $$. Feeling is believing.
Good luck on your quest!
greg@thedailydonut.com
C is a hot car, but if your ready to buy right away, don't be afraid to walk, another dealer may give you a better offer. I figure I can lease an Aura RL for the same as a basic 320, but who wants an RL anyway.
Jack
If anyone wants comparisons of the C320 sport to the C43 (except the torque) just ask.
Seriously, those with Key problems - aren't you upset? I tried the 10 times in etc. thing and did not get it to work. Live in NJ and they pump gas - is there anyway to keep the car locked while getting gas - we have some nasty neighborhoods. Thank you for this board - sure wish I had found it earlier - sure I would have saved money but hey look at all I lost today in the market!!!
Didn't get the integrated phone. Dealer said it is a piece of junk and not worth the $2,000. Does anyone know if you can use a Motorola Startac or something else and still use the hands-free function built into the car? I drive 100 miles/day and am on the phone often - hands-free sure would be safer.
Is this head unit the same one in the S and E classes? I would imagine that all their cars will use the same head unit? I wonder if the spec is published, so when enough of these cars get on the road, one of the aftermarket companies could provide their head units.
Drew- when did they add this feature? How exactly does it work? I noticed it had my five most recent posts, then when I posted this one it dropped one and added this one. Is that the limit, the 5 most recent posts?
I've known about this since late December, and the sting had worn off a bit, but now seeing the fine print has brought all the frustation and disappointment back to the surface. It really is a minor issue, I've never locked my keys in any car, but it's something that was advertised and talked up by our dealer. I feel if MB doesn't fix it they ought to gives us free tele-aid renewals as long as we own these cars. That's what I'll be telling MB. Thanks for letting me vent a bit!!! LOL!!
I live on the Westside of LA and would appreciate knowing which dealers negotiate MSRP on the C320. Will they also discount CD Player and/or chrome wheels 50%? The dealers I have worked with keep a very low inventory and are not in the least bit flexible with sticker price.
Miki
If you get the X5, you may also experience your vehicle burning 1 quart of oil every 2500 miles. This is considered normal and within factory tolerances! This doesn't affect only the X5, BTW, other BMW vehicles too. Weird!
I can understand your frustrations about not getting a feature that was supposed to be included and advertised for. I'd keep pestering MBUSA through their 1-800# and see what happens. If you voice your dissatisfaction (especially if you mention something about losing faith in MB and your car), you may get a result. BTW, don't bother with some of the pawns (i.e. marketing people) who answer the 1-800 lines). See if you can get somewhere up the food chain. You may also want to consider writing MBUSA a message via their website. They do respond, though it make take a little while, and if enough of you early build North American C-class owners do, they may let on more info. as to what their plans are WRT a fix.
Drew
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The new C-Class will be crashed by EuroNCAP in June of this year. Mercedes-Benz had better hope that they not only match the Renault's 5 star rating, but also exceed/match its 97% score on the frontal impact and 100% score on the side impact.
Don't you just love competition?
Mike
You might send a Fax to:
Mr. Paul G. Juron, General Manager
Client Assistance Center
Mercedes-Benz USA, LLC
Facsimile (201) 476-6211
Miki
Miki
I just read the "fine" print on the back cover of the new "C" brochure. This may give Mercedes an out for their mistake.....
"All illustrations and specifications contained in this brochure are based on the latest product information available at the time of publication. Mercedes-Benz reserves the right to make changes at any time without notice in colors, materials, equipment, specification and models. Any variations in colors shown are due to reproduction variations of the printing process. Illustrations may include test situation. Some vehicles may be shown with non-U.S. equipment. Some vehicles are shown with optional equipment"
I hope you and others receive some kind of satisfaction from MB.
There will be two Obsidian 320's headed for Southern California in mid-May -- I hope we are both lucky enough to receive them in "perfect" condition.:)
Miki
Miki
There may be disclaimers in the "C" catalogue, but before the product is purchased, the customer should also be advised that certain things in the catalog are not available on the car as represented. If the customer still wants to buy the car, then the manufacturer should have the customer's signature on a form that states the customer has been advised of what is not available. In my case, for example, the dealer was out of catalogs when I purchased the 320 and I received it at a later date and after the purchase.
2002 models will start production as of the 3rd decade of MAY, in other words from about May 20th onwards for cars coming from Germany. This means we shall see the new models here in July.
The 2002 SL's (last year for this body) are already being produced and are available as standard and the special silver arrow package that has been widely publicised. 1400 silver arrow SL 500's will be made only 100 SL 600 silver arrows will be made.
2 color changes to report - as of sept 1st glacier white changes to alabaster white and aspen green changes to everest green. Whether this means there is no glacier white or aspen green form the start of MY 2002 production till sept 1st or there is until sept 1st is not clear as yet.
designo - for MY 2002 slate blue on the CLK is no longer available, at this point it does not say what the replacement will be. Also, Goldenrod and copper packages are scrapped on the SLK, again no replacement news yet.
There are already productions slots showing for 2002 E class 4matics, these are being built as of the 2nd decade of may. They get built earlier as they are shipped to Austria I believe to have the 4 matic installed.
ML 430 is replaced by ML 500, I have the option pricing on the 2002 but not the standard changes as yet. The 2001 MY prodution ends mid June on MLs and the MY 2002 production starts up July 1st.
Dealers will start getting produciton slots on MY 2002 cars as of tomm, thus, full product ordering guides will be coming in any time now. Rick will pass on to me any info he gets and I will post immeadiately.
By the way he has a 2001 silver/charcoal CLK 55 he is selling at MSRP, the car is brand new. It was something to see my 55 next to that one, 2 CLK 55's next to each other, a rare site indeed.
Nabzy